Hi all, I have been reading this forum with great interest and was hoping that a bugging question could be answered with regards to creationism. I take it that...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 3, 2009 5:26 pm
... That surely depends on how you classify complexity and who is doing the judging. Something complex to you and I could be childs play to a far more...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 3, 2009 5:36 pm
I have read a few posts regarding DNA and how these chemical bondings ensure the progression of a species. I have read on various sites also how science...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 3, 2009 5:57 pm
... That's because it is complicated and many of the details are unknown. The conditions for creating an atomic explosion were well- known as well. But many...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 3, 2009 6:12 pm
... Actually, complexity is not an arbitrary thing. It CAN be measured objectively. Computers connected to the Internet routinely compress files. They do so...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 3, 2009 6:50 pm
... Engineers do indeed reuse design components. I've been an engineer for more than 40 years so I have some personal experience I can hopefully add here. Why...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 3, 2009 9:53 pm
... It isn't so much about life existing elsewhere, it's more to do with living cells being scooped up by an asteroid or comet and then escaping that planets...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 3, 2009 10:15 pm
... But that's the difference between our ability and the ability of a being if we were designed. We would have to reinvent the wheel and it would be...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 3, 2009 10:24 pm
... In fact we have meteorites on Earth from places like Mars. What happens is that a planet is stuck by a very large meteorite and debris from that collision...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 3, 2009 11:38 pm
... No, you're missing the point. The wheel works. So no one redesigns it. That's because the redesign may not work. But **IF** the designer was omniscient,...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 12:52 am
... My credentials are exactly the same as yours. We have a series of connections in our brain and we feed certain data into it and see what it concludes. You...
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Alan Saunders
kaptainkobold
Aug 4, 2009 1:20 am
... Now who's being deceptive ......
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 4, 2009 1:25 am
... Maybe. Maybe not. But that is utterly besides the point. I was asking you to compare YOUR credentials to those of Francis Crick. He is a Nobel Laureate...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 1:26 am
... Nope. No one redesigns the wheel because they are unable to. If they could then they would. This is a binding by our intelligence. The wheel has flaws, it...
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Todd S. Greene
greeneto
Aug 4, 2009 1:40 am
This is EXACTLY the same kind of false, irrational rhetoric that young earth creationists use (indeed, there is a recent example of this kind of rhetoric from...
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Alan Saunders
kaptainkobold
Aug 4, 2009 12:24 pm
... "I cannot accept that all land animals evolved from a fish however, that's taking it too far." So what do you, *personally*, based on your research, think...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 4, 2009 2:13 pm
... First of all, the expression "Don't redesign the wheel" is just that - an expression. When engineers use that expression they are not actually talking...
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Dave Oldridge
doldridg
Aug 4, 2009 3:05 pm
... In the beginning there was a cell. It divided and there were two. Which is the original? The answer is variously, both and neither. My point here is...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 5:46 pm
... believing both sides have valid points is not deception....
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 4, 2009 5:52 pm
... The problem is that both sides don't have equally valid points. Your argument in favor of design seems to be that since we cannot PROVE there is no...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 6:37 pm
... interesting point. I have never looked at it that way before. How often do we have offspring and hear people say how they see the parents in them....
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 6:37 pm
... No but the creationists do have some evidence. Like I said before they have text books also, dating back thousands of years. Do you think people from that...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 6:37 pm
... You keep pulling me to one side of the fence without mentioning the other side. Let's see what the alternative (evol) says. Just over a hundred years ago,...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 6:37 pm
... You really should get out more. Sitting behind text books shuts you off from the real world and you have no clue as to what really occurs. I can tell you...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 4, 2009 6:54 pm
... Like what? I've been debating creationists and I've never seen a single piece of evidence IN FAVOR of creationism. If you look at what creationists say,...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 4, 2009 7:11 pm
... What are you talking about? The origin of life is NOT evolution. The first life form could have come from chemicals in the ocean, from outer space or even...
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skrogh
panterragroup
Aug 4, 2009 7:29 pm
... This is in fact, all that the ID movement is, as stressed by their own people, but not nearly enough, since so many followers believe differently. It is...
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nuttypiglet
Aug 4, 2009 7:42 pm
... common sense tells me that is a creator exists and resides outside this universe, how can they possibly create a theory based on scientific tests. But...
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Randy Crum
carumba17
Aug 4, 2009 7:52 pm
... Experts are still humans. All humans are imperfect. I've had bad experiences with physicians as well, but I'm not going to consult with the town drunk...
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skrogh
panterragroup
Aug 4, 2009 7:53 pm
... Well common sense used to tell people that the earth was flat. Regardless, my point to Randy was not whether or not a designer exists, but rather to not be...
