Well at least I got a canned response (below) from my request of the Mayors
office to remove the graffiti on the Tivoli.  God help him when he tries to
respond to all the messages he is getting today regarding the corrupt awards
of our land parcels.  Let's make their heads spin!
Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: anthony_a._williams@...
[mailto:anthony_a._williams@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 12:39 PM
To: adelhomm@...
Subject: RE: hate speech graffiti


Dear Friend,

The Executive Office of the Mayor has received your e-mail.  Thank you for
your
comments.  Your input is important to ensure that we provide the highest
quality
service to District residents, businesses, and visitors.  Mayor Anthony
Williams
responds personally to all of his e-mail.  Accordingly, it may take some
time to
respond to your message, but rest assured that a personal response is
forthcoming.

By David Montgomery
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 9, 1999; 1:00 p.m. EDT

A city panel this morning chose two developers to begin remaking the
run-down Columbia Heights business district, which officials hope will be
one of the most significant commercial and residential projects east of Rock
Creek Park in decades.

The District's Redevelopment Land Agency gave the developers – New
York City-based Grid Properties Inc. and the District-based Horning
Brothers – exclusive rights to two of six city-owned parcels near the new
Columbia Heights Metro Station, which is scheduled to open next week.

Among other things, the winning developers plan to build a $131 million
retail and entertainment complex, a Giant supermarket and town houses. The
facade and lobby of the historic Tivoli Theatre also would be restored.

The redevelopment agency's decision to endorse proposals by the two firms
came after an intense competition among four developers for the building
rights.

The competing visions of Columbia Heights's future caused some bitterness in
the neighborhood, as residents lined up behind various proposals. Sharp
disagreements concerned what is the best use of the Tivoli and whether local
developers should be given preference over out-of-town builders.

Coupled with the Metro station's opening, city officials hope the
construction will go a long way toward revitalizing a neighborhood that has
never recovered from the riots 31 years ago, when hundreds of businesses
were burned or looted after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.

The vote was postponed from last spring so new appointees to the land
agency could become familiar with the proposals. The potential risks for
investors in the area have been highlighted in recent weeks by two
execution-style killings just blocks away.

Grid, in partnership with a local group called the Development Corp. of
Columbia Heights, proposed a $131 million retail and entertainment complex
on five acres west of 14th Street NW between Park Road and Irving Street. It
would include stores, a 12-screen theater, an ice-skating rink, restaurants
and parking.

Horning Brothers, also in partnership with the local development group and
other D.C. developers, proposed an $18 million project to restore the facade
and lobby of the Tivoli while transforming the inside into two floors of
stores. A 46,000 square-foot Giant supermarket, more stores and 29 town
houses would be built nearby.

In choosing the Grid and Horning Brothers proposals, the redevelopment
panel rejected a larger plan by Cleveland-based Forest City Enterprises,
which wanted to redevelop the entire 13-acres that the city is making
available. That $135 million project would include stores and a 12-screen
movie theater at the southwest corner of Irving and 14th Streets NW; a
shopping mall with a supermarket, restaurant and more stores between Irving
and Park Road west of 14th Street; a nine-story office building at the
northeast corner of Irving and 14th with underground parking and more
stores; 60 town houses and apartments, and a restored Tivoli that could be
used as a performing arts space.

Also rejected was a plan by Chevy Chase-based Saul Centers, which
proposed a $12.5 million shopping center.

                 © 1999 The Washington Post Company

______________________________________________________

Who has the phone number where we can reach Forest City?  We should all let
them know of our support and plans of action before they walk away and take
their development dollars to a City who has half a brain.
Anne

The decision is one more example of how DC DOESN'T WORK.  How the government
and its appointees DO NOT LISTEN TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. This is so
frustrating and disturbing.  Is the RLA deaf and blind? Who paid them? It is
not a logical, supported decision.

We must protest their decision.  Is there a lawyer out there that can find a
way to take this to court? Can someone write a form letter to be sent to the
RLA, Wash. Post, etc.

Holly

______________________________________________________

Maybe I missed something, but this article doesn't seem to me to capture the
flavor we wanted.  In fact, it seems pretty complimentary of the two
selected outfits.  And there is no reason provided for why some community
members strongly preferred Forest City.  I think that one of you more
knowledgeable folks should contact the Wash. Post to ask that the substance
of the article be expanded.


>From: "Michael Wilkinson" <wilkinmk@...>
>To: columbia_heights@egroups.com
>Subject: [columbia_heights] Washington Post coverage just posted to the web
>Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 12:14:36 PDT
>
>By David Montgomery
>Washington Post Staff Writer
>Thursday, September 9, 1999; 1:00 p.m. EDT
>
>A city panel this morning chose two developers to begin remaking the
>run-down Columbia Heights business district, which officials hope will be
>one of the most significant commercial and residential projects east of
>Rock
>Creek Park in decades.
>
>The District's Redevelopment Land Agency gave the developers – New
>York City-based Grid Properties Inc. and the District-based Horning
>Brothers – exclusive rights to two of six city-owned parcels near the new
>Columbia Heights Metro Station, which is scheduled to open next week.
>
>Among other things, the winning developers plan to build a $131 million
>retail and entertainment complex, a Giant supermarket and town houses. The
>facade and lobby of the historic Tivoli Theatre also would be restored.
>
>The redevelopment agency's decision to endorse proposals by the two firms
>came after an intense competition among four developers for the building
>rights.
>
>The competing visions of Columbia Heights's future caused some bitterness
>in
>the neighborhood, as residents lined up behind various proposals. Sharp
>disagreements concerned what is the best use of the Tivoli and whether
>local
>developers should be given preference over out-of-town builders.
>
>Coupled with the Metro station's opening, city officials hope the
>construction will go a long way toward revitalizing a neighborhood that has
>never recovered from the riots 31 years ago, when hundreds of businesses
>were burned or looted after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.
>
>The vote was postponed from last spring so new appointees to the land
>agency could become familiar with the proposals. The potential risks for
>investors in the area have been highlighted in recent weeks by two
>execution-style killings just blocks away.
>
>Grid, in partnership with a local group called the Development Corp. of
>Columbia Heights, proposed a $131 million retail and entertainment complex
>on five acres west of 14th Street NW between Park Road and Irving Street.
>It
>would include stores, a 12-screen theater, an ice-skating rink, restaurants
>and parking.
>
>Horning Brothers, also in partnership with the local development group and
>other D.C. developers, proposed an $18 million project to restore the
>facade
>and lobby of the Tivoli while transforming the inside into two floors of
>stores. A 46,000 square-foot Giant supermarket, more stores and 29 town
>houses would be built nearby.
>
>In choosing the Grid and Horning Brothers proposals, the redevelopment
>panel rejected a larger plan by Cleveland-based Forest City Enterprises,
>which wanted to redevelop the entire 13-acres that the city is making
>available. That $135 million project would include stores and a 12-screen
>movie theater at the southwest corner of Irving and 14th Streets NW; a
>shopping mall with a supermarket, restaurant and more stores between Irving
>and Park Road west of 14th Street; a nine-story office building at the
>northeast corner of Irving and 14th with underground parking and more
>stores; 60 town houses and apartments, and a restored Tivoli that could be
>used as a performing arts space.
>
>Also rejected was a plan by Chevy Chase-based Saul Centers, which
>proposed a $12.5 million shopping center.
>
>                © 1999 The Washington Post Company
>
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>
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______________________________________________________

The RLA decision is more than disappointing - it will in effect
bring no development as the Tivoli Parcel will be tied up in
litigation and the Grid project will stall on financing. I
predict the
politicians will proudly announce the accomplishment of bringing
a new grocery to Columbia Heights as the "spur" to development--

Protest is going to have to be long and consistent. In addition
to Metro opening(11:30AM-12noon on Sept.18)
There is "Community Day: at Nehemiah Center Sept.11(2400 14th St
NW) starting at noon ;
There is the Mayor's Ward One Picnic Sept.12 , 2-5PM at Meridian
Hill Park
We should be there too, and hound the Mayor and Councilmember at
every opportunity.

For those of you who don't have the correct e-mail address for the mayor, it
is Mayor@....

We also have an additional address of Mr. Robert Walker, the RLA Board
President who is by the way, a friend of Bob Moore (Grid/Horning)  His
address is:

Robert Walker
President, RLA Board
801 North Capitol Street, NE
Second Floor
Washington, DC  20002

Fran

Good morning all,


   I was chatting with the some of my neighbors last night. One said
that we might want to get the DC Control Board involved. Although
they are powerless to change things they can and still do have a way
of pushing hard on the right people. Since they were created to help
insure that the right $$$$ things were done for DC, I think that they
would help. I called them, and the secretary gave me the E-mail to
the Chair of the control board. It is: fsmith@...

The more people know about it the less likely it will be swept under
the rug.

Another point that was brought to light was the fact that Virginia
Congressman Davis (I think Fairfax area) has helped out DC residents
in the past. Maybe he could get involved. As we all know we are
controled by Congress when it is all said and done.

Mark Barlet



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I hope that this article stirs some reaction among may of you.  I know
plenty of long term residents who were suppporting Forest City.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/sept99/columbia10.htm

While I would be very surprised that they would even get involved, I must
discourage the thought of bringing in outsiders such as Virginia congressmen
and the Control Board to solve internal DC political problems. While many of
us may be disappointed that the RLA decided to pursue Barry-style business
as usual on the matter of Columbia Heights development, appealing to
outsiders is counterproductive to DC autonomy in the long run. And at worst,
it can be perceived as being racially motivated. Rather, I would suggest
keeping this as an internal matter and working to influence the process with
local actors such as the mayor and city councilmembers.

Plenty of local political leverage can be garnered using abundant rational
arguments without reinforcing DC's colonial status. For instance, there are
a lot of legal and financial problems associated with the choice of Grid and
Horning, while their proposals are certainly guilty of being suboptimal and
ugly. Furthermore, cronyism and race politics seem to permeate this
decision. I believe that the RLA does have an appeals process - I suggest
that this be pursued first. Pressuring Mayor Williams might also bear fruit.

Above all, please keep this matter within DC. Even though we may not like
what has transpired here, appealing to outsiders will only reinforce the
belief that DC residents are not mature enough to make their own decisions.
If we ever want to get full enfranchisement, we need to prove that we can
stand on our own and solve our own problems.

Rich Kedzior
Advisory Neighborhood Commissioner, District 1A02
1469 Monroe Street

______________________________________________________

The opening of the Columbia Heights Metro station is the culmination of 5 years
of construction on the Green Line.  This station and it's opening has been in
planning and construction for over 25 years.  Saturday, September 18 is a day of
celebration

There is a proper place and time to protest meaningfully about the selection of
the RLA Board if that is what one wants to do.  I for one believe that the
Saturday ceremony celebrating the opening of this important link into and out of
our neighborhoo

I encourage readers who agree with me to post a message on this bulletin board
showing your views.

Has anyone saved all of our messages.  If so, can you put them into a MS
Word or similar document and send them to the Wash. Post, RLA, Mayor's
Office, TV stations, other media, etc.  Please make this document available
as an attachment with a to do list (i.e. Protest at the Metro Opening,
Contact the Mayor and RLA, etc. )and each of us can send it to everyone we
can think of and distribute around our neighborhoods to get everyone
involved in this issue.  This will be an easy way of letting the media and
the administration know how we, as a community, feel.  I have yet to see one
message in favor of the RLA's decision.

Holly

______________________________________________________

Can anyone think of a location with large room capacity to hold a meeting for
those residents interested in protesting the RLA decision.  We need a meeting
location and agenda so that we can develop a strategy.  There appears to be
almost unanimous consent to doing something around the opening of the two
metro stations and the Mayor's ward 1 picnic.   Someone has even developed
flyers.  Is there another attorney willing to research the existence of an
appeal procedure?

We have done relatively well in a short period of time.  But, we need to
quickly organize for a response with volume and impact.  Who in our community
can we look to for leadership in organizing our response?

Tonya-----    attytmbt@...
(202) 528-9020-home

I agree we need to organize.  I would propose the following:

1. Protests at the Saturday and Sunday events. Please create your
own placards. I don't think there is enough time to do it in an
organized manner so it will likely have to be impromptu it seems
to me.

2. Form a complementary organization to the Save the Tivoli
Foundation to do protests and petition. We could raise money for
the costs of  litigation and other activities. There are two
issues with the Tivoli. The historic preservation issue and the
issue of an alley closing. We successfully delayed Haft when
Former Councilmember Smith passed a bill making the alley closing
on the Tivoli lot contingent on Haft having a plan and schedule
for all the parcels.

3. Petition the Council to move quickly on acquiring the Saul
Properties and have RLA write into the contract with Grid that
they have the entire financing and can begin construction as soon
as the properties are acquired or lose their rights to develop
the property. It is absolutely crucial that the City have an
ironclad contract (not an open-ended agreement subject to
interpretation) with Grid.

I am, of course, am as disappointed as everyone else in this
crazy decision of RLA/Mayor and Jim Graham's acquiescence in it.
They were flim flamed and too inexperienced to realize it.

My .$.02 worth,

Dave McIntire


----- Original Message -----
From: <GAlston@...>

> Sounds good.  Where should we meet and organize?
> ---------- Original Text ----------
>
> From: S=mail/C=US/A=INTERNET/DDA=ID/mail(a)innercity.org, on
09/09/1999 8:41
> PM:
>
> The RLA decision is more than disappointing - it will in effect
> bring no development as the Tivoli Parcel will be tied up in
> litigation and the Grid project will stall on financing. I
> predict the
> politicians will proudly announce the accomplishment of
bringing
> a new grocery to Columbia Heights as the "spur" to
development--
>
> Protest is going to have to be long and consistent. In addition
> to Metro opening(11:30AM-12noon on Sept.18)
> There is "Community Day: at Nehemiah Center Sept.11(2400 14th
St
> NW) starting at noon ;
> There is the Mayor's Ward One Picnic Sept.12 , 2-5PM at
Meridian
> Hill Park
> We should be there too, and hound the Mayor and Councilmember
at
> every opportunity.
>
>
>
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I completely disagree.  If we protest we will be heard.  Why shouldn't we be
present when we will have the most chance to be heard and for the press to
carry it?  What are they going to do close the station?  For Pete's sake.
We can not allow this to happen when we know that this development is not
good for the neighborhood.  A chance to celebrate?????  Please I think its
time to mourn for something that will set us back.

John Schaefer
1326 Girard Street NW
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Stout <cstout@...>
To: <Columbia_heights@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:40
Subject: [columbia_heights] Do Not Protest the Opening of the Metro


> The opening of the Columbia Heights Metro station is the culmination of 5
years of construction on the Green Line.  This station and it's opening has
been in planning and construction for over 25 years.  Saturday, September 18
is a day of celebration
>
> There is a proper place and time to protest meaningfully about the
selection of the RLA Board if that is what one wants to do.  I for one
believe that the Saturday ceremony celebrating the opening of this important
link into and out of our neighborhoo
>
> I encourage readers who agree with me to post a message on this bulletin
board showing your views.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/553
>
>
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> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>

Has anyone picked up on the "indoor amusement center"?  Having grown up in
Hells Kitchen in New York City close to Times Square.  There USED to be many
"arcades" and "amusement areas".  It was a place for kids to hang out, play
hooky from school, and cause trouble away from supervision.  I can tell you
that this does not bode well for "development".
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly Moskerintz <dcholly@...>
To: <mail@...>; <columbia_heights@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:15 AM
Subject: [columbia_heights] Re: RLA Protest


> Has anyone saved all of our messages.  If so, can you put them into a MS
> Word or similar document and send them to the Wash. Post, RLA, Mayor's
> Office, TV stations, other media, etc.  Please make this document
available
> as an attachment with a to do list (i.e. Protest at the Metro Opening,
> Contact the Mayor and RLA, etc. )and each of us can send it to everyone we
> can think of and distribute around our neighborhoods to get everyone
> involved in this issue.  This will be an easy way of letting the media and
> the administration know how we, as a community, feel.  I have yet to see
one
> message in favor of the RLA's decision.
>
> Holly
>
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Regarding compiling all our messages:

Some of our messages may have been a bit heated, if you know what I mean.  I
would warn against putting them all together for submission to anyone
without written consent from the writer.

ANSWER.  Holly, why haven't you seen any messages praising the selection?
Because the folks who supported it won and those of us who think we oppose
it are a self-selected group.

ACTION PLAN.  Numerous random emails and physical protests and other forms
of rabble rousing may help to open the inquiry.  However, Holly, your
suggestion provides the foundation for a concrete reaction.  HOWEVER AGAIN,
I must reply that accessing and collating all messages to date is itself
time-consuming.  Then the collated material would have to be restructured
for logic.  One goal would be to produce a logical, cohesive, substantive
petition to be signed by an many as possible.

SPECIFICS.  Of the many comments, several stick out in my mind:
--The Washing Post article said the city will wait to get bids on the other
lots because the bids will be higher later.  Doesn't this put the city in
the same category as speculative property owners who keep empty/run-down
houses for years--so they can make more money later?
--Geoff Griffis pointed out that folks coming off the metro will exit into
rubble.   That's not a very encouraging.
--Robert Walker's one comment for why Forest City was not selected for
anything can best be classified as "lame".  Walker said that Forest City's
plan depended on acces to one of the parcels awarded to Grid.  Why was Grid
selected?  Why couldn't Forest City have been invited to revamp its plan?
--Jim Graham's Post comments were innocuous.  What actions did Jim Graham
take in trying to get a cohesive decision from the RLA?  Isn't it better to
have just one accountable party?  How can the city "manage" different
contractors when it couldn't even manage the completion of a relatively
small monument at the corner of U and Vermont Avenue?

REASONS.  Although it may be true [or not] that the RLA chose to go with
cronyism, that is not a good substantive reason for arguing against the
choice.  Maybe, just maybe, thbe RLA really thinks it's the best choice for
other reasons.  Thus, we must petition to have RLA explain its logic and
respond to that logic.  On the other side, the constant implication that the
Forest City proponents are a self-righteous, homogenous group of whiteys and
yuppies can be defeated most easily if we stick to logic.

VOLUNTEERS.  I would be willing to work on developing a consistent, logical
petition if somebody else would volunteer to give me one document with all
the collated emails.  Further, I would be willing to solicit additional
facts from knowledgeable people in the neighborhood.

QUESTION.  Does anyone think this will help?  If so, will anyone volunteer
to collate the materials, as Holly suggested?

EMAIl ADDRESSES.  Even the varieties of email addresses provided for the
different folks involved should be collated into one valid list.










>From: "Holly Moskerintz" <dcholly@...>
>To: mail@..., columbia_heights@egroups.com
>Subject: [columbia_heights] Re: RLA Protest
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:15:54 PDT
>
>Has anyone saved all of our messages.  If so, can you put them into a MS
>Word or similar document and send them to the Wash. Post, RLA, Mayor's
>Office, TV stations, other media, etc.  Please make this document available
>as an attachment with a to do list (i.e. Protest at the Metro Opening,
>Contact the Mayor and RLA, etc. )and each of us can send it to everyone we
>can think of and distribute around our neighborhoods to get everyone
>involved in this issue.  This will be an easy way of letting the media and
>the administration know how we, as a community, feel.  I have yet to see
>one
>message in favor of the RLA's decision.
>
>Holly
>
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______________________________________________________

Marguerite Boudreau wrote:
>
> ANSWER.  Holly, why haven't you seen any messages praising the selection?
> Because the folks who supported it won and those of us who think we oppose
> it are a self-selected group.
>
> ACTION PLAN.  Numerous random emails and physical protests and other forms
> of rabble rousing may help to open the inquiry.  However, Holly, your
> suggestion provides the foundation for a concrete reaction.  HOWEVER AGAIN,
> I must reply that accessing and collating all messages to date is itself
> time-consuming.  Then the collated material would have to be restructured
> for logic.  One goal would be to produce a logical, cohesive, substantive
> petition to be signed by an many as possible.
>
> SPECIFICS.  Of the many comments, several stick out in my mind:
> --The Washing Post article said the city will wait to get bids on the other
> lots because the bids will be higher later.  Doesn't this put the city in
> the same category as speculative property owners who keep empty/run-down
> houses for years--so they can make more money later?
> --Geoff Griffis pointed out that folks coming off the metro will exit into
> rubble.   That's not a very encouraging.
> --Robert Walker's one comment for why Forest City was not selected for
> anything can best be classified as "lame".  Walker said that Forest City's
> plan depended on acces to one of the parcels awarded to Grid.  Why was Grid
> selected?  Why couldn't Forest City have been invited to revamp its plan?
> --Jim Graham's Post comments were innocuous.  What actions did Jim Graham
> take in trying to get a cohesive decision from the RLA?  Isn't it better to
> have just one accountable party?  How can the city "manage" different
> contractors when it couldn't even manage the completion of a relatively
> small monument at the corner of U and Vermont Avenue?
>
> REASONS.  Although it may be true [or not] that the RLA chose to go with
> cronyism, that is not a good substantive reason for arguing against the
> choice.  Maybe, just maybe, thbe RLA really thinks it's the best choice for
> other reasons.  Thus, we must petition to have RLA explain its logic and
> respond to that logic.  On the other side, the constant implication that the
> Forest City proponents are a self-righteous, homogenous group of whiteys and
> yuppies can be defeated most easily if we stick to logic.
>
> VOLUNTEERS.  I would be willing to work on developing a consistent, logical
> petition if somebody else would volunteer to give me one document with all
> the collated emails.  Further, I would be willing to solicit additional
> facts from knowledgeable people in the neighborhood.
>
> QUESTION.  Does anyone think this will help?  If so, will anyone volunteer
> to collate the materials, as Holly suggested?
>
> EMAIl ADDRESSES.  Even the varieties of email addresses provided for the
> different folks involved should be collated into one valid list.
>
> >From: "Holly Moskerintz" <dcholly@...>
> >To: mail@..., columbia_heights@egroups.com
> >Subject: [columbia_heights] Re: RLA Protest
> >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:15:54 PDT
> >
> >Has anyone saved all of our messages.  If so, can you put them into a MS
> >Word or similar document and send them to the Wash. Post, RLA, Mayor's
> >Office, TV stations, other media, etc.  Please make this document available
> >as an attachment with a to do list (i.e. Protest at the Metro Opening,
> >Contact the Mayor and RLA, etc. )and each of us can send it to everyone we
> >can think of and distribute around our neighborhoods to get everyone
> >involved in this issue.  This will be an easy way of letting the media and
> >the administration know how we, as a community, feel.  I have yet to see
> >one
> >message in favor of the RLA's decision.
> >
> >Holly
> >
> >______________________________________________________
> >
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I agree that logic is our best weapon.  But getting the RLA to cooperate
in a dialogue where they would communiate the rationale behind their
decision is another story.  I think we need to get everyones attention
first, so that they will be pressured to expose their reasoning.  Media
coverage, maybe with a few spokespeople.

I also like what David Mc. was saying about setting up a orgainization
to consolidate our collective energies under.

I believe everyone who's interested in playing a leading role in this
effort should meet up somewhere so that everything is mapped out.
Sacred Heart?  How about some of the outreach places along Columbia
Road.  They must have a room to use for something such as this.(??)

John

> Carl Stout wrote:
> >
> > The opening of the Columbia Heights Metro station is the culmination of 5
years of construction on the Green Line.  This station and it's opening has been
in planning and construction for over 25 years.  Saturday, September 18 is a day
of celebration
> >
> > There is a proper place and time to protest meaningfully about the selection
of the RLA Board if that is what one wants to do.  I for one believe that the
Saturday ceremony celebrating the opening of this important link into and out of
our neighborhoo
> >
> > I encourage readers who agree with me to post a message on this bulletin
board showing your views.
> >
> >
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The opening of the Metro next weekend IS the most appropriate platform
to express our views!!

What's more important now is how we can expose how this cancer of
race politics has been manipulated for someone elses personal gain at
the expense of many.  In truth, how another (black) man has hoodwinked
the (black) community, and has become rich off from the whole process.

Yeah, let's celebrate R. Moores personal victory, and celebrate how
we'll always still continue to suffer from same cancer which is rooted
in the same mess 31 years later we're trying to cover up and avoid
confronting.  So you want to encourage readers to turn their backs and
except the whole thing.  Well the situation stinks!!

Really bad!!

Celebrate if you want.  I'm ready to fight!!

By the way, I'm black too!!

John Thomas

Holly Moskerintz wrote:
>
> Has anyone saved all of our messages.  If so, can you put them into a MS
> Word or similar document and send them to the Wash. Post, RLA, Mayor's
> Office, TV stations, other media, etc.  Please make this document available
> as an attachment with a to do list (i.e. Protest at the Metro Opening,
> Contact the Mayor and RLA, etc. )and each of us can send it to everyone we
> can think of and distribute around our neighborhoods to get everyone
> involved in this issue.  This will be an easy way of letting the media and
> the administration know how we, as a community, feel.  I have yet to see one
> message in favor of the RLA's decision.
>
> Holly
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Holly,

That's because anyone who uses the internet, and has access to
information
on the proposals would be able to see through this.  It's so blatantly
obvious, I don't see how anyone possibly could be for any of the
other proposals with the exception of the racially biased.

I angers me a bit that Forest City themselves didn't do more to
try and promote their proposal among the residents.  For some, it's
so easy to make a quick judgement when you can attach a color to
an issue.  When we allow individuals to do so, we all suffer
because of it.  That's why we have to protest, so that this
sort of race politics doesn't get played on in the future.
And for a lot of us, we are the future of the neighboorhood,
so let's get it right today.

John Thomas
11th & Otis Place

Ok, I will take a partial lead on this.  I am offering my place tonight to
start a dialogue.  This will be a discussion on what to do next concerning
the RLA's misdecision.  I live at 1240 Girard St.  The meeting will start at
8:00 pm.  I would also suggest someone start on meeting on Sunday for those
folks who can not make it tonight.

Paul Dahmus
1240 Girard St
202-332-6468

-----Original Message-----
From: Attytmbt@... [mailto:Attytmbt@...]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:37 AM
To: columbia_heights@egroups.com
Subject: [columbia_heights] organization of protestors


Can anyone think of a location with large room capacity to hold a meeting
for
those residents interested in protesting the RLA decision.  We need a
meeting
location and agenda so that we can develop a strategy.  There appears to be
almost unanimous consent to doing something around the opening of the two
metro stations and the Mayor's ward 1 picnic.   Someone has even developed
flyers.  Is there another attorney willing to research the existence of an
appeal procedure?

We have done relatively well in a short period of time.  But, we need to
quickly organize for a response with volume and impact.  Who in our
community
can we look to for leadership in organizing our response?

Tonya-----    attytmbt@...
(202) 528-9020-home

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GAlston@... wrote:
>
> If we don't protest, people will think that we are happy with the RLA's
> decision.  If we only write letters to officials and the media, then they
> will dictate how our reaction is interpreted.  Protesting will let everone
> know how we really feel, especially if their is news coverage.

My statement is below his original.  I'm in favor of the protest.
very much so:


> The opening of the Metro next weekend IS the most appropriate platform
> to express our views!!

> What's more important now is how we can expose how this cancer of
> race politics has been manipulated for someone elses personal gain at
> the expense of many.  In truth, how another (black) man has hoodwinked
> the (black) community, and has become rich off from the whole process.

> Yeah, let's celebrate R. Moores personal victory, and celebrate how
> we'll always still continue to suffer from same cancer which is rooted
> in the same mess 31 years later we're trying to cover up and avoid
> confronting.  So you want to encourage readers to turn their backs and
> except the whole thing.  Well the situation stinks!!

> Really bad!!

> Celebrate if you want.  I'm ready to fight!!

> By the way, I'm black too!!

John Thomas

Anne: of course you're correct.  But compilation is only the first step.
Once, the messages are compiled, sombody needs to "edit" the compilation and
perhaps add addition material to produce a cohesive and substantive
petition.  In my previous email, I volunteered to to the EDITING if somebody
would do the compilation.  Tonya (attymbt@..., 518-9020) suggested I
call her this weekend, perhaps in regard to a petition plan.  --Marguerite


>From: "Anne Delhommeau" <adelhomm@...>
>To: "'Holly Moskerintz'" <dcholly@...>, <mail@...>,
><columbia_heights@egroups.com>
>Subject: [columbia_heights] Re: RLA Protest
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:53:49 -0400
>
>Regarding compiling all our messages:
>
>Some of our messages may have been a bit heated, if you know what I mean.
>I
>would warn against putting them all together for submission to anyone
>without written consent from the writer.
>
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______________________________________________________

All,

Yesterday I sent out a flyer for the protest with 1:00pm as the time. I also
passed out about 40 flyers at the Meridian Hill/Malcom X concert last night.
I don't want to confuse things. It's probably best to agree on a specific
time. A couple of people have said 11:30 and maybe we should stick with
that. I chose 1:00 because that's the time that I saw on the WMATA Web site.

Thoughts? 11:30?

Aaron
2906 13th

Aaron Hirsch wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Yesterday I sent out a flyer for the protest with 1:00pm as the time. I also
> passed out about 40 flyers at the Meridian Hill/Malcom X concert last night.
> I don't want to confuse things. It's probably best to agree on a specific
> time. A couple of people have said 11:30 and maybe we should stick with
> that. I chose 1:00 because that's the time that I saw on the WMATA Web site.
>
> Thoughts? 11:30?
>
> Aaron
> 2906 13th
>
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Perhaps 11:30 is a good time for accomidate those who are
like to be fashionably late. (lite humor. ha,ha)

J

Okay, I'll be there...who else??

Tim Cline
1467 Monroe

Dahmus Paul wrote:

> Ok, I will take a partial lead on this.  I am offering my place tonight to
> start a dialogue.  This will be a discussion on what to do next concerning
> the RLA's misdecision.  I live at 1240 Girard St.  The meeting will start at
> 8:00 pm.  I would also suggest someone start on meeting on Sunday for those
> folks who can not make it tonight.
>
> Paul Dahmus
> 1240 Girard St
> 202-332-6468
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Attytmbt@... [mailto:Attytmbt@...]
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:37 AM
> To: columbia_heights@egroups.com
> Subject: [columbia_heights] organization of protestors
>
> Can anyone think of a location with large room capacity to hold a meeting
> for
> those residents interested in protesting the RLA decision.  We need a
> meeting
> location and agenda so that we can develop a strategy.  There appears to be
> almost unanimous consent to doing something around the opening of the two
> metro stations and the Mayor's ward 1 picnic.   Someone has even developed
> flyers.  Is there another attorney willing to research the existence of an
> appeal procedure?
>
> We have done relatively well in a short period of time.  But, we need to
> quickly organize for a response with volume and impact.  Who in our
> community
> can we look to for leadership in organizing our response?
>
> Tonya-----    attytmbt@...
> (202) 528-9020-home
>
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Tim Cline wrote:
>
> Okay, I'll be there...who else??
>
> Tim Cline
> 1467 Monroe
>
> Dahmus Paul wrote:
>
> > Ok, I will take a partial lead on this.  I am offering my place tonight to
> > start a dialogue.  This will be a discussion on what to do next concerning
> > the RLA's misdecision.  I live at 1240 Girard St.  The meeting will start at
> > 8:00 pm.  I would also suggest someone start on meeting on Sunday for those
> > folks who can not make it tonight.
> >
> > Paul Dahmus
> > 1240 Girard St
> > 202-332-6468
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attytmbt@... [mailto:Attytmbt@...]
> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:37 AM
> > To: columbia_heights@egroups.com
> > Subject: [columbia_heights] organization of protestors
> >
> > Can anyone think of a location with large room capacity to hold a meeting
> > for
> > those residents interested in protesting the RLA decision.  We need a
> > meeting
> > location and agenda so that we can develop a strategy.  There appears to be
> > almost unanimous consent to doing something around the opening of the two
> > metro stations and the Mayor's ward 1 picnic.   Someone has even developed
> > flyers.  Is there another attorney willing to research the existence of an
> > appeal procedure?
> >
> > We have done relatively well in a short period of time.  But, we need to
> > quickly organize for a response with volume and impact.  Who in our
> > community
> > can we look to for leadership in organizing our response?
> >
> > Tonya-----    attytmbt@...
> > (202) 528-9020-home
> >
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I'm there
John Thomas
11th & Otis

I can't make a meeting tonight, unfortunately, but could go to another time
during the weekend if someone has a place.  If not, it would be good if at least
some meet and prepare a response before the Sunday picnic.  Speaking of which,
the picnic might be a better venue to express an immediate and forceful response
to the mayor (and media?), since the metro opening is still a week off (11:30 is
what I've heard as the opening reception time.  the trains start that day at
8:00 am)

Is anyone able to offer a second meeting place?  Maybe in Meridian park itself?

Constance Newman






Dahmus Paul <Dahmus_Paul@...> on 09/10/99 11:48:45 AM


To:   "'Attytmbt@...'" <Attytmbt@...>, Columbia_Heights@Egroups.Com
cc:

Subject:  [columbia_heights] Re: organization of protestors




Ok, I will take a partial lead on this.  I am offering my place tonight to
start a dialogue.  This will be a discussion on what to do next concerning
the RLA's misdecision.  I live at 1240 Girard St.  The meeting will start at
8:00 pm.  I would also suggest someone start on meeting on Sunday for those
folks who can not make it tonight.

Paul Dahmus
1240 Girard St
202-332-6468

-----Original Message-----
From: Attytmbt@... [mailto:Attytmbt@...]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:37 AM
To: columbia_heights@egroups.com
Subject: [columbia_heights] organization of protestors


Can anyone think of a location with large room capacity to hold a meeting
for
those residents interested in protesting the RLA decision.  We need a
meeting
location and agenda so that we can develop a strategy.  There appears to be
almost unanimous consent to doing something around the opening of the two
metro stations and the Mayor's ward 1 picnic.   Someone has even developed
flyers.  Is there another attorney willing to research the existence of an
appeal procedure?

We have done relatively well in a short period of time.  But, we need to
quickly organize for a response with volume and impact.  Who in our
community
can we look to for leadership in organizing our response?

Tonya-----    attytmbt@...
(202) 528-9020-home

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