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#106 From: "me" <angel89woman@...>
Date: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:08 pm
Subject: Holidays
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I hope everyone has a happy an safe holiday

#105 From: "curezone_com" <yg1@...>
Date: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:49 am
Subject: CureZone Newsletter Issue 174: Fibromyalgia, Panic Attacks, Asthma, CFS, Acid Re
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CureZone Newsletter Issue 174: Fibromyalgia, Panic Attacks, Asthma,
CFS, Acid Re


Almost all the "Fibromyalgia type" symptoms I was suffering from ...
by telman
have reduced significantly and my head is so much clearer now ...
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=31407


Panic Attacks and Liver Flushes by megan
After my first liver flush, I could get into bed again, no panic. I
couldn't believe it. (I used the procedure by Andreas
Moritz...similar to Hulda Clark style, but more preparation with
good diet beforehand).
Now, it didn't get rid of all my general anxiety, I still had to
work on that, but the night thing was gone.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=323&i=1753


Where did my Asthma go? CFS is gone!!! Acid reflux can kiss my azz
by woojungcorporation
After my second flush I lost most of my symptoms
NO more asthma!!!!
No more acid reflux!
No more CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome)
No more bloating!
No more burping or farting LOL!
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=31027


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Root Canal "Re-Fill" by lgrasso_hawaii
Don't rework your already failed root canals. I had 4 root canalled
teeth worked on again and again and again. 4 years later I finally
had the last of the 4 extracted. Guess what these million dollar
teeth were filled with.... Tons and tons of infection...  In the
roots and the surrounding bone. I became systemically ill with
debilitating fatigue,
pain and weakness from all of these rotten teeth sitting in my mouth
for all these years.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=45&i=1082


Urine Therapy Testimonial: After a year and a half of therapy by
desjar
I decided to tell about our experience to encourage people to start
the therapy. I found out about the therapy after my husband got
desperate with a situation doctors could not do anything about. It
started with simple jock itch which came back as a severe case of
Candida after being administered strong antibiotics. He was swollen
and red up to his knees, he had red itchy patches on his right foot,
belly, between his fingers etc.. Needless to say he was suffering.
His doctor refused to give him anymore antibiotics and he was left
to himself. He lost 27 pounds in 2 months. After trying all sorts of
natural solutions with no results, he wanted to buy antibiotics from
the Internet. I succeeded in stopping him and promised to search for
a solution. I told him: "Hang on,...
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Re: Gratitude and Appreciation by Lorelei
Jasmine, yes, it means I never had my gallbladder removed. I was
encouraged by my medical doctor to have it removed. Then my
chiropractor encouraged me to try flushing before I had the surgery.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73&i=1155


Flu Shot Video (must see)
Health Canada says the best way to avoid the flu is vaccination,
which in many provinces is free. Well let's see if these recent flu
shot recipients can help reveal the mystery of why Cheetos and Pop
Tarts list their ingredients while vaccines do their best not to.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=3593


More Good News From The Fish Wars
"From all the reports we had seen about mercury and its impact on
development," said Rochester's Dr. Philip Davidson, "we thought we
would be able to show how bad it was for children. But we didn't
find it at all."
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=3594


Re: Does Candida clear up on raw-food diet? by bambam945
Changing your diet to raw is one of the best things you can do. Raw
food brings life and balanced nutrition to the body, and if you can
afford organic, even better.
I also have Candida and I've brought mine well under control
following the above. I'm confident that as I continue to cleanse and
eat raw I'll be completely healed.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=460&i=22956


My acne is almost a thing of the past by hokouri
The root for me was a clogged gallbladder, 18 flushes later my acne
is almost a thing of the past, I still get a few pimples now and
then but my skin looks so nice and healthy now and I know that
eventually I'll have my gallbladder totally clean I will be 100
percent clear.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=333&i=4384


Autism Declines As Vaccines Remove Mercury
A new study shows that autism may be linked after all to the use of
mercury in childhood vaccines, despite government's previous claims
to the contrary.
An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal of American
Physicians and Surgeons (JPandS.org) shows that since mercury was
removed from childhood vaccines, the alarming increase in reported
rates of autism and other neurological disorders (NDs) in children
not only stopped, but actually dropped sharply ­ by as much as 35
percent.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=3596


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Porn Addiction Video
There is a DELL commercial before the video. Video is after the
commercial.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=318&i=5933


Dehydration is a MAJOR Cause of Back & Joint Pain in America. by Owen
About 60 million Americans suffer from some form of arthritis. 40
million suffer from low back pain. One-half of all Americans endure
at least one day of back pain each year,  which interferes with
their daily routine.  It's quite likely that you know at least a
half-dozen people who suffer from back or joint pain, every hour of
the day or night.
If so, I hope some of what I'm about to say will resonate with you;
and through you, with them.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=362&i=12140


Children at Risk
In a report by the Environmental Working Group, the American Red
Cross took umbilical-cord blood samples of 10 newborn babies and
tested them for contaminants. The results were devastating. The
tests showed that the babies' blood contained an average of 287
contaminants, including methylmercury, DDT and chlordane. Of the
chemicals, 180 of them are carcinogenic in humans, 217 are toxic to
the brain and nervous system, and 208 are known to cause birth
defects.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=3590


Benzene In Pop
Traces of a carcinogenic chemical have been found in soft drinks at
eight times the level permitted in drinking water, it was revealed
last night.
Tests conducted on 230 drinks on sale in Britain and France have
identified high levels of benzene, a compound known to cause cancer,
according to the Food Standards Agency. There is a legal limit of
one part per billion of benzene in British drinking water. The
latest tests revealed levels of up to eight parts per billion in
some soft drinks.
Benzene has been linked to Leukemia and other cancers of the blood.
Traces found in Perrier water 15 years ago led to the withdrawal of
more than 160 million bottles worldwide. The disclosure has prompted
food safety campaigners to demand that the Government reveal which
products contain benzene. At present, the drinks' identities have
not been revealed.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=3591


Whirlpool baths: enter at your own risk by Ana
A new study shows that whirlpool bathtubs can be a breeding ground
for a host of disease-causing bacteria.
Dr. Rita B. Moyes a microbiologist at Texas A & M University tested
43 water samples from both private and public whirlpool
bathtubs. "Every tub tested had some kind of microbial growth," she
told Reuters Health.
"And I was just getting the few organisms I was testing for, so it
is probably just the tip of the iceberg as far as what is really
present. Also, I did no viral testing," Moyes emphasized.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=3589


Yoga Eye Exercises by Healer George
When doing the eye exercises keep your eyes open and your head
still. Sitting, open your eyes, then check that your posture is
comfortable.
Raise your eyes and find a small point that you can see clearly
without straining. While doing this exercise look at this point each
time you raise your eyes.
Next, lower your eyes to find a small point on the floor, which you
can see clearly when glancing down. Look at it each time you lower
your eyes. Breathing should be normal. ...
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=637&i=168


Teflon byproduct polluting the Mississippi River
A government scientist has been forced to resign, after discovering
dangerous levels of a toxic chemical in the Mississippi River. The
toxins, specifically known as perfluoronated chemicals (PFCs), are a
byproduct of the manufacture of a number of products including
Teflon and Scotchgard. In late 2005, Dr. Oliaei Fardin found
dangerous levels of PFC's in the Mississippi River downstream from a
3M Corporation's dumping site in Minnesota. 3M had been dumping
50,000 pounds of the toxic chemical in the river every year, in a
heavily populated metropolitan area, where the river serves as the
main drinking water source for Minneapolis and St. Paul. PFCs have
caused birth defects and deaths in animal studies and are considered
a likely human carcinogen.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=3578

#104 From: "jdyoungberg" <Uprite03cont@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: Im new
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Hi.  I can suggest two books which seem to have an answer--
Depression Free for life, by Dr . Gabriel Cousens
and  Depression free Naturally, by Joan Mathews Larson

they both approach it from a nutritional and lifestyle approach which
I would start with if I was starting over.  When I went on
antidepressants I didn't know about any alternatives, and now I am
addicted.  I have a feeling it is twice as hard to get off
antidepressants as it is to find natural therapies that work before
you go to antidepressants.  Try to find a doctor in your area who is
open to diet and natural thereapies.  It is possible you can heal
nutritional imbalances and not need medication.  Good luck.  Jennifer-

-- In depression-testimonials@yahoogroups.com, "Lindsay"
<rikimuk@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have just joined today.
>
> I think Im depressed. My Grandad died in January and I thought I
was
> doing OK but for the last few months I feel constantly tired and
> have no energy for anything. Im also hungry all the time and have
> put on almost two stones in weight. I dont know what the hell to
> do??? I went to the doctor yesterday and he wasnt really any help
Im
> having blood tests next week to see if he can see anything but he
> just went on about my weight so I feel even worse now. I am weepy
> all the time and I just feel like I cant function properly any more.
> All help or advice appriciated.
>
> Lindsay
>

#103 From: "jdyoungberg" <Uprite03cont@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Effexor Withdrawl Symptoms
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Hi.  When I was on effexor I had to be really careful that I took the
meds on time.  If i forgot and went away and then couldnt'take it for
several hours I started having really weird symptoms.  Yes, I can see
it would be hard to get off of.  You have to be really careful and do
it slowly.   I got off when I got pregnant, and pregnancy was good
for my mood, so I didn't need it and didn't have withdrawal.  Jennifer

-

-- In depression-
testimonials@yahoogroups.com, "microlighthangar_co_uk"
<microlighthangar_co_uk@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> For those of you that read the message i am replying to and other
> messages like it - do not take the advice of someone not qualified
> to do so.
>
> Effexor does have withdrawl symptoms if you havent followed a
simple
> withdrawal plan - and its different for every individual. Do ask
> your GP either - they wont really know - best speak to your
> psychiarist.
>
> This contributor has stated one to not take effexor. Do not listen
> to this person as this is their own view and my guess is that they
> havent planned their withdrawal.
>
> Taking a tablet in the morning or whenever is certainly more
> favourable than suffering the depression!
>
> Be careful what you read on the internet especially when it comes
to
> depression - because people who are suffer with depression will
have
> more negative things to say than positive, so my advice is be very
> careful what you read and don't spend most of your time looking up
> the internet for answers.
>
> Negativity breeds negativity and many discussion boards like this
> can actually do you more damage than good!
>
>
>
> --- In depression-testimonials@yahoogroups.com, "fairymammat"
> <fairymammat@y...> wrote:
> > Hi everyone, I am new to this and just was wondering if there was
> > anyone out there who has suffered withdrawls trying to get off of
> > their anti-depressants?  I have been on Effexor for two years now
> and
> > I decided that my life had taken a turn for the better and I
> didn't
> > need to be on them anymore.  I have been suffering the worst side
> > effects from this and found out that I am NOT on my own, there
are
> > several of us out here feeling way worse and more depressed
trying
> to
> > get off of these drugs.  My Doctor seems to think it is all in my
> > head but I know for a fact it is not! I found a web-site called
> > effexor petition that justified everything I was feeling!  Take
> the
> > time to read some of the things this drug can do to you and
> whatever
> > you do if you are looking for relief from depression DO NOT take
> this
> > drug.  The withdrawl sysmptoms far out weigh any good this drug
> could
> > ever do!  Let me know what ya think and Please visit and Sign the
> > Petition to get the FDA to take another look at this drug!
> > Fairymamma
>

#102 From: "pjb12345uk" <pho@...>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:37 am
Subject: reiki, spiritual healing -a truly beautiful energy
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Spiritual Healing /Reiki healing

Spiritual healing/ reiki to many people conjures up so many images
and meanings, for those who do not know what it is all about, all
that I would ask is that you approach the subject with an open
unprejudiced mind and with a wish to explore and evaluate the
evidence carefully and properly. It is hoped with such an attitude
truth will prevail and misconceptions from misguided people will be
put in their rightful place.

From the outset it must be clearly understood that we live on a
planet of causes and effects, every thing seen on this planet has a
cause and an effect. We live in and are surrounded by all sorts of
effects like wind blowing from the north or a light shining from a
star or a leaf growing on a tree or wealth,
health,suffering,Happiness,Love,Sound,lightning,Music in fact
everything we see, feel, touch, smell, all have causes. Magic is the
name simply applied to happenings where no obvious cause can be
seen, at least to some of those witnessing it.As you can easily
appreciate no effect is without a cause.


We are know witnessing one of the great turnings in our century
where old healing practises are re-emerging such as Reiki healing,
Colour healing, Seichim, Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and
many others. Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual
healing/reiki  is one of those. It is exactly the same kind of
energy used by Jesus in so many of his healings.


Put simply Spiritual Healing/Reiki is the transference of certain
energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or
even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well
outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people
can feel this energy .

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful
which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit
or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a
steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its
limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy
reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act
as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of
which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit
more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the
reader can soon appreciate that going to one spiritual healer ,
Reiki healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is
with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or
what have you.

Spiritual Healing, Reiki is natural healing energy, which is present
in this universe. Spiritual healers and Reiki work in many different
ways to some it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal,
to others it can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in
the presence of some healers can have a profound and beneficial
effect on people and one wishes that there were more people giving
off just as beautiful vibrations as these people were this world
would truly transform it.


Everyone needs healing, because there is not a single person which
on some part of their being does not require healing. I will clarify
that point further because some people are so physically orientated
they perceive people and their suffering on a basis of you look OK
you must be OK.

  This perception can be likened to looking at a puddle of water and
because it looks all right and then assuming that because the rest
of the ocean is made of the same kind of stuff it must be the same,
being absolutely oblivious to the rest of the entire ocean.

  We are a very complicated beings comprising of many different parts
some of which are the mental self, the subconscious, the Physical
self and the spiritual self. I will leave it up to the reader to
discover the parts of themselves and their true importance to their
well beings.
During the healing process as a general rule people should simply
relax, all sorts of sensations may be felt typically heat, cold,
energy, sometimes even noises from your body.

Who is suitable for healing? All people at all stages of their life
especially the terminally ill;Animals even plants seem to respond.
Will one session be enough? Sometimes but probably a series may be
the answer.
Will healing cure me? All healing from all sources be it Doctor,
drugs, etc comes under the law of Karma.

There are no guarantees that healing from any source may give the
effect which the Desiree wishes.

  However it has been my experience that even if you do not get the
effect you desire, on some part of your being you most very probably
will receive some healing, even it is just upliftment. Which can be
extremely valuable


Harry Edwards was one such channel who was told to concentrate on
the next person he hears about who is sick. A case arrived one who
had TB who was dying .He concentrated on that person with his mind
and within 24 hrs the bleeding had stopped the pain had stopped and
the temperature had come down to almost normal. The Doctors
attending were amazed, the man returned to work in a short time.
More cases followed, people came with Cancer, Consumption and other
blights. Of notable healing was a boy with Spinal Meningitis and who
was dying. Harry sought healing for the boy and within a short
period of time the boy's parents were astonished to find their boy
sitting up in bed, the doctors looking on in amazement. A growing
queue was starting to form at his house and mail started to arrive.
But what truly amazed harry was the use of Absent healing where the
healing was sent by thought, the patient was not even present but it
seemed even more effective.

  To cope with the growing demands of his work he set up a healing
sanctuary at Burrows lea in surrey and his secretaries started
answering the hundreds of letters which came each day. He was in
constant demand to give talks all over England. Then on one day he
had the great urge to demonstrate what he could do before an
audience ``is there anyone suffering from Arthritis''? he asked.
Hands shot up from all over the auditorium, which started off the
public healing. The demonstrations grew, a thousand people attended
a demonstration at Croydon and typically Harry would treat
Arthritis, Spinal curvature, Deafness and poor sight. One lady who
had not been able to walk for three years was given healing, after a
few minutes of healing she walked down the aisle much to the
audience's delight. A child of six had her spinal curvature
straightened much to people's amazement.

Gradually over the years of healing he drew together the letters and
testimonials and presented them in an incredible book called The
evidence for Spiritual Healing which contained ten thousand cures,
yes that's right ten thousand .

Newspapers captured the signs with headlines like `'Sight restored
after seventeen years'' `'the Deaf hear'' `'After healing the
cripple danced'' `'Paralysed children walk off the stage
unaided''and so on.

  He would make the point quite clear that Spiritual Healing was not
faith healing and if it were so young babies and mental cases with
no comprehension about faith would not even respond.

  On another occasion Harry was called before a panel of Doctors who
presented him with their very own patients. The first patient had
Disseminated Sclerosis and came in with two helpers. On the first
treatment mobility was restored to the spastic spine then co-
ordination of the leg movements followed, she responded well and
started to walk, the session ended with the Doctors asking for
healing for their own personal troubles. Then royalty sought him out
Princess Marie Louise granddaughter of Queen Victoria sought healing
for Arthritis and she was instrumental in the royals attending the
sanctuary.

In less than five years Harry had received no less than one million
letters and in less than seven years over forty thousand people
attended the sanctuary.

In the thirty years from the time he moved to Burrows lea up to his
passing in 1976 he received an average of 9000 letters a week .In
over thirty years he received over 14 million letters from patients.

Harry passed to the other side of life in 1976 but not before
teaching Ray and Joan branch how to continue with the good work at
Burrows lea where they still are today.

Happily now Spiritual healers are used quite extensively in the
N.H.S, in fact they are in over 1500 hospitals and at long last a
lot of churches have finally complied with what the master told them
to do two thousand years ago and that is to go forth and heal the
sick. In the year 2000 even our prince Charles published a report
stating that spiritual healers should be extensively available
throughout the entire NHS. Over 7000 healers are now registered to
treat patients in the health system. I know of no cases where
spiritual healing when given by a trained healer has been
detrimental in any way, I know of no side effects except better
health.


Just a few reports –"When I had finished treating him, it was a real
delight to see how wonderfully glad he was to be able to use his
legs, feet, arms and hands again... and then he told me: "When I
came here, I was convinced no one could help me, and I came only to
please my Aunt, who brought me."

You worked a miracle with his father when he was very ill 1983-84
when I wrote to you, but you will be pleased to know he is now
working for the Council and lives a fairly normal life.
"You and the late Harry Edwards helped me so often and indeed I am
still pressing on 18 years after I was expected to die from my last
bout of cancer."

"On behalf of my mother, daughter and myself may I thank you for the
lovely day at your Sanctuary last Tuesday. My mother is so much
better it is truly amazing. She can stretch out her arms and even
raise them to her head and her walking is much stronger. My daughter
was very impressed, too."
My condition improved in as much as I now have much more self-
confidence and ability to deal with my everyday life.

Reiki,
Millions of people are aware of this fantastic healing energy and
there are literally thousands of healers [channels for this energy].

The word Reiki is made of two Japanese words - Rei which
means "God's Wisdom or the Higher Power" and Ki which is "life force
energy". So Reiki is actually "spiritually guided life force
energy."

A treatment feels like a wonderful glowing radiance that flows
through and around you. Reiki treats the person including body,
emotions, mind and spirit and creates many beneficial effects
including relaxation and feelings of peace, security and well being.
Many have reported miraculous results.

Reiki is a simple, natural and safe method of spiritual healing and
self-improvement that a lot of people can use. It has been effective
in helping virtually every known illness and malady and can create a
very beneficial effect. It also works in conjunction with all other
medical or therapeutic techniques sometimes to relieve side effects
and promote recovery.

An amazingly simple technique to learn, the ability to use Reiki is
not taught in the usual sense, but is transferred to the student
during a Reiki class. This ability is passed on during
an "attunement" given by a Reiki master and allows the student to
tap into an unlimited supply of "life force energy" to improve one's
health and enhance the quality of life.

It has been successfully taught to thousands of people of all ages
and backgrounds.
The Reiki system of healing is a technique for transmitting this
subtle energy to yourself and others. Reiki can restore energy
balance and vitality by relieving the physical and emotional effects
of unreleased stress. It can gently and effectively open blocked
meridians, nadas and chakras, and clears the energy bodies, leaving
one feeling relaxed and at peace.

Reiki can accelerate healing. Assist the body in cleansing toxins.
Balance the flow of subtle energy by releasing blockages. Help the
client contact the 'healer within.'
A treatment feels like warm, gentle sunshine, which flows through
you, surrounds you and comforts you. Reiki treats the person's body,
emotions, mind and spirit as a whole. Reiki is a simple, natural and
safe method of spiritual healing and self-improvement that most
people can use. Reiki is powerful, yet wonderfully gentle and
nurturing.

  During a treatment, the clients usually remain fully clothed. Reiki
is an effective alternative, or complement to massage therapy. Reiki
can support any medical or supplemental healing methods a client may
be using and is of growing interest to chiropractors, medical
doctors, physiotherapists, psychotherapists, psychologists and
hypnotherapists. In fact it is in use by quite a few doctors.


A Brief History of Reiki.
The history of Reiki, like all other histories, is tainted with
different views of the one event.
Reiki is seemingly an ancient form of healing that was lost and then
rediscovered, during a mystical experience, by Dr. Mikao Usui who
was a Japanese psychic. In 1922 Dr. Usui started a healing society
in Japan. He created three degrees (or levels) for Reiki healing and
initiated a small number of followers. One of his followers, Dr.
Hayashi, a retired naval officer, was charged with preserving Reiki.
He did this and further developed the Usui system.

  He gave the knowledge to his wife and to Mrs. Hawayo Takata. Mrs.
Takata practiced Reiki healing and initiated twenty-two people into
Reiki mastership Today, Reiki is known and practiced in many parts
of the world and is increasing in popularity and acceptance.

  One problem a student might have in learning Reiki is the existence
of different Reiki schools, giving different attitudes and different
symbols by different teachers.
  All that is required is a genuine desire for spiritual growth and
an open mind.


Reiki Research
There are now quite a few experiments that validate the usefulness
of Reiki and other vibrational healing techniques. The following are
few of the more interesting experiments.
A registered nurse describes a Reiki experiment she conducted in her
paper, "Reiki Healing: A Physiologic Perspective." In her study,
forty-eight people made up the experimental group while 10 made up a
control group. Both groups had blood samples taken at the beginning
and at the end of the experiment. The experimental group received
First Degree Reiki training. The control group was not involved in
the Reiki training.


The blood samples were measured for hemoglobin and hematocrit
values. Hemoglobin is the part of red blood cells that carry oxygen.
Hematocrit is the ratio of red blood cells to total blood volume.
The people in the experimental group who received Reiki training
experienced a significant change in these values with 28 percent
experiencing an increase and the remainder experiencing a decrease.
The people in the control group who did not receive Reiki training
experienced no significant change.

  It is thought that changes, whether an increase or decrease are
consistent with the purpose of Reiki which is to bring balance on an
individual basis.
One individual experienced a 20% increase in these values. She
continued to treat herself with Reiki daily and after three months,
her increase had been maintained and in fact had continued to
improve. This improvement was appropriate for her as she had been
experiencing iron deficiency anemia.

Another experiment using a Reiki like technique has also
demonstrated its ability to increase hemoglobin values. A medical
doctor conducted an experiment with a group of 79 sick patients.
Together the patients had a wide range of diagnosed illnesses
including pancreatitis, brain tumor, emphysema, multiple endocrine
disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, and congestive heart failure.
Laying-on hands treatments were given to 46 patients with 33 as
controls. The treated patients showed significant increases in
hemoglobin values.

  The effect was so pronounced that even cancer patients who were
being treated with bone marrow-suppressive agents which predictably
induce decreases in hemoglobin values showed an increase. The
majority of patients also reported improvement or complete
disappearance of symptoms. Both this experiment and the one above,
demonstrate that healers are able to induce actual biological
improvements in the patients they treat rather than simply create a
feeling of well being.

Laying-on hands healing has been validated by experiments carried
out at St. Vincent's medical Center in New York. The experiment was
carried out by Janet Quinn, assistant director of nursing at the
University of South Carolina. The design of this experiment tends to
rule out the placebo effect. Thirty heart patients were given a 20
question psychological test to determine their level of anxiety.
Then they were treated by a group trained in laying-on hands
healing. A control group of patients were also treated by sham
healers who imitated the same positions as those who had training.
Anxiety levels dropped 17 percent after only five minutes treatment
by trained practitioners, but those who were only imitating a
treatment created no effect.

Daniel Wirth of Healing Sciences International in Orinda, California
conducted a tightly controlled experiment involving a Reiki-like
healing technique.

Forty-four male college students received identical minor wounds
deliberately inflicted by a doctor in the right or left shoulder.
Twenty-three then received a Reiki like healing and the other twenty-
one did not. The treatments were given in such a way that the
possibility of a placebo effect was ruled out. All forty-four
students extend their arms though a hole in the wall. In the other
room, a trained healer was present for those who received healing
and administered healing from a distance without touching.

For those who did not receive healing, no one was present in the
room. Both the students and the doctor who administered the wounds
and later also evaluated their healing rate had been told that the
experiment was about the electrical conductivity of the body.
Neither knew that the experiment was about healing. Eight and
sixteen day follow-up measurements of the rate of wound healing were
done.

After eight days, the treated groups wounds had shrunk 93.5 percent
compared with 67.3 percent for those not treated. After sixteen
days, the figures were 99.3 and 90.9. After debriefing, the students
stated they did not know the true nature of the experiment and had
felt no contact with the healer. The possibility that expectations
of the students caused the healing was ruled out.
Dr. John Zimmerman of the University of Colorado using a SQUID
(Superconducting Quantum Interference Device) has discovered that
magnetic fields several hundred times stronger than background noise
are created around the hands of trained healers when doing healing
work on patients.

No such fields are created by sham' healers making the same
movements indicating something special is happening with the trained
healers. The frequencies of the magnetic fields surrounding the
hands of the trained healers were of the alpha and theta wave range
similar to those seen in the brain of meditators.


Dr. Barnard Grad of McGill University in Montreal, used barley seeds
to test the effect of psychic healing energies on plants. The seeds
were planted in pots and watered with a saline solution, which is
known to retard their sprouting and growth. With elaborate double-
blind conditions set-up, one group of seeds were watered with saline
solution that had been treated by a psychic healer.




Dr. Grad carried out similar experiments involving tap water and
plants. Sealed containers of water were given to a psychic healer to
hold and others were given to a severely depressed patient to hold.
The plants watered with the healer-held water had an increased
growth rate and those watered with the water held by the severely
depressed patient had a decrease in growth rate compared to
controls.
These experiments involving plants, in addition to confirming the
non-placebo nature of psychic healing, scientifically confirm the
ancient metaphysical understanding that healing energies can be
stored in water for future use.


In another experiment involving psychic healer Olga Worrall, Dr.
Robert Miller used an electromechanical transducer to measure the
microscopic growth rate of rye grass. The device used has an
accuracy of one thousandth of an inch per hour. Dr. Miller set-up
the experiment in his laboratory and then left, locking the door
behind him to eliminate any unnecessary disturbance. Olga, located
over 600 miles away was asked to pray for the test plant at exactly
9 PM that evening.

When Dr. Miller returned to the laboratory the next day, the test
equipment had recorded normal continuous growth of 6.25 thousandths
of an inch per hour up to 9 PM. At that time, the record began to
deviate upward and had risen to 52.5 thousands of an inch per hour
which was an increase of 840 percent! This increased growth rate
remained till morning when it decreased but never to its original
level.

The Spindrift group has done extensive research involving prayer and
plants. Their results indicate that prayed for plants always grow
faster and are healthier than non-prayed for plants even though the
conditions are equal for both groups of plants and those doing the
praying are miles away. These results were consistent regardless of
the distance involved and occurred over and over. They are described
by Robert Owen in his book, "Qualitative Research: The early years":

One of the interesting results of their research work is that they
were best when the prayer was non-directional, that is when the
prayer was simply for the plants general well-being, rather than for
a specific result, such as a certain growth rate or overall height.
More experiments are being done and scientific theories are being
developed to describe Reiki and Reiki like healing techniques. As we
continue into the millennium, increasing interest along with more
sensitive equipment will allow science to more completely
understand, validate, and accept the reality of Reiki. As this
happens, we will see increasing use of Reiki and other laying-on
hands healing coming into common use by individuals for themselves
and family along with its use in hospitals and doctors offices.

The deeper understanding about the nature of health and the unity of
all life this re-discovered age old wisdom will provide will reduce
suffering and make earth a more worthwhile place to live. With this
in mind, let us be encouraged to continue in the spirit of Reiki to
help others and to heal the planet.

Practitioners have some real interesting stories. Reiki can also
enhances natural abilities. If you are an artist, it can help
develop your artistic expression. If you have an intuitive sense,
Reiki can heighten that. If you have a business head, Reiki can
enhance that as well. In the practice of Reiki, working with energy
helps you to connect with your path, your skills, and develop your
senses. But it takes practice and trusting what you feel.

Reiki is also present in some hospitals.
Reiki has been applied to these conditions and more with very
beneficial results. There are a lot more applications of Reiki – see
there web site for more information.
http://www.reikimedresearch.com/

ADDICTIONS (drugs and alcohol)
Addictions and suicidal behavior
Appendicitis
Arthritis (osteo-, rheumatoid)
Add/adhd
Aids /HIV
Burns
Cancer all types
Cervical dysphasia
Childbirth
Chronic fatigue syndrome & fibromyalgia
Coma –phenomenal result
Croons
Depression
Diabetes
Dyslexia
Eye sight
Endometriosis
Heart conditions -saved surgery
Hypothyroidism
Insomnia –results good
Leukemia -recovered
Lupus-improvements
Mole – fell off
Migraine- pain free
Multiple sclerosis – beneficial results
Neuropathy
Pagets - beneficial results
Pain relief – very beneficial
Paralysis- beneficial results recovered
Polyps –surgery cancelled
Prenatal condition- child born healthy
Psoriasis 70% cleared
Seizure beneficial
Shingles- patient in remission


Karuna Reiki
Laura gifford gives some interesting differences between reiki and
Karuna Reiki and says that Reiki increases the awareness of the way
God works in life. Usui Reiki, is the connection to the highest and
most holy spiritual energies. Usui Reiki is unconditional Love. Usui
Reiki is gentle and peaceful, but very powerful. Usui Reiki is a
conduit for Karuna Reiki® to flow through.
When receiving Karuna:

Karuna Reiki® is very serious, let's get down to business energy.
Karuna Reiki® energy goes very deep, gently, but quickly. She
describes vibrating at a rapidly increasing rate, feeling like more
light than I am flesh. The first few times she received a Karuna
treatment she describes rising out of her body, and was taken into
the symbols used. One repeated occurrence has been that she has seen
flashes of traumatic experiences in this life, and from other times.
They appeared as if I am looking through a picture window.

The image briefly comes into focus so she was clear on what she was
seeing, and then a beam of white and gold light pierces the images
and shatters them into zillions of pieces, which immediately become
pure light. When she had these experiences she also felt and at
times saw physical releases within my body. She experienced deep
physical and emotional healing.

She describes Karuna being profoundly transformational for her as
Usui Reiki and she felt that it had come into her life to assist her
in her growth. She says how multi-dimensional Karuna feels to her.
She felt it working simultaneously on the emotional, mental and
physical bodies, and it has her me layers in her energy field and
within her consciousness that go beyond anything she can
intellectually comprehend. Karuna Reiki® takes her to that space
beyond form, color, time and sound that just cannot be described
within the constraints of words except perhaps, the purest sense of
peace, and total love she have ever felt.

Those words don't even do it justice.
She also had sensations of Karuna Reiki® reaching into other times,
connecting with karmic issues, and flashing through incarnations
linking them and bringing the related lessons to her conscious
awareness, and offering her the opportunity to transmute it in the
moment. So in this sense, she felt it very gracefully transcends
time and space on many levels simultaneously. She also used Karuna
Reiki® to do spirit release work with others.

phil

#101 From: "microlighthangar_co_uk" <microlighthangar_co_uk@...>
Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Effexor Withdrawl Symptoms
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For those of you that read the message i am replying to and other
messages like it - do not take the advice of someone not qualified
to do so.

Effexor does have withdrawl symptoms if you havent followed a simple
withdrawal plan - and its different for every individual. Do ask
your GP either - they wont really know - best speak to your
psychiarist.

This contributor has stated one to not take effexor. Do not listen
to this person as this is their own view and my guess is that they
havent planned their withdrawal.

Taking a tablet in the morning or whenever is certainly more
favourable than suffering the depression!

Be careful what you read on the internet especially when it comes to
depression - because people who are suffer with depression will have
more negative things to say than positive, so my advice is be very
careful what you read and don't spend most of your time looking up
the internet for answers.

Negativity breeds negativity and many discussion boards like this
can actually do you more damage than good!



--- In depression-testimonials@yahoogroups.com, "fairymammat"
<fairymammat@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone, I am new to this and just was wondering if there was
> anyone out there who has suffered withdrawls trying to get off of
> their anti-depressants?  I have been on Effexor for two years now
and
> I decided that my life had taken a turn for the better and I
didn't
> need to be on them anymore.  I have been suffering the worst side
> effects from this and found out that I am NOT on my own, there are
> several of us out here feeling way worse and more depressed trying
to
> get off of these drugs.  My Doctor seems to think it is all in my
> head but I know for a fact it is not! I found a web-site called
> effexor petition that justified everything I was feeling!  Take
the
> time to read some of the things this drug can do to you and
whatever
> you do if you are looking for relief from depression DO NOT take
this
> drug.  The withdrawl sysmptoms far out weigh any good this drug
could
> ever do!  Let me know what ya think and Please visit and Sign the
> Petition to get the FDA to take another look at this drug!
> Fairymamma

#100 From: "nmdreamer1" <nmdreamer1@...>
Date: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:04 pm
Subject: Enneagram
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Hi there,

I'm new to the group and searching for people who have used the
Enneagram work to alleviate their depression.  I have just started
practicing the principles in The Wisdom of the Enneagram and am
seeing results.  Looking for others who have tried the same kind of
work.

Denise

#99 From: "pjb12345uk" <pho@...>
Date: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:17 pm
Subject: deppression protocol 17 things you can do
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Depression
This is an article on depression, touching upon some of the most
powerful healing principles we know about .I do quite a bit of
research into various different ailments and practice spiritual
healing .As well as that we have our own web site where it is
possible to research quite a few healing principles and therapies.
The therapies and principles have been in use for thousands of
years; a lot emerged from ancient Egypt. We have many testimonies
and some research papers and can also point you to links to other
research studies indicating some remark able results.
My web site http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/seventhmoon/orion/
  It is called the Orion project. We make the point quite clear that
we sell nothing health related or make any charge for the healing,
which comes through. We actively share information, much of which
has been suppressed or not actively promoted.
  There are quite a few points to consider one of which is why if
this is so good as you say why are we not being told about it. Why
indeed?
Well I am going to tell you about something that maybe less than 1%
of the population even understand.

The answer –vested interest and quite a bit of apathy and scientific
arrogance.

There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on
the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the
system in England is this, all treatment recommended by the NHS
should be tested and approved and quite rightly so. Obviously it
costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of
the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing
millions of pounds. The point is this Where does this money come
from to test and approve treatments?

By far the biggest source is the drug companies. So take for example
a researcher might go along to his local drug company and tell them
his findings about this treatment he has been working on which is of
outstanding value but needs testing further or approving, you might
think they would be falling over themselves to know more –right, you
could not be more wrong.

By and large only treatments, which show the promise of good deal of
a profit, will even get examined. Because they are in business to
make a profit, not for serving the people. So many of the thousands
of therapies which they see as having no profit potential do not get
approved and thus by and large do not get recommended by your local
doctor or hospital despite. The fact that some of them do have
overwhelming benefits some, which have saved needless operations,
needless amputations, needless pain and trauma, needless kidney
failures and much loss of life.

Your local G.P is not a researcher, in the main he is told what to
prescribe he does not even have the time often to look at research.
In fact some G.P .s have had action taken against them for
prescribing supplements.  At this minute 2004 approx 5000 Beds are
being taken up by people in the UK who have had adverse reactions to
drugs. Some will die others will be maimed .A serious amount of
suffering is taking place on a scale that makes some wars look like
a minor infringement. That is a fact
So Mr/Mrs patient in 99% of the time because of this system you will
probably only get recommended drugs. Primarily because of deliberate
government policy not to fund research into other therapies.
Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual
healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy,
Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices,
Electrical Frequency devices. Has he ever mentioned nutrition what
you eat how much protein, carbo, vitamins, water you take in
etc. .All of these have shown their inherent worth with thousands if
not millions of testimonials.

As you can see this system in its present state is inherently
flawed, that is
  until the day comes when most of the research and testing is done
by an agency with no vested interests attached and a very clear
agenda of being objective. Acting for the people. There is also
clear evidence that some of these drug companies will even go much
further than just dismiss this proposed treatment especially if it
is going to affect their profits.

Ever heard of a brilliant doctor with the name of Raymond rife the
gifted scientist and winner of 14 government awards including
scientist of the year award twice.
Rife discovered that some major diseases could be eliminated with
frequencies based on that diseases individual electromagnetic
signature. He uses the same effect, which causes a glass to shatter
by the use of some peoples voices. What also clouds the issue
further is the fact that some of these drugs work well but that is
not to say that there isn't something more natural better.
The apathy and scientific arrogance we will leave to another time.
Moving on to a more positive note .One of the biggest problems we
see when giving this material is that a lot of people do not have
good evaluation skills. They rely on a white coat, a hospital
building, the sound of a persons voice to sway their thinking into
accepting treatments when they are ill. Like lambs they are taken
down paths some of which will lead them into untold suffering .Of
course this is what some of these drug companies rely on the vast
sums of money which can be generated are enormous.
So as the wise among you will see a little investment in time over
your health could be a very wise move indeed. Well we move now along
to our little protocol the principles of which will apply to many
other health problems as well.

As an overview of this topic it would seem that depression in a lot
of cases stems from a lack of certain energies which we need. It
could be love, a loving partner, or a whole host of negative
energies from out side of ourselves. Or a combination of them. There
are many things which play on us these are called influences,
depression can teach you by making you more aware of your innate
nature. This spiritual nature of ourselves is often buried deep or
at a more subconscious level, I believe that depression can make you
more conscious of other parts of your being. Your may find your
behaviour may alter to incorporate much more of the energies you
need. Of course we have been shown that the first cause of all
illness it seems is your own sin, which we have committed, coming
back to us. What do you think these statements mean taken out of the
bible?
John5:5-14 when Jesus discovered a man who had been ill for thirty-
eight years.
On curing him Jesus said to the man.'Behold you have become well; do
not sin anymore so that nothing worse may befall you'
This clearly indicates that by implication of his statement that
this mans troubles were caused by breaking the law of karma. In
other words his sinful action which he had committed earlier had
caused him to become ill for over 38years!!!!!! –kind of makes you
think before you do or say things to people doesn't it.

Matthew 9;2 And behold they were bringing to him a paralytic, lying
on a bed and Jesus seeing their faith said to the paralytic "Take
courage, my son your sins are forgiven"
Of course this is not a popular view but that does not make it
incorrect and we have seen and have proven that putting in voluntary
work in some way has speeded up healing processes. In fact we have
written a book on this very topic, as it seems that everything we
say or do has real implications to our selves.




Depression protocol

We have personnel experience of the effectiveness of them and they
do work. Every one of them can have a major influence on you. It is
hard to pull out which are the most important
Probably tackling karma and doing voluntary work is the most
important, however it depends on how you feel and there will be many
people where work may not be possible on a daily basis.

1. Firstly find someone to massage your back and legs at least 3
times a week
Use peanut oil or a mix of 50-50 olive and peanut oil. Paying
particular attention to the spine and choose someone who is sympathy
with your condition. It is by no mere chance that massage has been
around for thousands of years .It is effective speeds up the toxic
removal process, enables blood to flow to many more capillaries and
can be a major factor in your well being. We advocate massage on a
weekly basis as a normal healthy practice.

Here are some reported benefits of massage:
Research in massage therapy has been ongoing for more than 120
years.
Here are some reported benefits of massage:

Preliminary results suggested cancer patients had less pain and
anxiety after receiving therapeutic massage at the James Cancer
Hospital and Research Institute in Columbus, Ohio.

Women who had experienced the recent death of a child were less
depressed after receiving therapeutic massage, according to
preliminary results of a study at the University of South Carolina
Medical school students at the University of Medicine and Dentistry
of New Jersey-New Jersey Medical School who were massaged before an
exam showed a significant decrease in anxiety and respiratory rates.
as well as a significant increase in white blood cells and natural
killer cell activity, suggesting a benefit to the immune system


Studies funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have found
massage beneficial in improving weight gain in HIV-exposed infants
and facilitating recovery in patients who underwent abdominal
surgery. At the University of Miami School of Medicine's Touch
Research Institute, researchers have found that massage is helpful
in decreasing blood pressure in people with hypertension,
alleviating pain in migraine sufferers and improving alertness and
performance in office workers.
An increasing number of research studies show massage reduces heart
rate, lowers blood pressure, increases blood circulation and lymph
flow, relaxes muscles, improves range of motion, and increases
endorphins (enhancing medical treatment). Although therapeutic
massage does not increase muscle strength, it can stimulate weak,
inactive muscles and, thus, partially compensate for the lack of
exercise and inactivity resulting from illness or injury. It also
can hasten and lead to a more complete recovery from exercise or
injury.

Research has verified that:
Office workers massaged regularly were more alert, performed better
and were less stressed than those who weren't massaged.
Massage therapy decreased the effects of anxiety, tension,
depression, pain, and itching in burn patients.
Abdominal surgery patients recovered more quickly after massage.
Premature infants who were massaged gained more weight and fared
better than those who weren't.
Autistic children showed less erratic behavior after massage therapy.

According AMTA, massage helps both physically and mentally.

"Often times people are stressed in our culture. Stress-related
disorders make up between 80-and-90 percent of the ailments that
bring people to family practice physicians. What they require is
someone to listen, someone to touch them, someone to care. That does
not exist in modern medicine.
One of the complaints heard frequently is that physicians don't
touch their patients any more. Touch just isn't there. Years ago
massage was a big part of nursing. There was so much care, so much
touch, so much goodness conveyed through massage. Now nurses for the
most part are as busy as physicians. They're writing charts, dealing
with insurance notes, they're doing procedures and often there is no
room for massage any more.
I believe massage therapy is absolutely key in the healing process
not only in the hospital environment but because it relieves stress,
it is obviously at the foundation in the healing process any time
and anywhere."

Joan Borysenko - Massage Journal Interview, Fall 1999
Physical Benefits of Therapeutic Massage
Massage also provides another therapeutic component largely absent
in today's world: tactile stimulation, or, more simply, touch. In
1986, the Touch Research Institute at the University of Miami
published groundbreaking research on the effects of massage on
premature babies. The preterm babies who received massage therapy
showed 47% greater weight gain and six-day shorter hospital stays
than the infants who were not receiving massage. But is this study
evidence of what loving touch can do spiritually, or rather what
massage can do on a physiological level? Regardless, babies are not
the only benefactors

  Helps relieve stress and aids relaxation

Helps relieve muscle tension and stiffness. Alleviates discomfort
during pregnancy

Fosters faster healing of strained muscles and sprained ligaments;
reduces pain and swelling; reduces formation of excessive scar
tissue.

Reduces muscle spasms. Provides greater joint flexibility and range
of motion.

Enhances athletic performance; Treats injuries caused during sport
or work.

Promotes deeper and easier breathing Improves circulation of blood
and movement of lymph fluids.

Reduces blood pressure. Helps relieve tension-related headaches and
effects of eye-strain.

Enhances the health and nourishment of skin Improves posture.

Strengthens the immune system. Treats musculoskeletal problems.

Rehabilitation post operative Rehabilitation after injury.
(Source: AMTA

Mental Benefits of Massage Therapy

Fosters peace of mind Promotes a relaxed state of mental alertness.

Helps relieve mental stress Improves ability to monitor stress
signals and respond appropriately.

Enhances capacity for calm thinking and creativity Emotional
Benefits.

Satisfies needs for caring nurturing touch Fosters a feeling of well
being.

Reduces levels of anxiety Creates body awareness Increases awareness
of mind-body connection.

Emotional Level benefits
Feeling of well-being
Reduced levels of anxiety
Increased awareness of mind-body connection
Enhanced self image
A sense of being unified and in harmony


2.The violet ray is also a wondrous electrical device. Basically a
high frequency electrical device very popular in the 1900s it
produces static like electricity and the end of a glass wand which
turns purple .Use this 3 times a week on the other days of massage,
especially on the spine. This device can be used for many other
problems as well; many people who have problems with the spine pain
have got relief. I have noticed immediate relief and a feeling of
betterment very quickly. Some therapists will have these but I
recommend owning one yourself as they can be bought quite cheaply.
There is even a yahoo group on these but make no mistake these
devices do have an influence on us.
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/violetray/?yguid=56281623
Even the great Edgar Cayce recommended this device in hundreds of
readings for all manor of complaints.
Some Edgar Cayce quotes
Cayce said the spine is one of the holders of the physical karma in
all of us.
According to Allan Wilkinson who uses his violet ray extensively.
This is all about getting our thinking right and it would seem to be
that the right thinking has many advantages over many other
therapies. I've changed the shape of my own spine by getting my
thinking right. This point helps one to understand why Edgar didn't
always suggest a mechanical adjustment. Right thinking was easier on
the body and gave better long-term results. Jesus came into the
world to teach us how to think constructively. "Let this mind be in
you which was also in Christ Jesus, who thought it not robbery to be
equal with God. SFG Book 2. P 52. John 14.6: "I am the way, the
truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me. I
am the way."
Get physical relaxation and stimulation through the use of massage
or the Violet Ray and you will find a cure.
Cayce said that the Violet Ray stimulates the sympathetic and
cerebro-spinal nervous system and it creates a balance. However, he
warns about using it as a crutch for your cure. But if you use it
while working on your thinking it becomes an invaluable tool for
helping the body. From the time it's turned on it transfers your
energies from one area to others that need them more. I have seen
the above points many times, coming together to get many cures, so
they are worth thinking about.
In one reading, on possession, Cayce said that it will drive out
negative earth bound entities. These are entities that try to stop
you changing the way you think. I did two of these treatments and
they were both a success. I gave them the Violet Ray up and down
both sides of the spine, three times at a slow to moderate pace.
Both had very unhappy childhood's. Their behavior improved from then
on and they appear to be still stable. Each needed two treatments
only. I believe it would help children with behavioral problems.


3.Connect with mother earth, get a tent sleep out side 3 times a
week utilising earth energy. Connect with this planets lovely
vibration, to some of you this may seem silly.
  Without doubt this energy is one of the most profound and
beneficial. Generally we are surrounded by whole structures of
inanimate matter, matter which is lifeless .A few examples would be
concrete brick, dead wood, plaster, carpets, metal radiators and
that is just the average living room. When we work or are surrounded
with living things such as gardens, nice scenery, mountains, rivers
lakes, we generally gain something from these things.
This is why so many people retreat to the mountains, lakes, and
seaside to gain sustenance from just being there. Each area has its
own innate energy and you will have noticed some people attracted
with real desire to live near the sea, or the south, north or other
areas. Nearly everyone wishes to have a Mediterranean climate with
loads more sunshine and thousands migrate there each winter.

The earth is a living breathing being of immense power and is quite
literally alive and very conscious, many people are engaged in
keeping her in a better state of balance and repairing her of which
in general we know little about. Just think for a moment of the vast
number of plants, trees, etc. that spring out from the planet.
Literally billions of different life forms each possessing life
force

Being close to earth can be very interesting and by close what I
mean here is having your back against her and feeling the energy of
the earth from the closeness. Don't feel that the energy is going to
hit you hard, it is far subtler than that. As an experiment try
laying on the floor of your average house and then comparing the
feeling you get from laying on the earth on your average lawn. There
is a vast difference. Throughout the many trials and tribulations of
life this energy has been one of the keystones which has helped many
people .It provides a lovely sustenance which helps us keep in
balance. I cannot think of any medical problem where this would not
help and would and recommend that everyone try it.
Those with M.E. or any energy problem in particular would be well
advised to try this. Obviously only give yourself just enough, if
you feel you are slightly irritated after a while I would say this
could be your limit at that time. Like any energy it has to be
treated with respect. This is very much filling our more spiritual
natures and I would love to see more research done with this energy
on the many complaints, which we have to deal with.

Very often when camping out much better sleep and a greater sense of
refreshment is experienced even when sleeping on air beds as we are
much closer to the earth .If one was psychic one could possibly see
this energy which would be an entirely new field to explore. Many
people will have hugged trees or will have sat with their backs to
trees to experience a different kind of energy.

4. Ensure your diet is good raw salad once a day ideal or 5 portions
vegetables or fruit daily ensure adequate protein women 60 grams day
men around 70grams.  Ensure you get adequate minerals all of them
particularly calcium and magnesium, iron in the right proportions
and combinations. See Adele Davis book lets eat right to keep fit
ISBN 0046410171. Ensure adequate water intake of the order 1-2
litres per day that's right water. Blood sugar make sure you are not
suffering low blood sugar as this can very quickly affect your mood

5.Ensure your thyroid is working well – producing the correct amount
of thyroxin not to much or too little. This can be an important
factor we have seen underactive thyroid almost putting people in a
state of comatose with brain functioning at a minimal level.

6.Ensure you do at least I hr per day some kind of voluntary work
when you are able. Now this touches on a concept where by
contributing something to other peoples welfare it is hoped that the
universe will respond by offsetting some of the not so good things
we have done. I have a whole paper devoted to this subject called
karma. I will send a copy of this to you – just e-mail me.

7.Be amongst people who are giving, friendly who have time for you
who love you.
What a lovely statement this is but as you become more aware of
people and their energies it is very important to choose who to be
with for any length of time. Choose people who are good company,
people you like to be with.

8.Be or get to a place which personally love or like-very important
this, you derive sustenance from the place you are in or the area.
Why do you think people travel so far getting to places they like
such as the sea, or amongst the mountains. They derive something
from being there. Some areas can be very depressing and can be the
cause of your depression.

9.Get and do some work which you like or love, no matter if its
voluntary, work can be very therapeutic. Hopefully you enjoy it; in
fact you could do a little self-analysis here to discover throughout
your life which areas of work you enjoyed the most. While you are
there you can discover the ones you least liked but don't dwell on
them too much. What we want there with this therapy is a real
positive experience you may look forward to on a daily basis if
possible. Of course do work when you are able.

10.Ensure you do no acts be really mindful of your words which hurt
or inflict on anyone –don't want to add to your karma do we!

11.Get an radial appliance and use it. This machine was used on the
ninth dorsal with gold chloride with 3 cases with very favourable
results.

Radial appliance
This machine is basically a box with two wires coming out of it, the
wires are connected within the box to two pieces of carbon steel
which are insulated from each other. The steel is surrounded by
blocks of carbon and further surrounded by granulated carbon. The
two wires have German silver disks on them which are then connected
to the body at special places depending on the treatment being
effected. When in use the box is placed in to ice to cool it and
then applied to the body.
Some of the Edgar cayce research on this device
Cayce said this appliance emanates No dangerous rays.
Cayce also warned them never to work on the construction of an
appliance when emotionally upset.
When activated in ice and water, it does radiate a force, which can
be detected by sensitive people.

Cayce said the electronic forces being produced by the action of
certain grades of steel or iron, and their combination with ice,
see? This appliance was prescribed by the readings for at least one
hundred and fifteen different ailments. (Its use, without solution
jar, would benefit everyone.) It was mentioned in 1027 different
readings. An aid to meditation - unite the body, mind and soul (The
appliance was activated after 15 minutes in the ice and water.) the
psychic described a very strong force field emanating from the
terminals on top of the appliance. - rising up to and apparently
passing through the ceiling - The readings referred to the energy
emanated by the appliances as "Etheronic Energy".

Cayce said Use for thirty minutes circulating the attachments about
the body (making a different attachment each time the appliance is
used.) The first attachment becomes the positive, the last
attachment the negative. (Best to always attach the red wire first,
as red is usually associated with positive.)
(With the gold solution, the negative or black lead is placed 2
fingers to the right of and 3 fingers above the navel.)


Cayce said each person should have their own appliance. Be sure no
other body uses the Appliance. It was thought that these machines
take on some of the vibrations of the user and indeed there was a
case where a person constructing a device had inadvertently been
angry at something or another. When the device did not work properly
cayce identified this as being the cause of the problem.
Keeps the body balanced 5158-1 For this builds to vibrations. The
appliance takes on the vibrations of the user. 1179-3 The Appliance
works as a generative magnet - that in each connection with the body
the short-circuiting is to be the flow of the body fluid in the
vibration of the pulsation of the body itself.
1179-3 the magnet that builds up - So the discharge then (that
builded up) is constantly to the opposite extremity to which the
Appliance is first attached.
444-2 the lowest form of electrical vibration is the basis of life
(the first cause, the Word) 681-2 The Appliance's vibrations are the
lowest form of electrical forces that move as energies from the
etheronic forces - or of the lowest form of static, or the
electrical Creative Forces.

957-3 their constructive forces are in an orderly manner. This
enables the quieting, then, from within, and allows the forces to
become predominant that are constructive to vitality in system.
this takes energies in portions of the body, builds up and
discharges body electrical energies that revivify portions of the
body where there is a lack of energies stored.
3119-1 as to build up in one extremity and discharge in the other.
The system would be improved in every condition that relates to the
body being kept in attunement.
  (The appliance is for) bringing rest to the weary - those who have
been under great periods of stress and strain. To those who seek to
find an equalizing influence that will assist them in producing a
coordination in their physical and mental beings with the spiritual
affluence and effect of activity of spirituality upon the body -
physical. The appliance will put the body to sleep - irritation will
disappear.
  (The hearing was improved by olive oil rubs.) There would be a
great improvement for the eyes, for the hearing, for the throat
condition that appears at times through cold and congestion, by the
use of the Radio-Active Appliance.
Will aid in relieving nervousness
Will make for the abilities for the body to quiet self throughout.
Make for an easier circulation, more uniform heating forces - as it
were - in the system.
  (Brings about) the purification of the blood itself - a better
coordination in the cerebrospinal and sympathetic system. - Rids
cold feet the active battery, when kept clean and tight, will last
the life of use of the person, there's no ending.
There would not be felt any vibration from the Appliance
- Until the latter portion of the treatment, for it will gradually
change the vibrations of the body.
  (The R-A Appliance is good for those) that need an equalizing of
the circulation; which is necessary for anyone that uses the brain a
great deal - or that is inactive. Will aid the body in every
direction.
With the use of gold chloride with the Appliance, the whole body
will be improved.
With the Appliance and with the meditative forces that make for
concentration, the body will be enabled to fit itself physically and
mentally to be of a greater service, to find more and greater
opportunities for the expression of that gained.
The days when the Appliance is used would be found to be, if it may
be so termed, the lucky days, or the periods when there is a closer
association with Creative Forces.  A good aid when meditation is
desirable  If they are as one - body, mind, soul - as the effective
activity of a low current of electrical reaction or radiation is
created in the active forces of the Radio-Active Appliance - it
brings to the system just those influences; the tendency to make the
body-physical, the body-mental and the mental-spiritual forces more
and more in accord by a unison This used whenever the body feels
tired. At least 3 to 4 times a week for an hour, at the period or
about the time the body is ready for retirement. - Preferably as the
body rests lying prone.

Put it on when you go to bed. When you wake up take it off.  (The R-
A is for over-tiredness, over-anxiety, pain, or distress.)  As much
a preventative as a cure. Thus we find that the body does not become
dependent upon other things outside, other than that ye seek in thy
meditations.
  In the equalization, the circulation becomes the most involved.
(For prenatal conditions, the anodes) are attached to the umbilicus,
and are the negative attachments for same, - but when it is for the
sensory system, these then are attached to other portions of the
system, dependent upon the characterization.
When using the gold, first begin by applying the positive to the
wrist. - The next time, the gold is applied to the ankle; continue
to reverse these in each application.
as is seen in the embryo - all vibrations enters from the central
portion of the body. - Just above and to the left of umbilicus place
the larger nickel disc - the negative pole (Cayce seems to say which
ever side of the umbilicus that needs cure
Do not use the appliance the same day you are taking sedatives or
any kind of alcoholic beverages.
it may take several uses before you begin to see results, although
many do notice an immediate in their dreams.
Use of the appliance, the readings promise, will bring new self-
awareness and greater understanding.
there will be periods of exciting experience in the spiritual and
the mental self.
Pay attention to the unfoldment of the real subconscious self in
dreams, which occur during the period of the appliance applications.
Body builds up charge in appliance and redirects charge back to
body.
And if other Cayce recommended appliances are being used, such as
the wet cell or violet ray, they should be used out of phase with
each other, we would not use the appliance during the strong use of
the other influences. Nor should there be a great deal of mental
activity. Use this time to analyse ourselves and our relationship to
God, to examine purposes and ideals, study Scripture, and read the
Bible - Genesis 1:1-6, Exodus 19:5, Deuteronomy 30, John 14 - 17,
Psalms 1, 23, 24, and 91.
you can't use the radio-active appliance and be a good cusser or
swearer - neither can you use it and be a good hater - the nervous
system will boomerang.
The RA is good for stress management also good as a preventative and
as a curative .It can be also be used with a solution jar utilising
different types of solution such as gold, iodine, camphor, iron,
silver,sttrychine-hydrastis, potash and also used for severe nerve
and or circulatory imbalances. The ra was also used extensively in
treating Alzheimer's and dementia see Alzheimer's disease and the
dementia's (mcmillin 1994)
Also stated the gold and silver given properly can extend life in
this one reading.120-5.In another case the RA was used as an aid to
memory due to circulation problems. Also used in treating obesity,
elephantitis, Tb, many areas where poor circulation was noted, do
not use the Ra when you are toxic for this will distribute the
problems,
For those who are able to build small items like this I would
recommend the book the radial appliance and the wet cell battery by
David Macmillin and Doug Richard's obtainable from the Cayce center
in Durham England or the ARE in Virginia beach USA.Or you can buy
the item from these sources.


Radial appliance feedback
Psychiatrists have used these and indeed one had built 22 of them
and were well satisfied with them. They have put them in their
freezers for about 15 or 20 min. before using and the energy
generated is terrific.

Better sleep has been reported and waking feeling totally rested.
Energy levels have also improved. Better sense of well being has
also been experienced. Meditations are much better!

One person reported a change from the shaky feelings he was having.
Sleep was also deep and refreshing which was a great change from
previous years The (Edgar Cayce) readings say this heightens all the
senses, including memory. Specifically, sight, hearing, and taste
are improved.

One person noted improved sleep with less sleep required, when using
the RA.
Improved mental activity with better comprehension.

A better sense of well being sense of well being, with a more
happier disposition.
A dramatic decrease in negative thoughts and an increase in energy
disposition was also noted

More energy and constipation of long standing is much improved...

A claim that alcoholism had been helped using the RA (Gold Chloride
and Silver Nitrate, alternated in solution jar). The person involved
became a quiet person.

12 Spiritual healing, find a good healer - but someone you feel an
attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have negative
results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing one of
the great turnings in our century where old healing practices are re-
emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim, Spiritual
healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others. Some of these are
thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one of those. It is
exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so many of his
healings.
Put simply Spiritual Healing is the transference of certain energies
through a channel which could be a person or an animal or even the
planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well outside the
limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people can feel
this energy .The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and
beautiful which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as
the spirit or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It
can bring a steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to
none .Its limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy
reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act
as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of
which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit
more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the
reader can soon appreciate that going to one spiritual healer can be
vastly different than going to another as it is with so many things
whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what have you.

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in
this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some
it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it
can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence
of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people
and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as
beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly
transform it.


13 Think good positive thoughts, thoughts are real and have real
influence they can make you or break you. Right now we are building
you, so encouraging thoughts to your self and others are the order
of the day.  Laughter, comedy, music, -pick your favourite films
your favourite songs your best comedy clips .If it helps make a list
of them we are surrounded by so much dross and duty it is all to
easy to forget what makes us laugh, us smile, us enjoy .If it helps
find in your life some of the good times when things were a whole
lot better. Write them down and dwell there, you will find that
sometimes just remembering the good times helps uplift.


14 Now here is an influence that needs controlling -avoid at all
costs exposure to violence, murders, suffering, death, tragedies,
this is what is pumped at us and they call it the news. Beware of
films, which have this too. You had better understand this, what you
witness can have an effect on you this includes the TV and real life.
There is so much of this lower muck around it is hard to avoid, feed
upon good things, uplifting things, things that feel like a breath
of fresh air. More- steer conversation's to dwell on these things
rather than flow with someone else's dwelling on the muck. Very
subtle this but you will find there are a lot of negative people out
there – all dying to let you feel like them. Be careful who you
with.

15 Positive affirmation- that's right programme your self in the
mirror, thoughts are things words are things actions are things, all
have influence, few people realise these things can have an effect
on themselves using these things.

16 sunshine particularly at this time of year Seasonal affected
disorder is real
We need light and many people are affected in winter by the very
short days and lack of sunshine.Light is extremely important for the
needs of man. Edgar Cayce recommended 2 hrs a day but not at the
height of the day. Sunlight metabolizes vitamin D which is needed
for the absorption of Calcium, with osteoporosis now affecting one
in three women over 50 and one in twelve men, anything we can do to
absorb calcium must be looked at. According to one reputable light
therapist who listed ten main benefits from sunlight which include.

1 Production of vitamin D,
2.Lowers blood pressure.
3.Increases heart pumping efficiency.
4.Improves ECG readings.
5.Reduces Cholesterol and hypertension
6.Assists weight loss.
7.Effective with Psoriasis.
8.Increases the level of sex hormones.
9.Helps alleviate Asthma and other lung disorders.
10.Helps improve mood.
As with most things one can have too much .Too much sunlight will
age the skin and give an increased risk of skin cancer, which is
frequently caused by too much UV radiation. An interesting point
with sunlight is the fact that you can get burnt through cloud cover
or in shallow water. Never expose babies to direct sun between 11am-
2pm in summer. As a precaution if any mole changes colour, shape,
size or becomes itchy, or bleeds seek medical advice straight the
way, melanoma if caught early is well treatable, caught late it can
be much more problematic. Alternatively to sunlight one can use a
light box but this will have to be the right kind of light and the
right intensity and with this one can then expose oneself or others
to the right duration of time.
  With the now recognised problem of season affected disorder -the
cayce statement is well justified. Insufficient light will cause all
manor of problems things like depression, Fatigue and drowsiness
will be more seen in winter as the dark days come. Apparently a
thirty-minute exposure to sunlight will produce enough vitamin D for
the entire day. People in winter are now using light boxes, which
should be of at least 10,000-lux full spectrum type lights and
flicker free. Also used is UV light and both of these types of light
are to be used in the early morning to keep us in balance. Treatment
with these methods has been effective in about 85% of cases. Our
pineal gland responds to sunlight and a sunny day produces about
100,000 lux, the pineal gland produces melatonin, which lowers heart
rate and prepares the body for sleep. However you have to get
sufficient daylight to produce Melatonin.PMS has now been linked to
low melatonin .In fact one has to apparently protect our melatonin
as things like Glutamate (often used in food additives) caffeine,
alcohol, tobacco, chocolate, non steroid anti inflammatory, beta
blockers, prozac, and valium deplete it.
Melatonin is a very important chemical and acts as an anti oxidant
and free radical scavenger and these things are linked to aging.
Curiously St. johns wort used for depression is a Melatonin
stimulator.
Tests have also been done with florescent lighting at a school in
Florida; the tests clearly showed evidence for increased
Hyperactivity, Irritability, Depression and Fatigue.Surprisingly the
lighting also affected blind people as well. The clear alternative
for florescent lights are the full spectrum type lights where they
very nearly replicate sunlight, again tests have shown improved
Health and performance, a decrease in headaches, Depression and
fatigue.
The nice thing about light therapy is that the side effects are
experienced by only a small percentage of people, and typically are
temporary. They can include a jittery feeling, excitability, mild
nausea, and mild burning of the eyes. These typically are go after a
few days and/or by temporarily adjusting the distance one sits from
their light.
An interesting measurement was taken of the amount of lux which was
present in an typical office with florescent lighting – the meter
used read about 170 lux, which is highly problematic when an average
sunny day is between 5000 –10000 lux but can be up to 100000lux.
Some people ask can just replacing my ordinary bulbs with full
spectrum ones cure me.
Interestingly for the majority of people afflicted with seasonal
affective disorder Medical research indicates the therapeutic effect
comes from the high intensity of light. This high intensity,
generally ten to twenty times brighter than regular room light,
stimulates the brain to produce the chemical changes responsible for
the antidepressant effect. Also, most incandescents are bright
enough to be harmful.
See the research here with all sorts of people
http://www.phothera.com/ptref.html where they are
Treating people with light therapy on people who have alcohol
problems, Eating disorders, winter depression, sleep disorders,
obesity, Bulimia, anorexic nervosa, general food intake and sad,
Alzheimer's, Behavioral problems with elderly people, Suicidal
tendencies are also explored and make interesting reading.

The symptoms of SAD usually recur regularly each winter, starting
between September and November and continuing until March or April.

Sleeping problems - Usually desire to oversleep and difficulty
staying awake but, in some cases, disturbed sleep and early morning
wakening

Lethargy- Feelings of fatigue and inability to carry out normal
routine

Overeating – A real craving for carbohydrates and sweet foods,
usually resulting in weight gain

Depression- Feelings of misery, guilt and loss of self-esteem,
sometimes hopelessness and despair, sometimes apathy and loss of
feelings

Anxiety Tension and inability to tolerate stress

Mood changes - In some sufferers, extremes of mood and short periods
of hypomania (overactivity) in spring and autumn.
Treatment
Some light boxes emit higher intensity of light, up to 10,000 lux,
which can cut treatment time down to half an hour a day. According
to some researchers the light has to be full spectrum fluorescent
lighting. Although there is evidence it seems for using high
intensity florescent lighting. This could be a crucial factor and
caution is recommended here as fluorescent lighting has shown to be
problematic in a lot of situations.
Light boxes are not available on the NHS and have to be bought from
specialist retailers; and start at less than £100.
Apparently you can try before you buy; several companies offer a
home trial or hire scheme.

Interesting feedback
  A doctor had a patient with severe SAD who was from a psychiatric
hospital interested. The patient in question was a woman who was
about 35. She was an emergency admission because she had tried to
commit suicide. He hadn't realized until then that SAD could be so
life threatening. He found out that she suffered SAD every winter,
but was able to hang on until her kids' February holiday from school
when the family took a vacation in sunny Florida, which immediately
lifted her spirits. Apparently this year the February' vacation
didn't come until the first week of March. She couldn't hold out any
longer.

Another patient aged Male mid-20s was admitted to this same hospital
year after year, generally for several months at a time so severe
was his depression. He always came in about the same time of year,
usually late September, then mysteriously got well and was fine to
go in about Feb/March .He tells us that at other times of the year,
he was just fine. Light therapy was used. Staff noticed that he
became more sociable. Later he paid better attention to personal
hygiene, caring to change his clothes, to bathe himself and to
shave. There is a further report of music then coming from his room
indicating a better mood.

In another study some people can become more vulnerable to feelings
of aloneness and other sad thoughts because of the decreasing hours
of daylight and that it is the shorter day's length which sets the
stage for depression. Scientists. In a now classical research paper
authored by Norman Rosenthal and his colleagues found they could
predict how many of the people they studied would develop SAD
symptoms on the basis of how brief the daylight hours were. As
daylight began noticeably decreasing in September, some people were
affected. By the time the days bracketing the winter solstice came,
almost everyone in the study group was affected. Then, as the season
moved away from the solstice toward spring with lengthening daylight
hours, the number of affected people began to decline. By the end of
May, almost everyone was back to their old selves, some
unfortunately even switching into what psychiatrists call mania.
To make sure that this association between change in mood and amount
of light was more than just mere coincidence, the next step was to
supply light to see if it they could reverse the SAD mood. They used
two different kinds of light; just to make sure the extra attention
paid to the SAD patients wasn't what helped resolve the depression.
The dimmer, yellow light they used had no effect. However, the
brighter light with a frequency spectrum more or less simulating the
frequencies in sunlight, produced a marked change in mood in most
(but not all) the patients who received that treatment. Their mood
lightened, as it were, with the administration of light.

Researchers at medical centers and clinics in the U.S., Canada,
Europe, Asian and Australia have had much success with light therapy
in many thousands of patients with clear histories of SAD for at
least several years. Marked improvement is usually observed within
four or five days, if not sooner and symptoms often return in about
the same amount of time when the lights are withdrawn. Some people
take longer than the usual few days to respond to light. It is
therefore worth persevering for a week or two before concluding that
light therapy doesn't work for you. Most users maintain a consistent
daily schedule of light exposures beginning -as needed - in fall or
winter and usually continuing until spring, when outdoor light
becomes sufficient to maintain good mood and high energy. Some
people can skip treatments for one to three days, occasionally
longer, without ill effect, but most start to slump quickly when
treatment is interrupted.

The first demonstration of clinical effect was in the early 1980's.
Soon after, several research centers initiated clinical trials, and
more than 2,500 SAD patients have been studied to date. The method
has also been used in private practices, in most cases by
psychiatrists, but also by family doctors, psychologists, and
psychiatric social workers and nurses. The number of clinicians
offering light therapy is increasing dramatically year by year,
though compared to drug treatments or psychotherapy, the method is
not yet in widespread use.

17. There are other spiritual influences present in many cases of
depression which I wont go into here , they are real and can be
extremely damaging to the self .But mentioning them here could be
distressing to many people but for the 1% of you who are aware of
spiritual matters I will send this info by e mail.

Hope you enjoy the read and find the will to tackle the problem, as
I said at the beginning getting these things in place can be
challenging but not impossible.
Pho@...

#98 From: "MDX" <how_dreadful@...>
Date: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:47 am
Subject: Why can't I be happy?
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So get this... I was unloved all of my life.  In fact I had given
up, quit leaving the house, stayed in bed and was ready to die!  I
never had a lover until most recently and I am 34.  I have always
been a gloomy mess--ALWAYS!  I never smiled until I met James online
and then we fell in love.  So now I am loved and you think I can be
happy?!!  NO, I can't!  No because I feel cheated.  Besides not
having a lover until I turned 34, I feel cheated because I have a
form of heart disease called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (and James
knows about it) which is an enlarging heart and now I fear I can't
have a long life with James now that I am finally "happy."  For the
last couple of years, I have been feeling sicker and sicker and I
feel as if I may be dying; who knows, maybe five or ten years left
(?).  So instead of enjoying what I have NOW with James, I dwell on
the fact that I am ill and that I will one day die on the most
perfect man I have ever met in my entire life and leave him as
heartbroken as I am or worse.  He tells me things like, "I can't
wait to spend the rest of my life with you," and I cry because I
WILL DIE ON HIM I KNOW.  Then what will happen to my baby(James)?
And I can never let him see me cry because then he will cry
too.  "Don't cry, James, let me cry," I beg!  I feel so plastic
sometimes because I have to smile when in fact I almost wail in his
arms at times.  I love him so dearly and I don't wanna die on him...
FOR GOD'S SAKE!!  But when he is not watching, I cry, and my tears
are not for me but they are for my beloved.  My dearest James, what
will become of you when I am gone?  Why can't I be happy even in
love?  I'm asking you, have you ever had the feeling that you've
been cheated?  Please, can somebody please write me back to help me
stop torturing myself and to finally live happily and love and be
loved before I die, please?  and thank you...

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#97 From: "Thomas Anderson" <thomasand007@...>
Date: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:11 pm
Subject: statins (cholesterol lowering drugs) and depression
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stent insertion and recuperation period he returns to his previous
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the NIH Statin Study headed by Dr. Beatrice Golomb, and ultimately
the root of his mental/emotional malfunctioning over the previous 2
years.

Negative side effects caused by statins have been well documented in
medical studies, however only a few people have actually detailed on
a daily basis the many disruptions in profession and private life.

The author details his own 2 point plan for recovery - physical
recovery, and mental/emotional recovery. What had started out as a
tool for physical rehabilitation, bicycle riding, eventually became a
daily obsession - initially to convince the doctors that the
stringent 100 LDL ceiling should be waived because of his ironically
excellent physical stamina (120 km trail bike riding every week).
Regarding mental/emotional recovery, the author describes his
experience at a number of seminars that he participated in, and the
crucial role that the seminars played in 'their' (the author's and
his wife's) recovery from 'his' heart attack.

Meticulously researched, the author quotes from dozens of medical
studies, exposing major contradictions among doctors, and ultimately
puts his own life on the line by adapting the emerging medical view
and lifestyle that cholesterol is NOT a cause of heart disease, in
direct contrast to accepted cardiological doctrine.

The book is available directly from the publisher at
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#96 From: Susan Schneider <susan_s04@...>
Date: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:10 pm
Subject: my story on fatigue and depression
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Hi,
Im an 18 year old female from Wisconsin.  Currently, I am a freshman in college.  I have been suffering with chronic fatigue that greatly intervenes with my daily life.  I've been struggling with this awful fatigue for 2 years now.  Though my only main symptom is extreme fatigue with frequent panic attacks, doctors believe that I have depression.  This to me, is hard to believe, given the fact I don't necessarly feel depressed.  If I do experience these depressing or sad feelings, it is due to the fatigue I have every second.  I haven't had a significant event or anything that would cause this to happen.  Currently, I am taking Wellbutrin (I've only been on it for 9 days.)  Mostly, I feel as if there is no one else out there that feels exactly as I do, which makes me feel even more down.  If any of you out there have a similar story or suggestions, please e-mail at susan_s04@....   (for all of you struggling- reference Rev. 21:4)


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#95 From: "whyme519" <hybrid1982@...>
Date: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:26 pm
Subject: new here
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help, i have trie tons of meds for fepression and they either zone
me out or cause panic attacks. Is anyone sesitive to meds.  has
anyone tried Lexapro with good results? thanks LuLu

#94 From: "amazing_grace1962" <amazing_grace1962@...>
Date: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Effexor Withdrawl Symptoms
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Hi Fairymamma
I dont know much about the drug you are taking.
But I do know the drug(paxil) I use to be on, was very addictive.
I was on it for 8 yrs. I was taking 30 mil a day. I told my doctor I
wanted to go off from it. So he wanted me go down to 20 mil for a
week then down to 10. Boy was that ever too fast! I had itching and
severe brain zaps. It was so awful, I thought I was going to loose my
mind. So I went back up to 20 mil for a while, then down to 10 mil.
It took me almost a year to ween off but I did it! God helped me pull
through. Also I had a wonderful husband by my side.
I dont have the emails set up to my email so if you wish you can
directly email me.
If your still trying to get off that drug you need to take your time
and ween down slowly.
I wish you the best.
God Bless
Marilyn


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<fairymammat@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone, I am new to this and just was wondering if there was
> anyone out there who has suffered withdrawls trying to get off of
> their anti-depressants?  I have been on Effexor for two years now
and
> I decided that my life had taken a turn for the better and I didn't
> need to be on them anymore.  I have been suffering the worst side
> effects from this and found out that I am NOT on my own, there are
> several of us out here feeling way worse and more depressed trying
to
> get off of these drugs.  My Doctor seems to think it is all in my
> head but I know for a fact it is not! I found a web-site called
> effexor petition that justified everything I was feeling!  Take the
> time to read some of the things this drug can do to you and
whatever
> you do if you are looking for relief from depression DO NOT take
this
> drug.  The withdrawl sysmptoms far out weigh any good this drug
could
> ever do!  Let me know what ya think and Please visit and Sign the
> Petition to get the FDA to take another look at this drug!
> Fairymamma

#93 From: "Lindsay" <rikimuk@...>
Date: Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:30 pm
Subject: Im new
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Hi Guys,

I have just joined today.

I think Im depressed. My Grandad died in January and I thought I was
doing OK but for the last few months I feel constantly tired and
have no energy for anything. Im also hungry all the time and have
put on almost two stones in weight. I dont know what the hell to
do??? I went to the doctor yesterday and he wasnt really any help Im
having blood tests next week to see if he can see anything but he
just went on about my weight so I feel even worse now. I am weepy
all the time and I just feel like I cant function properly any more.
All help or advice appriciated.

Lindsay

#92 From: "energy206823" <energy206823@...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:43 am
Subject: fresh romance, date, lifestyle........
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#91 From: Kelly Wortkoetter <kellykebby@...>
Date: Mon Jun 7, 2004 2:33 am
Subject: Re: Effexor Withdrawl Symptoms
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Hi Fairymama, I am currently trying to get off of Zoloft and am having the same problems. It's terrible. Sugar makes it worse though.  Take care,  Kel
 
 


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#90 From: "fairymammat" <fairymammat@...>
Date: Wed May 26, 2004 12:27 am
Subject: Effexor Withdrawl Symptoms
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Hi everyone, I am new to this and just was wondering if there was
anyone out there who has suffered withdrawls trying to get off of
their anti-depressants?  I have been on Effexor for two years now and
I decided that my life had taken a turn for the better and I didn't
need to be on them anymore.  I have been suffering the worst side
effects from this and found out that I am NOT on my own, there are
several of us out here feeling way worse and more depressed trying to
get off of these drugs.  My Doctor seems to think it is all in my
head but I know for a fact it is not! I found a web-site called
effexor petition that justified everything I was feeling!  Take the
time to read some of the things this drug can do to you and whatever
you do if you are looking for relief from depression DO NOT take this
drug.  The withdrawl sysmptoms far out weigh any good this drug could
ever do!  Let me know what ya think and Please visit and Sign the
Petition to get the FDA to take another look at this drug!
Fairymamma

#89 From: april baum <sassy11augie@...>
Date: Tue May 11, 2004 1:47 am
Subject: new member
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Hello - I am a new member, A.D., and I wanted to know does this group meet to chat at anytime as a group?? Please contact me w/ some basic info - thank you for your time-
 
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#88 From: "Gary Hochstatter" <ghochs@...>
Date: Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:35 am
Subject: RE: hi new member
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Hello Kelly,

I was able to get off of Wellbutrin and Prozac when I finally discovered
"The Zone Diet" by Dr. Barry Sears.  That and excercise has really helped
me, get one of the books and here is the website: drsears.com

Good luck,
Gary

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HI, I am Kelly, I have been on Zoloft for anxiety and depression on
and off for 4 years. I am trying to use a different diet high in
nutrients to help me get off of it. It is very difficult. I was
hoping to hear other peoples' struggles and successes. I feel like I
weaned myself off to fast recently and now am having horrid symptoms,
headaches, light sensitivity, constant anxiety, and bad panic attacks
that wake me out of my sleep. I would like to believe it is possible
to live without this drug. I believe most of the medicines doctors
push are toxic, unless they come directly from nature. I also have
lupus which I believe was caused by a build up of toxins. Thanks for
having a group like this.   Kelly in PA.






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#87 From: "kellykebby" <kellykebby@...>
Date: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:30 pm
Subject: hi new member
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HI, I am Kelly, I have been on Zoloft for anxiety and depression on
and off for 4 years. I am trying to use a different diet high in
nutrients to help me get off of it. It is very difficult. I was
hoping to hear other peoples' struggles and successes. I feel like I
weaned myself off to fast recently and now am having horrid symptoms,
headaches, light sensitivity, constant anxiety, and bad panic attacks
that wake me out of my sleep. I would like to believe it is possible
to live without this drug. I believe most of the medicines doctors
push are toxic, unless they come directly from nature. I also have
lupus which I believe was caused by a build up of toxins. Thanks for
having a group like this.   Kelly in PA.

#86 From: "freudianslip001" <freudianslip001@...>
Date: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:43 pm
Subject: Using Popular Music to Heal
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My name is Matt and I'm a clinical therapist. I discovered long ago
that people can't just sit down and talk about their feelings.  I
love music, and have been using that as a way to reach my clients.  I
play guitar, and have written alot of my own music about the many
horrible things I have seen some of my clients face.  Once I began
playing these things back for them I realized the power of this type
of intervention!

I believe that music can act as a powerful healing force.  I will
often explore popular music with my clients, and discuss the
therapeutic values present in them.  For example, I love playing
Pink's song family portrait for them.  It is a song about how if you
look at the family picture on the wall, everyone is happy.  But the
reality is the family is falling apart.

I have a website, and am trying to start a newsletter that I will
send out on a regular basis, featuring a "discussion" of popular
songs that can be used to help us process and express our feelings.
I already have compiled several songs (over 150) but that is really
the tip of the iceburg!  I hope that many of you will take an
interest in this!

If you would like to subscribe, please send me an email at
subscribe@...  Oh yeah, I call my "therapeutic"
rock band Freudian Slip, because I sing songs about how people really
feel inside, and a Freudian Slip gives us a view of that!
Take care,
Matt

#85 From: "forestwillow13" <forestwillow13@...>
Date: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:32 am
Subject: Is this group dead?
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Why isn't anyone posting in this group?
ForestWillow

#84 From: "smitha_george_love" <smitha_george_love@...>
Date: Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:36 am
Subject: www.lovebyrd.com
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hi
i have lot of problems previuosly ,and i was searching for good
frnds and advices for FREE,then i gotthis site

www.lovebyrd.com

where everything is free and i thought i can help some of my frnds
with same disabilities.

http://www.lovebyrd.com/findamatch.php

smitha george

#83 From: Charlene Russ <lorena1971us@...>
Date: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:22 am
Subject: Re: new
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--- shreiman@... wrote:
> I am new and my name is Pauline.  Well, I am finally
> sick of this day.  I don't celebrate Christmas
> because I am Jewish and I get so sick of the world
> closing down and acting like everyone celebrates
> this holiday.  This leads to hating my life, wishing
> I didn't have an illness, wishing I had a normal
> life, a boy fiend........Can't wait til tomarrow.
> Pauline
>
>
Hi Pauline,

I think that even most Christians are sick of this
holiday,  which has become insanely commercialized and
completely lost in monetary concerns.  Sorry this is
being posted so late.  Unfortunately I don't check
this box too often.  How are things going with you
now?

best wishes,

-Charlene


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#82 From: "shreiman" <shreiman@...>
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:42 am
Subject: Pauline
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Well, my update. Volunteering isn't going so well.  I called
hospitals-they have sent me applications. I have to go through
orientation, have a complete medical and an interview. This would be
for one day a week.  Schools-nothing available.  I called some
synagogues and they want me to come to their services to get to know
me which is difficult. I have social phobia and don't feel like
sitting in a synagogue for 2 hours lost.  It is hard for me to go to
those places alone.  I end up feeling like a little girl.  I have
called various places to take a crochet or knit class. Nothing going
now.  I wonder if things are going to just stay as they are.  I can't
give me away.  I'm depressed. Pauline

#81 From: "shreiman" <shreiman@...>
Date: Sat Mar 6, 2004 1:10 am
Subject: Pauline
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I am going to call Childrens hospital where I live and see if I can
get there by bus and volunteer.  I just need to keep calling.  I have
a smile and am a loving caring person. There has to be some where's I
can use that gift. I need more of a purpose to my life.  And I like
children. Can't lift them but would like to spend some time with
them.  Pauline

#80 From: "shreiman" <shreiman@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 4:16 am
Subject: sad tonight
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I feel very sad tonight.  We all have our days and this is mine.  I
have been on a journey for a month visiting Orthodox homes for
Shabbath and finally realized the group of people I was seeing was
not for me. So that was a loss.  And is a loss.  I am lonely.
Watched primetime tonight about poligimous relationships and felt-I
know it's against the bible and society but they are happy.  How many
people aren't.  If they are happy, let them be.  To feel their peace
for 5 minutes I would be happy.  Even as for gay people the same
goes.  Let them be happy. There are so many unhappy people. That's
better?

I look at my life and try to accept it.  I can't work because of
tremendous anxiety and back trouble and if I did and made more than
$150. per month I'd end up in a Medicaide spenddown and couldn't
afford my perscriptions. If I developed a home business(well, same
would go and my apartment place would through me our-HUD).  OK. I try
to accept.  I am looking for someone to date. Asking for people.
Everyone wants to tell a prospect that I'm on disability.  Then they
aren't interested.  I would like to go out to dinner and a movie.
Enjoy life.  Can't by myself. Have no money.  Like to enjoy someone's
company.  Don't have many friends who are there for me physically.
Actually none.  Even someone to give me a hug.  I know there are
worse people out there who have illnesses and I am thankful for that
but it so hard to not think about what I would enjoy to do.  I can't
volunteer because of my back and because I have trouble functioning
around people.  Get shy.  I watch Dr. Phil today and felt so envious
of his wife.  Why can't I have a wonderful husband or be as strong as
her.  I envied her father.  Sorry, Just trying to find my way.
Pauline

#79 From: sandy carter <kydogmom@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:17 am
Subject: Re: need advice
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shreiman <shreiman@...> wrote:

Hi

I would not tell anyone  because we get judged before we have a chace for the guys to see who we are really

I would put homemaker and that I have my own income

if a guy probes abour your income right off the bat drop him

I wouldtell the guy about my problem only after I met him

he wont tellyou everything eiether


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#78 From: DeafJRT@...
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: need advice
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In a message dated 2/27/2004 6:30:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, shreiman@... writes:
I want a man to give me a chance
to meet me than after a couple of dates find out I have an illness. 
I could put down I am on unemployment or developing a home business
on the internet.  What should I say? What do you think? Pauline
>>>>>>>>>>
 
I would.  Afterall, if someone reads you are on psychiatric disability, people are stupid and will think you are a freak or something.  know what I mean?  So totally...write you are self employed or something.   Just remember to come clean at some point if you meet someone and fall in love with eachother:)  good luck!!!

#77 From: "shreiman" <shreiman@...>
Date: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:17 pm
Subject: 5 month old
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I am a few egroups so excuse this email. There was a woman who has a
5 month old and two other children  who's child was up every 4 hours,
wouldn't eat and the woman was going to take the child to the doctor
yesterday.  I am concerned about both mom and child. If it is you
could you let me or the group know what happened.  She was very
stressed out from lack of sleep. Thanks, Pauline

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