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14931
We had a relatively enduring thread on XTalk a while back about whether or not Jesus thought he was the messiah, and if not, who thought he was, and ... Has...
Bob Schacht
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Mar 1, 2004
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14932
Bob, the book's not so old -- it came out only about ... from the Maccabees to Bar Kochba, Journal for the Study of the Pseudepigrapha Supplement Series - JSPS...
Horace Jeffery Hodges
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Mar 1, 2004
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14933
This other book by Oegema may be of interest to listers: Das Heil ist aus den Juden: Studien zum historischen Jesus und seiner Rezeption im Urchristentum....
Jim West
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Mar 1, 2004
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... It was published in 1998. There's no review of it at bookreviews.org Jim +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr Jim West Pastor, Petros Baptist Church ...
Jim West
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Mar 1, 2004
7:24 pm
14935
Saw the film myself last night. Given the vast disparity among reviews Iım not sure my tuppence counts for much. More than any I have personally seen in my 33...
Dr. Rikk E. Watts (Ca...
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Mar 1, 2004
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... I'm going to see the movie (grudgingly) tomorrow. But I would like to drop a quick note on this just because I've seen it in various settings of late. I...
Zeba Crook
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Mar 1, 2004
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Like everyone else, I suspect, I've been reading the outpouring of commentary on Gibson's film from popular religious leaders with great interest. This past...
Mike Grondin
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Mar 1, 2004
8:09 pm
14938
Perhaps it is important, both with the NT and with film, that we distinguish between anti-semitism by the author/film-maker and anti-semitism by the ...
Bob Webb
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Mar 1, 2004
8:19 pm
14939
Listers may be interested in this: http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1249098.html Jim +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr Jim West Pastor, Petros Baptist Church ...
Jim West
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Mar 1, 2004
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14940
... I think also that the movie assumes knowledge of the doctrine of atonement, and hints at it with the Isaiah quote at the beginning. If you don't view the...
Bob Schacht
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Mar 1, 2004
9:22 pm
14941
Those of you who have seen _The Passion_ (thumbs way down from me, a brutal, bloody, and brutalizing film, a sacred snuff movie, the Jesus Chainsaw massacre)...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Mar 1, 2004
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14942
Jim asked: What the devil was the allusion about when the devil was carrying a hairy backed baby around? I guess this is a mockery of the madonna and child...
Bob MacDonald
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Mar 1, 2004
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14943
"Televistion Broadcast Was No More Than 'Rumor'" by Oded Golan can be read at http://www.bibleinterp.com http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/Golan_Rumor.htm ...
Stephen Goranson
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Mar 1, 2004
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Thanks Mike, I hope you might be encouraged by the fact that this is how the people at my churchıs youth group saw it. Jesus fought the status quo not by...
Dr. Rikk E. Watts (Ca...
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Mar 2, 2004
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14945
... but the fact is that ... I do not understand how this would be a questionable interpretation other than the fact that Matt. might not have expected people...
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14946
List -- I've appreciated reading reviews of The Passion from various list members -- Bob Schacht, Rikki Watts, and Jack Kilmon in particular. I saw the film...
Loren Rosson
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Mar 2, 2004
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14947
With all the recent discussion of the passion perhaps this essay: http://www.bsw.org/?l=71841&a=Ani02.html will be on interest to listers. The title of the...
Jim West
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Mar 2, 2004
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14948
... I think that "taken in conjunction" is very much the point. Mel G, like his favored pre-Vatican II Catholicism, essentially divorces the passion from J's...
Mike Grondin
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Mar 2, 2004
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14949
... (Apologies for cross-posting) This has been oft-mentioned in the published reviews, but seldom mentioned in our current threads on the movie. For a...
Bob Schacht
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Mar 2, 2004
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... From: "Bob MacDonald" <bobmacdonald@...> To: <crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: RE: [XTalk] allusions... ...
Jack Kilmon
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Mar 2, 2004
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14951
... Curiously, Gibson has another definition- http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/news/040301-passion.html which frankly I find incomprehensible. I like...
Jim West
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Mar 2, 2004
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14952
I am still hoping that someone on this list will comment on the underlying meaning of diabolos in the Greek of GJohn and its Aramaic or Hebrew background....
Jan Sammer
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Mar 3, 2004
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14953
I saw Mel's Passion last night. Below are my comments if you're interested. I can set aside the historical inaccuracies, though they bug me in movies and...
Zeba Crook
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Mar 3, 2004
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14954
I will be away until March 11. I will respond to your messages upon my return. Thank you. Henry Carrigan...
Henry Carrigan
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Mar 3, 2004
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14955
Dear All, Is it not whitewashing to label the Diabolos as simply slanderer or liar? I seem to recall that Diabolos is used in the Greek writings to translate ...
Lisbeth S. Fried
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Mar 3, 2004
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14956
(Title of Henry Carrigan's automated message): "My Night of Passion (I will be away until March 11." Must've been some night. Either that or he doesn't bounce...
Mike Grondin
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Mar 3, 2004
4:31 pm
14957
... Can you tell us where you read this? And which Greek writings are you speaking of? Jeffrey -- Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.) 1500 W. Pratt Blvd. #1 ...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Mar 3, 2004
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14958
Darn, I was afraid someone would ask me, I've been trying to remember. I thought Herodotus, but I couldn't find it. Now I see that I must be wrong. It's not in...
Lisbeth S. Fried
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Mar 3, 2004
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14959
... Liz, Don't slink away, please. Was this what you were thinking of? ... [from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09591a.htm ] From "The Anchor Bible...
Bob Schacht
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Mar 3, 2004
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14960
I don't think it's a whitewash. It is the literal and ordinary meaning of the term. The term could apparently cover different situations, but in its most...
Jan Sammer
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