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Integrity from a YEC? Absolutely Not!

Hi, Gary.

I see that Paul asked the question, "I wonder if [Gary] will have the
integrity to apologise for that error?", referring to the fact that
you ignored the third proposition example I stated, which was:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/creationism/message/5237

> Proposition: The geological features of earth impact craters
> prove that the earth has been in existence for millions of years.
>
> Affirm: Todd S. Greene
> Deny: Gary Smith

Instead, you continue to lie when you write, "Now, who will sign a
proposition concerning the geological impact of the flood and the age
of the earth. UH --huh. Still silence only."

So your clear answer to Paul's question is: Absolutely not!

Regards,
Todd S. Greene
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/7755/


###### Gary Smith ######
> Paul Andrew King <paul@m...> wrote:
[snip]
>> It is clearly not lacking in precision - and if I were to
>> criticise it, it would be to point out that it is trivially
>> false and that Todd would win without any significant debate.
>> So far as I can see Gary's claim is a strong indication that he
>> paid no attention at all to what the propositions actually were
>> (which would explain how he managed to miss the fact that the
>> third was explicitly about the age of the Earth - I wonder if he
>> will have the integrity to apologise for that error?)
>>
>> Paul K.
>
> -- I have no problem, since I didn't clarify myself, thus I have
> done so here. Now, who will sign a proposition concerning the
> geological impact of the flood and the age of the earth.
> UH --huh. Still silence only. I am not surprised.------Gary
>
> I am not interested in discussing the age of the universe
> because I do not claim that it is young--neither do I claim that
> it is old. The challenge is for someone to discuss publicly the
> age of the earth and the geological impact of the flood. It is
> eveident that no one is up to the task. I have made several posts
> stating that I am not in disagreement with others on the age of
> the universe, so why would I discuss that with which I am in no
> disagreement. As I stated before I do not believe that Marion
> contends for a young universe, but of that I am not sure. He can
> speak for himself.




Fri May 3, 2002 1:52 pm

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The following excerpt is taken from Gary's post to BereanSpirit. It follows my signature. I do have a suggestion for Gary. Please edit your copying of...
rlbaty50
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May 2, 2002
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... It is clearly not lacking in precision - and if I were to criticise it, it would be to point out that it is trivially false and that Todd would win without...
Paul Andrew King
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May 2, 2002
10:43 pm

... Your proposition here takes on the form of A--->~B which transposes to B-->~A, thus nothing proven. Todd, the form you use is the only form that is...
g smith
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May 2, 2002
11:47 pm

... I can except that as a reconstruction although I would point out that it is highly unlikely that the proposition was intended in the strict meaning above. ...
Paul Andrew King
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May 3, 2002
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... I can except that as a reconstruction although I would point out that it is highly unlikely that the proposition was intended in the strict meaning above. ...
g smith
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May 3, 2002
11:31 pm

... I see no name-calling. ... Since we know that you ARE aware that Todd HAS offered to discuss the age of the Earth we know that your statement is a lie. ......
Paul Andrew King
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May 4, 2002
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Paul Andrew King <paul@...> wrote: >Gary here: Here we go with the name calling again. I see no name-calling. ... Since we know that you ARE...
g smith
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May 5, 2002
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... I do not see why a debate would NEED to cover everything. Any attempt to do so would surely be unworkable. Why not start with a simple, clear issue as...
Paul Andrew King
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May 5, 2002
2:21 pm

Hi, Gary. Did you read what I explained about this YEC argument? Here it is ... I cited the proposition as an example of something I will debate and/or discuss...
greeneto
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May 3, 2002
1:43 pm

Good morning Todd, Maybe you are already preparing a comment about my wizardry in that logic analysis I posted last night, while I write this note. I was ...
rlbaty50
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May 3, 2002
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Hi, Gary. I see that Paul asked the question, "I wonder if [Gary] will have the integrity to apologise for that error?", referring to the fact that you ignored...
greeneto
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May 3, 2002
1:52 pm

Hi, Gary. I know that you would love to ignore SN1987A, and astronomy in general, since it disproves your doctrine. But since the universe has been in...
greeneto
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May 3, 2002
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Hi, Gary. I notice that you have ignored this post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/creationism/message/5303 Since, in the case of the specific example SN1987A,...
greeneto
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May 6, 2002
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greeneto <tgreene@...> wrote: Hi, Gary. I notice that you have ignored this post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/creationism/message/5303 Since, in...
g smith
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May 8, 2002
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Hi, Gary. You are so typically YEC! I love it! Obtuseness to the nth degree! The religious doctrine of young earth creationism, as per fundamentalist...
greeneto
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May 8, 2002
4:06 pm

Hi, Gary. Two years ago, Allan Turner, who is a young earth creationist and a ... (I would give you the internet references to the discussion archive, but...
greeneto
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May 8, 2002
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greeneto <tgreene@...> wrote: Hi, Gary. Two years ago, Allan Turner, who is a young earth creationist and a ... (I would give you the internet...
g smith
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11:28 pm

Hi, Gary. Wow! You're web is getting even more tangled than I had imagined you could make it! I think you are quite capable of keeping SN1987A (related to ...
greeneto
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g smith <logicsearch@...> wrote: greeneto <tgreene@...> wrote: Hi, Gary. Two years ago, Allan Turner, who is a young earth creationist and a ...
g smith
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Hi, Gary. I am so very glad that you engage in discussion in this forum. Please stay! I want you to know that you are most welcome here. As a young earth...
greeneto
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May 13, 2002
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greeneto <tgreene@...> wrote: Hi, Gary. I am so very glad that you engage in discussion in this forum. Please stay! I want you to know that you are...
g smith
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Hi, Gary. Looks like my 7-year-old son has a greater understanding of these subjects than you do. This just goes to show how YEC incoherencies scramble the...
greeneto
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May 13, 2002
4:21 pm

... No major premises with deductive conclusions are presented--just he said--she said. ... ################################## My comments: Gary, there can be...
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Todd Greene, wrote, in reference to Gary and YEC's in general, "What a tangled web you guys weave, because you practice..." ###################### My comments:...
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Gary wrote, in relevant part: "The posts that you have sent me as well as the articles written by others make no attempt to establish a major premise. Marion...
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