[Ron Price] ... time when Roman authority was dominant.< Agreed, Ron, and the portrait of Jesus befriending tax collectors is politically charged in harmony...
To Daniel Gaztambide Daniel, Your thesis sounds very interesting. You have identified a number of elements that are closely interrelated. What is not clear yet...
... Ernie, The portrait of Jesus befriending tax collectors, along with the editorial context of the "Render to Caesar" saying, were surely both part of Mark's...
Dear Joseph, I would have to say that my thesis agrees with you on several levels. My position (and that of my thesis) is that Peter being the first one to...
[Ron Price] ... context of the "Render to Caesar" saying, were surely both part of Mark's systematic attempt to curry favour with Rome. Thus it seems to me...
Daniel wrote: In a sense, my work tries to answer a certain set of questions: how exactly was the Messiah perceived in the early Church? Did it consider Jesus...
In a message dated 02/10/05 22:20:14 GMT Daylight Time, crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com writes: <<Your answer here is that there are two passages which suggest...
Tony Buglass wrote: "Perhaps we need a "quest for the historical Peter"..." That's exactly what I am trying to do! My current understanding of the ...
... Tony, Thanks for the interesting summary! ... I agree. ... Stevan Davies in his book, Jesus the Healer, argues that Jesus was more the charismatic than the...
As to Mark currying favor with Rome, I'm not sure whether having a Roman centurion acclaim Jesus as son of god would have much impressed those who had begun to...
Since the thread on Mark's dating just died out, I read with interest John Kloppenborg's piece in the JBL on *evocatio deorum* and the dating of Mark. Have any...
... That's right. Argues that Mark 13:1-2's "no stone on another" represents the "calling out" of Jerusalem's gods (from the Roman perspective) and offers an...
I read the article a little differently... So much of the "later" dating of Mark (post 70) has been grounded on the specificity of the description of the...
Congratulations to Jeffrey Gibson as Crosstalk2 reaches 500 in membership! Newer members of the list may not remember its unmoderated predecessor that...
I had not noticed this milestone and I too want to heartily congratulate Jeffrey and the other moderators for a job well done! I remember those dreadful...
(let's see if I can get this writ before I crash) A lot of the original posts, especially on this topic, did not pan out on my system - I merely got a lot of...
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... And a late one too! Maybe the gremlins are after ya. ... This is, strictly speaking, quite incorrect. The Reformation (I know, not the topic of this...
In a message dated 9/23/5 5:58:43 AM, Ernie Pennells wrote: << [John Poirier] ... whatsoever than there are with that education.< Can somebody remind me where...
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... Yes, Bill, I think you're right. I don't have the time to argue this at this time, but there is no reason to assume that Jesus was as uneducated as he is...
Tony, I was interested that you confirmed that Paul's paradosis was contained in vv3-5, and that vv.6-8 were his expansion of it. One criticism of my essay...
... It's on-line now. It is a fascinating, thought-provoking, and solidly researched piece--just what one would expect from Kloppenborg. As for your comment,...
John wrote: ...the assumption that vv 6-8 was part of the paradosis. I was arguing that the earliest concept of apostleship was the circle of the twelve, and...
If I may, I commend _The Gospel Hoax: Morton Smith's Invention of _Secret Mark__ by Stephen C. Carlson (Baylor U. Press, Nov. 2005). Carlson present multiple, ...
... Yes. I finished reading the galley. I don't think there will be many defenders of Clement's letter after Carlson's book becomes widely read. If there are, ...
Apologies for cross posting! It's that time of year again when the Society of Biblical Literature's Annual Meeting is just round the corner (Nov. 19th-Nov....
Saturday is the 19th- Sunday is the 20th. Which day please? ... -- D. Jim West Biblical Studies Resources - http://web.infoave.net/~jwest Biblical Theology...