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#3103 From: "ricbest2001" <RicBest@...>
Date: Mon Feb 4, 2008 5:26 pm
Subject: Readings
ricbest2001
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#3104 From: "cyaarsoil" <yasi_p@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:21 am
Subject: concordance
cyaarsoil
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If I had a concordance I'd look up "muddle" and "cog" and "brain".
Does anyone?

If I built a concordance I'd do it by time,
Yasi Perera

#3105 From: "nivekgnir" <kdring@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:36 pm
Subject: Kiss me . . .
nivekgnir
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I just got a funny little tidbit from Chip:

-----------------------

At last week's AWP conference, at the Fiction Collective-2 book table,
they were giving away buttons that read: "KISS ME! I'VE READ HOGG!"
Cross my heart, it wasn't my idea! But it might raise the odd eyebrow,
or even elicit one or two dark chuckles.
Possibly people can get them from the Publisher, whose offices are at
Flordia State U.
All best--
--Chip

-----------------------

I hope everyone finds that as amusing as I did!

#3106 From: Peter Fogarty <oga@...>
Date: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:34 am
Subject: Re: Kiss me . . .
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Oh! I wish I could get some!

nivekgnir wrote:
> I just got a funny little tidbit from Chip:
>
> -----------------------
>
> At last week's AWP conference, at the Fiction Collective-2 book table,
> they were giving away buttons that read: "KISS ME! I'VE READ HOGG!"
> Cross my heart, it wasn't my idea! But it might raise the odd eyebrow,
> or even elicit one or two dark chuckles.
> Possibly people can get them from the Publisher, whose offices are at
> Flordia State U.
> All best--
> --Chip
>
> -----------------------
>
> I hope everyone finds that as amusing as I did!
>
>
>
> == Posted to delany-list, hosted at yahoo groups ==
> == A mailing list for the discussion of the works of Samuel R. Delany. ==
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

#3107 From: "Keith Knight" <keithknight@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:31 am
Subject: RE: The Polymath, or The Life and Opinions of Samuel R. Delany, Gentleman
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The Polymath is to receive a UK showing in London at the National Film
Theatre's Lesbian and Gay Film Festival on Sunday 6 Apr @1610. blog

  <http://www.bfi.org.uk/llgff/polymath_or_life_and_opinions>
http://www.bfi.org.uk/llgff/polymath_or_life_and_opinions

Keith

This is likely to be the only UK showing I'd guess.
Keith
I'm definitely going - are either of you interested?  Booking opens on
Thursday for NFT members and I'll want to apply by Weds - I can drop the
application in from work.  But I'm limited to two tickets at this point
- although this will free up once it's opened to non-members on 8 Mar
(assuming there are seats left). This is at the smallish NFT 2.




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#3108 From: seamonster@...
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:09 pm
Subject: recent article
treibglas
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dear all,
i just got hold of a new article on delany. it is published in the most
recent number of *zeitschrift für anglistik und amerikanistik.* it is
written in german, though.

Jürgen Joachimsthaler: "'the spaces between the columns': Die Text-Räume
und Raum-Texte des Samuel R. Delany" *Zeitschrift für Anglistik und
Amerikanistik* 55.4(2007): 395-416.

best,
simon

#3109 From: "Pete Lenz" <sinisterra23@...>
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2008 4:02 pm
Subject: Chip's next NYC reading
sinisterra23
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Does anyone know when Chip will be reading in NYC again?

Best,

-Pete

#3110 From: "ricbest2001" <RicBest@...>
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:07 pm
Subject: 20th Annual Lambdas
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Hello All,
It's official! Congrats to Chip, he deserves it !
http://www.queerwriters.com/queer_writers/2008/03/finalists-for-20th-annual-lamb\
.html
Best of Luck,
Ric

#3111 From: "Rick Harrison" <rico_harrison@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2008 3:46 am
Subject: Dhalgren in Italian still in print?
rico_harrison
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Is the Italian translation of Dhalgren still in print?

If anyone can provide the ISBN I would be grateful. I would like to
obtain a copy, new if possible, otherwise used.

#3112 From: Biblioteca <bibnaz@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: Dhalgren in Italian still in print?
bibnaz
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Rick Harrison ha scritto:
> Is the Italian translation of Dhalgren still in print?
>
> If anyone can provide the ISBN I would be grateful. I would like to
> obtain a copy, new if possible, otherwise used.

Since I did translate it, I feel obliged to answer. In the publisher's
site (http://www.fanucci.it/) it is not clear whether the book is still
in print or not. I wrote just 10 minutes ago to Fanucci and am waiting
for an answer. I'll keep you informed.
Anyway the ISBN is: 8834709705

bye
Maurizio Nati

#3113 From: "Mischa B. Adams" <mischabadams@...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:47 pm
Subject: link to video clip from The Polymath
mischabadams
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http://www.maestromedia.net/

(thanks to Ryan Randall who found it)

#3114 From: "Jorge Rapalo" <JRapalo@...>
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:51 am
Subject: Re: link to video clip from The Polymath
jr_furioso
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Thanks!

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Mischa B. Adams <mischabadams@...> wrote:
> http://www.maestromedia.net/
>
>  (thanks to Ryan Randall who found it)
>

#3115 From: Todd Mason <foxbrick@...>
Date: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:20 pm
Subject: (No subject)
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Friday's "Forgotten" Books: Patti Abbott's Meme

We're off to an early start with Friday's "Forgotten" Books, being caretaken by
me this week while Patti Abbott, the instigator and usual host, is attempting a
vacation.

The idea: is there a book, or for many participants one of a number of books,
that you feel is unfairly obscure, or at least important enough that you'd like
to write a brief blurb touting it to the assembled blogosphere? Please write
that up for Friday morning-afternoon posting (or when you can get it in), post
it on your blog, and let me know you've done so, with your blog entry address,
please. If you don't have a blog and want to play, I'll post your piece on my
blog if you like.

Bill Crider is the first entrant this week that I'm aware of, and his citation
of Henry Kane's Too French and Too Deadly is here.   – as in
http://billcrider.blogspot.com/

and
http://billcrider.blogspot.com/2008/06/forgotten-books-too-french-and-too.html

My relevant address: 
http://socialistjazz.blogspot.com/2008/06/fridays-forgotten-books-patti-abbotts.\
html

(Delany and Ballard listers are certainly allowed to tout Delany and Ballard, or
not.)

And apologies to anyone getting bombarded by crossposting.

Todd Mason

#3116 From: "ricbest2001" <RicBest@...>
Date: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:34 pm
Subject: Polymath
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Hello All,
Just received the catalog for the 14th Philadelphia International Gay and
Lesbian Film Festival
and they are showing Fred Barney Taylors' Polymath, or the Life and Opinions of
Samuel R.
Delany, Gentleman on Friday July 18th at 9:30pm at the Arts Bank.
More info about all the events at http://www.phillyfests.com/pff/2008/home.cfm
Hope to see you there!
Ric

#3117 From: "techwritertx" <techwritertx@...>
Date: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:21 pm
Subject: starboard wine
techwritertx
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I have found a copy of the dragon press 1st edition signed by the author.

#3118 From: "Eli Bishop" <ibitzkay@...>
Date: Mon Jul 7, 2008 12:30 am
Subject: rest in peace, Disch
elibrn
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Maybe everyone here already knows this, but: Thomas M. Disch died two
days ago in New York, reportedly suicide.

Along with Delany, Vonnegut, and a handful of others, he wrote things
that seem to me like some of the greatest treasures of human culture
in the last hundred years... except I can't really tell, because to me
they're just like vital organs of my own mind and heart now.

I knew people who knew him, but I never met him -- and, to be honest,
I would've been a little afraid to meet him given the opportunity,
because the bitterness of his public persona had reached Kingsley Amis
proportions. Reading his online journal was often like looking into an
open wound, which once in a while would divulge a pearl of humor or a
ridiculously good poem. Being a selfish reader, among all the pain on
display what bothered me most was that he had never reconciled with
Chip (over something that, from the little I know about it, was too
stupid to repeat). Well, either we're all reconciled in the end, or it
won't matter.

I was going to write something about having just seen The Polymath,
but I'm too damn sad now.

Eli

#3119 From: "Amy Harlib" <aharlib@...>
Date: Mon Jul 7, 2008 10:17 am
Subject: Re: rest in peace, Disch
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I'm very sad to read this.
He will be missed.
Amy


>
> Maybe everyone here already knows this, but: Thomas M. Disch died two
> days ago in New York, reportedly suicide.
>
> Along with Delany, Vonnegut, and a handful of others, he wrote things
> that seem to me like some of the greatest treasures of human culture
> in the last hundred years... except I can't really tell, because to me
> they're just like vital organs of my own mind and heart now.
>
> I knew people who knew him, but I never met him -- and, to be honest,
> I would've been a little afraid to meet him given the opportunity,
> because the bitterness of his public persona had reached Kingsley Amis
> proportions. Reading his online journal was often like looking into an
> open wound, which once in a while would divulge a pearl of humor or a
> ridiculously good poem. Being a selfish reader, among all the pain on
> display what bothered me most was that he had never reconciled with
> Chip (over something that, from the little I know about it, was too
> stupid to repeat). Well, either we're all reconciled in the end, or it
> won't matter.
>
> I was going to write something about having just seen The Polymath,
> but I'm too damn sad now.
>
> Eli
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> == Posted to delany-list, hosted at yahoo groups ==
> == A mailing list for the discussion of the works of Samuel R. Delany.
> ==Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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#3120 From: "nivekgnir" <kdring@...>
Date: Mon Jul 7, 2008 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: rest in peace, Disch
nivekgnir
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RIP.


--- In delany-list@yahoogroups.com, "Eli Bishop" <ibitzkay@...> wrote:
>
>
> Maybe everyone here already knows this, but: Thomas M. Disch died two
> days ago in New York, reportedly suicide.
>
> Along with Delany, Vonnegut, and a handful of others, he wrote things
> that seem to me like some of the greatest treasures of human culture
> in the last hundred years... except I can't really tell, because to me
> they're just like vital organs of my own mind and heart now.
>
> I knew people who knew him, but I never met him -- and, to be honest,
> I would've been a little afraid to meet him given the opportunity,
> because the bitterness of his public persona had reached Kingsley Amis
> proportions. Reading his online journal was often like looking into an
> open wound, which once in a while would divulge a pearl of humor or a
> ridiculously good poem. Being a selfish reader, among all the pain on
> display what bothered me most was that he had never reconciled with
> Chip (over something that, from the little I know about it, was too
> stupid to repeat). Well, either we're all reconciled in the end, or it
> won't matter.
>
> I was going to write something about having just seen The Polymath,
> but I'm too damn sad now.
>
> Eli
>

#3121 From: "nivekgnir" <kdring@...>
Date: Mon Jul 7, 2008 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
nivekgnir
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Thought I'd resurrect this little thread for an update.

Chip is still expanding the book. When I first reviewed it, it had
become a 55,000 word novel grown out of the original 16,000 word
novella. It's now nearly 97,000 words and growing.

And it's marvelous. Chip has added more SF and light future history
elements. This has added quite a bit of texture to the novel in that
it more clearly feels as though we have jumped into the future. The
relationships and characters are deeper and more complex.

But the best part is that it's pure, brilliant Delany. The more I read
it, the more I love this book.

I can't wait for it to be finished so everyone can have a chance to
experience this fantastic novel.

--Kevin


--- In delany-list@yahoogroups.com, "nivekgnir" <kdring@...> wrote:
>
>
> Issue 7 of Black Clock magazine contains "In the Valley of the Nest
> of Spiders", a 16-thousand word novella by Samuel R. Delany. Through
> the Valley of the Nest of Spiders,due from Bamberger Books in the summer
> or fall of 2008, is a more than threefold expansion of that work. The
> novel follows Eric, a young man just eleven days shy of his seventeenth
> birthday.
>
> It would not be unreasonable to look at Through the Valley of the Nest
> of Spiders as a companion piece to Dark Reflections, Delany's most
> recently published novel. But where that novel centers on themes of
> loneliness, sexual repression,fear, and the difficult life of the
> artist, Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders, in sharp contrast,
> celebrates companionship, love, sexual openness, and freedom. Like Dark
> Reflections, Spiders moves through time. However, Dark Reflections
> starts in the present day and goes back towards Arnold Hawley's
> teens. Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders takes a different
> track, starting in the present day, jumping ahead to the twilight of
> Eric's life, and then moving back in 20-odd short chapters to the
> present day once again. Though it does move several decades into the
> future and off-handedly mentions fictional future events and
> technologies, I would hesitate to call this a science fiction novel.
> (Then again, I wouldn't argue against that label, either.)
>
> Another major contrast is that where Arnold's background, friends,
> and experiences provide him with strongly intellectual surroundings and
> attitude, Eric's life and surroundings are anything but. Yet I
> believe it would be a huge mistake to take Arnold's life
> (intellectual, lonely, and sexually repressed), compare it with
> Eric's (satisfying, rewarding, yet unsophisticated), and read it as
> a rejection of intellectualism by Delany!
>
> Towards the end of Dark Reflections, we learn that Arnold Hawley ran
> away in fear from a situation that would likely have changed the course
> of his life. Early in Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders,Eric is
> told a story by Bill Bottom, a neighbor of his. Bill, like Arnold,ran
> away from a situation that had the potential for great happiness. He
> concludes by asking Eric to promise that when he is presented with his
> own choice—and, Bill insists, that moment will come—to choose
> happiness, no matter how afraid he might be to take that path. Whatever
> the genre may be (science fiction, gay porn, mainstream literature?),
> this is a novel of love, relationships, and the consequences—both
> good and bad—of taking that chance and making the choice to go after
> what makes you happy.
>
> I personally enjoyed this novel very much. Perhaps more so than any of
> Delany's books since StarsIn My Pocket Like Grains of Sand. It made
> me happy.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#3122 From: David Carlton <carlton@...>
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2008 4:28 am
Subject: Re: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
carlton_db
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:45:23 -0000, "nivekgnir" <kdring@...> said:

> Thought I'd resurrect this little thread for an update.
> Chip is still expanding the book. When I first reviewed it, it had
> become a 55,000 word novel grown out of the original 16,000 word
> novella. It's now nearly 97,000 words and growing.

> And it's marvelous. Chip has added more SF and light future history
> elements. This has added quite a bit of texture to the novel in that
> it more clearly feels as though we have jumped into the future. The
> relationships and characters are deeper and more complex.

> But the best part is that it's pure, brilliant Delany. The more I read
> it, the more I love this book.

> I can't wait for it to be finished so everyone can have a chance to
> experience this fantastic novel.

Thanks for the news!

David Carlton
carlton@...

#3123 From: Patrick Kapty <pkapty@...>
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2008 2:30 am
Subject: Re: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
pkapty
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Glad to hear it!
Guess it's too much to hope that sometime soon he'll write
the sequel to "The Stars in my Pocket..." (hint) (hint)
I've been waiting a loooooong time for that one!!!

-- Patrick




----- Original Message ----
From: nivekgnir <kdring@...>
To: delany-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:45:23 PM
Subject: [delany-list] Re: A new Delany novel is on its way


Thought I'd resurrect this little thread for an update.

Chip is still expanding the book. When I first reviewed it, it had
become a 55,000 word novel grown out of the original 16,000 word
novella. It's now nearly 97,000 words and growing.

And it's marvelous. Chip has added more SF and light future history
elements. This has added quite a bit of texture to the novel in that
it more clearly feels as though we have jumped into the future. The
relationships and characters are deeper and more complex.

But the best part is that it's pure, brilliant Delany. The more I read
it, the more I love this book.

I can't wait for it to be finished so everyone can have a chance to
experience this fantastic novel.

--Kevin

--- In delany-list@ yahoogroups. com, "nivekgnir" <kdring@...> wrote:
>
>
> Issue 7 of Black Clock magazine contains "In the Valley of the Nest
> of Spiders", a 16-thousand word novella by Samuel R. Delany. Through
> the Valley of the Nest of Spiders,due from Bamberger Books in the summer
> or fall of 2008, is a more than threefold expansion of that work. The
> novel follows Eric, a young man just eleven days shy of his seventeenth
> birthday.
>
> It would not be unreasonable to look at Through the Valley of the Nest
> of Spiders as a companion piece to Dark Reflections, Delany's most
> recently published novel. But where that novel centers on themes of
> loneliness, sexual repression,fear, and the difficult life of the
> artist, Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders, in sharp contrast,
> celebrates companionship, love, sexual openness, and freedom. Like Dark
> Reflections, Spiders moves through time. However, Dark Reflections
> starts in the present day and goes back towards Arnold Hawley's
> teens. Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders takes a different
> track, starting in the present day, jumping ahead to the twilight of
> Eric's life, and then moving back in 20-odd short chapters to the
> present day once again. Though it does move several decades into the
> future and off-handedly mentions fictional future events and
> technologies, I would hesitate to call this a science fiction novel.
> (Then again, I wouldn't argue against that label, either.)
>
> Another major contrast is that where Arnold's background, friends,
> and experiences provide him with strongly intellectual surroundings and
> attitude, Eric's life and surroundings are anything but. Yet I
> believe it would be a huge mistake to take Arnold's life
> (intellectual, lonely, and sexually repressed), compare it with
> Eric's (satisfying, rewarding, yet unsophisticated) , and read it as
> a rejection of intellectualism by Delany!
>
> Towards the end of Dark Reflections, we learn that Arnold Hawley ran
> away in fear from a situation that would likely have changed the course
> of his life. Early in Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders,Eric is
> told a story by Bill Bottom, a neighbor of his. Bill, like Arnold,ran
> away from a situation that had the potential for great happiness. He
> concludes by asking Eric to promise that when he is presented with his
> own choice—and, Bill insists, that moment will come—to choose
> happiness, no matter how afraid he might be to take that path. Whatever
> the genre may be (science fiction, gay porn, mainstream literature?) ,
> this is a novel of love, relationships, and the consequences— both
> good and bad—of taking that chance and making the choice to go after
> what makes you happy.
>
> I personally enjoyed this novel very much. Perhaps more so than any of
> Delany's books since StarsIn My Pocket Like Grains of Sand. It made
> me happy.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#3124 From: "keefboof" <keefboof@...>
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2008 7:40 am
Subject: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
keefboof
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Do we have a release date for this novel yet?



--- In delany-list@yahoogroups.com, David Carlton <carlton@...> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:45:23 -0000, "nivekgnir" <kdring@...> said:
>
> > Thought I'd resurrect this little thread for an update.
> > Chip is still expanding the book. When I first reviewed it, it had
> > become a 55,000 word novel grown out of the original 16,000 word
> > novella. It's now nearly 97,000 words and growing.
>
> > And it's marvelous. Chip has added more SF and light future
history
> > elements. This has added quite a bit of texture to the novel in
that
> > it more clearly feels as though we have jumped into the future.
The
> > relationships and characters are deeper and more complex.
>
> > But the best part is that it's pure, brilliant Delany. The more I
read
> > it, the more I love this book.
>
> > I can't wait for it to be finished so everyone can have a chance
to
> > experience this fantastic novel.
>
> Thanks for the news!
>
> David Carlton
> carlton@...
>

#3125 From: "nivekgnir" <kdring@...>
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2008 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
nivekgnir
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Well, it was originally slated for Summer/Fall of this year. But since
it's already Summer and he's still working on it, that doesn't seem
very likely.


--- In delany-list@yahoogroups.com, "keefboof" <keefboof@...> wrote:
>
> Do we have a release date for this novel yet?
>
>
>
> --- In delany-list@yahoogroups.com, David Carlton <carlton@> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:45:23 -0000, "nivekgnir" <kdring@> said:
> >
> > > Thought I'd resurrect this little thread for an update.
> > > Chip is still expanding the book. When I first reviewed it, it had
> > > become a 55,000 word novel grown out of the original 16,000 word
> > > novella. It's now nearly 97,000 words and growing.
> >
> > > And it's marvelous. Chip has added more SF and light future
> history
> > > elements. This has added quite a bit of texture to the novel in
> that
> > > it more clearly feels as though we have jumped into the future.
> The
> > > relationships and characters are deeper and more complex.
> >
> > > But the best part is that it's pure, brilliant Delany. The more I
> read
> > > it, the more I love this book.
> >
> > > I can't wait for it to be finished so everyone can have a chance
> to
> > > experience this fantastic novel.
> >
> > Thanks for the news!
> >
> > David Carlton
> > carlton@
> >
>

#3126 From: "nivekgnir" <kdring@...>
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2008 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
nivekgnir
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I've dropped that same hint, myself. You are not alone in wanting to
see that book become a reality.


--- In delany-list@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Kapty <pkapty@...> wrote:
>
> Glad to hear it!
> Guess it's too much to hope that sometime soon he'll write
> the sequel to "The Stars in my Pocket..." (hint) (hint)
> I've been waiting a loooooong time for that one!!!
>
> -- Patrick
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: nivekgnir <kdring@...>
> To: delany-list@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:45:23 PM
> Subject: [delany-list] Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
>
>
> Thought I'd resurrect this little thread for an update.
>
> Chip is still expanding the book. When I first reviewed it, it had
> become a 55,000 word novel grown out of the original 16,000 word
> novella. It's now nearly 97,000 words and growing.
>
> And it's marvelous. Chip has added more SF and light future history
> elements. This has added quite a bit of texture to the novel in that
> it more clearly feels as though we have jumped into the future. The
> relationships and characters are deeper and more complex.
>
> But the best part is that it's pure, brilliant Delany. The more I read
> it, the more I love this book.
>
> I can't wait for it to be finished so everyone can have a chance to
> experience this fantastic novel.
>
> --Kevin
>
> --- In delany-list@ yahoogroups. com, "nivekgnir" <kdring@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Issue 7 of Black Clock magazine contains "In the Valley of the Nest
> > of Spiders", a 16-thousand word novella by Samuel R. Delany. Through
> > the Valley of the Nest of Spiders,due from Bamberger Books in the
summer
> > or fall of 2008, is a more than threefold expansion of that work. The
> > novel follows Eric, a young man just eleven days shy of his
seventeenth
> > birthday.
> >
> > It would not be unreasonable to look at Through the Valley of the Nest
> > of Spiders as a companion piece to Dark Reflections, Delany's most
> > recently published novel. But where that novel centers on themes of
> > loneliness, sexual repression,fear, and the difficult life of the
> > artist, Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders, in sharp contrast,
> > celebrates companionship, love, sexual openness, and freedom. Like
Dark
> > Reflections, Spiders moves through time. However, Dark Reflections
> > starts in the present day and goes back towards Arnold Hawley's
> > teens. Through the Valley of the Nest of Spiders takes a different
> > track, starting in the present day, jumping ahead to the twilight of
> > Eric's life, and then moving back in 20-odd short chapters to the
> > present day once again. Though it does move several decades into the
> > future and off-handedly mentions fictional future events and
> > technologies, I would hesitate to call this a science fiction novel.
> > (Then again, I wouldn't argue against that label, either.)
> >
> > Another major contrast is that where Arnold's background, friends,
> > and experiences provide him with strongly intellectual
surroundings and
> > attitude, Eric's life and surroundings are anything but. Yet I
> > believe it would be a huge mistake to take Arnold's life
> > (intellectual, lonely, and sexually repressed), compare it with
> > Eric's (satisfying, rewarding, yet unsophisticated) , and read it as
> > a rejection of intellectualism by Delany!
> >
> > Towards the end of Dark Reflections, we learn that Arnold Hawley ran
> > away in fear from a situation that would likely have changed the
course
> > of his life. Early in Through the Valley of the Nest of
Spiders,Eric is
> > told a story by Bill Bottom, a neighbor of his. Bill, like Arnold,ran
> > away from a situation that had the potential for great happiness. He
> > concludes by asking Eric to promise that when he is presented with his
> > own choice—and, Bill insists, that moment will come—to choose
> > happiness, no matter how afraid he might be to take that path.
Whatever
> > the genre may be (science fiction, gay porn, mainstream literature?) ,
> > this is a novel of love, relationships, and the consequences— both
> > good and bad—of taking that chance and making the choice to go after
> > what makes you happy.
> >
> > I personally enjoyed this novel very much. Perhaps more so than any of
> > Delany's books since StarsIn My Pocket Like Grains of Sand. It made
> > me happy.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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#3127 From: Erich Schneider <erich@...>
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2008 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
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"nivekgnir" <kdring@...> writes:

> I've dropped that same hint, myself. You are not alone in wanting to
> see that book become a reality.

When I saw him read at Clarion last year, his general attitude seemed
to be "don't hold your breath, I have several other projects I want to
do before I think about doing that one". And after having put it down
for almost 25 years, I can't say I blame him. Still, I'm probably not
alone in having shaken my head ruefully when, in _1984_, I read
letters with things like "I think I'll get _Splendor_ knocked out in
another 6 weeks or so".

--
Erich Schneider  erich@...

#3128 From: "ricbest2001" <RicBest@...>
Date: Wed Jul 9, 2008 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: A new Delany novel is on its way
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I have to agree with Kevin. This book makes me happy too!
I've had a chance to read a couple versions and stand in awe at Chips talents
for bringing his
characters to life.
The smallest moments have such resonance.
Cant wait to read the finished version!
Ric

#3129 From: "nivekgnir" <kdring@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:39 pm
Subject: Delany / Polymath review in Philadelphia City Paper
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Nice article. Covers a lot of ground for being a newspaper piece. The
Polymath will be showing in Philadelphia on July 18. Chip and Fred
Barney Taylor will be in attendance.

Here's the link:
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2008/07/10/lust-for-life

#3130 From: "nivekgnir" <kdring@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: rest in peace, Disch
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/thomas-m-disch-poet-and-writer-of-d\
eathhaunted-science-fiction-who-won-plaudits-for-camp-concentration-863874.html

--- In delany-list@yahoogroups.com, "Eli Bishop" <ibitzkay@...> wrote:
>
>
> Maybe everyone here already knows this, but: Thomas M. Disch died two
> days ago in New York, reportedly suicide.
>
> Along with Delany, Vonnegut, and a handful of others, he wrote things
> that seem to me like some of the greatest treasures of human culture
> in the last hundred years... except I can't really tell, because to me
> they're just like vital organs of my own mind and heart now.
>
> I knew people who knew him, but I never met him -- and, to be honest,
> I would've been a little afraid to meet him given the opportunity,
> because the bitterness of his public persona had reached Kingsley Amis
> proportions. Reading his online journal was often like looking into an
> open wound, which once in a while would divulge a pearl of humor or a
> ridiculously good poem. Being a selfish reader, among all the pain on
> display what bothered me most was that he had never reconciled with
> Chip (over something that, from the little I know about it, was too
> stupid to repeat). Well, either we're all reconciled in the end, or it
> won't matter.
>
> I was going to write something about having just seen The Polymath,
> but I'm too damn sad now.
>
> Eli
>

#3131 From: "d_cozy" <dcozy@...>
Date: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:44 am
Subject: Name Check
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Reading Clarence Major's novel, Bone Structure, I came across this:

The next day they make a movie from his novel and Cora stars in it.
Dale has the male lead.  Cora and Dale are dirt farmers in the South.
  They do everything but fuck.  They steal chickens and read
science-fiction novels by brilliant writers like Chop Belany.  The
white folks get angry and threaten to burn their house down and run
them into the woods.  But Dale and Cora hold their own.  They have a
stack of rocks behind the front door; they will fight till the end.

(And why did no one ever tell me about Clarence Major?  If Bone
Structure is representative of his work, he's a writer to be reckoned
with.)

#3132 From: Ralph Dumain <rdumain@...>
Date: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:56 am
Subject: Re: Name Check
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Clarence Major goes back a long way. I discovered his existence
almost 40 years ago, but I can't remember what I ever read by him.
I'm pretty sure I haven't read any of his novels, but now I'm
starting to feel the itch.  Tell us more about this novel.

At 02:44 AM 7/13/2008, d_cozy wrote:

>Reading Clarence Major's novel, Bone Structure, I came across this:
>
>The next day they make a movie from his novel and Cora stars in it.
>Dale has the male lead. Cora and Dale are dirt farmers in the South.
>They do everything but fuck. They steal chickens and read
>science-fiction novels by brilliant writers like Chop Belany. The
>white folks get angry and threaten to burn their house down and run
>them into the woods. But Dale and Cora hold their own. They have a
>stack of rocks behind the front door; they will fight till the end.
>
>(And why did no one ever tell me about Clarence Major? If Bone
>Structure is representative of his work, he's a writer to be reckoned
>with.)

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