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360 -- Many Evidences for the Book of Mormon
www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/Book_of_Mormon/360_Evidences/

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Skip sequence for 'sefer (Book) MORMON' in Bible Code is 360. Words and
pages 360 in Bible-bases sources provide affirmative commentary on the Book
of Mormon.

TEXT

Dean,

The problem with your argument that you want to be open to the possibility
that the Book of Mormon was a work of inspired fiction, is that it was not
presented that way. Joseph presented it to the world as an authentic record
of an ancient people, delivered to him by the angel Moroni, who placed the
record in the ground, and that he translated it by the gift and power of
God.

Saying now that the book could be a work of fiction, even 'good' fiction, is
like saying Moses made up the part about the burning bush to add color to
the story. It so thoroughly contradicts the entire foundation as to throw
the whole thing in the trash heap.

In addition to witnesses of the Spirit too numerous to count, my Bible Code
and Alphabetics studies on the Book of Mormon have only confirmed its
voracity.
www.greaterthings.com/Bible_Codes/Book_of_Mormon/
Also, I am friends with several individuals who are finding things of
archeological significance to support the Book of Mormon. e.g.
www.ancientamerican.com
I also have friends who claim to have received angelic visitation from Book
of Mormon personages. I myself have felt their presence strongly at times
in my life. The beauty and majesty of the chiasms and parallels I have
found in the text likewise verify their divine origin.
www.greaterthings.com/Parallels/BofM/
Furthermore, the teachings contained in the book are the most profound
evidence of their authenticity. They are not the work of man alone but
evidence the hand of God. Then there are the many Biblical prophecies that
portend the branch of Israel separated from its brothers which serves in the
latter days to restore the entire household from perishing with famine.

After reading your post, I pulled out my New Testament lexicon to look up
word number 360, because that is the skip sequence I found when looking up
"Book Mormon" {"sefer (book) MORMON"} using my Bible Code software. Here is
the definition for word number 360 in Zodhiates' New Testament Lexicon:

"360 ANALUO (from ANA (303), back again or denoting separation, and LUO
(3089), to loose.) The ancient Greeks used the word to indicate loosing the
anchor of a ship in order to sail from a port. In the NT, to return (Luke
13;36); to depart by loosing anchor, as it were, and setting sail to a
better and more blessed world. . ."

Zodhiates lists the following antonym meanings for word 360: "To stay; to
remain; to wait or stay in a place; to hinder."

I would say this is pretty good code confirmation. The whole Book of Mormon
story line embarks with Lehi's launch from Jerusalem to come to the New
World of the Americas as a branch of the house of Israel separated from its
brothers.

The number 360 itself is very interesting, denoting a full circle, or
completeness. It follows 359, which is the number of days in the year on
which Christmas day occurs.

On the first column of page 360 of Gesenius' OT lexicon is the definition
(3318) that means "To go out, to go forth; to lead out, e.g. the people from
Egypt; to promulgate doctrine, Isa. 42:1 'he shall promulgate a law to the
Gentiles'." That is a nearly identical meaning in our context to word 360
in the NT lexicon.

The next word (3319) on page 360 means "to bring something to an end, to
finish" -- the idea of full circle.

The next word means "to set, to take a stand," which resembles word
definition 531 (the number of pages in the Book of Mormon) in the NT
lexicon, "Unchangeable."

Word 531 in the OT lexicon means "strong," another cardinal attribute of God
and those who place their trust in him. Word 360 in the OT lexicon means
"fortitude, strength." Again, a nearly identical meaning.

The next word definition on page 360 of Gesenius' OT lexicon means "to speak
that which is true, certain." (3321) In our context, that certainly
presents a strong endorsement of the words of truth contained in the SEFER
MORMON of skip sequence 360.

The next word (3322), like a previous word on page 360, also means "to make
a stand, to place, to set, to establish."

The final word (3327) on the page is the proper name, Isaac. In our context
this brings to mind the idea of the covenant people of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob, of which the Book of Mormon peoples sprang.

As a tangent note, the word listed before this one means "oil" (3323). What
comes to mind is the oil wealth of the Arab countries who descend from
Isaac's brother, Ishmael. But in our context this also has application,
especially in archeological/geographical terms. Remember my point to you
earlier about how people have been looking for Book of Mormon archeology in
the wrong places, such as Central America, when they should be looking in
North America. I personally believe that some of the key history took place
right here in Utah where the current population centers of Mormons are found
today. And speaking of oil, there is a huge reservoir underneath nearly the
entire girth of the state, untapped, preserved for a time when we will need
it.

The words on and surrounding page 360 of Zodhiates' New Testament lexicon
are particularly interesting. Smack dab in the middle of the page is the
lone definition occupying most of the page: "hell." It is word 1067,
GEENNA. The word before it begins on the very bottom of the previous page,
and is the proper name Gedeon, which means "a hewer." Combined, these two
definitions on page 360 convey the meaning of "a hewer of hell." Consistent
with this, the definition following GEENNA is GETHSEMANE (1068).

The word prior to 1066, GEDEON, is 1065, GE, which is a particle that
conveys the meaning of "greater." I think of "greater things." The Book of
Mormon represents a greater revelation designed to prove, expound, and bring
greater completion to the Bible.

Another application I would like to make here is in the explanation
Zodhiates gives under the entry for GEDEON, or Gideon, as we spell it. He
makes reference to the miracle in which Gideon selects a mere 300 men from
an army of 32,000 and with these men miraculously defeats the occupying
enemy and delivers the children of Israel from bondage. In my book The
Vision of All, I compare this event to the 300 Laminates in prison who
beheld the shekinah glory of God, were filled with the Holy Ghost, and how
through their conversion many thousands were converted and delivered from
the bondage of sin. This event in the Book of Mormon is among the most
remarkable instances of a group baptism by fire, and is made reference to by
the Resurrected Savior when he spoke of the need for all to receive the
baptism of fire and of the Spirit, "like the Lamanites" "who knew it not"
(III Nephi 9:20) -- namely they didn't know WHAT was happening to them, but
the definitely knew SOMETHING had happened, and were never the same after
that, but were steadfast and immovable in keeping the ways of the Lord.

This doctrine is central in the Book of Mormon, and is listed as one of the
primary intents for which the book was written. (See Mormon 7:9,10.) So
this mention of Gideon and its metaphorical comparison to the baptism of
fire of the 300 Lamanites in prison is very fitting, as this is the
foundation upon which we are to build, the rock of Christ who administers
this mighty change of heart -- the way we become "set" or "established" so
that the gates of hell will not prevail against us -- the gate by which we
enter."

Speaking of 'gate,' that is one of the definitions on page 360 of my
Webster's '71 dictionary. Right next to 'gather.'

And as a fitting synonym match to "gather," on page 360 of Strong's
Exhaustive Concordance are the headings, "followed, follower, followeth,
following." Wherefore, what manner of men ought we to be? even as Christ,
our Savior and Exemplar. Another word on the page is "food," calling to
mind the 'bread of life.'

Also on that page, as well as on the facing page, 361, are the antonym
words, "folly and foolish." This ties in tightly as well, both through the
name "Mormon," which has become the nickname of the members of the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who adhere to the Book of Mormon in
addition to the Bible, as well as through the number 801, which is the
telephone area code of Wasatch Front Utah which is the headquarters of the
modern Mormon world.

The words alphabetically surrounding the transliteration of MORMON in Greek
mean "foolish, as salt that has lost its savor" (3471-3474). Word 801 in
the NT lexicon means "foolish." See extensive write-up on this, "Mormons
and Area Code 801 -- Salt Losing Savor?"
www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/AreaCodes/801_Mormons/

In general, these Wasatch Front Mormons have such a rich treasure in the
Book of Mormon, but are failing to live up to the destiny which is theirs
given the greater light and knowledge that has been imparted to them. For
one, instead of following the Lord, the clarion call has become, 'follow the
prophet,' which man is given to the people by the Lord because they refuse
to go directly to the Lord -- even as the children of Israel insisted on
having a king. They call him a prophet, but he doesn't prophesy nor does he
warn of the impending calamities that we face. They are fulfilling the
prophecy in Isaiah 28 that talks about the drunkards of Ephraim in the head
of the fat valleys, overcome of wine (the metaphorical stupor that is
synonymous with spiritual foolishness). Isaiah says point blank that even
the "priest and the prophet err in vision and stumble in judgment."

There would not be prophecies such as in Daniel 7, Revelation 13, D&C 103,
III Nephi 16, 20, 21 of the Lord's people being trodden down, and of the
Beast or Devil making war with the saints and prevailing against them, if
the people of the Lord were truly founded on the rock of Jesus Christ. The
promise of the doctrine of Christ is that the gates of hell will not prevail
against those who are founded on the rock.

On page 360 of the LDS Topical Guide are an interesting combination of
headings.

"Patriotism" is one of the words, for example, which calls to mind the
injunction that is laid upon the people of the Lord to stand for freedom,
like the Founders of this nation, who shed their blood to redeem the land of
its tyrannical hold. What does patriotism mean today to the average Mormon?
It means falling in line with whatever government is in power -- even if
that government is a Satanic exercise of unrighteous dominion -- a fact
which is lost on them because of their stupor in following the prophet who
says they are to fall in line to whatever government is in power.

"Peace" is another heading on the page, which has both gospel and government
ramifications, both for light and for delusion. It is the cry of "peace,
peace," or "all is well in Zion" that lulls the people of God to sleep,
while Satan leads them carefully down to hell.

"Pay, Paid" is another heading, calling to mind several things, including
the free salvation offered by Christ, which the Mormons erroneously think
they have to work for (a doctrine not supported by their Book of Mormon,
which speaks powerfully of the gift of the mighty change of heart through
the baptism of fire, which is an event, not a process as the Mormons teach
it to be). This idea is further emphasized in that another heading on the
page is the name "Paul," whose teachings on the salvation of Christ are
unsurpassed, except perhaps by a few passages in the Book of Mormon.

The heading "Pay, Paid" also has political ramifications, as it is through
the literal buying and selling under the administration of the beast that
the saints sell their souls to the devil. I've never heard the mark of the
beast discussed in a mainstream Mormon setting. Never. But there is an
amazing clause of redemption in this word "paid" as well, in that the
latter-day messianic deliverance on a temporal scale that will be wrought
will be undeserved and miraculous, just like the spiritual deliverance
wrought by Jesus at the first coming of Messiah. "Ye have sold yourselves
for naught, but ye shall be redeemed without money," has both spiritual and
temporal overtones. "For shall the lawful captive be delivered?" Yes, "The
prey of the terrible shall be delivered." But first there will be a broken
heart and contrite spirit episode of three and one half years of hell.

Another heading of note on the page "Pattern." Herein is another great
irony in that it has been the failure of the LDS people to see patterns of
ancient disaster mirrored in themselves that has kept them from learning
from the mistakes of the past. Because they see themselves as somehow set
apart from error, they set themselves up for the ultimate error. They are,
after all, the people of God, aren't they? Well, so were the Jews, and the
Nephites. Just because they have the Book of Mormon, which is indeed an
incredible book, and "the most correct book on the face of the earth," does
not carry over to make them automatically "the most correct people" on the
face of the earth, any more than a Christian's having the Bible ensures
their salvation.

Dean, I think you need to think again (and a good dose of faith wouldn't
hurt either) about the conclusions you are entertaining.

Still, I respect your honesty in wanting consider what you are finding with
an open mind to various possibilities, even if it might go against things
you have come to believe in the past. It is such openness that enables one
to receive greater light and knowledge when it is given. We just have to be
careful that such openness doesn't cause us to loose light we have been
given.

A hole in a bucket is a great things so long as it is in the top.

One final observation I would like to make is regarding what seems to be an
astonishing difficulty to pin down Book of Mormon artifacts.

Bible artifacts are so plentiful that the historicity of the Bible is rarely
called into question. Why didn't God design things so that Book of Mormon
archeology could be equally easy to find and correlate with the recorded
account?

Could it be that along with being a greater revelation, it also requires
greater faith (and digging) on the part of its adherents? I would think
that the answer to that question is resounding in the affirmative.

Keep up the quest, Dean. You have great talents that can be of tremendous
help as we dig deep to uncover the evidences that God will provide to reward
our faith.

Sincerely,

Sterling D. Allan
www.greaterthings.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean J Mansfield" <mansfielddj@...>
To: <sterlingda@...>
Cc: <dabar@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 1:40 AM
Subject: For Adam & Roberta


Shalom Sterling (and Yatzi)!

I received the comments Sterling sent to my Yahoo address from
Adam and Roberta. First of all, let me say that I am not trying
to prove the Book of Mormon is not historical. On the contrary,
I have been working under the thesis that it is historical and
that I would eventually find confirmation of it in the Torah
Code.

There is no exact way, as of yet, to read the Code. All one
can do is observe "where" information shows up in terms of
proximity and see if there is anything to tie it together with
other related information that may also show up. The underlying
assumption is, related information "clusters" together.

Anyway, I am trying to be objective in my search, though I
would like it to be true that the BoM is a true history. I am
aware, however, that some of the greatest LDS scholars and
researchers, who also wanted to prove the BoM is true history,
came up with negative results. To answer Roberta's main
question, who are these "intellectuals," well, probably most of
those who read and make contributions to DIALOGUE would be of
this persuasion. But two of the most prominent would be the
great LDS historian, B.H. Roberts (1857-1933) and the LDS
archaeologist, Thomas Stuart Ferguson. (Ferguson, I believe, has
also passed away).

All his life, Roberts was involved in trying to prove the
Book of Mormon as true. (I believe he was the official Church
Historian for awhile as well as a General Authority.) There was
a book published in 1992, STUDIES OF THE BOOK OF MORMON. This
is Robert's private study of the Book of Mormon, in which he
examined historical sources available to Joseph Smith from which
Smith could have written the Book of Mormon. He came to the con-
clusion that Joseph Smith had the talent and means to write the
book on his own without divine assistance. (I'm sure the book
is available at Amazon. It was published by Signature Books,
ISBN 1-56085-027-2.) Thomas Ferguson spent a great part of his
life doing archaeological research in Central America. At first
he was confident that many of the artifacts discovered in ancient
America were related to Nephite civilization. He wrote several
books on the subject, which the LDS still use today. He was, I
believe, given a large grant by the LDS church to do this research
and to establish an archaeological society devoted to this. In
the end, however, he came to the same conclusion as Roberts, that
the book was the creation of Joseph Smith drawing on other sources.
Ferguson's odyssey is described in Stan Larson's QUEST FOR THE
GOLD PLATES, THOMAS STUART FERGUSON'S ARCHAEOLOGICAL SEARCH FOR
THE BOOK OF MORMON. (Also published by Signature: ISBN
0-9634732-6-3).

I had read Robert's STUDIES OF THE BOOK OF MORMON when it first
came out. I had also been aware of a renewed interest in the
Spalding theory. The latest information on that can be found at
Ted Chandler's <http://www.mormonstudies.com/> in which a
computer analysis of Spalding's style and the Book of Mormon style
of writing is very impressive. There are so many similar expres-
sions and words used peculiar only to Spalding and the BoM, etc.

The two artifacts that I found using the Bible Code cannot be
identified as Nephite. I found these by taking the Gematria for
"Sareed ha-Nephim" (relic of the Nephites) which equals only one
expression in the Torah: "Va-Khapartah" (and thou shalt dig).
The Gematria is 699. I've previously explained this. If I were
to guess what I had found using the Code, I would say they were
19th century relics, not more than a hundred or so years. So,
not being able to identify nor date these relics, the implication
would be "Relic of the Nephites" = "a 19th Century artifact."

Now I find a place in Ezekiel (first 4 chapters) in which
Solomon Spalding's name is concealed in the manner I indicated
my recent e-mail. It could be that it is an encryption about the
Spalding theory of the Book of Mormon. But my first impression
is that it is saying Joseph wrote the BoM using a work by
Spalding. This is based on the way the words show up in proximity
and relative to a specified matrix (185).

The use of transliterated English as well as Hebrew in the
Torah Code is quite natural. It has existed from the beginning
of the discovery of the Code. Since this is an English-speaking
subject, it is not surprising the words would be in a form of
transliterated English. As to the idea of the BoM being a
parable, true, most parables are short, but a parable is more
than an anecdote. It is an illustrative story answering a
question or pointing to a moral lesson. Implicitly it parallels
the situation which calls forth the parable for illustration.
The BoM does exactly that: It is a story that parallels our
time and illustrates a moral and answers a question. It answers
the question concerning the divinity of Christ and points to the
moral that if the people of the land do not worship the God of
the land, i.e., Christ, we will suffer as the Nephite allegory
implies, with divine wrath.

In English literature, the closest thing might be PILGRIM'S
PROGRESS by Bunyan. It is a type of parable or allegory that
begins very similarly to the Book of Mormon. Christian is
warned to flee the City of Destruction. Two companions wish
to follow along, Pliable and Obstinate, who later go back
when they come to the Sough of Despond, etc. There are also
quite a number of early Christian works as well as Anglo-Saxon
religious works that imitate the scriptures for the purpose of
illustrating a moral and answering a question. In fact, the
morality plays of the Middle Ages are of this type.

So I am trying to prepare my mind for the possibility that
the Book of Mormon may be an extended parable or prosaic
morality play in a Bible-like style that was created to fill a
cultural void. The void was the lack of a history for the
new world. I am beginning to think it possible that religions
are just different cultural ways of worshipping God. The
underlying moral beliefs and the belief in a Supreme Being and
Afterlife are common to most faiths throughout the world.

It is flattering to think one is of the chosen people or of
the chosen land. This can also motivate people to strive harder
to live up to greater expectations due to their advantages. But
in truth, one eventually realizes God is no respecter of persons
and the "chosen people" concept is a fading myth, a phase in our
collective religious evolution.

The reason I exist, as the human I am, has to do with the
Book of Mormon. Both my parents are Mormon. They met during
an outing sponsored by the Book of Mormon Club in Sacramento
in the late 1940s. So, the coming together of my parents was
due to the Book of Mormon. The first book I ever read was a
child's 4-volume set of the Book of Mormon story. The first
time, as a child, I got up in front of a large crowd of people
was to tell the Joseph Smith story in Sunday School--a 2&1/2
minute talk. My great-grandfather Mansfield left England and
walked across the plains to Plymouth Utah because of the Book
of Mormon. So, whether it is true history or not, it has had
an impact on my existance and has greatly influenced my life.

Eventually the truth will be known. The fact that the BoM
may be an allegory or parable, a type of morality play rather
than true history, should be faced. By now, some kind of real
evidence, such as we find in Bible lands, should have been found
that ties in with the Nephites. Not one piece of evidence can
be directly linked to anything in the book, nor can one single
geographic location be found that corresonds with the book.
Not only this, but Joseph Smith's claim to translate the Book
of Abraham from Egyptian funery scrolls just does not compute.
Now, my efforts to prove it from the Bible Code are coming up
with another NIL. Boo hoo! It is not a complete NIL, however,
because the Code also suggests to me that it is true as a parable
or allegory, and that Mormonism is also A TRUE religion. It just
is not THE TRUE religion. (The Catholic faith also gets high
marks in the Code, especially the Latin Mass as a form of worship.
It shows up in Malachi, for instance, near "offering in righteous-
ness" and "My name shall be great among the Gentiles.")

I have spun all kinds of theories to try to account for the
discrepancies relating to the Book of Mormon. I have come up
with theories of geography and done archaeological research as
well as reading the book and studying ancient history and Hebrew.
As to the promise that the Holy Ghost would make known the truth,
well, I'm sure that the good one gets from it is true, and thus
the prayer is answered in that sense. But, is it historical?

I have even tried to reconstruct a Nephite Calendar based on
dates in the book and have tried to make Jesus fit into a scheme
showing that he was born 2 AD so that Lehi could have left
Jerusalem 600 years before Christ and in the year 598 BC so that
it could be during the reign of Zedekiah. But the more I have
looked into this issue, the more it appears that Jesus was born
4 BC, which would have required Lehi to have left Jerusalem 6
years before Zedekiah even came to the throne. There are so many
discrepancies, I am fairly "burned out" in trying to make every-
thing fit together. And now the Bible Code lets me down as well.
That is to say, it is not giving me the results I would have
wished for. The truth may go against our vested interests. We
have to learn to accept it wherever we find it, whether it agrees
with our beliefs or not. That is why I ask the question, how
would one deal with it, if one found out the Book of Mormon was
true as a parable or allegory, but not true as history? Perhaps
before one could accept the truth, one has to know how to deal
with it? Dean.

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