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... Ernie, But the gospel writers were presenting their message to the Gentiles at a time when Roman authority was dominant. It would have been ...
Ron Price
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Oct 2, 2005
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19769
[Ron Price] ... time when Roman authority was dominant.< Agreed, Ron, and the portrait of Jesus befriending tax collectors is politically charged in harmony...
Ernest Pennells
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Oct 2, 2005
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19770
To Daniel Gaztambide Daniel, Your thesis sounds very interesting. You have identified a number of elements that are closely interrelated. What is not clear yet...
Joseph Codsi
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Oct 2, 2005
6:33 pm
19771
... Ernie, The portrait of Jesus befriending tax collectors, along with the editorial context of the "Render to Caesar" saying, were surely both part of Mark's...
Ron Price
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Oct 2, 2005
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19772
Dear Joseph, I would have to say that my thesis agrees with you on several levels. My position (and that of my thesis) is that Peter being the first one to...
Daniel Gaztambide
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Oct 2, 2005
8:44 pm
19773
[Ron Price] ... context of the "Render to Caesar" saying, were surely both part of Mark's systematic attempt to curry favour with Rome. Thus it seems to me...
Ernest Pennells
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Oct 3, 2005
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19774
Daniel wrote: In a sense, my work tries to answer a certain set of questions: how exactly was the Messiah perceived in the early Church? Did it consider Jesus...
Tony Buglass
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Oct 3, 2005
12:46 pm
19775
We have already heard good things about Stephen Carlson's forthcoming book, <a ...
Jim West
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Oct 3, 2005
3:17 pm
19776
In a message dated 02/10/05 22:20:14 GMT Daylight Time, crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com writes: <<Your answer here is that there are two passages which suggest...
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Oct 3, 2005
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19777
Tony Buglass wrote: "Perhaps we need a &quot;quest for the historical Peter&quot;..." That's exactly what I am trying to do! My current understanding of the ...
Daniel J. Gaztambide
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Oct 3, 2005
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19778
... Tony, Thanks for the interesting summary! ... I agree. ... Stevan Davies in his book, Jesus the Healer, argues that Jesus was more the charismatic than the...
Bob Schacht
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Oct 3, 2005
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19779
As to Mark currying favor with Rome, I'm not sure whether having a Roman centurion acclaim Jesus as son of god would have much impressed those who had begun to...
Rikk Watts
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Oct 4, 2005
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19780
Since the thread on Mark's dating just died out, I read with interest John Kloppenborg's piece in the JBL on *evocatio deorum* and the dating of Mark. Have any...
Jeff Krantz @ optonli...
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Oct 4, 2005
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19781
... Is that in the latest JBL? I haven't gotten mine yet. Stephen Carlson -- Stephen C. Carlson mailto:scarlson@... ...
Stephen C. Carlson
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Oct 4, 2005
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19782
... That's right. Argues that Mark 13:1-2's "no stone on another" represents the "calling out" of Jerusalem's gods (from the Roman perspective) and offers an...
Jeff Peterson
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Oct 4, 2005
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19783
Mine just arrived yesterday.. Jeff ... From: "Stephen C. Carlson" <scarlson@...> To: <crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005...
Jeff Krantz @ optonli...
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Oct 4, 2005
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19784
I read the article a little differently... So much of the "later" dating of Mark (post 70) has been grounded on the specificity of the description of the...
Jeff Krantz @ optonli...
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Oct 4, 2005
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19785
Congratulations to Jeffrey Gibson as Crosstalk2 reaches 500 in membership! Newer members of the list may not remember its unmoderated predecessor that...
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Oct 4, 2005
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19786
I had not noticed this milestone and I too want to heartily congratulate Jeffrey and the other moderators for a job well done! I remember those dreadful...
Jim West
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Oct 4, 2005
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19787
(let's see if I can get this writ before I crash) A lot of the original posts, especially on this topic, did not pan out on my system - I merely got a lot of...
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19788
... And a late one too! Maybe the gremlins are after ya. ... This is, strictly speaking, quite incorrect. The Reformation (I know, not the topic of this...
Jim West
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Oct 4, 2005
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19789
In a message dated 9/23/5 5:58:43 AM, Ernie Pennells wrote: << [John Poirier] ... whatsoever than there are with that education.< Can somebody remind me where...
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19790
... Yes, Bill, I think you're right. I don't have the time to argue this at this time, but there is no reason to assume that Jesus was as uneducated as he is...
John C. Poirier
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Oct 4, 2005
7:11 pm
19791
Tony, I was interested that you confirmed that Paul's paradosis was contained in vv3-5, and that vv.6-8 were his expansion of it. One criticism of my essay...
John E Staton
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Oct 4, 2005
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19792
... It's on-line now. It is a fascinating, thought-provoking, and solidly researched piece--just what one would expect from Kloppenborg. As for your comment,...
Stephen C. Carlson
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Oct 5, 2005
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19793
John wrote: ...the assumption that vv 6-8 was part of the paradosis. I was arguing that the earliest concept of apostleship was the circle of the twelve, and...
Tony Buglass
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Oct 5, 2005
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19794
If I may, I commend _The Gospel Hoax: Morton Smith's Invention of _Secret Mark__ by Stephen C. Carlson (Baylor U. Press, Nov. 2005). Carlson present multiple, ...
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Oct 5, 2005
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19795
... Yes. I finished reading the galley. I don't think there will be many defenders of Clement's letter after Carlson's book becomes widely read. If there are, ...
Loren Rosson
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Oct 5, 2005
12:07 pm
19796
Apologies for cross posting! It's that time of year again when the Society of Biblical Literature's Annual Meeting is just round the corner (Nov. 19th-Nov....
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Oct 5, 2005
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19797
Saturday is the 19th- Sunday is the 20th. Which day please? ... -- D. Jim West Biblical Studies Resources - http://web.infoave.net/~jwest Biblical Theology...
Jim West
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