... this Shroud -- it was so perfectly bonded together at its molecular level by the supernatural heat of the resurrection that no seams are visible, not even...
A fairly sensationalistic account may be found here: http://www.shroudstory.com/faq-carbon-14.htm This is all based on a paper by Raymond R. Rogers, who claims...
Ken wrote: Rogers calls for a new radiocarbon test based on a different sample. Unless and until someone does another such test and shows that the "main body"...
Ray Rogers' paper, in which he explains why we should throw out the 1988 radiocarbon dating of a sample of the shroud in favor of his vanillin dating of 1978...
The link I sent earlier for Ray Rogers' paper on the shroud appears not to work. You can also try this: http://tinyurl.com/5xgrl The full url is this: ...
To me the question is not so much if it is authentic, but how it was done. THIS is the real mystery. Perhaps theologians cannot really appreciate such a...
Here's what Joe Zias, a scientist, said on the issue on ANE just a bit ago: Dear Colleagues, Just when you think that its gone away, the Shroud of Turin...
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Jan 28, 2005 3:23 pm
In a message dated 1/28/05 10:20:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, Groupcolby writes: In a message dated 1/27/05 10:00:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, ...
... Even if that were so- the Shroud is a whole sheet. -- Jim West Biblical Studies Resources- http://web.infoave.net/~jwest Biblical Theology Weblog-...
... There is one simple question that nobody can answer: Just HOW was it manufactured? ... Well, what Zias is trumpeting here is very poor. He is not really ...
... I too am very much in a state of "don't know" about it. The most troubling counter-evidence, to my way of thinking, is that the shroud is a single piece of...
A question about list history... Wasn't the original crosstalk list shut down because of discussions about the infamous shroud? Just wondering... Steve Black ...
... The old list was never shut down. It still exists and one can actually still send messages to it. But at my initiative, a second (the present) list was...
The articles in psychological journals, listed below re. the " intersection of mental health, religion and culture", the HJ and the growth of Christianity all...
Karel, I must confess some admiration for your stalwart adherence to this view. I don't want to engage in a theoretical discussion of this position, though I...
... Is it true, do you think, that Karel has only one idea? Frankly I grow tired of him using almost any XTalk post he responds to as a springboard for...
Apologies for sending to the List what was meant to be a private message to Rikk. Really put my foot in it this time. Jeffrey -- Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil....
... Karel, Thanks for this little review of the journal contents that I forwarded. Perhaps you should write a letter to the editor?<g> Do the authors provide...
... And I'd like to see the name of any scholar who has favourably reviewed/accepted your thesis about Mark being a post 70 CE reworking of a Passover...
To Listers, Back in 2002 when Jonathan Reed's books (_Archaeology and the Galilean Jesus_; _Excavating Jesus_ [co-authored with Crossan]) and his theory on the...
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Jan 29, 2005 12:02 pm
The tourists' Pharaonic Village at Cairo includes several museums (so-called) in which the artefacts include such priceless antiquities as the toothbrush of...
I first heard the "not known sorrow" story with the Buddha as the main character. There are a couple versions online if you google "Buddha" and "not known...
Does anyone here have Kittel TDNT on CD Rom? If so, would you please contact me OFF LIST? Thanks. Jeffrey -- Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.) 1500 W. Pratt...
... I have already been contacted by several people on this matter. So please ignore this message. Yours, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.) 1500...
... Here is what appears to be the first post in that thread: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/crosstalk2/message/9098 Tim, thank you for drawing my attention to...
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Ernest Pennells
pennells@...
Jan 30, 2005 6:57 am
[Ken Olson] ... Thanks, Ken. The question then becomes whether its provenance predates Jesus. It has always struck me as odd that those who are most...
Renaming was common in the ancient world and took various forms. 1. Jews and Egyptians often took a Latin or Greek name to supplement their ethnic name....
