... itself ... a ... Mark Cameron said little about the Testimonium in the "Jesus in Josephus" thread (June 5-9). I don't recall that Stephen Carlson...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Oct 1, 2000 3:23 pm
... No, I believe he's referring to Robert M. Price. His bio is found at http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/robert_price/price-bio.html Stephen Carlson --...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Oct 1, 2000 4:20 pm
... From: "Ken Olson" <kaolson@...> To: <crosstalk2@egroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [XTalk] Re: Josephus ... for ...
5135
Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 1, 2000 4:40 pm
Well gang, it's that time of year again when the annual Society of Biblical Literature meeting is just round the corner and I begin to arrange the now...
5136
David C. Hindley
dhindley@...
Oct 1, 2000 5:25 pm
... case for "strong Josephan fingerprints" in the Testimonium. Perhaps someone will.<< Are there not differences in opinion as to what should be considered ...
5137
Antonio Jerez
antonio.jerez@...
Oct 1, 2000 5:53 pm
... I am a bit intrigued by this message. Is Mr. Watts trying to argue that there is not any midrashisation of the Jesus figure in the gospels? Is there not...
5138
Nathan McGovern
nm_mcgovern@...
Oct 1, 2000 6:21 pm
... If this is the correct reconstruction, wouldn't the phrase, "ho christos houtos ên" have to be replaced with a different phrase that includes "christos";...
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David C. Hindley
dhindley@...
Oct 1, 2000 8:14 pm
... removed are in its language, style and vocabulary. The best distillation of the many publications on this I have ever seen is in Meier's "A Marginal Jew"...
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David C. Hindley
dhindley@...
Oct 1, 2000 9:44 pm
Nathan McGovern said: DH >>>(3)[63] Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, [if it be lawful to call him a man;] for he was a doer of wonderful works,...
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Steve Allison
dermarc@...
Oct 2, 2000 1:33 am
... Thought this was interesting. Quite by accident I came across something in Columbia professor Andrew Delbanco's "Required Reading: Why Our American ...
5142
albertlh@...
Oct 2, 2000 5:15 pm
Responding to Sam Gibson's contention that evidence for the HJ "is there in spades" in contemporary writings (message 5107), I requested, in effect, a...
5143
Jim West
jwest@...
Oct 2, 2000 5:25 pm
... please give us 5 proofs of your existence, if you dont mind. thanks, jim ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ memento o homo! quod cinis es et in cinerem...
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Leon Albert
albertlh@...
Oct 2, 2000 6:05 pm
Jim, Taking cognicence of the warning not to treat this forum as a chat room, I will presume that your request that I provide 5 proofs of my own existence...
5145
Jim West
jwest@...
Oct 2, 2000 6:31 pm
... yup. you are correct. ... nope-- you have to answer the question posed you before you get to ask one. your not socrates and im not plato. ... no i havent....
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Rikki E. Watts
rwatts@...
Oct 2, 2000 7:07 pm
Antonio, What are we to do with you? You're up to your old tricks again, :-). You offer an inaccurate generalization, and when called to account, you respond...
5147
Rikki E. Watts
rwatts@...
Oct 2, 2000 7:07 pm
Hyeon Woo Shin, Perhaps this is what Lonergan is trying to solve with his critical-realist epistemology and its three steps of experience, understanding, and ...
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Leon Albert
albertlh@...
Oct 3, 2000 12:42 am
OK, Jim, let's play, A. I started off questioning the existence of any relatively solid evidence for the existence of the historical Jesus, and asked for a...
5149
Richard Anderson
randerson58@...
Oct 3, 2000 12:54 am
Leon: My mother in law was born on a farm and did not have a birth certificate. At age 55 at a pre-retirement planning session, she was told she would need a...
5150
Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:02 am
... [much snipped] Oh, let's not. That is to say, the tone of this exchange has turned decidedly sour. So unless some civility can be injected into it, I must...
5151
Jim West
jwest@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:04 am
... what you demand of others is only rightly demanded of you. ... which you still havent provided. ... nope-- you cant ask until you answer. that answer...
5152
Leon Albert
albertlh@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:09 am
Richard: Good point. I'm reminded of that famous scene in "A Miracle on 52th Street," where the existence of Santa was proved in court when the post office...
5153
Leon Albert
albertlh@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:12 am
Jeffrey: Ok, sorry Leon...
5154
Sam Gibson
cygnus@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:36 am
This is so much fun. I was going to shave with a cheese grater but this is a little bit more entertaining. With respect to the group, I will attempt to tread...
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Robert M. Schacht
r_schacht@...
Oct 3, 2000 4:28 am
At 12:06 PM 10/02/00 , Rikki E. Watts wrote: ".... The Lonergan project is essentially what Ben Meyer and NT Wright are trying to apply to HJ studies: take...
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Robert M. Schacht
r_schacht@...
Oct 3, 2000 4:29 am
At 12:06 PM 10/02/00 , Rikki Watts wrote: ...First, to equate mythology with Midrash is simply wrong ... Second, Midrash in all but its most jejune sense is...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Oct 3, 2000 8:22 am
... From: "David C. Hindley" <dhindley@...> To: <crosstalk2@egroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 1:16 PM Subject: RE: [XTalk] Re: Josephus ...
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David C. Hindley
dhindley@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:13 pm
Jack, I agree with you that Origen (thanx for not making an issue of my misspelling of his name in the original post - duh) was kind of a nut. Still, he...
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Sukie Curtis
sbcurtis@...
Oct 3, 2000 2:22 pm
Bob Schacht wrote: At 12:06 PM 10/02/00 , Rikki E. Watts wrote: ".... The Lonergan project is essentially what Ben Meyer and NT Wright are trying to apply to...
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Jazz324@...
Oct 3, 2000 2:51 pm
Those members in or around Chicago might want to note that John Dominic Crossan will be in Chicago Tuesday to discuss his new book, A Long Way From Tipperary...
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forrest curo
forest@...
Oct 3, 2000 2:56 pm
... Perhaps for the same reason I find it unlikely. To create a singular personage with wisdom, you need a creator with wisdom of his/her own. Bokonon has some...
