I am so very glad that you engage in discussion in this forum. Please stay! I want you to know that you are most welcome here. As a young earth creationist, you give everyone a perfect object lesson.
Now, Gary, did I write those in Chinese, or are you dyslexic?
I repeat again, those two posts are about SN1987A, and the fact that SN1987A, in showing the antiquity of the universe, shows that the doctrine of young earth creationism is wrong. Because of such astronomical observations (astronomy, not geology) as SN1987A, astronomy is a big problem for young earth creationism. Even the shenanigan-master Marion Fox acknowledges this fact. But along comes the YEC Gary Smith who is so much more obstinate than even a YEC like Marion Fox that he cannot even bring himself to admit that SN1987A is a problem for YEC doctrine. I cited Allan Turner simply as an example of the fact that YECs acknowledge that SN1987A is a serious problem for YEC, which is something you were earlier using deception about by trying to pretend that SN1987A is not any kind of problem.
Even my 7-year-old son knows the difference between astronomy and geology, so, Gary, surely you can figure out the difference.
Oh my, how tangled your web is!
Regards, Todd S. Greene
###### Gary Smith ###### > On and oN and on you go. Make a precisley stated case and I > will reply. I am not interested in what Turner says. I am > interested in data that establishes premises from which > ligitimate conclusions may be reached. All I have seen is what > people say and no relevant data. Give me the means by which > erosion rates are determined and then demonstrate that those > means have been consistenlty applied to indicate age of certain > craters...---Waiting.-------Gary
I repeat---give me a major premise wehreby errosion rates are determined and systematically applied to relevant data. Then draw the necessary conclusions form that data. I have read the material which you referenced. No major premises with deductive conclusions are presentes--just he said--she said.---Gary
The following excerpt is taken from Gary's post to BereanSpirit. It follows my signature. I do have a suggestion for Gary. Please edit your copying of...
... It is clearly not lacking in precision - and if I were to criticise it, it would be to point out that it is trivially false and that Todd would win without...
... Your proposition here takes on the form of A--->~B which transposes to B-->~A, thus nothing proven. Todd, the form you use is the only form that is...
... I can except that as a reconstruction although I would point out that it is highly unlikely that the proposition was intended in the strict meaning above. ...
... I can except that as a reconstruction although I would point out that it is highly unlikely that the proposition was intended in the strict meaning above. ...
... I see no name-calling. ... Since we know that you ARE aware that Todd HAS offered to discuss the age of the Earth we know that your statement is a lie. ......
... I do not see why a debate would NEED to cover everything. Any attempt to do so would surely be unworkable. Why not start with a simple, clear issue as...
Hi, Gary. Did you read what I explained about this YEC argument? Here it is ... I cited the proposition as an example of something I will debate and/or discuss...
Good morning Todd, Maybe you are already preparing a comment about my wizardry in that logic analysis I posted last night, while I write this note. I was ...
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Hi, Gary. I notice that you have ignored this post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/creationism/message/5303 Since, in the case of the specific example SN1987A,...
Hi, Gary. You are so typically YEC! I love it! Obtuseness to the nth degree! The religious doctrine of young earth creationism, as per fundamentalist...
Hi, Gary. Two years ago, Allan Turner, who is a young earth creationist and a ... (I would give you the internet references to the discussion archive, but...
Hi, Gary. Wow! You're web is getting even more tangled than I had imagined you could make it! I think you are quite capable of keeping SN1987A (related to ...
Hi, Gary. I am so very glad that you engage in discussion in this forum. Please stay! I want you to know that you are most welcome here. As a young earth...
Hi, Gary. Looks like my 7-year-old son has a greater understanding of these subjects than you do. This just goes to show how YEC incoherencies scramble the...
... No major premises with deductive conclusions are presented--just he said--she said. ... ################################## My comments: Gary, there can be...
Todd Greene, wrote, in reference to Gary and YEC's in general, "What a tangled web you guys weave, because you practice..." ###################### My comments:...
Gary wrote, in relevant part: "The posts that you have sent me as well as the articles written by others make no attempt to establish a major premise. Marion...
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