The pictures that accompany this post are located at: http://www.godsriddle.info/2011/12/first-principle.html A metaphysic deals with questions like: what are...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 3, 2011 12:48 am
... Randy C: Victor, I claim that you suffer from delusions. One symptom of people who suffer from delusions is that they refuse to answer questions about...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 3, 2011 2:04 am
... Once a first principle is accepted as self evident by the educated in a culture, it is never discoursed about. It is simply accept as self evident by those...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 3, 2011 3:02 am
... Randy C: Gee, Victor. I don't see a quote. So we see that there is not a SINGLE person in the history of Western civilization - other than those obviously...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 3, 2011 4:52 am
... Again people don't question their foundational assumptions -0 they simply assume it as self evident - but it didn't used to be that way. All people at one...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 3, 2011 8:12 pm
... Randy C: No Victor, that's what YOU don't do. There is NO foundational assumption to question!!! How do we know? Because there is not a single person who...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 3, 2011 11:45 pm
... How do you think science started? The Greeks were not able to find a way to invent science without using first principles. Yet their first principles did...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 4, 2011 4:59 am
... Randy C: Wrong and wrong. First, this supposed "first principle" of yours is mythical. NO ONE has ever believed that matter cannot change. Even Aristotle...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 5, 2011 12:59 am
... All modern scientists believe that matter does not change AS IT AGES. They believe in the intrinsic imutablity of what matter IS - its BEING> ... Indeed,...
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isaac
isaac3rd2000
Dec 5, 2011 2:50 am
... isaac: Well, at least THAT much is true. No one has ever seen Victor question *his* primary assumptions. Even when called into question by virtually every...
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isaac
isaac3rd2000
Dec 5, 2011 2:56 am
... isaac: They certainly don't believe matter gets younger. Since changing matter is a foundation of science (try doing chemistry without talking about how...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 5, 2011 12:52 pm
... Randy C: OF COURSE THEY DO!! What a delusional comment. Radioactive decay all about matter changing as it ages!!! Erosion is also about matter changing as...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 5, 2011 8:29 pm
... I use principles stated in the Bible as the basis for understanding the universe. Aquinas' philosophy centers on esse (the Latin verb "to be"). Essentially...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 6, 2011 12:10 am
... Randy C: NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The "false principle" is YOUR claim that science has some sort of principle that matter cannot change. That...
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Dave Oldridge
doldridg
Dec 6, 2011 4:47 pm
... People also never question assumptions they are not making. No need to. But when you LIE about the assumptions people make, we question your LIES and we...
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Dave Oldridge
doldridg
Dec 6, 2011 4:49 pm
... This is a LIE, Victor. You keep telling it, so it is clear that the sin is YOURS and that you are doing it on purpose. This bars you from ever entering...
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isaac
isaac3rd2000
Dec 6, 2011 5:07 pm
Place your bets now on how long it will take Victor to post the latest version of the never-ending essay noting this discovery, complete with denunciations of...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 6, 2011 6:22 pm
The web page at http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2011/11/twenty_years_after_darwin_on_t.php has an article matching the subject of this post. It says ...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 6, 2011 9:20 pm
... Dave, you are using the very assumption I am arguing with to define your symbolical version of reality and then circling back again to use that same...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 6, 2011 9:28 pm
... If it is a lie, then why do you believe the lie and keep on defining reality with scientific notions about immutable matter that dithers with perpetual...
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newsentry
Dec 6, 2011 11:01 pm
... Victor - Lets review. You said "the Earth spreads out in unbroken continuity. Planets cannot double in size unless the properties of matter are emerging -...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 6, 2011 11:40 pm
... Randy C: But no rational person believes that this assumption exists!!! The sum total of your argument that it DOES exist is: It explains why no one else...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 6, 2011 11:45 pm
... Randy C: Victor, YOU are the one who believes in lies. Ancient atoms are exactly like modern atoms. It is a lie to believe otherwise. Many invisible...
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Matt O
ochs_matt
Dec 7, 2011 12:08 am
... MATT: Because there is a conspiracy. Scientists are trying to take over the world until God crushes their asses in one big swoop. WE can see hundreds of...
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VictorM
ptolemy1022
Dec 7, 2011 5:04 am
... Gen 1:9 clearly states that Elohim continued to say to the waters to be gathered into one place so that the dry land appeared. On the previous day He...
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Randy C
carumba17
Dec 7, 2011 12:42 pm
... Randy C: NO VICTOR! As is ALWAYS the case, YOU are the one who is LYING. How do we know? There are two ways. First of all, you ALWAYS insist that this...
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newsentry
Dec 7, 2011 4:10 pm
... Now Victor you are wrong on so many fronts that I was inclined to just walk away. Subduction is measured in centimeters a year. The filling of the trenches...
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Dave Oldridge
doldridg
Dec 7, 2011 7:05 pm
... This is just more of your false witness. You reject the most important principles stated in the Bible. -- Dave Oldridge Skype: daveoldridge Ham Radio:...
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Dave Oldridge
doldridg
Dec 7, 2011 7:16 pm
... No. I am not. The fact that you are too dense to understand what your own "theory" actually predicts is, however, noted. ... This is a flat lie. And it...
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Dave Oldridge
doldridg
Dec 7, 2011 7:20 pm
... And, instead of acknowledging and repenting his sin, Victor, the reprobate excommunicate simply repeats it. ... The continents fit together fine on the...
