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determinism · Envision the Determined Universe

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Welcome. Worldwide, societies fail to meet the modern demands of their peoples. This phenomenon is rooted in the genetically determined and neurologically mediated illusion of so-called "Free Will"(FW). Despite exponential advances in science and technology, the poor performance of social and political institutions implicates FW as a key, underlying flaw. Yet, ironically, FW is the unquestioned philosophical paradigm implicit in essentially all strategies for dealing with today's complex social problems. Furthermore, since our leaders believe that FW actually exists, they must vainly struggle to find workable solutions. They do not even look for real causes so long as they suspect none beyond people making merely "bad choices". Therefore, the long-standing myth that certain social problems are "unsolvable" exposes FW as inescapably fatalistic. The implications drawn from FW are obsolete and incompatible with a vast, ever-growing and reliably reproduceable body of empirical knowledge about humanity. The evidence shows that we are an intrinsic component of the universe--not apart from it. Thus, to maintain FW as a guiding principle in public policymaking is an increasingly expensive, often cruel, and consistently futile endeavor. But, in this group, we share visions of a better world, one built upon a scientifically based model. We are interested in advancing the concepts of Naturalism and how they may be applied to promote superior social reform, and to reduce suffering. The realization that FW is merely a seductive illusion embraces the genuinely promising reality of our determined universe. When minds begin to open to this we discover that there are indeed more wonderous things on earth, and in the rest of the cosmos, than were dreamt of in the mind of any prophet who has ever lived. Please join us in exploring this enlightened philosophy, with its profound ramifications for our species, and how, together, we can help create a saner, more compassionate world

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HI Richard: You interested me with the word scripts> Would you say more about that. It would appear that you do lots of unnecessary work when you are trying
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In a message dated 11/5/2009 3:52:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, ... working model, demonstration, observation, and production, at least that was the way it
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In a message dated 11/5/2009 3:27:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, throger1016@... writes: > Richard, I'm talking about people who believe they are talking to
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In a message dated 11/5/2009 3:22:42 PM Mountain Standard Time, ... Movies are the worst offenders, more now than in the past, because there's no ... The
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... It matters if you are making claims about the nature of reality. It does if you claim the behavior you observe, is objective evidence. My point was, that
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