... Hence the reason I said "most", not "all". ... Simply not the case. Teachers are a part of the production process due to their role in the production and...
... ... Except that class consciousness is what people have when they recognize the need for workers' control of production and distribution, and such a social...
... due to ... -- as ... Police ... the state ... Many schools have police officers as part of the educational structure proving a multitude of support...
... recognize ... happened ... is there a reference for that? Why use "class conscious" when "agrees that workers ought to be in collective control of the...
... das writes: It looks like "class consciousness" is EVERYTHING BUT advocating for worker collective control of the industrial means of production and ...
... From point 10 (of 28) of the League's Basic Principles: "In all, the workers' republic has four main tasks: 1) the ouster of the bourgeoisie from political...
Go all the way down to #10 and it's the third item. not quite the equating of class consciousness with the advocacy of collective worker control is it? ... ...
Here's a better example for both of you (Miles and Dave). It doesn't "go all the way down to #10"; it merely goes all the way down to #4 (Miles, you'll really...
... ROFL!! I think David's finally found the party he should join. He wants "collective worker control" without class consciousness, then that's exactly what...
... Yes, like shaking down students and beating them up. That's one hell of a "support function". ... Nope. Not really. ... I had a Driver's Education...
sure, and we have SOME teachers committing atrocities as well, and we have teachers participating to the same extent that jailers would in the imprisoning of...
collective control of the industrial means of production by the workers "not the be all and end all" of "class consciousness". Of course not. But recall this...
RE: [deleonism-list] Re: everything but worker collective control ... Henry replied I never drew such a crude equal sign between the two. Now I see why Jacob ...
... But, again, not so crudely. ... Jacob may be using a false name, but at least he's not flying a false flag. ... We don't have any relationship to the...
... That whirring sound you hear is DeLeon spinning in his grave. ... Let's go through what each of the 28 points covers: 1. What is and is not communism 2....
... To be honest, I don't think it would matter what I say to you on this or any other subject. You don't listen to others completely; you only hear what you ...
Hi All, I will have to settle for making rare appearances. Looks like a lot of other people no longer have internet access. People are tightening their belts....
... Ulyanov.) ... false flag. my prime objection is that he participated in this list and didn't tell anyone that his name wasn't Jacob Richter. Secondly he...
... articles of ... exposed to ... though -- ... "something ... DeLeonism. You ... that, ... "exposure" to Catholicism? In fact I saw a commentator on TV just...
henry wrote: class consciousness is what people have when they recognize the need for workers' control of production and distribution David Searles wrote: not...
Caveman, since you don't happen to be very knowledgeable about the history of the workers' movement globally, my earlier quote: "To secure for the workers by...
... be ... system ... I am happy that I asked, thank you. See, the wording was too damned obtuse - that's apparently why the social-fascists, as you say, were...
rewrite Re: seems like an equating to me henry wrote in 896: class consciousness is what people have when they recognize the need for workers' control of...
Hi, I believe the sole reason for the majority of not wanting to change the present system is that there is no talk of what the nuts and bolts of the new...
jt wrote: Social ownership through industrial unions is the foundation of the representative government of labor is an idea that people can grasp. Getting an...
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