Jeffrey, You are right. I was too hasty in my reading of Focant. He was discussing Wrede's view. Joseph Codsi Seattle ________________________________ From:...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Nov 13, 2010 6:59 pm
A discussion list, even one for strictly scholarly discourse, will not last long in this era of blogs, if one will not engage. As long as one's interlocutor...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Nov 13, 2010 6:51 pm
... From: "yeshua666" <t.c.oneill2@...> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:36 PM To: <crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [XTalk] Is Jesus the "Lord"...
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Rikk Watts
rikkwatts
Nov 13, 2010 6:28 pm
Hmm.. sounds like a re-run of Wrede to me.. Rikk...
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jgibson000@...
jgibson000
Nov 13, 2010 6:25 pm
... Does he think he is original in this claim? Has he -- or you, for that matter -- not read (the 100 year old work of) Wrede? Jeffrey -- Jeffrey B....
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Joseph Codsi
codsijoseph
Nov 13, 2010 6:22 pm
An interesting statement by Focant. He says in substance that Mark wanted to hide the fact that during his life Jesus was not perceived as the Messiah. (18) In...
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Rikk Watts
rikkwatts
Nov 13, 2010 5:44 pm
BTW: This might not be directly relevant, but has anyone had a look at Gordon Fee's THE PAULINE CHRISTOLOGY? Perhaps the most extensive and painstaking ...
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David C Hindley
dchindley
Nov 13, 2010 5:00 pm
Tim, Sounds like "Spin" from FRDB. Based on my observations of the Pauline corpus, if a form of KURIOS refers to Jesus/Christ, a definite article is almost ...
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David Cavanagh
dacavanagh
Nov 13, 2010 1:29 pm
... I've now done what I suggested earlier this morning, checking out the occurences of "brother" in the Pauline literature. The term itself is common enough,...
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David Cavanagh
dacavanagh
Nov 13, 2010 1:29 pm
... Really? I think a quick check will show that "brother" and "Lord" tend to appear together as "brother(s) in the Lord". If "Lord" = YHWH then I think no...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Nov 13, 2010 3:25 am
... From: "yeshua666" <t.c.oneill2@...> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:31 PM To: <crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [XTalk] Is Jesus the "Lord"...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges
Nov 12, 2010 10:42 pm
Why bother arguing with the fellow? He's apparently in the same category as "Birthers"; or "Truthers"; -- no amount of evidence would convince him. ...
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yeshua666
Nov 12, 2010 10:37 pm
... And this guy would dismiss that as an argument from authority, an appeal to truth by democracy and evidence of a cultural Christian hegemony that even has...
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yeshua666
Nov 12, 2010 10:36 pm
... That's been done. He replies that Paul uses "brother" to refer to fellow believers in many places and so to assume "the Lord's brother" means a sibling...
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Robert Crompton
rcrompton2000
Nov 12, 2010 7:18 pm
Jack said: "The problem for mythers is quite clear. Someone that has siblings, multiply attested by historical contemporaries, cannot be a myth." Cannot be?...
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James Spinti
tweetynwiley
Nov 12, 2010 6:02 pm
With apologies for the cross-posting (and please forward to other interested parties and lists). Eisenbrauns is pleased to introduce the "Journal for the Study...
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David Cavanagh
dacavanagh
Nov 12, 2010 2:53 pm
... Well, I think I would move this argument away from the complex grammatical issues, and ask JA to provide contemporary evidence for the use of the idiom...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Nov 12, 2010 2:39 pm
... From: "yeshua666" <t.c.oneill2@...> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:11 PM To: <crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [XTalk] Is Jesus the "Lord"...
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Joseph Codsi
codsijoseph
Nov 12, 2010 3:20 am
Here is my comment on Camille Focant, "Une christologie de type 'mystique' (Marc 1.1-16.8)." _New Testament Studies_ January 2009. 1-21. About the author. ...
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yeshua666
Nov 12, 2010 3:20 am
First of all, hello to the group since I am a new member and this is my first post. I am currently in a discussion/debate with someone who is not so much a...
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jgibson000@...
jgibson000
Nov 5, 2010 9:54 pm
With apologies for cross posting. This is the second announcement of the now traditional (14th annual!) Society of Biblical Literature Annual Meeting...
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jgibson000@...
jgibson000
Oct 29, 2010 7:10 pm
With apologies for cross posting. It's that time of year again when the Society of Biblical Literature's Annual Meeting is just around the corner (Nov. 20th -...
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Joseph Codsi
codsijoseph
Oct 27, 2010 1:30 am
Thank you, David, for your enticing post. I'll read Focant's article and get back to you. The topic is of particular interest to me. Joseph Codsi Seattle ...
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David Mealand
D.Mealand@...
Oct 25, 2010 10:42 pm
I would like to know if anyone has come across any kind of response or further discussion of a 2009 NTS article by Focant. It has some very intriguing...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Oct 20, 2010 1:40 am
To: Crosstalk In Response To: Coleman Baker On: Paul at Corinth From: Bruce COLEMAN: Despite Baur's too simplistic view of Christian origins, particularly at...
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E Bruce Brooks
ebrucebrooks
Oct 20, 2010 12:35 am
To: Crosstalk In Response To: Ken Litwak On: Paul and Authenticity From: Bruce My previous comments on relevant methodology as I see it, and what it can ...
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Kenneth Litwak
JavaJedi2
Oct 19, 2010 5:08 pm
Bruce, I'm not sure if you missed the points I was trying to make or what, so I'm going to try again because you did not really address a couple of core...
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Coleman Baker
colemanabaker
Oct 19, 2010 5:07 pm
Bruce, I would tend to agree with your scorecard. I have am in the process of publishing my dissertation on Acts which Warren Carter (one of my committee...
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stevendeedon
Oct 19, 2010 5:07 pm
Sean Freyne gave the 2010 Shaffer Lectures at Yale Divinity School last week -- "Galilee, Jesus and Christology." (Freyne drew on his most recent book,Jesus,...
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James Spinti
tweetynwiley
Oct 4, 2010 4:09 pm
With apologies for the cross-posting: Yes, this is it; the sale you've been waiting for. Eisenbrauns is pleased to announce our third annual "SBL in October"...
