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16914
Dear John and co-writers, I wonder how much importance should be attached to Lk 24:13 and vs. 40. It seems to me that these verses would have rung a bell for...
Karel Hanhart
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Nov 1, 2004
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16915
... As to what this has to do with 1 Peter, I refer you to 3:18-19, which I mentioned in a previous note. I'm not, of course, claiming that Luke knew 1 Peter,...
Mike Grondin
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Nov 1, 2004
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16916
In a message dated 30/10/04 00:53:02 GMT Standard Time, crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com writes: <<John, I think your caution is well advised, as are the points...
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Nov 2, 2004
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In a message dated 11/2/2004 3:27:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, RSBrenchley@... writes: I wonder whether there's another clue in the portraits of the Herod...
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Nov 2, 2004
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16918
... Jesus. I just ... So far on this thread every single piece of evidence suggested has indicated exactly the same thing, that men of that period wore their ...
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16919
It is commonly said in historical Jesus studies that Mark 15.34, Jesus' cry of dereliction on the cross, satisfies the criterion of "embarrassment" or "against...
Mark Goodacre
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Nov 2, 2004
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16920
... He is. And I've often wondered if behind the story -- which is the climax of a series of abandonments of Jesus on the part of those (his nation, his...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Nov 2, 2004
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16921
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:53:58 -0600, Jeffrey B. Gibson ... I'd be interested to hear more of that. ... It sounds interesting; who wrote it? Perhaps we could...
Mark Goodacre
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Nov 2, 2004
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16922
Dear Mark, I agree. In addition, I would want to see *how* we know this to have been embarrassing. An argument for authenticity according to the criterion of...
Zeba Crook
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Nov 2, 2004
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16923
... I really have no more to add at this moment since I've only noted the parallel but never explored it. ... A William Sanger Campbell at Columbia Theological...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Nov 2, 2004
7:09 pm
16924
... Why not? Sounds like an intriguing thesis. The question I might ask, is why is Hezekiah's example so seldom alluded to, either in the first centuries, or...
Bob Schacht
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Nov 2, 2004
7:30 pm
16925
... As the author of the paper has made it available only to the SBL Mark group, and for discussion within that group, it would be unethical to post it here...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Nov 2, 2004
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16926
Mark Goodacre wrote Tuesday, November 02, 2004: 1:35 PM Subject: [XTalk] Embarrassment and Mark 15.34 ... I agree with you, Mark. In fact, as soon as I can...
Theodore Weeden
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Nov 2, 2004
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16927
... Are you saying there was no betrayal tradition before Mark? If so, how do you handle 1 Cor. 11:23? Is PAREDIDETO **purely** theological = "delivered up...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Nov 2, 2004
9:48 pm
16928
... It needn't be one or the other -- the root meaning is to "hand over" as in to hand over to the authorities, police, courts, etc. So LSJ and BAGD. No idea...
William Arnal
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Nov 2, 2004
10:22 pm
16929
... Jeffrey, the translation of PARADIDOMI as "betrayal" in I Cor. 11:23 (found in most translations) is unfortunately prejudiced by the story of Judas' ...
Theodore Weeden
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Nov 2, 2004
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16930
... Yes, I am aware of the "root" meaning. But as LSJ also notes, when PARADIDWMI is used as it is in 1 Cor. with reference to a **person**, the verb more...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Nov 2, 2004
11:34 pm
16931
Mike, Concerning John 20: 24-29, Thomas doesn't touch, either. It would appear both gospel writers depict Jesus as offering the possibility of touch, but ...
John E Staton
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Nov 2, 2004
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16932
... Except that that seems to have been the meaning it bore when used with reference to a person, especially a person who shortly after the delivery suffers...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Nov 2, 2004
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16933
... In fact I was stuck recently by just how major a theme PARADIDWMI is in Mark's Passion Narrative -- 15.1 Jesus is handed over to Pilate, 15.10 the chief...
Mark Goodacre
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Nov 2, 2004
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16934
... And said something similar to me as well. In fact neither LSJ nor the text of Mark (cf. 15:1, as I noted earlier, as well as Mark Goodacre's [the *other*...
William Arnal
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Nov 2, 2004
11:59 pm
16935
Ted -- thanks for that and I look forward very much to the book. Just one comment at this stage: On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:00:15 -0500, Theodore Weeden ... You...
Mark Goodacre
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Nov 2, 2004
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16936
Jeffrey Gibson wrote: ... It is not clear to me what you are positing here. Are you suggesting that a person delivered up to death is understood to have been...
Theodore Weeden
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Nov 3, 2004
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16937
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Nov 3, 2004
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16938
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:17:48 -0600, Jeffrey B. Gibson ... Prof. Campbell has now kindly given his permission for his article to be shared with Xtalk members...
Mark Goodacre
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Nov 3, 2004
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16939
In a message dated 11/2/04 10:46:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, ... Hello Steve, Maybe I missed some of the evidence; but all I have seen is a mural that is ...
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Nov 3, 2004
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16940
... Hi Bob, Your question caused me to do a little research. My reading of 2 Kings 20:1-11 (which I think is what Jeffrey was referring to) indicates it'd be a...
Mike Grondin
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Nov 3, 2004
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16941
... Sorry; my mind was playing tricks on me. ... The locution seems ambiguous to me. I mean, one could imagine her reaching out to him, and then he stops her...
Mike Grondin
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Nov 3, 2004
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16942
... You need to look at the LXX version of this! Jeffrey -- Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.) 1500 W. Pratt Blvd. #1 Chicago, IL 60626 jgibson000@......
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Nov 3, 2004
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16943
... You mean IV Kings 20:1-11? Seems to read about the same. Mike...
Mike Grondin
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Nov 3, 2004
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