... Randy C: If I've done that "numerous"; times, then you should be able to present at least one specific example. Right? This discussion forum includes a...
... Randy C: In fact, if you think about it, even the Star of Bethlehem mentioned in the book of Matthew is an indication of geocentrism. Here's Matthew 2:9 - ...
... You really think it was a literal star? quite amazing. Then I suppose when Satan was cast down to the Earth and his tail took a third of the stars with...
... Randy C: **I** think no such thing. Jesus wasn't even born in Bethlehem so there was no star - either literal or figurative. But there are many, many...
... Ancient astrologers were superstitious but they were not stupid. What they were probably watching was a conjunction of planets, not an actual star....
... [snip] ... He he he.. "cleverly"; evasive quip, huh? I guess it's as clever as trying to make an axe head floating as absurd as wood sinking... Ironwood ...
... Are you telling us that you think parts of the gospels are metaphorical rather than literal history? Could you give some more examples of bits of Matthew,...
... Silly claim again. Of course he was born in Bethlehem, he was born in Bethlehem in galilee. ... Just like the hebrews, isrealites and egyptians I suppose?...
... He was, according to scripture, born in Bethlehem which was, at the time, in Judea. His parents took Him away to Alexandria in Egypt to get away from...
... Um, Bethlehem is not, nor ever was, in Galilee. Bethlehem is about 9 km south of Jerusalem in *Judea* (now Occupied West Bank). Consult a map. Dave...
... I think that the town of bethlehem in judea would have been too far for a heavily pregnant woman to travel to, it would have taken several days and on foot...
... Randy C: On the contrary. There is probably over a 99% chance that Jesus was born and raised in Nazareth and not born in Bethlehem. I lay out the argument...
... I don't think it was a star at all. I think it was Jupiter. Tha Magi just happened to recognize the significance of it and where it was. After all, they...
... Randy C: If there are "many scholars" who support you, surely you should be able to reference at least one of them. Right? We seem to have yet another...
... [snip] ... Hmmm... but doesn't this happen over months, not hours? ... The text reads: "Instructed by the king, they set off. Then the star appeared again,...
... I understand what you're saying. You're saying that, according to your 'proper' reading of the Bible, God doesn't exist, but that the Devil does. Why do...
... Apparently GV doesn't think much of the account in Luke. Note it says: .... And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. And Joseph also went up...
... Sorry to beat a dead horse, but the Nativity account in Matthew also leaves no doubt that the Bethlehem of the Nativity is in Judea. Note: Now when Jesus...
... The actual stops are instantaneous. They don't last any length of time, thus permitting them to be correlated with a specific geographic longitude. ... ...
... But you are missing the point. Take the closest celestial body to the earth, the moon, look up at the moon one night and tell me which house it's over. You...
... Everyone knows there are plenty of metaphors in the gospels, and indeed the old testament. If you are not aware of this, you shouldn't even be in this...
... Or the enemy of Christ. If you read the descriptions of him, they seem to concur with what was seen. There are also example in scripture that angels can...
