In a message dated 6/3/99 4:59:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, lbr@... writes:
> On 3 Jun 99, at 16:06, Mark Goodacre wrote:
> > > What we then...
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Mahlon H. Smith
mahlonh.smith@...
Jun 4, 1999 1:04 pm
Lewis Reich wrote:
> > On 3 Jun 99, at 13:34, Mahlon H. Smith wrote:
> > > Fact is, the principle of the Messiah that was prevalent back then in
> > Galilee...
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Liz Fried
lizfried@...
Jun 4, 1999 3:16 pm
Hello All,
I've been enjoying this thread on the Messianic consciousness of Jesus, but
something has been nagging at me in the back of my mind. GMark makes...
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Mark Goodacre
M.S.GOODACRE@...
Jun 4, 1999 4:15 pm
On 3 Jun 99 at 15:45, Stevan Davies wrote:
> Gee. I was not aware that "healing activity" was connected with > "messiah." I thought a messiah was a ruler...
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Mike Grondin
mgrondin@...
Jun 4, 1999 7:54 pm
Under a different title, I'd written:
>Not only reminiscent of the old Judean dream of reuniting the 12 tribes
(under a new Jacob, no less!), but also...
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Mahlon H. Smith
mahlonh.smith@...
Jun 4, 1999 7:55 pm
First: Thanks to Bob Schacht for his summary of this thread & to all who
have contributed. This kind of salient, civil discourse is what
Crosstalk was designed...
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Jimi Fosdick
JFosdick@...
Jun 4, 1999 10:11 pm
I have recently been reading Burton Mack (The Lost Gospel & Who Wrote the
New Testament). I am curious if anyone knows how he arrives at the dates he...
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Lewis Reich
lbr@...
Jun 4, 1999 10:57 pm
On 4 Jun 99, at 9:06, Mahlon H. Smith wrote:
> Lewis Reich wrote:
> > > > On 3 Jun 99, at 13:34, Mahlon H. Smith wrote:
> > > > > Fact is, the principle of...
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Lewis Reich
lbr@...
Jun 4, 1999 11:04 pm
On 4 Jun 99, at 15:38, Mike Grondin wrote:
> >They said to Pilate: "We have a law not to swear, because it is a sin.
> Comment: the twelve named here are...
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Mike Grondin
mgrondin@...
Jun 4, 1999 11:31 pm
(from the "Acts of Pilate"):
> They said to Pilate: "We have a law not to swear, because it is a sin. ..."
Lewis Reich:
>Under Mishnaic law, the standard...
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Stevan Davies
miser17@...
Jun 5, 1999 1:03 am
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Stephen C. Carlson
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Jun 5, 1999 3:05 am
At 05:09 PM 6/4/99 -0500, Jimi Fosdick wrote:
>I have recently been reading Burton Mack (The Lost Gospel & Who Wrote the
>New Testament). I am curious if...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Jun 5, 1999 4:36 am
Jimi Fosdick wrote:
> > I have recently been reading Burton Mack (The Lost Gospel & Who Wrote the
> New Testament). I am curious if anyone knows how he...
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Andrew Bernhad
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Jun 5, 1999 5:51 am
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Andrew Bernhard
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Jun 5, 1999 6:07 am
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Austin Meredith
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Jun 5, 1999 2:28 pm
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Jun 5, 1999 2:42 pm
Andrew Bernhard wrote:
>Jack Kilmon wrote:
> > Scholars therefore look for "benchmarks" that might give a chronological handle.
> > But the "benchmarks"...
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Mike Grondin
mgrondin@...
Jun 5, 1999 3:09 pm
One point might not have been clear in my latest response to Lewis under
this title. One could say that it would have been against Judaic law to
swear by a...
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Bernard Muller
Mullerb@...
Jun 5, 1999 4:22 pm
Stephen C. Carlson wrote:
> > He admits that there really isn't much to go on in dating
> Mark because the references to the destruction of the temple in 70...
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Bernard Muller
Mullerb@...
Jun 5, 1999 5:38 pm
Stevan Davies wrote:
> > Since we
> Christians want our evidence as early as possible, then we don't
> assume Mk at 83 but exactly at 70, that being the...
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Jon Peter
jnp@...
Jun 5, 1999 6:55 pm
This discussion on Jesus' self-identification has been fascinating, and I've
enjoy reading others' thoughtful opinions.
My own view is that the basis for...
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Bernard Muller
Mullerb@...
Jun 5, 1999 7:00 pm
Stevan Davies wrote:
> > A Lk from 75 is possible, Acts from 60
> more than possible
If Acts was written before Luke's gospel, the following would have to be...
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Jon Peter
jnp@...
Jun 5, 1999 7:10 pm
Bernard wrote:
>
> If we look at Mk13:20-37, the arrival of the "new world order" was to be
> very soon after 70C.E. "Mark" was frantic about that.
Thank you...
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BobSchacht@...
Jun 5, 1999 7:44 pm
Two books of interest came out last year. Has anyone read them who would care to review them for us?
"Jesus as a Figure in History: How modern historians...
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BobSchacht@...
Jun 5, 1999 7:44 pm
In a message dated 5/31/99 10:10:40 AM US Mountain Standard Time, jgibson000@... writes:
> In addition to adding an "articles for...
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Antonio Jerez
antonio.jerez@...
Jun 5, 1999 9:02 pm
Ron Price wrote:
> Mark Goodacre argues that Jesus was a healer and was therefore likely to have thought of himself as the Messiah.
> On the first point I...
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Antonio Jerez
antonio.jerez@...
Jun 5, 1999 9:02 pm
Mark Goodacre wrote:
> On 3 Jun 99 at 15:45, Stevan Davies wrote:
> > > Gee. I was not aware that "healing activity" was connected with > > "messiah." I...
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Stevan Davies
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Jun 5, 1999 10:08 pm
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BobSchacht@...
Jun 6, 1999 12:26 am
In a message dated 6/5/99 2:04:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time, antonio.jerez@... writes:
> Mark Goodacre wrote:
[Davies quote omitted]
> >...
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Bernard Muller
Mullerb@...
Jun 6, 1999 12:38 am
Stevan Davies wrote: > > Absolutely true. But let me unpack the statement. By my hypothesis
> what we have is not the eventual retention of the single...