... falling apart owing to member turnover. In short, I agree that the practice endures and so does the community. ... community enduring. What am I missing?...
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John D. Smith
smithjd@...
Oct 1, 2000 7:41 pm
Chris, It would be easy to do. Interesting question. Could you say more? I would interpret the question to mean: What organizational, cultural and economic...
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Fred Nickols
nickols@...
Oct 1, 2000 8:14 pm
... Well, actually, I've blown away some CoPs by way of automation. At one company, the claims examiners were practically wiped out owing to the introduction...
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Chris Macrae
wcbn007@...
Oct 2, 2000 1:51 pm
... John, what was in my head was this. I come to CoP because I'm more than hopeful that there are lessons from CoP that will be useful in applications I'm...
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Heath Row
heath@...
Oct 2, 2000 7:09 pm
... You see, I'd cut this exactly the other way. I think a community of purpose should draw on a wide array of practices, professions, interests, and passions...
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Gautam_Ghosh
gautam_ghosh@...
Oct 3, 2000 8:43 am
hi, have been lurking and decided to enter here. Jaco has raised a point about CoP as a "us" vs "them" phenomenon in an organisations and whether "they" would...
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Richard McDermott
richard@...
Oct 3, 2000 11:28 am
Chris, We are in the midst of our site visits. DaimlerChrysler, Ford, Xerox, Cap/Gemini, Schlumberger. We have also sent out a survey to about 20 companies. ...
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Chris Macrae
wcbn007@...
Oct 3, 2000 2:08 pm
Gautam:" We have to look at organisations by 2 viewpoints, the structural viewpoint and the community viewpoint...and they may or may not lap .....indeed most ...
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gautam_ghosh@...
Oct 4, 2000 12:16 pm
hi chris and everybody else too, "orthodox" organisations are increasingly becoming a rarity these days. I guess you mean the typical "Old Age" "brick &...
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Jaco de Beer
aeroline@...
Oct 4, 2000 5:08 pm
I like your 'selfish' thinking Chris. I am also in this mostly for myself. Would I be wrong if I said the majority of community members are in it for...
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Jon Sidoli
jonm2m@...
Oct 4, 2000 5:52 pm
There would seem to be a place where the structural and organizational sides meet wrt to CoPs. There seems to be a need for a metacontext: the necessity for...
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John D. Smith
smithjd@...
Oct 4, 2000 8:47 pm
Verna Allee, "Knowledge Networks and Communities of Practice" OD Practitioner, Vol 32 (4) October 2000, pp. 4-13. A good summary / introductory article that...
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Chris Macrae
wcbn007@...
Oct 5, 2000 1:39 pm
I'm pressed for time this week but felt compelled to try to respond to two great mails that were interogating something I scribbled earlier (may need to make...
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Jaco de Beer
aeroline@...
Oct 5, 2000 6:36 pm
Dear Verna, John Smith, a leader of <com-prac@egroups.com> recommended your article ("Knowledge Networks and Communities of Practice" OD Practitioner, Vol 32...
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fordp@...
Oct 5, 2000 8:17 pm
... Jon Sidoli For me you captured the heart of CoPs in your 4 C's above, especially when you tie them to shared learning and strategic initiative. Context -...
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Steve Howard
ahasteve@...
Oct 5, 2000 11:18 pm
We had the good fortune to have Jon consult with us on the internal interactive communications he described. As we experience some delays moving forward,...
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Chris Macrae
wcbn007@...
Oct 6, 2000 2:14 pm
As we experience some delays moving forward, we've been mauling over some of the implications of both the Cluetrain Manifesto and Gary Hamel's new book, ...
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Steve Howard
ahasteve@...
Oct 6, 2000 3:56 pm
Hi John, You raise the issue of OD practitioner CoPs for effectiveness. Let me tell you, that's a tough nut to crack. Here, in Orange County, California,...
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Chris Macrae
wcbn007@...
Oct 6, 2000 5:36 pm
Just in case it wasn't quoted or there are others looking for a shortcut the Verna Allee article on Knowledeg Networks and Cops is at ...
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Fred Nickols
nickols@...
Oct 6, 2000 9:17 pm
Something that strikes me as very strange seems to be running through some of the discussions about CoPs. That very strange thing is the notion that CoPs have...
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Fourth Wave Group, Inc.
laramie@...
Oct 8, 2000 1:19 am
Thanks Fred. We seem to have gone full circle (again) from CoPs being a group with an informal social structure, bound together by an interest in common (a...
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Scott Allen
scott.allen@...
Oct 8, 2000 4:11 am
At least in the situations we deal with, the challenge has not been the creation and management of CoP's, but rather the creation of the communication...
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Chris Macrae
wcbn007@...
Oct 8, 2000 12:30 pm
I'm not sure I understand the issue of "strange twist" For sure, some COPs thrived before people identified them and tried to understand them; equally I bet...
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John D. Smith
smithjd@...
Oct 8, 2000 8:25 pm
Fred Nichols brings up an interesting and essential point about communities of practice, noticing that there are some very risky unintended consequences that...
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John D. Smith
smithjd@...
Oct 8, 2000 9:13 pm
This looks interesting to me, and I think be would interesting many people on this list, although it seems like a different vocabulary and perspective in many...
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John D. Smith
smithjd@...
Oct 9, 2000 12:08 am
I've just finished reading Stuart Barnd's "How Buildings Learn" (New York, Viking Penguin, 1994). It is a REALLY FUN book. Great stories, pictures, AND a...
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claire-de neree
claire-de.neree@...
Oct 9, 2000 9:29 am
All, I think it is really simple and not much of a strange twist at all. CoPs can be as informal as they have always been and as they want to be. But, if these...
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Steffen G. Bohm
s.g.bohm@...
Oct 9, 2000 6:35 pm
STANDARD APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING *** Call for contributions *** - ephemera: critical dialogues on organization ephemera: - is a new electronic forum for...
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Richard McDermott
richard@...
Oct 10, 2000 2:36 am
Claire and all, I think we need a flexible way of thinking about CoPs. They are natural, they develop and grow naturally without any "support." Some survive...
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fordp@...
Oct 12, 2000 10:59 am
All com-prac members I've been working on an eLearning project this last 6 weeks. Got me thinking that we could propose a number of options for us to learn ...
