... Zeb, I essentially agree with what you're getting at, and as I pointed out Akenson is indeed insulting. My only point is that lampooning itself is neither...
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C. McKinney
C_McK
Oct 1, 2004 1:34 pm
... You probably didn't mean it this way, but it sounds as though you disagree with JS critics, including Wright, because of their emotions. That would be a...
16368
C. McKinney
C_McK
Oct 1, 2004 1:34 pm
Joe, Just to follow-up, it seems I would have benefited from reading further posts before zapping off my reply. I misunderstood what you said, and reacted on...
16369
Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Oct 3, 2004 12:47 am
Apologies for cross posting! It's that time of year again when the Society of Biblical Literature's Annual Meeting is just round the corner (Nov. 20th-Nov....
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Jim Lewis
cenelconaill
Oct 4, 2004 11:07 am
... Just as a clarification, I am somewhat puzzled by your characterisation of Wright's response to the Jesus Seminar as "emotional". I wonder if you would be...
16371
Loren Rosson
rossoiii
Oct 4, 2004 11:21 am
List-- Sidetracked as I was with Akenson, I forgot to mention William Herzog's "Jesus, Justice, and the Reign of God", in which there is useful critique of the...
16372
Tony Buglass
tonybuglass
Oct 4, 2004 2:36 pm
... One of the interesting things for me, coming back to HJ scholarship about 5 years ago after some years focussed on other things, was discovering how many...
16373
gdawson22824
Oct 4, 2004 3:08 pm
... Well, my plane tickets are to San Antonio, Texas. . .(sorry-- couldn't resist) Gail Dawson...
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William Arnal
warnalca
Oct 4, 2004 3:41 pm
... You're not saying I'm emotional, are you? Seriously, though, I think I agree with your basic point here -- being emotional in and of itself need not ...
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Bob Webb
robertlwebb
Oct 4, 2004 4:27 pm
Bill, Funny you should ask. This morning I received in the mail the page proofs for _Apocalypticism, Anti-Semitism and the Historical Jesus: Sub-texts in ...
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Steve Dingeldein
sdingeldein@...
Oct 4, 2004 5:42 pm
Interesting work on emotion and reason has been done by Antonio Damasio (Descartes Error: Reason, Emotion and the Human Brain) who is Van Allen Distinguished...
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Joseph Weaks
jweaks
Oct 4, 2004 6:40 pm
... James, Please read the whole thread where I clarified... Another lister cited argued that Wright was being emotional, not scholarly, in places. Sorry for...
16378
Loren Rosson
rossoiii
Oct 4, 2004 7:23 pm
List members -- I was chatting off-list with Bob Webb who suggested I post my recent review of his book about Gibson's passion film to the list (which appears...
16379
Jim West
drjewest
Oct 5, 2004 1:03 am
... Just a question- does anyone actually believe that there is such a thing as "scholarly detachment"? If so, could someone kindly explain how its possible...
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John C. Poirier
johncpoirier
Oct 5, 2004 11:25 am
... "Scholarly detachment"? Yes. *Pure* "scholarly detachment? No, but as far as methodology goes, that's beside the point. The unattainability of a purely...
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SteveBlack
steveblack44
Oct 5, 2004 11:39 am
... Bultmann (hardly a "post-modernist") believed that any object of interest is firstly an object of *interest* - something that the investigator is...
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Bob Webb
robertlwebb
Oct 5, 2004 12:06 pm
Loren, Thanks for a most interesting and helpful review. One of the points we made in the Introduction is that we invited a broad spectrum of scholars partly ...
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Jim West
drjewest
Oct 5, 2004 12:53 pm
... Bultmann was who I had in mind who in his now too often forgotten essay on "Presuppositionless Exegesis" points out exactly what you have. Jim ...
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Rikk Watts
rikkwatts
Oct 5, 2004 1:17 pm
Hi Bob, I wonder if not explaining everything was actually a clever move ‹ I am impressed that you even attempted to profile the average viewer, and for a ...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Oct 5, 2004 1:21 pm
... far as methodology goes, that's beside the point. The unattainability of a purely detached standpoint does not call into question the attempt to be ...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Oct 5, 2004 1:21 pm
... is firstly an object of *interest* - something that the investigator is interested in. This eliminates "detachment" right from the start. We ask about...
16387
John C. Poirier
johncpoirier
Oct 5, 2004 1:32 pm
... It's been a long time since I read Bultmann's essay, but I think that if you take this logic to the reductionistic point that Bultmann seems to be taking...
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Bob Webb
robertlwebb
Oct 5, 2004 1:35 pm
Rikk, Obviously there is tremendous diversity in the "average viewer", not only in North America, but across the world. What I'm suggesting is that, amongst ...
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Zeba Crook
zcrook@...
Oct 5, 2004 1:55 pm
Loren, I had the same response, and so side with Bob on this one Loren. If the movie was only released for Church related purposes, fairly assuming an ...
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Loren Rosson
rossoiii
Oct 5, 2004 2:34 pm
... Fair enough guys; I won't press the point. Admittedly I tend to have an elitist view of film -- that directors can and sometimes should "expect more" from ...
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Rikk Watts
rikkwatts
Oct 5, 2004 2:43 pm
Zeb, Not to make a big issue of it, but I'm not sure it's quite accurate to say it was released as a "blockbuster" ‹ my recollection was that no one wanted ...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Oct 5, 2004 2:46 pm
... This is news to me that "beyond reasonable doubt ... once was pretty much the scholarly standard." Who ever said this? I'd like to debunk them. Stephen...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Oct 5, 2004 2:52 pm
What has anyone here found to be the cheapest airline for flights to SBL -- especially from the Chicago area? The prices that the SBL sponsored carriers...
16394
Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
Oct 5, 2004 3:18 pm
... My concern with this would be that it is looking for something in the flashbacks that they are not trying to depict. It is like looking in the film's...
16395
Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
Oct 5, 2004 3:26 pm
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:55:43 -0400, Zeba Crook ... No, it is not. In fact, quite the contrary. I argue that the film is so "in your face" (to use Fulco's...
