I can't help thinking, Gordon, that there is a whole lot of wishful thinking in your reconstruction. You're not on your own. Kathy Ehrensperger trying to row...
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RSBrenchley@...
robert_brenc...
May 20, 2009 11:07 am
In a message dated 20/05/2009 02:18:58 GMT Standard Time, crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com writes: <<A favorite coin is one where Gordian III is on the obverse and...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 20, 2009 12:03 pm
Hi Robert, ... Indeed they did! I think that Gordian antoninianus just gives such a stunning depiction of it. People tend to forget that until democracy ...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 20, 2009 12:53 pm
Hi John, ... So, now you're upholding that these folks were non-radical in this regard:)? To be sure the movement, once it became an organized organization ...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 20, 2009 3:37 pm
Hi Bob and all, Yesterday I wrote an introduction to this "part three" note. Now to proceed on to talk about the increased roles and their ordering from Paul,...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 20, 2009 5:06 pm
... Gordon, Please review the evidence for this. I must have missed it. Bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 20, 2009 5:59 pm
Hi, Check out I Cor. 9:5 "Do we not have the right to be accompanied by as believing wife (as the NRSV puts it) as do the other apostles and the brothers of...
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John E Staton
johnestaton
May 21, 2009 9:15 am
Actually, Gordon, all of this is a castle in the air. There is no evidence in the entire NT of a community which was egalitarian in practice as opposed to...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 21, 2009 12:36 pm
Hi John, ... Thanks for posting your summary views. I'll not deal with your "castle in the air" assessment, other than to say, in these notes I've pointed...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 21, 2009 2:46 pm
Hi Bob and all, As you start with the message of Peter in Acts, I want to write an addendum note about an important facet about how the kerygmatic message came...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 21, 2009 4:21 pm
Hi Bob and all interested, I started with the table fellowship singing of Psalms in Jesus' lifetime. This note offers suggested Psalms that may have been sung...
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Michael Gamache
michael.gamache
May 22, 2009 4:23 am
I am not certain if this statement is an insightful take on the accepted text, or alot of projecting on to the text. It is a damn good idea though. Unfortunate...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 22, 2009 3:22 pm
Bob and all, Finally to get to the kergymatic messaging about Jesus as the crucified and risen Christ and a note about Psalm/ hymn singing and poetic verse...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 22, 2009 3:52 pm
Hi Michael, Thanks for your note. As I noted what we have is a call to sing, we have reference to Jesus singing, himself, we have evidences from Graeco Roman...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 22, 2009 5:07 pm
... Please refresh my memory-- where was that? Bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 22, 2009 5:10 pm
From Colossians 3:16. Gordon...
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John E Staton
johnestaton
May 23, 2009 8:46 am
Mark 14: 26? Given the use of Psalms in contemporary Jewish worship and Pliny's reference to Christians "singing hymns to Christ as a god", along with all the...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 23, 2009 12:21 pm
Hi John, ... Glad to be on the same or at least similar page about one key facet of the story of Jesus and friends. And yes, those Wesley boys provided some...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 23, 2009 1:43 pm
Hi Bob and John and all, A friend, thinking about these notes, sent a note about music and song. In that note is the following line from some correspondence ...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 24, 2009 10:35 pm
Over on Synoptic-L, Jack Kilmon wrote today, ... Now, I don't want necessarily to get bogged down in minutiae about whether Jack is right about this or that...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 25, 2009 12:08 am
... Well, I've had some computer problems this past week, and Gordon has raced way out ahead of me. So rather than reply piecemeal to his series of emails, let...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 25, 2009 4:06 am
Hi Bob, Glad you got your computer back on line. As for racing ahead, I was on vacation until yesterday and this interesting back and forth conversation...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
May 25, 2009 7:02 am
... Questions are good. Especially good questions. Note to those who may be reading along: Gordon and I have both been on XTalk for a very long time. I think...
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Ron Price
ron18price
May 25, 2009 8:57 am
... Bob, The evidence *against* Q as an Aramaic source is set out in Kloppenborg's "Excavating Q", pp. 72-80. The evidence *for* an Aramaic sayings source ca....
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RSBrenchley@...
robert_brenc...
May 25, 2009 11:22 am
<<Mark 14: 26? Given the use of Psalms in contemporary Jewish worship and Pliny's reference to Christians "singing hymns to Christ as a god", along with all...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 25, 2009 1:23 pm
Hi Bob, ... Just ignore the bad ones:)! ... I don't want to put words in your mouth, but let me note the difference here in terms of your language of...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 25, 2009 5:40 pm
Hi Bob, ... Huh? In Luke it is the second sending. First the 12 go, now 70/2. Does that not suggest some success? Are those homes where there was reception...
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Ed Tyler
leeedgartyler
May 25, 2009 11:25 pm
You can find the Latin text on the excellent Early Christian Texts site: http://www.earlychurchtexts.com/main/plinyy/01_pliny_letter_to_trajan.shtml It is hard...
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John E Staton
johnestaton
May 26, 2009 8:14 am
Robert, As Latin has no definite article, it is up to the translator to choose between the two renderings. Most would choose as Ed has done because Pliny...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
May 27, 2009 10:08 pm
Hi Bob, Thanks to Ed Tyler for posting the link to Pliny letter. I particularly like this translation (hence the subject line). Here ca. 112 in Bithynia we...
