... In my mind, that's arguable, but in any case I didn't make the distinction you suggest. In fact, the notion of "NT scholars" becoming polarized would make...
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Eric Eve
ecse2000
Aug 1, 2003 11:03 am
... Neither of these statements is unreasonable or untrue, but I think they could be taken as suggesting or presupposing (or leading to) something more ...
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Karel Hanhart
hanhartfamily
Aug 1, 2003 11:42 am
... From: Jeffrey B. Gibson <jgibson000@...> To: <crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [XTalk] Re: Jesus...
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Brian Trafford
bjtraff
Aug 1, 2003 3:33 pm
... wrote: ... I'm afraid your answer has left me a little more puzzled than I was before. Does your response mean only that a believer in "Z" is someone with...
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Brian Trafford
bjtraff
Aug 1, 2003 3:39 pm
... {Snip detailed explanation of the difference Eric means when, and why, he uses "anomaly" instead of "miracle" to describe specific event as described in...
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Jim West
jwest@...
Aug 1, 2003 3:57 pm
Listers may be interested to know that the newest number of the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus has an article titled "Authorial Intent and...
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Eric Eve
ecse2000
Aug 1, 2003 4:34 pm
... Great! I'm glad I've at last succeeded in making myself clear to somebody. ... Yes, though I think the anomalies that force change in scientific theory ...
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turton
turtonm
Aug 2, 2003 2:14 am
[much of Eric Eve's thoughtful post snipped for brevity¡¦s sake] ... A quick correction. An "atheist" is committed to a lack of belief in gods. This does not...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Aug 2, 2003 5:43 am
Brian- I'll keep this short, since I'm fairly well satisfied with much of your response. I do, however, want to comment briefly on two purported "miracles"; in...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Aug 2, 2003 7:11 am
Eric- Thanks for putting me in Steve's company. Although I don't know him personally, we've had a long history of correspondence relative to the Gospel of...
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Eric Eve
ecse2000
Aug 2, 2003 7:36 am
... Well, I suppose this depends on what we mean by 'common ground' here; I take it to mean a sufficient common basis to allow conversation/debate to be ...
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Eric Eve
ecse2000
Aug 2, 2003 7:46 am
... need to ... event was ... _Changing ... no way ... largely ... (I think in the first of these paragraphs he was quoting me). In a subsequent post I pointed...
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Mike McLafferty
michaelmclaf...
Aug 2, 2003 1:31 pm
... I was reminded of these threads by the current issue of The New Republic magazine (July 28 & August 4), which has a fairly long piece by Paula Fredriksen...
... Josephus had ... of a ... heard this ... though a ... itself ... Schweitzer ... once the ... as ... different ... existence of "a ... myself ... three ... ...
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Geoff Hudson
gth400
Aug 2, 2003 1:32 pm
... From: Karel Hanhart [mailto:K.Hanhart@...] Sent: 01 August 2003 12:36 To: crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [XTalk] Re: Jesus rescued by...
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Emmanuelle Main
emmanuellemain@...
Aug 2, 2003 1:32 pm
... In a paper published in 1994 (in hebrew), Tal Ilan surveyed a group of 1986 men bearing 397 names and by this means, she has shown which names were most ...
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townsendgm
Aug 2, 2003 2:19 pm
... difference ... theological ... atheist is thus ... miracles. ... in gods. Snip balance of post, with which I have no quarrel whatever. HOWEVER, I...
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Liz Fried
lizzfried
Aug 2, 2003 2:35 pm
Thank you for this response. There is also an article in today's New York Times bringing up many of the same points. Liz ... From: Mike McLafferty...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Aug 2, 2003 3:36 pm
... COMMITTED TO A LACK OF BELIEF IN GODS. Atheists, in my experience, have simply come to the conclusion, after examining the available evidence, that gods...
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sdavies0
Aug 2, 2003 4:54 pm
... I have run into athiests who fit Michael's definition. One such comes to most or all Jesus Seminar meetings. He's a member of the American Athiests society...
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Geoff Hudson
gth400
Aug 3, 2003 1:59 am
... From: Emmanuelle Main [mailto:emmanuellemain@...] Sent: 02 August 2003 12:58 To: crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [XTalk] Re: Jesus rescued by...
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Clarice O'Callaghan
cocallag
Aug 3, 2003 2:02 am
... From: "cocallag"; <cocallag@...> To: <cocallag@...> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Anomalies vs. Miracles ... ...
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townsendgm
Aug 3, 2003 2:29 am
... has ... Hosts) ... and ... wine.. ... pints ... used ... supply ... Snip balance of post. Guy Townsend observes: There is a simple scientific test which...
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townsendgm
Aug 3, 2003 2:29 am
... <townsendgm@c...> ... conclusion, ... the ... to ... might ... member of the ... idea ... knew ... non-theist ... to the ... committed ... what we ... Guy...
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turton
turtonm
Aug 3, 2003 2:29 am
... My bad. I meant only that an atheist is someone who lacks a belief in god. Michael Turton AFl Chaoyang University Taichung, Taiwan...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Aug 3, 2003 4:52 am
... Yeah, me too, Guy. I think it should be rather obvious that the Eucharist talk in Paul and John wasn't intended to be taken literally. The 'is' in the...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges
Aug 3, 2003 6:12 am
Guy M. Townsend wrote: <Atheists, in my experience, have simply come to the conclusion, after examining the available evidence, that gods do not exist. (As...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
Aug 3, 2003 6:37 am
... No, of course not. But if one gets a feeling that the conclusions of the other party are presuppositions instead of conclusions, and that they're not...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges
Aug 3, 2003 6:37 am
Concerning Mike McLafferty's post: I've been trying to follow the controversy over Gibson's not-yet-released move and wondering about judgements rendered...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Aug 3, 2003 11:26 am
... Hoping that this post is not troll, I would suggest that before one starts proposing scientific tests for transubstantiation, one should first understand...
