It seems to me that efforts to "date" the Gospel of Thomas by citing its gnosticizing proclivities, its non-conformity with emerging Xtn theological ...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 3, 2002 12:56 pm
Bill, Howdy, back! ... A few comments. First, I do think Paul uses metaphorical dualities and maybe in places falls into a sort of "run of the mill" dualism...
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David Friedman
david_friedm...
May 3, 2002 1:25 pm
Dear Brian, I am curious. I can understand your thinking that the Gospel of Thomas is dependent on the Synoptics. There is a lot of similar material. But...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 3, 2002 1:47 pm
- ... Bill, I did indeed find this book on Amazon. The author was some man from the frozen north and I'll have to see just how much "thaw" is in this book. I...
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William Arnal
warnalca
May 3, 2002 2:11 pm
... I AM inclined to dismiss Acts, but even so, it's still clear that Paul viewed Christianity as fairly widespread and as problematic prior to his ...
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Rikk E. Watts
rikkwatts
May 3, 2002 2:12 pm
... I think one needs to be careful here, "Gnosticism" itself being a scholarly construct and something of multifaceted phenomenon. I suspect what Brian ...
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William Arnal
warnalca
May 3, 2002 2:54 pm
... The question is, which of these aspects is BASIC? Thomas also uses bits and pieces from various places (whether one explain this in terms of intellectual...
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Rick Hubbard
rickhubbardus
May 3, 2002 3:04 pm
[Rikk E. Watts wrote:] hence the existence of a pre-Christian Gnosticism, being disputed. (I'm not sure the ad hominem "Sunday School Scholarship" sheds any...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 3, 2002 3:50 pm
... One of the most interesting analogies I can think of is Aseneth 15, where Aseneth -- at the point of her conversion from her Egyptian idols to the worship...
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Jacob Knee
jsamk2002
May 3, 2002 4:34 pm
At first glance there does seem to be a North American/European divide on what exactly is the consensus on the dating of Thomas and the traditions within it....
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bjtraff
May 3, 2002 5:51 pm
As time is limited, and I am headed off for an extended long weekend, and will not return until Monday evening, this will be my last post. I do intend to...
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sdavies0
May 3, 2002 7:09 pm
... Paul ... to his ... churches ... Yeah. Galatians one 20I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie. 21Later I went to Syria and Cilicia....
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 3, 2002 7:49 pm
... The context of Acts 8:1-3 *suggests* Judea, but not specifically, and since its Acts, you would have a hard time with it. Gal. 1:13 likewise is not...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 3, 2002 7:49 pm
... The time frame is ca. 33 C.E. to maybe 50 C.E., when the first of Paul's extant letters was written. For that time period, we have only Acts 1-17 to go on....
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LAlbert
albertlh
May 3, 2002 8:48 pm
... From: Bob Schacht To: crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [XTalk] Re: Paul's Gnosticism (and Jesus?) At 09:11 AM...
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Frank McCoy
silvanus55109
May 4, 2002 1:51 pm
... wrote: You think the beloved disciple is meant to be a brother of Jesus? I would regard that as about the last thing John would want readers to think. Dear...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 4, 2002 3:08 pm
Hi Bill, Okay... let's have another go at this;)! So, I do think that early >Thomas is ... Thomas also uses bits and ... So as to not get too far off...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 4, 2002 3:29 pm
Frank, How about the BD being Jesus' brother Judas (Thomas)? In playing with the nicknaming associations some years ago I tried to figure out "best guesses" ...
9920
mwgrondin
May 4, 2002 6:02 pm
... How do you explain the anti-Thomas passage in chapter 20? Mike...
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Frank McCoy
silvanus55109
May 4, 2002 6:15 pm
... wrote: You think the beloved disciple is meant to be a brother of Jesus? I would regard that as about the last thing John would want readers to think. Dear...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 4, 2002 6:52 pm
... Hi Mike, Several things... First I noted early connection to "storied" trajectories. Interestingly G.Th. will associate both brothers with this work. As...
9923
sdavies0
May 4, 2002 8:13 pm
... Well, I think Frank has made a darn good argument. [It must be the zeitgeist because I mentioned a bit of it in message 9733, with the caveat that we might...
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Richard Taliaferro
dickt1955
May 4, 2002 9:44 pm
Gordon: Saturday, May 4, 2002 It is interesting that in response to Bill Arnal's post you refer to the book Jesus and the Village Scribes. I say this because...
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William Arnal
warnalca
May 4, 2002 10:40 pm
... Not at all -- he time frame is much narrower. The point isn't so much the gap between the time when Jesus died, and when our first sources were written (on...
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William Arnal
warnalca
May 4, 2002 11:19 pm
... That's what I thought! But it was a genuine question -- I was wondering if I'd missed some text that made the Judean locale of Paul's activities explicit....
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 4, 2002 11:53 pm
... Hi Dick, You will note that Bill teased about this book and I had forgotten about it. I saw it last year at SBL, but already had enough to read. But with...
9928
Frank McCoy
silvanus55109
May 4, 2002 11:59 pm
... wrote: You think the beloved disciple is meant to be a brother of Jesus? I would regard that as about the last thing John would want readers to think. Dear...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 5, 2002 12:18 am
Hi Bill, Just got a note from Amazon saying that your book and Stephen Hawking's are in the mail! I'm sure it will "explain all things;)!", but I just want to...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 5, 2002 6:23 am
... OK, formulated this way, the question is what kind of "Christianity" (an anachronistic term at this point) was Saul persecuting before he became Paul,...
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Frans-Joris Fabri
fransjoris2
May 5, 2002 11:54 am
Bill Arnal wrote: [snipped] ... and ... the ... particular ... Bill, I hesitate to ask, as it may seem to side-step off this thread. On the other hand your...
