Unto my Friends,

If any technical help is required or even some programming for the page I
can help out.


Llewyn


At 03:43 PM 6/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Now another question I raise, out of interest, for the folks of Cragmere
>is...
>
>           ARE WE GOING TO BE PUTTING UP A WEB SITE ??
>
>
>As a matter of fact we are hoping to have one up soon. Our essteemed
>cronicler has been designing one for a bit and is away on holiday for a
>few weeks. She was experiencing some technical difficulties but as she
>and her wonderful staff ( aka her family and friends) they have all the
>techy knowledge they need I think.
>
>As for pictures I am sure our resident Lady Zoe Soulcatcher would love
>to Capture a few souls if we ask her nicely.
>
>Please, please, please Lady Zoe......
>
>Rava von Gravenbrook
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Most worthy and noble citizens of Cragmere.

I most humbly beseech thee, consider with great care to which
movie you do pledge thy loyality, for that same favor may
influence the choice of young and impressionable minds.
And so it is that I put forth the name of The Princess Bride
as worthy of thine favor.

My first argument is that comedy and tragedy must be combined
in the correct portions to "maketh warm the herte".

My second argument is, that by means of excellent effect the
remembrance of said movie, doth linger. "My name is ....."

And finally, it doth touch the heart of young and old,
all in equal measure.

Submited this day for your consideration,
reann


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Thank you for the reminder, Lady Halima.  All events, meetings etc. until the
end of August have been put into the Cragmere calendar here at our egroup site. 
I would like to remind one and all to check the calendar periodically, though it
sends out reminders prior to events to all Cragmere egroup subscribers (one day
prior to meetings, one week prior to events).  Anyone can add events to the
Cragmere calendar or transfer or add events to your personal egroup calendar. 
Isn't this site awesome!

Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/cragmere/?start=26
> <z>Hi, can you add the following event to your calendar?</z>
>
> Event: Cragmere Anniversary
> Date: Sat Jul 24, 1999
> Time: 12:00 pm - 12:00 am
> Description: The Cragmere Anniversary will include Highland Games (wrestling,
tug-of-war, boulder toss, running, drinking -not necessarily alcohol-, and
bardic) and an Arts and Sciences display (for everyone to contribute, whether or
not pieces are finished... Do it to tell everyone what you've been working on,
or to get feedback, or to seek out potential customers for medieval work). The
Highland Games are held to choose a Champion of Cragmere, who will then carry
the Cragmere Blade and represent us until the next one is chosen in a year
(competitors must sign in before 12:45pm). The tickets ($14 for adults) include
a wonderful feast. See milady Rava or Lady Halima. (Sales close July 17th)
>
> Archers! On the Sunday will be held an informal tournament, site yet to be
decided. Contact milord Charles at 703-0494.
>
> To add this event to your personal calendar, simply click on this link:
> http://www.egroups.com/cal?md=accept&eid=114689
>
> If you have any other comments, you can reply to this message.
>
> eGroups.com Calendar
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Now another question I raise, out of interest, for the folks of Cragmere
is...

            ARE WE GOING TO BE PUTTING UP A WEB SITE ??


As a matter of fact we are hoping to have one up soon. Our essteemed
cronicler has been designing one for a bit and is away on holiday for a
few weeks. She was experiencing some technical difficulties but as she
and her wonderful staff ( aka her family and friends) they have all the
techy knowledge they need I think.

As for pictures I am sure our resident Lady Zoe Soulcatcher would love
to Capture a few souls if we ask her nicely.

Please, please, please Lady Zoe......

Rava von Gravenbrook

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Unto the denizens of Cragmere does Halima send greetings.

Milord Llew asks, "... should speaking forsoothly be the goal of our
tongues?  Or should speaking in period?..." In two parts I make reply.

Tis true that not all are skilled in the languages, but as we are a
medieval society, does it not behoove us to make the attempt to speak
Early Modern English? Methinks few, if any, wouldst be able to carry
conversation to a great extent (with or without bucket), but can we not
still make that attempt? (Betimes I am happy unto sufficiency that mine
ears hear not of things post-1600 when at feasts, whilst bedazzled by
blades, bards and bosoms.)

(Bluntly, the SCA is about attempting to recreate the skills, technologies,
and some of the better customs of the middle ages; I think that includes
the speech patterns. ***However... I appreciate anyone's attempt to speak
Early Modern English... ***But I am just happy to not hear about things
like cars and computers when we are all dressed up and at an event. I can
talk about computers anywhere, but the medieval stuff... NOT anywhere!)

Salaam 'alaikum
Halima

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<z>Hi, can you add the following event to your calendar?</z>

Event: Cragmere Anniversary
Date: Sat Jul 24, 1999
Time: 12:00 pm - 12:00 am
Description: The Cragmere Anniversary will include Highland Games (wrestling,
tug-of-war, boulder toss, running, drinking -not necessarily alcohol-, and
bardic) and an Arts and Sciences display (for everyone to contribute, whether or
not pieces are finished... Do it to tell everyone what you've been working on,
or to get feedback, or to seek out potential customers for medieval work). The
Highland Games are held to choose a Champion of Cragmere, who will then carry
the Cragmere Blade and represent us until the next one is chosen in a year
(competitors must sign in before 12:45pm). The tickets ($14 for adults) include
a wonderful feast. See milady Rava or Lady Halima. (Sales close July 17th)

Archers! On the Sunday will be held an informal tournament, site yet to be
decided. Contact milord Charles at 703-0494.

To add this event to your personal calendar, simply click on this link:
http://www.egroups.com/cal?md=accept&eid=114689

If you have any other comments, you can reply to this message.

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>From: John Tsangaris <apollo@...>
>Reply-To: cragmere@egroups.com
>To: cragmere@egroups.com
>Subject: [cragmere] Re: e-mail etiquette
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:06:12 -0700
>
>M'lord,
And I assume, a fellow Scot,
>But I would like to ask one question for the masses... should speaking
>forsoothly be the goal of our tongues?  Or should speaking in period?  I
>care not either way though I'm sure once in a while a good ole slip 'o the
>tongue may do us a wee bit o good, laddie!
>
>*cough*

Always and forever!!!!
>
>But I might also be wrong... perhaps speaking forsoothly dost encompass all
>manners of the english language.   If someone knows, I pray that you would
>enlighten me.  :) <--- forsoothly happy

It does, however, speaking forsoothly is more like poetry and therefore more
beautiful and ageless. (Comme Shakespeare).  I should know, it's a bugger to
do the speech, laddie.  And I've been around for 13 years.

Glad you enjoyed Egils so much.  June Faire was fabulous as well.

Yours in service to An Tir and Cragmere,

Lady Antonia Mckenzie Rose Fraser, House Inverness
>
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Greetings unto the Shire of Cragmere,

May I say, without sounding gushing and foolish (uh huh), that my wonderful
family and friends continually delight and make me proud to be of Cragmerion
descent.  Truly, my friends, you have style.  The idea of speaking
forsoothly as much as possible is wonderful(and Lady Antonia could sure use
practice even after 13 years of being in the SCA-can't you tell!!!)and I
know this news-page will be a fabulous hit with many.  Yes, I know I AM
gushing, but who can help it when faced with such magnificence?

I may live in Seagirt, but I am still at least half Cragmerion.

In service to An Tir and to Cragmere,
Lady Antonia McKenzie Rose Fraser, House Inverness (Hoy!!!)


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Greetings my fellow Cragmereiens from Rhys.

I must say that one SCA-ish movie I must emphasize has to be "Monty Python
and the Holy Grail" when you look at the early history of    AnTir the
tremendous impact (the numerous times I've heard 'RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!') of
quotes that have become so much of the kingdoms vocabulary. And may the gods
never forget the great flying ...COCONUT that has become one of our great
beasts' of legend.

Other SCA-ish films I would include is:
   -the 3-part 'Ivanhoe' mini-series.
For the swishy-pokes:
   -Richard Lester's 'The Three Musketeers' &
   -'Four Musketeers: Milady's Revenge' (both were made in 72/73)
   -'Cyreno d'Bergerac' with Gerard d'Pardieu.
Also we should include:
   -Kenneth Branaugh's 'Henry V' (to see what knighthood should be).
   -and Awwnnyy's 'Conan the Barbarian' (or what knighthood is).

Now another question I raise, out of interest, for the folks of Cragmere
is...

            ARE WE GOING TO BE PUTTING UP A WEB SITE ??

It would be great if we could have pictures up of Cragmere in all its
splender and glory, and not be put to shame by the gentle vikings (note the
obvious oxymoron) of Ravenspeak.

            Well those are my thoughts, how bout you?


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Greetings unto all Cragmerians and other friends who have joined our listserv:

WILLOW!!!  Okay, it is a fantasy, but really, am I the only one who loved that
movie, all five times!
Also add:  Braveheart, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, and of course Ever After
(my Mother's Day gift :-}  )
<19990606010628.rbwz18720.mail.rdc1.bc.home.co-@....\
com> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/cragmere/?start=19
> Hi Freydis here,
>
> Greetings all.
>
> Just on a note aside.....I was thinking about trying out the "poll"
> feature of this list.....thought maybe a poll of what folks most
> inspirational 'SCA"-ish movie might be fun.
>
> First I need some suggestions.
>
> Here's a few from folks over here:
>
> Erik the Viking
> Viking Sagas
> Everafter
> Princesss' Bride
> Lady Hawk
> Highlander I
>
> Anyone have any other suggestions?
>
> Freydis Egilsdottir.
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First Knight/ Rob Roy/ Excaliber/ Robinhood Prince of Thieves/ Othello/ Much Ado
about Nothing
The Madness of King George/ Hilander II/ Merlin/ Man in the Iron Mask/ Royal
Deceit
Quest of the Delta Knights

...these are from my own collection....if you would like to know about any of
them, please let me know :)


~Whatever You Vividly Dream, Ardently Desire,
      Sincerely Believe & Enthusiastically ask for...
         ...Must Inevitably Come to Pass~
             Yours in humble Service,
                      - Aria deMezza Cartier
                 http//:www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/1882


Hi Freydis here,

  Greetings all.

  Just on a note aside.....I was thinking about trying out the "poll"
  feature of this list.....thought maybe a poll of what folks most
  inspirational 'SCA"-ish movie might be fun.

  First I need some suggestions.

  Here's a few from folks over here:

  Erik the Viking
  Viking Sagas
  Everafter
  Princess' Bride
  Lady Hawk
  Highlander I

  Anyone have any other suggestions?

  Freydis Egilsdottir.





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In the matter of medieval movies my list would have to start
BRAVEHEART(which is in my vcr as i write)What good scottish girl wouldn't pay
homage to the great will wallace especially played by mel gibson....tee hee

-Rob Roy
-Monty Python and the Holy Grail
-King Lear
-Dragonheart(fantasy but, fairly medieval)
-Macbeth
-Ivan Hoe
-Robin Hood
-Lion in Winter
-Name of the Rose
-Hamlet, and therefore,
-Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
I actually have been thinking about this a lot since i joined the SCA.
My list goes on but i will write more later.
I'm a movie buff so i just haunt video stores.
These are some of my faves.
-Margret


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Hi Freydis here,

Greetings all.

Just on a note aside.....I was thinking about trying out the "poll"
feature of this list.....thought maybe a poll of what folks most
inspirational 'SCA"-ish movie might be fun.

First I need some suggestions.

Here's a few from folks over here:

Erik the Viking
Viking Sagas
Everafter
Princesss' Bride
Lady Hawk
Highlander I

Anyone have any other suggestions?

Freydis Egilsdottir.

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Allow me to introduce mineself, I am Aria deMezza cartier and the Baronial
Chronicler for Terra Pomeria, Kingdom of An Tir.

I am looking forward to this list and hope it is filled with a vast aray of
ideas, thoughts and delightful conversation.

~Whatever You Vividly Dream, Ardently Desire,
      Sincerely Believe & Enthusiastically ask for...
         ...Must Inevitably Come to Pass~
             Yours in humble Service,
                      - Aria deMezza Cartier
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To the genteel lords and ladies of Cragmere, one and all:

To the genteel folk of Cragmere I bid "Good day"

In the matter of a letter received from the most honourable
Llew Silverhand and his comments contained within on speach.

M'Lord Llew writes:
>But I would like to ask one question for the masses... should speaking
>forsoothly be the goal of our tongues?  Or should speaking in period?

And my response:
Full and most joyest blessing be apon thee if speaking in period is
among thy talents. But I pray thee, in using Middle English,
Gaelic or even Latin - take pity on a poor soul such as myself,
and provide a translation. Tis only late period English that
is easily understood by me.  Should we learn period languages?
Of course! But for myself I have only but begun with a few
short poems and songs. And muche practice in the speche.

With warm regards,
      reann




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Greetings unto my Friends and Friends to be,


On the cragmere@egroups site you will find a small link called "contacts".
I have modified the table a little to suite us better (Sorry Annie.. you're
gonna have to go back and add a little more.... if you want. ;) )

This table includes:

First Name, Last Name, Office or Role, SCA Name, Phone Number, Street
Address, City, Email address, Interests, Hobbies


You may fill in as much or as little of this as you would like.  I have
asked someone that is not on the list to go to the url that displays all
this information and they told me they could not see any of it... meaning
the information we place there is private and only viewable by the members
of the cragmereian list.

Also.. the difference between interests and hobbies is an interest is
something you don't do that you are interested in and a hobby is something
you do do ( I assume you are interested in that also. ;) ).


As a suggestion.. perhaps we could enter the info for all cragmereians..
(minus the info that they wish not to be displayed).  This way when we need
ideas for events or if someone wishes to run a art & sciences night on
something we could see who would be interested.  Or it could act like a
Shire phonebook.  I believe a list like this already exists but it may be
handy if it's available to all cragmereians.

Again.. it's only a brain storm not-thought-out idea.. so please feel free
to shoot it down or puff it up as you see fit. ;)


Also.. there is a calendar for the group(which has a few entries already..
thanks Annie. :) (I think that was you.) ).  There is also a personal
calendar ( i haven't tried this yet ).  AAAAnnndddeth.. there is a links
section.  If you enter a link I would ask that you give it a meaningful
name that someone else that sees it would know what they should expect when
they click on it.

There is also a files section (called the vault.. which has already been
broken into by Lord Mikhail Heimdallson.  Go take a look. ;) )  You may
upload files or pictures for all to share.

If you have any questions please email me.. and I will give you an answer
resembling the truth. ;)

And now my business is done.  I thank thee all for the patience thou has
extended in putting up with my ramblings.



Written by both of my hands,

Llewyn



PS  Please forgive my somewhat sense of humour in my writings.. I suffer
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Hailsa Cragmereians!

I send greeting and good tidings.

Knowing that soon you will host a hammer workshop, I have deposited a pic of
said workmanship, in your files directory, crafted here at my home, under the
direction of Triton (my lady made this one)

It awaits ducttaping, but does plainly show the construction elements...

And to the maker of this list, I gift you this:

Hardy the hero who created for cragmere
Listless not, the lair of this list
Keenly he crafted it, and keeps it still
My your name hear "Skoal"! from skinkers by hundreds.


till the wife-bereaver brings me nearer,

Lord Mikhail Heimdallson,
House Ravenspeak,
http://members.home.net/rvnspeak/


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Greetings my Friends and Friends to be,


I do agree with M'Lady Reann.  A skill must be learned and a tongue must be
practised for either to do any justice.

But I would like to ask one question for the masses... should speaking
forsoothly be the goal of our tongues?  Or should speaking in period?  I
care not either way though I'm sure once in a while a good ole slip 'o the
tongue may do us a wee bit o good, laddie!

*cough*

But I might also be wrong... perhaps speaking forsoothly dost encompass all
manners of the english language.   If someone knows, I pray that you would
enlighten me.  :) <--- forsoothly happy


On a side note... Egils was a complete blast.  Apparently Egils is a person
(I know not who) of some Norse background.  (Mythical?   Perhaps).  I have
an event copy (minus the last two pages - waiver and registration form)
that I would gladly submit to the masses to learn a little more or that event.


Written by my hand, and my other hand,

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My Lords and Ladies, pray attend,

It is my pleasure and my duty to lead us all in better understanding of
a gentler way of speach.

From all manner of diverse materials am I drawing together knowledge
whereby we may be enriched.

I do urge you to find upon your shelves manuscripts bearing words
arranged in this genteel way.  Bring them forth to our meeting that we
may aquaint ourselves with masterly words penned in such flowing speech.

As you prepair for the comming gathering, do take into mind thr first
hard and fast rule. . . have thee fun!

Until anon,

Lady Zoe, Soulcatcher




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I think Reann's idea is superb (obviously I need practise).  I would therefore
like to remind all interested Cragmerians that "Speaking Forsoothly" will be
June 23's A&S class at Karen's.  Thanks, Reann!  :-)


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Unto the good gentles of Cragmere, fair greetings.

Indeed, milady Reann speaketh in wisdom. I, too, wouldst appreciate the
opportunity to practise mine tongue, that in time t'will flow trippingly
off the tongue. Be there others of like mind?

And as one of the SCA, wouldst truly be appropriate to speak, nay, write
in chivalric tones of ultimate courtesy and respect.

For those who wish to visit upon matters not Cragmerian, might I suggest
that after initial contact, those few talk privately? I, too, have been
recipient to talks of boots and net stockings, when my needs be far more
prosaic.

Milady Reann speaketh of length, and there, too, I agree. Once the
writer has written twenty or thirty lines, perhaps that should be
submitted to the newsletter... Or to consider it. Many of us must needs
read many missives, and shorter be more pleasurable in most respects.

Thanks be unto thee, milord Llew, that thou seest fit to take upon
thineself these labours of writing.

In Service to An Tir and The Dream (tm)
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To the genteel lords and ladies of Cragmere, one and all:

Good day and warm wishes.

     I beseech thee, let us give thanks to Llew Silverhand for this service
unto Cragmere,
that distance shall not hamper our exchange of news.  As thou knowest, we
are beginning
anew, and can set the tone and quality of this newsgroup to our own desires.

     I would then, like to put forth the following ideas for your
consideration.

1. That the tone of our postings convey courtesy and respect.

2. That we shall attempt to write forsoothly.  For truly, tis in the act of
writing,
       that we may pause to consider our words.  Thus to practice, that with
the passing
       of time, it shall become a simple thing to do.

3. That the principle purpose of this listserve be: to convey or to request
information,
      relevant to matters medieval and of interest to Cragmerians.

4. That our letters be of moderate length and to the point.

Milords and miladies, I thank thee and I do bid thee adieu.

                             In Servyce
                                     Reann




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I had looked quite forward to this A&S night and am disappointed to have missed
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From: Shade <cameron@...>
>
> To all Interested,
>
>             The Hammer and Javelin Workshop that was
> scheduled for
> Thursday June 3rd is being postponed until Tuesday
> June 8th, due to unavoidable circumstances (Triton
> has a broken down
> vehicle).  Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> Hammer workshop detail for Tuesday June 8rd.
> Time: 7:00pm
> Place: Genava & Ketill's new abode
>
> 2005 Widgeon Rd. Qualicum Beach.
> Ph.250-752-7322 (Please call to confirm your coming
> to the workshop,  I
> need to make sure I have enough materials)
>
> PVC End Caps, PVC piping and cell foam will be
> provided for a minimal
> fee.
> what people need for the course:
>
> From North:
>     Coming down on the new highway take the turn off
> to Qualicum Beach,
> Coombs, Port Alberni  the main road down to
> the waterfront.  Turn left at the Payless Gas
> Station.  You will need to
> travel about  6 km down this road (drive over a
> bridge at about 3 km) and there will be a over head
> Railway Crossing
> sign and turn to your right and follow the gravel
> road and signs will guide you the rest of the way.
>
> From South:
>     Coming up on the new highway take the turn off
> to Qualicum Beach,
> Coombs, Port Alberni  the main road. Turn left
> and take main road down to the waterfront.  Turn
> left at the Payless Gas
> Station.  You will need to travel about  6 km
> down this road (drive over a bridge at about 3 km)
> and there will be a
> over head Railway Crossing sign and turn to your
> right and follow the gravel road and signs will
> guide you the rest of
> the way.
>
> What people need for the course:
>
>  Hammer
>  ------
>
>  3 tennis balls (used)
>  3/4" pref. packing/fiber tape.
>  duct tape (grey)
>  red duct tape for ends.
>  10-1/2" piece of 1" PVC Sch 40.
>  close cell foam.
>  Colored Duct tape/hockey tape... etc.
>
>
>  Javelin
>  --------
>
>  1 tennis ball (used)
>  3/4" pref. packing/fiber tape.
>  duct tape (grey)
>  red duct tape for ends.
>  3'-5' piece of 3/4" PVC Sch 40.
>  close cell foam.
>  Colored Duct tape/hockey tape... etc.
>
>  - I'll bring waxed poly/jute twine etc.
>  - triton/russ
>
>  ===
>  .-------.
>  : * i   :     His Lordship Triton Thutbup Hadek
> McDougal
>  :   I   :
>  \   I c /  Thee Mugwump @ 604.454.0960 Electric
> Pazzaazz 2
>   \ -+- /
>    \ I /     Est Sularis Oth Mithas - My Honour is
> my Life
>     \./
>
>             By the way my new email address is
> shade@...
> --
> Ketil Dagrsson
> Master of Stables - Hartwood.
> A new moon leads me to woods of dreams and I follow.
> A new world waits for me;  my dream, my way.
> mailto:shade@...
>
>
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I'm sure this will catch on, then I won't feel so isolated out here in Storrie
Beach land and you can visit with us wherever you are in An Tir - but that was
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