> I see. Okay - so maybe I didn't understand what you wanted. I admit
> that the choice of which button does what, is a bit strange - the way
> the code identifies keys has somewhat mystified me since I started on
> Dasher! - but other than that it sounds like almost exactly what I
> thought you were asking for! (Well, apart from that 2 and 4 move
> slightly less as well as mostly up/down. I think I know what to do
> about that tho...). Any further clarification as to what you'd like
> changed would be cool :-), but if it is the mapping of the buttons...

Alright, this is what I'm looking for:

Right: Aim for the farthest right letter/word seen on the screen. Move
quickly to the right. This is "Far 3:00".
Up: Aim for the "1:00" position, around the "unit-circle" distance,
not quite as far as the edge of the block.
Down: Aim for the "5:00" position, same distance.

Left: Aim for 9:00, edge of block. Slightly less backwards than
"right" brought you in. Make a big correction quickly.
Space: Stop.

Additionally: Draw a significant line towards 3:00; draw smaller ones
along the "up" and "down" nav lines.

Valid ways of navigating:
1. Alternate up/down, using those to move forwards, while keeping the
goal alternating from below the line to above the line.
2. Up/down until what you want is on the line, and then right to select it.

Additionally, be able to remap those letters/keys: A/Z for up/down, Q
for "back", W for "forward". (left handed, two finger typing.)

2009/12/7 Michael_google gmail_Gersten <keybounce@...>:
>
> Alright, I changed the number of menu boxes to three.
>
> Compass mode still gives me 5 boxes on the right wall.
> 1, 2, and 4 all do "back-off"
> 3 moves straight right,
> 2 moves slightly left and up
> 4 moves slightly left and down
> 1 moves straight left.
>
> Not exactly usable, unless I don't know how it's intended to be used
> (very possible.)

I see. Okay - so maybe I didn't understand what you wanted. I admit
that the choice of which button does what, is a bit strange - the way
the code identifies keys has somewhat mystified me since I started on
Dasher! - but other than that it sounds like almost exactly what I
thought you were asking for! (Well, apart from that 2 and 4 move
slightly less as well as mostly up/down. I think I know what to do
about that tho...). Any further clarification as to what you'd like
changed would be cool :-), but if it is the mapping of the buttons...

> Alright, how do I get a copy of the current source code, and what does
> it take to compile it? (Is it as simple as "make config; make", or is
> it more than that?)

To get the source code, you'll need to use the "git" version control
system, http://git-scm.com/. An easy-to-install Mac OS X "bundle" is
available at http://code.google.com/p/git-osx-installer/ for MacOSX
10.5 "Leopard"; if you only have MacOSX 10.4 "Tiger", you can get a
slightly older version of git from
http://metastatic.org/source/git-osx.html

Once you've got git working, from the command line:

git clone git://git.gnome.org/dasher <directoryname>

will give you the complete dasher source code in said directory (or in
"dasher" if you don't specify). Platform-specific code is in e.g.
dasher/Src/MacOSX; code common to (almost) all platforms is in
dasher/Src/DasherCore.

To compile, build, and generally work on Dasher, you'll need to use
Apple's Xcode IDE, available from http://developer.apple.com/mac -
you'll need to register, but it is free. In xcode, load
dasher/Src/MacOSX/Dasher.xcodeproj and you should be away. (Again,
this is for OS X. It must in theory also be possible to use an
arbitrary text editor and build using gcc, as on linux, but I've never
tried it and I'd be surprised if the configure/etc. system worked for
os x!)

Hope this helps, let me know if you get stuck and I'll do what I can ;-)

--Alan

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Alan Lawrence <acl33@...> wrote:
> If you've downloaded the "4.10 Beta release" (Dasher-13-05-09.zip), it
> is indeed a port of (most of) 4.10, rather than the version 3.0.2 that
> the About box claims.... ("Dasher" menu / About, attributing the port
> to Doug Dickinson). However - sorry - 'twas me who "produced" that
> release, but mostly I took Doug's 3.0.2 MacOS code, combined it with
> the "core" of Dasher 4.10, and packaged it up. (Plus some work on
> graphics, click mode, ...) So there are quite a few new features in
> Dasher4 which still need Mac parts implementing; e.g. Control Mode,
> anything other than direct entry into an app. That the window doesn't
> resize properly I'm not surprised: I can't get it to resize at all!
>
> Another missing feature (not just from MacOS, tho, I don't think?!) is
> the ability to customize the buttons, but if you're able to use the
> number keys 1, 2, 3, 4: the mode you're looking for is called "Compass
> Mode" (or almost - the up/down buttons also back off slightly).
>
> FWIW, if you edit <your home
> directory>/Library/Preferences/uk.ac.cam.phy.inference.dasher.plist
> (using Property List Editor - but just double-click on it and OS X
> should find the appropriate app), there are lots of settings in there
> that don't have GUI equivalents; I can't describe/explain them all,
> but if you change "ButtonMenuBoxes" from 4 down to 3, that'll change
> the number of boxes in both menu mode and also direct mode (at which
> point you should then be able to access all the boxes using keys 1-4).
>
> Sorry about the large number of features missing, if anybody would
> like to do more work on the Mac port they'd be very welcome ;-).
>
> Hope this is of some help,
>
> Alan

Alright, I changed the number of menu boxes to three.

Compass mode still gives me 5 boxes on the right wall.
1, 2, and 4 all do "back-off"
3 moves straight right,
2 moves slightly left and up
4 moves slightly left and down
1 moves straight left.

Not exactly usable, unless I don't know how it's intended to be used
(very possible.)

Arrows: Up and down move left a little, and up or down.
Left moves right; right does nothing.

Testing now:This is an attempt to use Dasher in the compass mode. It
is very slow as I cannot move forward while making a correction or
aiming change, and it is very slow, even when I see where I'm going .

Now how did a space get in before the period there? Yea, that mode
needs some work.

Alright, how do I get a copy of the current source code, and what does
it take to compile it? (Is it as simple as "make config; make", or is
it more than that?)

Unfortunately, nothing came through, and the archive at yahoo didn't
show anything else either -- it says that attachments are not
archived.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Patrick Welche <prlw1@...> wrote:
>
>
> For the benefit of the archive...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

For the benefit of the archive...


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Are there any new activities with respect to VIDasher (Dahser for visual
impaired poeple)?
Regards
Julius

If you've downloaded the "4.10 Beta release" (Dasher-13-05-09.zip), it
is indeed a port of (most of) 4.10, rather than the version 3.0.2 that
the About box claims.... ("Dasher" menu / About, attributing the port
to Doug Dickinson). However - sorry - 'twas me who "produced" that
release, but mostly I took Doug's 3.0.2 MacOS code, combined it with
the "core" of Dasher 4.10, and packaged it up. (Plus some work on
graphics, click mode, ...) So there are quite a few new features in
Dasher4 which still need Mac parts implementing; e.g. Control Mode,
anything other than direct entry into an app. That the window doesn't
resize properly I'm not surprised: I can't get it to resize at all!

Another missing feature (not just from MacOS, tho, I don't think?!) is
the ability to customize the buttons, but if you're able to use the
number keys 1, 2, 3, 4: the mode you're looking for is called "Compass
Mode" (or almost - the up/down buttons also back off slightly).

FWIW, if you edit <your home
directory>/Library/Preferences/uk.ac.cam.phy.inference.dasher.plist
(using Property List Editor - but just double-click on it and OS X
should find the appropriate app), there are lots of settings in there
that don't have GUI equivalents; I can't describe/explain them all,
but if you change "ButtonMenuBoxes" from 4 down to 3, that'll change
the number of boxes in both menu mode and also direct mode (at which
point you should then be able to access all the boxes using keys 1-4).

Sorry about the large number of features missing, if anybody would
like to do more work on the Mac port they'd be very welcome ;-).

Hope this is of some help,

Alan




2009/12/3 Michael_google gmail_Gersten <keybounce@...>
>
>
>
> I'm trying to use Dasher on Mac OsX. I've tossed a 170K file of
> personal typing (including punctuation, etc) at it, and enabled full
> punctuation mode; it's working relatively ok at that point.
>
> But it's version 3.0.2. (Just downloaded it a few days ago). That's out of
date.
>
> There are a number of problem with this version. The window display is
> messed up when resized. Several of the other input options don't seem
> to work well, or at all.
>
> How do I update this? Is there anything newer available?
>
> In particular, one input system that I'd like to see would be three
> boxes (menu mode has four) for up, down, and right, so that three keys
> would permit full entry (a fourth for backing up). Is that doable?
>
>

Hello Everyone,

I have Ubuntu 9.04 with Dasher 4.9.0, which is the version that installs
by default with it.

It works wonderfully while Ubuntu is entirely in English, but as soon as I
switch to the Brazilian Portuguese interface, Dasher stops working.

This is all on a clean install:

* Clean Ubuntu 9.04 install;
* Install restricted extras (includes codeqs for MP3 etc);
* Install java;
* Install language-support-pt and switch interface in Gnome;
* Install Dasher using Synaptik package manager.

I tried doing the above in a different order, many different orders
actually, but the result is always the same.

As soon as I switch Ubuntu back to English Dasher works perfectly again.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Flavia

I'm trying to use Dasher on Mac OsX. I've tossed a 170K file of
personal typing (including punctuation, etc) at it, and enabled full
punctuation mode; it's working relatively ok at that point.

But it's version 3.0.2. (Just downloaded it a few days ago). That's out of date.

There are a number of problem with this version. The window display is
messed up when resized. Several of the other input options don't seem
to work well, or at all.

How do I update this? Is there anything newer available?

In particular, one input system that I'd like to see would be three
boxes (menu mode has four) for up, down, and right, so that three keys
would permit full entry (a fourth for backing up). Is that doable?

Well, I'm generally in agreement with those who've said this isn't really
what Dasher's PPM is designed to do - but AFAIC you're welcome to try...!!
:)

I can answer two specific questions:

> I believe that it should be possible to get this information from Dasher
> (by traversing the letter probabilities) but does anyone have ideas about
> whether this would be computationally feasible?
>
May depend on what you're looking for: if you're looking for "most likely
words", you'd have to keep looking almost-arbitrarily further ahead until
you got to a space, but as long as each prediction were based only on the
past 5 characters (or whatever - see below), I don't see why that couldn't
be done in a computationally feasible way, put it that way ;-). (Indeed,
Dasher often does look ahead entire words when they are considered highly
likely!).

> Also, I read that Dasher computes conditional probabilities for 6
> characters. Before I dive into the code, how difficult would it be to
> consider longer segments?
>
In terms of the code, trivial - it may be a couple of places or just one,
but basically it'd just be a matter of changing a constant.

In terms of computational workload, I'm not sure - I do know we tried
reducing from 5 to 4 to speed up training, but didn't find this made much
difference (Training != general use, however!). In terms of *memory*
footprint, tho, the impact _may_ be more substantial...(or it may not!)

HOWEVER, bear in mind that the 5-character context length was selected
because it gave the best compression results with the current algorithm, at
least for the amount of training text we've been giving it.

HTH,
Alan


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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:17:26PM -0000, pherthyl wrote:
> --- In dasher-text-entry@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Gooding <skavookie@...>
wrote:
> >
> > I could imagine a mode by which Dasher would predict up to a word and
> > then stop. That would allow savings on short words to make up for
> > longer words. But is Dasher available with an LGPL license?
> >
>
> Dasher is GPL.  Until we decide to release the Dynamic Keyboard as open source
we can't integrate it directly.  My plan was to create a "word prediction
server" that would be open source and provide word prediction over a local
socket or shared memory.  Then the Dynamic Keyboard would just query the server
for predictions.


I believe the Gnome folk are thinking of writing a word prediction dbus
service. (Dasher does PPM at the character level)

Cheers,

Patrick

--- In dasher-text-entry@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Gooding <skavookie@...> wrote:
>
> I could imagine a mode by which Dasher would predict up to a word and
> then stop. That would allow savings on short words to make up for
> longer words. But is Dasher available with an LGPL license?
>

Dasher is GPL.  Until we decide to release the Dynamic Keyboard as open source
we can't integrate it directly.  My plan was to create a "word prediction
server" that would be open source and provide word prediction over a local
socket or shared memory.  Then the Dynamic Keyboard would just query the server
for predictions.

The other option is using the COM interface as mentioned by Lenny.

Leo

I could imagine a mode by which Dasher would predict up to a word and
then stop. That would allow savings on short words to make up for
longer words. But is Dasher available with an LGPL license?

Hi All,

I work for a company called CanAssist, and one of our free software packages is 
the Dynamic Keyboard (an on-screen reduced key keyboard).
We've implemented our own statistical word prediction engine in the released
version, but it has some limitations (English only, difficult to train on new
text).

So one of the options I am considering is to use Dasher's engine as the word
predictor instead of our own.   The Dynamic Keyboard requires character level
probabilities, so that part of Dasher would fit right in.  However it also
requires word-level predictions to show in its word completion box.  I believe
that it should be possible to get this information from Dasher (by traversing
the letter probabilities) but does anyone have ideas about whether this would be
computationally feasible?
Also, I read that Dasher computes conditional probabilities for 6 characters. 
Before I dive into the code, how difficult would it be to consider longer
segments?

Thanks for any info,
Leo



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Dear Friends,
                     We are announcing the release of alpha-0.1 version of
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GNOME desktop.Anumaan is an extension of an Input Method (IM) mechanism (on
GNOME desktop) in the sense that it extends its (IM) notion by including the
power of text prediction. It has support for UTF-8 unicode encoding. Anumaan
is inspired from Dasher itself.

Please do refer to my blog post for more details at
http://moebiuscurve.livejournal.com/26656.html.
*
Anumaan URLs:*

Anumaan Main Page on CDAC Mumbai Website:
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AnumaanLinux source download:
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z(released
under GNU/GPL 3.0 License)

AnumaanLinux Documentation can be accessed at:
http://www.cdacmumbai.in/projects/anumaan/docs/AnumaanLinuxUserManual/index.html

Anumaan-standalone download:
http://www.cdacmumbai.in/projects/anumaan/downloads/Anumaan-standalone-alpha-0.1\
.tar.gz

Anumaan-standalone Documentation can be accessed at:
http://www.cdacmumbai.in/projects/anumaan/docs/AnumaanStandaloneUserManual/index\
.html

Anumaan Default Language Model download:
http://www.cdacmumbai.in/projects/anumaan/downloads/AnumaanDefaultLM.tar.gz

*Anumaan demo Videos:*

A session of AnumaanLinux: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSzLt9ZVnOY

A session of Anumaan-standalone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah9w37JY7ec



NB: The Application is still evolving, hence please do give us your
feedbacks, bug reports or feature enhancement requests.

Please mail us at mailto:predictanumaan@...

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Hi, I just want to let you know that a new open source gaze tracker is
available. It can be downloaded at http://www.gazegroup.org/. As far as I know
is this the only eye-tracking system for Windows that is currently available.
Julius

Hello,

I often need to write Russian words with the emphasis shown.  So far I've done
this by placing an apostrophe right after the letter.  The problem with this is
that it screws up the predictive model and slows me down quite a bit every time
I want to add an emphasis.  Is there a better way of going about this?  Is there
a way to define a symbol that takes on the identity of the symbol before it for
the sake of the predictive model (so that the probabilities of each of the
letters inside that symbol's box is the same as the previous box)?

Thanks in advance.

Hello,

I write in both Russian and English and find myself often switching between the
two when writing.  It would be great if there were a section (similar to the
sections for upper case letters, punctuation, etc.) in which you could enter a
certain box to switch to another language.

This box could contain only languages that are indicated by the user in the
preferences, or it could contain all the languages and make the more commonly
used languages have bigger boxes.  This way one would be able to switch between
languages without interrupting the workflow.  At the moment, one has to stop
writing in Dasher in order to use a traditional mouse to select a language from
the drop-down menu.

By the way, I say "traditional mouse" because my setup is a little unusual.  I
use a SmartNav camera which is placed on the ground facing up, and I control the
cursor either with hand movements or by moving my whole body around (somewhat
similar to the motion required to keep a hula hoop going).

What do you guys think?  Has this been suggested before?

Tony

On previous versions, under the othptions header, you were able to have Dasher
type into a new window eg: email, internet, etc. With this yeversion - Stable
Release (4.10.1)- JI don't know how to have it do that! Help!

Beth

Hi All,

This is to announce that Dasher is now available on the iPhone (OS 3
required): just visit
itms://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=315473092&mt=8\
&s=143441
in your browser and it should load up in iTunes. (At least, it does
under Safari on Mac - with Firefox, or using iTunes on Windows, I
don't know, but I guess you can always search the app store
directly!).

Enjoy! :-).

--Alan

Saw this article, group of German researchers making it harder to make typo's by
increasing key pressure for keys with low probability of being the key you want
to press.
As a language model they seem to use a very simple dictionary. Still, an
interesting way to use input prediction to improve user input.

See http://hci.rwth-aachen.de/typeright

Regards,
Martijn

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20Touch>



         Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:37 am (PDT)

>
> Still going :-!. Just had a massive struggle to get copy/paste working
> on OS 3 without bringing up the *@!^ing On-Screen-Keyboard, but think
> I got it now. Just need a bunch of icons and a few other touches, and
> a few rounds of general debugging, and should be ready to submit it to
> Apple...
>


There's http://ibetatest.com if you want to get the app out there for
testing while you wait for the apple approval process - it's quite a
good service, and may help iron some bugs before widespread release.

Cheers,
Pete

So I got a Mac (yay!), and was wondering how to build dasher from source on
MacOS. I see I can download a binary for Mac, but that has only limited
functionality. I also see in the ChangeLog a reference to an xcode project,
but I can not seem to find it.


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Still going :-!. Just had a massive struggle to get copy/paste working
on OS 3 without bringing up the *@!^ing On-Screen-Keyboard, but think
I got it now. Just need a bunch of icons and a few other touches, and
a few rounds of general debugging, and should be ready to submit it to
Apple...

The load time is a killer, though :-(, and I don't think this is going
to be easy to fix - most likely, will require changing the whole way
the language model is stored, so as to avoid training it on the whole
corpus on every startup...

--Alan

2009/7/13 Stephen Emslie <stephenemslie@...>:
>
>
> Just bumping this topic. Anyone made any progress porting dasher to the
> iPhone?
>
> Stephen Emslie
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Alan Lawrence<acl33@...>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2009/4/15 Alan Lawrence <acl33@...>:
>>
>>> Secondly, atm there's nothing you can do
>>> with the text - it just puts it in a scrolling label at the bottom of
>>> the screen - and I'd like to have a button for "send email", yes.
>>> (Haven't investigated how to do this yet, if anyone knows then please
>>> tell me! :-).
>>
>> Ah, no need, found it - apparently you just open a "mailto" URL, and
>> the system does the rest....
>>
>> --Alan
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Hello André,

Thanks for your response.

> "One Dimensional Mode" can work with the left mouse button.
>
> "One Button Dynamic Mode" is a complete mystery to me.
>
Yes, I was refering to One Button Dynamic Mode.
It works currently with Keyboard key (Key numeral '2') only.
Alan from Dasher team confirmed that and informed me that he might
soon come out with a release that worked with mouse.

> The above is for the Windows version of Dasher 4.10.1.
>
> But, if "normal mode works perfectly", like you wrote, why not use it?

I mentioned, Normal Mode works perfectly with the mouse (the device),
I would be able to operate (thought I don't need to), but I am  trying
device this for a friend who is suffering from Cerebral Palsy.

He has many limitations. Like clutched hands with only two fingers
movable. I am trying a one button dynamic mode so that it could be
helpful to him.

> On Windows, depending on your needs, you can use a software called AutoHotkey
> to customize how the computer works.  Let me know if you need any help with
> this.

This is news. I shall try this one for sure.

Thank you,
Senthil


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him than he deserves.
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Just bumping this topic. Anyone made any progress porting dasher to the iPhone?

Stephen Emslie

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Alan Lawrence<acl33@...> wrote:
>
>
> 2009/4/15 Alan Lawrence <acl33@...>:
>
>> Secondly, atm there's nothing you can do
>> with the text - it just puts it in a scrolling label at the bottom of
>> the screen - and I'd like to have a button for "send email", yes.
>> (Haven't investigated how to do this yet, if anyone knows then please
>> tell me! :-).
>
> Ah, no need, found it - apparently you just open a "mailto" URL, and
> the system does the rest....
>
> --Alan
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I am trying dasher for my friend who is suffering from Cerebral Palsy.
He can control his fingers so, I decided to try with one button mode
of dasher.

The equipment we have as is:
1) Laptop (Both Linux and Windows)
2) A very small wireless mouse. ( I got it recently in order for him
to hold).
3) Dasher latest version 4.x

Our problem is:
the One Dimension mouse input works with keyboard key (2) but not with
the wireless mouse. The normal mode works perfectly with wireless
mouse.

I can operate the keyboard, but my friend wont be able to operate the
keyboard due to his condition.

What can we do to make the Dasher One Dimentional Dynamic mode to work
with wireless mouse?

TIA,

--
Senthil
Ambidextrous, adj.:
	 Able to pick with equal skill a right-hand pocket or a left.
		 -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

I have just started to work with the Dasher source and am not very
proficient at C/C++ but in the attached diff I have managed to fix a
couple of problems.  One is that Dasher did not load files from the
command line.  The other is that each time you save a file it would
pay no attention to the file name you had given it last time.

In each of these fixes I introduced a warning something like this:
(dasher:8281): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous
GError or uninitialized memory.
This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is
NULL before it's set.
The overwriting error message was: Operation not supported

I have no idea what this is about.

I have also included a start to a training text for LaTeX.

BTW, I work with Dasher on a Ubuntu system using a Logitec trackball
with my left hand, as my right hand is paralyzed and I need the
predictive text support because the part of my brain responsible for
spelling is damaged (brain tumors sure are an experience!).  So I am
quite pleased to have found Dasher.  I wonder what I might take on
next and would appreciate some guidance through the source.  I was
also thinking about writing a Cons script for Dasher but I get the
feeling that would involve a huge amount of relatively unappreciated
work.

Joshua Gooding

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I've been having an insane amount of trouble resizing Dasher to fit only part of
the screen. Maximizing is no problem, but restoring the window down and trying
to resize it is hell. You have to try to "catch" the edges/corners and they will
not move. Occaisonally they will move ever so slightly in the direction you drag
them, but this is very rare. The window is near-impossible to resize. I am not
lacking in dexterity with the mouse; this seems to be a bug with versions 4.6.2
and 4.10.0. Has anyone had a similar experience or been able to solve this
issue?

Thanks.

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