... I think you're saying two different things here. You started out by writing that ... reports ... But then in explanation you write only that "that's what...
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peterson@...
jeffpeterson...
Jan 29, 2007 6:55 am
... We have no first-hand account by a person who claimed to witness the crucifixion; Paul gives us that for the resurrection, as well as attesting other...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 29, 2007 7:33 am
... This is very confusing, given the various senses of the word 'story'. Stories which are understood to be fictional will of course have no attestation at...
21808
Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 29, 2007 9:01 am
... If you want to think of it that way, yes. I don't think there's any objection to that, as long as one doesn't over-do it and make the ordinary into a...
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Gordon Raynal
feydmartha
Jan 29, 2007 2:01 pm
Hi Rikk and all, Some responses interspersed: ... And why not? (more below) ... Again... I think you've already found an example via your conclusions in this...
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león
taino_leon
Jan 29, 2007 2:09 pm
... station ... I mentioned it a couple days ago . . . But it was not posted, apparently. r leon santiago Tempe, AZ regular cypher...
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Zeba Crook
zeba_crook@...
Jan 29, 2007 3:09 pm
Dear John, Given what we know about how politicians spin information in order to manipulate, I mean attract voters, and the corruption and lying that are...
21812
Rikk Watts
rikkwatts
Jan 29, 2007 3:39 pm
Mike, ... The problem with the Pauline material is that it is occasional; which by it's very nature means that it is highly unlikely to contain the kind of ...
21813
león
taino_leon
Jan 29, 2007 3:54 pm
... - and, ... methodology, ... history by ... Listers might be interested in listening to a panel discussion that i found on the "history" of...
21814
John E Staton
johnestaton
Jan 29, 2007 5:02 pm
Mike, Re: 1 Cor. 15: 5-7, it is, of course, possible that "first, second, third" could refer to order of importance rather than timing. And an "official list"...
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John E Staton
johnestaton
Jan 29, 2007 5:06 pm
Jeff wrote; "I suspect that the appearance to 500 differs from the others in Paul's list as being a non-commissioning appearance (i.e., there weren't 500 who ...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 29, 2007 6:28 pm
... The only thing I was looking for in Gal 1:18-19 was what Jeff said was there: namely, a second- hand report by Paul of appearances to Peter and James. It...
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Zeba Crook
zcrook@...
Jan 29, 2007 6:39 pm
I just want to point out that I sent this email AGES ago, and had lost hope it would ever arrive. It's more than a little out of date now. Zeb ... -- Zeba A....
21818
Rikk Watts
rikkwatts
Jan 29, 2007 8:44 pm
Thanks Bob, I really have to catch up on this stuff; much of this was very helpful. just some questions if I may... and if it's alright too, I'll just deal...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 29, 2007 8:49 pm
Jeff, Sorry, but I read Rikk's later note rather than yours first. I've responded to some of the same points there, so I won't repeat that here. ... Huh? Have...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 29, 2007 9:08 pm
... Well, of course, the word 'must' was occasioned by what Rikk had said, and it probably wasn't the best choice of words, but even so, it may have served to...
21821
Ken Olson
kaolson101
Jan 29, 2007 9:38 pm
Whoops! I mean "Meier" of course, not "Meyer." My dyselxia must be acting up. Best, Ken Kenneth A. Olson MA, History, University of Maryland PhD Student,...
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Tony Buglass
tonybuglass
Jan 29, 2007 9:50 pm
Mike wrote: He doesn't say that he witnessed the resurrection. He says he saw Jesus. Plenty of people say that all the time. How did he even know it was Jesus...
21823
Joseph Weaks
jweaks
Jan 30, 2007 1:52 am
Regarding the Wedding in Cana, story. Any thoughts on purification rite water jars that held the water/wine? Was there a standard jar shape? Can anyone point...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 30, 2007 5:27 am
Hi Tony, Responding to a couple of your thoughtful ... I don't quite know how to answer this question. It seems likely that he was thinking about the ...
21825
Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Jan 30, 2007 6:07 am
... Well, just as a generalization (speaking as a data wonk), the more data you have, the less you have to worry about outliers. The less data you have, the...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Jan 30, 2007 6:07 am
... Thanks. I'll try to make this relatively quick, as I've got other matters to deal with tonight. ... You seem to be asking about a goal-less game. Its hard...
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Tony Buglass
tonybuglass
Jan 30, 2007 9:29 am
Mike wrote: ...Saul might well have been undergoing a major crisis of conscience as he rode to Damascus. Could well be. And this fits neatly into the sort of...
21828
Rikk Watts
rikkwatts
Jan 30, 2007 2:23 pm
Bob, Would you to say a bit more about this and its implications? Be appreciated. Rikk On 29/1/07 9:50 PM, "Bob Schacht" <r_schacht@...> wrote: ..>...
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Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Jan 30, 2007 6:47 pm
... Rikk, In a normal distribution, if you know the mean and the standard deviation, you know what the distribution looks like-- that is, you can decide what...
21830
Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 31, 2007 7:02 am
... Having spent the better part of the afternoon perusing the relevant portions of Crossan's "Who Killed Jesus", I can find no place there where he explicitly...
21831
Bob Schacht
r_schacht
Jan 31, 2007 7:57 am
... OK, correction accepted. I should not have used the word "all" ... Thank you for bringing these examples to my attention, and for offering an extended look...
21832
JamesFrankMcGrath
JamesFrankMc...
Jan 31, 2007 3:11 pm
I think that it is misleading (as I recall hearing N. T. Wright do in a documentary) to talk about an openness to the unusual and extraordinary, and then...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Jan 31, 2007 7:11 pm
... Thanks, James. I learned much from reading that. Two items in particular: one a link to an article by Byron McCane that was published in Chilton and Evans,...
