Hi, Gary.

You are obstinately ignoring the fact that the premise was yours.
Here, yet again, is what you wrote (4/14/02, post #5008):

>> Why do we have so many craters that show almost no
>> erosion? There is not a single crater that has enough erosion to
>> even indicate 20,000 years of wear.

As I have pointed out before -- which you are quite obstinately and
intentionally ignoring, even though I know you know better -- it is
you who stated the premise, and it is your premise that is false.
Now, Gary, you claim to be a Christian. Are you going to follow your
own Christian morality and acknowledge the fact that your claim is
false, or are you going to follow typical YEC behavior and
obstinately deny that your statement is erroneous?

Incidentally, many of the links I provided in this post

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/creationism/message/5012

provide actual photos of many of these craters. Anyone who looks can
see for themselves that in fact with such craters as the Panther
Mountain Crater and the Manicouagan Crater are not really craters at
all. What we see are geological features that have developed over
millions of years on what used to be craters.

But, please, Gary, please continue to demonstrate your obstinacy in
this matter to everyone. This is indeed precisely how YECs
demonstrate to everyone that young earth creationists are not
genuinely interested in the truth. This is what I learned about you
guys 20 years ago, and this fundamental dishonesty is precisely why I
walked away from YEC.

Regards,
Todd S. Greene
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/7755/


###### Gary Smith ######
> Dear Todd: A Major premise to support the articles sent by you
> was not given. I suggest that if you wnat to converse that you
> give data from which the conclusion may be derived as to age. Now,
> if you will give a Major premise that begins to explain the
> process by which erosion and age are correlated to the impacts I
> will happily respond. YOu have given nothing to respond to. Major
> premise please. Waiting--waiting--waiting!!!--Gary


> greeneto <tgreene@a...> wrote:
>> Hi, Gary.
>>
>> And now with the Earth impact craters you are ignoring both what
>> you already wrote previously as well as my direct response to
>> what you wrote. Here's my post:
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/creationism/message/5357
>>
>> Gary, you know that you made the false statement
>>
>>> Why do we have so many craters that show almost no
>>> erosion? There is not a single crater that has enough erosion
>>> to even indicate 20,000 years of wear.
>>
>> and now you are obstinately refusing to acknowledge the fact that
>> you made this false statement and that I have directly addressed
>> it.
>>
>> Golly, is the Church of Christ in your neck of the woods giving
>> special YEC classes on "How To Be Totally Obstinate In Error"
>> these days?
>>
>> The premise was yours. I simply showed factually that your
>> premise was completely wrong. Since I have personally visited
>> any of these craters, yes I do have to quote others about it.
>> Are you now pretending that we aren't supposed to cite
>> independent authorities? Typical YEC games!
>
> Regards,
> Todd S. Greene
>
>
> ###### Gary Smith, 5/8/02 ######
>> Dear Todd: The posts that you have sent me as well as the
>> articles written by others make no attempt to establish a major
>> premise. The material you sent me regarding craters had
>> absolutely no major premise to establish their claim of age.
>> Absolutely nothing---just one man qouting from another who
>> himself gave no premise. You seem to think you establish your
>> case by quoting from someone.
> [snip]