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17873
Bob, I have a little time this morning before I leave town, so I'll try to address some more of your concerns. [Allison] ... [Bob] ... All I am saying is that...
Loren Rosson
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Jan 1, 2005
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17874
... I think I'm just making this up, the streetlight fallacy, but maybe not. The fallacy label comes from the joke about the drunk crawling around at night...
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Jan 1, 2005
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17875
... I haven't heard it called the "streetlight fallacy" but it is a vitally important concept that unfortunately gets ignored far too often. The hard part,...
Stephen C. Carlson
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Jan 1, 2005
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17876
With apologies for cross posting: Just a reminder that out Seminar with Gerd Ludemann on his book _The Resurrection of Christ_ begins on Monday, Jan 3rd. We...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Jan 1, 2005
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17877
Stephen Carlson wrote on Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:46 PM: Subject: Re: [XTalk] The Streetlight Fallacy ... [TJW} For some reason I did not receive Steve's...
Theodore Weeden
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17878
For some reason, Steve Davies' original post (see below) appeared on my computer after I just sent a post regarding it and Stephen Carlson's reply to it. That...
Theodore Weeden
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17879
... I don't think this analogy is on point. The problem is that, in the case of the drunk seeking his keys, there is no reason to think (and good reason not...
Patrick Narkinsky
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Jan 1, 2005
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17880
I took the following comment from Gavin McNett to be a comparison of Brown ... To which Jeffrey Gibson (no doubt reflecting the sensibilities of many of ... ...
C. McKinney
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Jan 1, 2005
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17881
... Because Brown is making claims about the HJ and Chick is making claims about Wescott and Hort. Moreover, Brown's works is an international best seller....
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Jan 1, 2005
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17882
... Well, I'm just throwing this, out but I'd say the fact that Brown presents his views as being the prevailing opinion in Academic circles might have...
Patrick Narkinsky
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Jan 1, 2005
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17883
... Even worse, Brown's book, a fiction, is read by many as a factual account. I know, you know, pretty much everyone on list knows its fiction- but the...
Jim West
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Jan 1, 2005
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17884
... I knew someone was going to bring up this point. We can each provide our own counter-metaphor-- mine is that the drunk dropped his keys next to his parked...
Bob Schacht
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Jan 1, 2005
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17885
... Actually it is only on point if one assumes that folk holding to something resembling historical christianity are drunks stumbling along in the dark. Not...
Jim West
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Jan 2, 2005
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17886
... I would take a different tack: that Jesus was the "first fruits" of the general resurrection and that, by raising him from the dead, God has promised to do...
Patrick Narkinsky
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Jan 2, 2005
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17887
... Thanks for taking the time, and Happy New Year! ... Well, it gets us off-topic a little here, but to call oneself a Christian implies priorities, and to...
Bob Schacht
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Jan 2, 2005
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17888
... Actually it is only on point if one assumes that folk holding to something resembling historical christianity are drunks stumbling along in the dark. Not...
Tony Buglass
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Jan 2, 2005
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17889
[Bob] ... I'm afraid you'd have to ask a Christian like Dale. :) ... I'm actually choosing the word very carefully, and I stand my assessment -- the recent...
Loren Rosson
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Jan 2, 2005
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17890
Hi Steve, ... The question: Why "the creeps?" Comments: 1. If Mark is what we have, then in principle no historical research can be done. One has to have...
Gordon Raynal
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Jan 2, 2005
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17891
... other details<< In prep for the Ludeman seminar and as a part of my random walk through the maze of Xtalk, I am reading Dunn, Christology in the Making. I...
Bob MacDonald
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Jan 2, 2005
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17892
... Don't know what "communities" you have in mind, but could they have been any more zoo-y on end-times ferment than Paul? Or where do you see him correcting...
Mike Grondin
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Jan 2, 2005
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17893
Gordon Raynal wrote: "The question: Why "the creeps?"" All of this effort going into a project that seems to be hopeless is creepy. Or at least it seems...
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Jan 2, 2005
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17894
Bob Schacht writes: I'm not of a mind to suggest that Christianity would be *totally* debunked if the historical Jesus turns out to be radically different from...
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Jan 3, 2005
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17895
... No, you didn't make this up. Donald Akenson uses the same "mashal", as he calls it, on p 174 of Saint Saul. (He agrees with you that the synoptics are...
Loren Rosson
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Jan 3, 2005
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17896
Steve, Thanks for your clarification of "creepy", but it brings up an interesting question about your denigration of Sanders's view. You wrote: "[I]sn't it ...
John C. Poirier
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Jan 3, 2005
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... You're right, John. The eschatological prophet who looked for the restoration of Israel, obedient to Torah, does not square with Sanders' own breed of ...
Loren Rosson
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17898
... Hi Mike, With the note that I think individual communities were in themselves diverse (note Paul dealing with at least four "I belong to" groups in Corinth...
Gordon Raynal
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17899
Hi Steve, ... I agree that this is the meat of the matter. But as for Jesus, looking across the resources I think we can sketch out the core of his ...
Gordon Raynal
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Jan 3, 2005
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17900
... interesting > question about your denigration of Sanders's view. You wrote: "[I]sn't it> creepy how everybody knows that people make their image of Jesus...
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17901
... I've heard this term before but I've never understood it. What does the "restoration" of Israel mean? If someone can explain it, please do so on the level...
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Jan 3, 2005
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17902
... As a quick off the cuff answer - wouldn't it simply mean returning to the country her sovereignty? In other words getting those pesky Romans out of the...
SteveBlack
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