The author of the best history of money in print is dead. Buy his book anyway. :-). Cheers, RAH ... From: "Duncan Goldie-Scot" <dgs@...> To: "R. A....
R. A. Hettinga
rah@...
Feb 2, 2003 6:42 pm
45748
Rambo on Beacon Street: An Internet Message Clearing Corporation as an Economic Solution to Spam The Geodesic Economy Robert A. Hettinga Philodox.com January...
R. A. Hettinga
rah@...
Feb 4, 2003 1:16 am
45749
... http://fff49857548.com/mwc19/ ... and put him/her in jail for a few years/decades/lifetimes for mail fraud and RICO violations. I haven't checked the link...
Warren E. Agin
wea@...
Feb 4, 2003 1:51 pm
45750
[Sorry if this is a duplicate - It does not appear that it showed up.] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= CALL FOR PAPERS =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TPRC...
Robert Cannon
rcannon101@...
Feb 4, 2003 3:22 pm
45751
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know, off the top of their head, of any good secondary sources, articles, books whatever, discussing the whole pruneyardish free ...
Paul Gowder
paul@...
Feb 4, 2003 6:49 pm
45752
... Well, that's part of why I was asking. I thought RAH made clear that non-members would be sent bills. That implies some price. The in-group would set...
Chris Savage
chris.savage@...
Feb 4, 2003 6:53 pm
45753
Chris, regarding your high end summary, only Hettinga and his hairdresser know for sure. But of your eight numbered points, I did *not* see numbers 1, 2, or...
Daniel J. Boone
djb@...
Feb 4, 2003 6:55 pm
45754
... incoming ... in ... Interesting to see Hettinga's response to this. His original screed hints at the idea that ISPs (or at least the Well guy who's been ...
Daniel J. Boone
djb@...
Feb 4, 2003 6:58 pm
45755
... Is the following extra-high-level summary correct? If not, please correct it; I have some thoughts for you to consider that may just be misunderstandings....
Chris Savage
chris.savage@...
Feb 4, 2003 7:17 pm
45756
... I think a better approach to this is to make the servers literally unavailable to parties who haven't (in an old-fashioned pen-on-paper and paying a damage...
Greg Broiles
gbroiles@...
Feb 4, 2003 7:39 pm
45757
As far as the really bad spam goes, this scheme just won't work for the same reasons that black hole lists just don't work. Ends up targeting the wrong people....
Warren E. Agin
wea@...
Feb 4, 2003 7:50 pm
45758
This may be a bit off topic, but I am wondering what you would all think of having the postal service provide an official email service. Ginny Metze ... ...
Virginia Metze
vmetze@...
Feb 4, 2003 8:00 pm
45759
They have been there, done that. -Warren Agin ... From: "Virginia Metze" <vmetze@...> To: <CYBERIA-L@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 04,...
Warren E. Agin
wea@...
Feb 4, 2003 8:02 pm
45760
See the following from 1995: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~atman/Crypto/misc/usps-plans.html Or this from 2000: ...
Warren E. Agin
wea@...
Feb 4, 2003 8:06 pm
45761
Thank you! I will catch up on this. Ginny ... ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see...
Virginia Metze
vmetze@...
Feb 4, 2003 8:09 pm
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... <snip> ... Well, I'm taking the same view of what he thinks. Suppose I have a piece of property that lies between a school and a park. In the normal...
... What if you modified it. I'm thinking of some kind of entirely voluntary email protocol that automatically transferred .02 from the sender to the receiver....
John Noble
jnoble@...
Feb 4, 2003 9:05 pm
45765
... Antitrust. How much resources are expended to break monopolies? And yet repeatedly I am amazed how people repeatedly come up with the idea that setting...
Robert Cannon
rcannon101@...
Feb 4, 2003 9:12 pm
45766
These are all great points, and I am not enthusiastic about having government run email, given the present HomeLand Security hysteria. But, the reasons I have...
Virginia Metze
vmetze@...
Feb 4, 2003 10:16 pm
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Re: the "registered email" concept -- Many moons ago the Postal Service was geared up to offer something called an electronic postmark. Really nothing more...
Stephen T. Middlebrook
Stephen.Middlebrook@...
Feb 4, 2003 10:51 pm
45768
What puzzles me, in re USPS running e-mail, is a philosophical matter of very great generality: 1. If a thing can be done profitably, then private industry...
Randy Winn
randyw@...
Feb 4, 2003 11:07 pm
45769
Yes, I am sure that they would want to charge a fee... and the things discussed so far don't sound too great... But the way that email is moving now is...
Virginia Metze
vmetze@...
Feb 4, 2003 11:11 pm
45770
... Spam-free email is quite clearly not unprofitable to the people who provide it. It's only unprofitable to spammers. I think the crux of the postal mail...
Stephen T. Middlebrook
Stephen.Middlebrook@...
Feb 4, 2003 11:22 pm
45771
... Email isn't free. you may not be paying by the piece, but someone is paying for your email to move around and someone is paying to allow you to access it....
Stephen T. Middlebrook
Stephen.Middlebrook@...
Feb 4, 2003 11:23 pm
45772
The USPS sends me a lot of paper spam (a.k.a. junk mail) every day and even encourages the practice with special bulk rates. Why would the USPS be any...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Feb 5, 2003 12:18 am
45773
Thanks. Food for thought. I like the idea of some minimal universal service that doesn't replicate/compete with value-added commercial services, in sort of the...
Randy Winn
randyw@...
Feb 5, 2003 12:29 am
45774
... Not to nit a point, but not everybody gets their mail delivered to their house anymore. In more and more places (such as my town) they are trying to use...
Stephen Satchell
list@...
Feb 5, 2003 12:35 am
45775
Ginny said, "I despise anti-spam vigilantes more than I despise spam. " Amen Also, if you think there is a question of privacy online now, just let Uncle Sam...
Robert Helmer
roberthelmer@...
Feb 5, 2003 12:36 am
45776
Glad you brought this up... those of us in rural areas have not gotten delivery to our homes for many years. There seem to be more and more cases where they...