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22148 Jim West
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Apr 18, 2007
3:04 pm
If you missed the Colbert Report last night don't miss one of the many airings today. Delightful! -- Jim West, ThD http://drjewest.googlepages.com/ --...
22149 leeedgartyler@...
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Apr 18, 2007
5:01 pm
... The video should also be available at comedycentral.com later on today if it isn't already. The session with Bart Ehrman from the Daily Show is still up,...
22150 sdavies0 Send Email Apr 18, 2007
6:40 pm
Hi I saw much of it last night. She seemed to have picked up a technique that worked: she basically agreed without quibble or qualification with everything he...
22151 Jim West
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Apr 18, 2007
6:53 pm
... I'm really not personally annoyed by it because it's all part and parcel of the 1) open canon movement and 2) Pagels clear preference for gnostic and...
22152 Stephen C. Carlson
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Apr 18, 2007
7:24 pm
... Same here, except that I though the Gospel of Judas was mid-second century (being referenced by Irenaeus in the late second century). But your point still...
22153 leeedgartyler@...
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Apr 18, 2007
7:46 pm
... Yes! Her presentation in popular media lacks discrimination, as does that of many scholars. "Early Christianity" sure, but *how* early? An aside: I...
22154 Bob Schacht
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Apr 18, 2007
7:57 pm
... That's a reasonable trade-off: If you only have so much air time, do you want to spend it swatting down your host's silly stuff, or do you want to spend it...
22155 Bob Schacht
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Apr 18, 2007
8:28 pm
... How do I find out what plugins I need? Bob ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
22156 leeedgartyler@...
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Apr 18, 2007
9:48 pm
... Under the "Tools" menu of the Firefox browser is the category "Add-Ons" Open that and in the new window's lower right-hand corner of the "Extensions&quot; tab...
22157 Bob Schacht
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Apr 18, 2007
11:55 pm
... Well, having seen both segments (Pagels, Ehrman) , Colbert comes at you fast and hard. It is not a good show for thoughtful reflection. I thought Pagels...
22158 Darrell Bock
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Apr 19, 2007
2:47 pm
On Judas, it appears Irenaeus knew about this work, so that makes it a second century work. Here is the relevant data from my Missing Gospels: Formal date...
22159 Mike Grondin
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Apr 19, 2007
4:29 pm
After watching the Pagels interview, I spun through several earlier Colbert videos and came upon one that may be of particular interest to members, and which I...
22160 Mike Grondin
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Apr 19, 2007
4:32 pm
Hi Darrell, ... Makes it sound as if Irenaeus thought the work was written by Tertullian and Epiphanius. I'm pretty sure you don't mean that. (-:) Mike Grondin...
22161 sdavies0 Send Email Apr 19, 2007
6:08 pm
Hi Mike ... Or at least that he thought that the Torah was normative. I doubt that he did. My present theory vis a vis the astonishing prevalence of data that...
22162 Mike Grondin
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Apr 19, 2007
7:34 pm
Hi Steve, ... You think he wasn't _ethnically_ Jewish? (Which I guess would mean that Mariam wasn't ethnically Jewish?) Mike...
22163 Bob Schacht
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Apr 19, 2007
8:26 pm
... Mike, I think the question is, what did it mean to be ethnically Jewish in the First Century? There was some question evident in contemporary literature as...
22164 sdavies0 Send Email Apr 19, 2007
8:54 pm
... Well, yeah. I think he is ethnically Galilean and momma too. There were some who were Jewish in Galilee. Maccabees (can't locate place) reports that the...
22165 RAnderson58@...
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Apr 19, 2007
9:14 pm
another degree of separation This reminds that the Pharisees were the separated ones and the successors to the men of Ezra who advocated divorce of the 110 men...
22166 Chris Weimer
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Apr 20, 2007
4:01 am
What does it mean to be ethnically Jewish in the first century? Well, the Talmud is clear, isn't it? That it comes from matrilineal descent. I don't know if...
22167 Chris Weimer
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Apr 20, 2007
4:08 am
I disagree. That the Torah was normative I think goes back validly to the original Jesus, and the abandonment of the Torah was a later movement. Mark is so far...
22168 Bob Schacht
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Apr 20, 2007
5:37 am
... What I remember is that Torah was normative for the Sadducees, who more or less disappeared after the sack of Jerusalem c. 70 C.E.-- i.e., after the death...
22169 Bob Schacht
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Apr 20, 2007
5:37 am
... As you admit, this is probably anachronistic. ... It would indeed. If Ioudaios was primarily a geographic marker, that would change the reading of John's...
22170 Loren Rosson
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Apr 20, 2007
11:39 am
... According to the wisdom of some (Esler, Elliott, Malina, Rohrbaugh, Oakman, Hanson, etc.), "Jew" is a mistranslation in the NT. "Judean" should be used for...
22171 goranson@...
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Apr 20, 2007
11:58 am
There is more than one definition of Judaea; Gabinius, Roman governor of Syria, c. 60 BC if I recall correctly, included Judaea (in one sense) and Galilee and ...
22172 Darrell Bock
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Apr 20, 2007
2:20 pm
Mike: Thanks. It should read: Formal date testing on the codex and the manuscript’s ink verifies that this is a fourth century manuscript.It is written in ...
22173 Darrell Bock
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Apr 20, 2007
3:22 pm
Jesus' handling of Jewish practice issues is quite complex in the gospels because of the distinction one can make between what Torah observance would be and...
22174 Jim West
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Apr 20, 2007
3:38 pm
I'm not one to pour water on an issue- but if Jews today are still arguing about what it means to "be Jewish", how is it that we expect to come up with an...
22175 Matson, Mark (Academic)
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Apr 20, 2007
5:08 pm
Sdavies0 wrote: Or at least that he thought that the Torah was normative. I doubt that he did. My present theory vis a vis the astonishing prevalence of data ...
22176 Bob Schacht
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Apr 20, 2007
6:37 pm
At 06:26 AM 4/20/2007, Matson, Mark \(Academic&#92;) wrote: [snip] ... Mark, Isn't it fairly well established that the Maccabees, in their conquest of Galilee,...
22177 Matson, Mark (Academic)
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Apr 20, 2007
7:10 pm
... Bob: I am not familiar with the issue of placing prists in Sephoris... Anyone have a reference? Here I am a bit ignorant. I do know that Sephoris was...
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