Yeah, I agree.  From the trailer it does look like he is there for comic relief.
I did read that
they went with a script that was not cussler-approved and that he wasn't happy
with Steve
Zahn being the Al choice.  Also, he is suing them.  So, that should play out
pretty
interesting.

I never thought about Al as a main character, but it would be interesting.  He
could have
taken over Dirk's job when he retired.

would definately be interesting

--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Matthews <hjm8163@y...> wrote:
> I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
> have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
> definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
> of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
> Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
> always get the impression that Al is just as capable
> as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
> with Giordino as the main character would be just as
> interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
> even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
> characters.
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"Raise the Titanic" was a rather boring movie indeed. After I'd read some
Clive Cussler novels including raise the Titanic I was so excited to watch
the movie on TV...but I was deeply disappointed. It lacked the excitement
and action of the novel, and Jason Robards as Admiral Sandecker and Richard
Donner as Dirk Pitt were very bad choises. As was M.Emmet Walsh as Al
Giordino.

I think it's very difficult to turn a Cussler novel into a movie. Either you
have too much dialogue and too little action, or you have too much action
and effects and too little dialogue. Well, I think in order to hook the
movie audiences around the world who haven't read Clive Cussler yet (most of
the movie fans haven't, I presume) the movie will have to be full of nail
biting action, suspense and impressive special effects. That's what folks
want. But the story itself will probably be pushed far into the background.

Let's wait and see...I'm looking forward to seeing Sahara...(which is one of
my favourite Cussler novels and one of the most exciting. I bought it during
one of my visits to England and it holds lots of memories for me as most of
Clive's books do...)

Pete



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   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


   I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
   have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
   definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
   of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
   Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
   always get the impression that Al is just as capable
   as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
   with Giordino as the main character would be just as
   interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
   even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
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Oh yes, I agree!
That's what's one of the things that make Cussler's books so attractive for
me. Dirk is so modest he equally shares his praise and glory with his buddy
Al. And Al Giordino is a guy who'd do to ride the river with anytime. A true
friend who'd go thru hell for Pitt and everyone in need of help. Especially
in those books where Cussler describes what Al has done with the submersible
and the underwater vehicles he's developed, he drags Al Giodino in the
foreground and focuses on him. I equally like Dirk and Al, and I have ever
since I've read "Vixen 03".

If there ever should be a novel focusing on Al Giordino, I think it will
have to contain more of Al's romantic exploits into the world of women. He's
a womanizer and a romantic and thats to be considered if a novel should
describe his adventures.

Pete


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   I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
   have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
   definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
   of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
   Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
   always get the impression that Al is just as capable
   as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
   with Giordino as the main character would be just as
   interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
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Just watched the trailer, and what I thought when I read all the reports and
opinions about the movie came true.

It seems that the story has been changed. I got the impression that Dirk and
Al (the actor for Al Giordino was indeed a very poor choice) don't
investigate the source of toxic waste led into the nile river and the sea by
African-French industry moguls but rather go on a treasure hunt to prove
that a civil war ship containing a war treasure sailed from the US to
Africa.

So, where does that leave us? A treasure hunt in the sahara desert, complete
with Indiana Jones - like underground caves, lots of shooting with machine
guns and rocket launchers, helicopter attacks, lots of pyrotechnics and very
little underwater action? As I surmised, it seems that the story wasn't as
important as action and effects. Well, I don't want to sound too pessimistic
but as a Dirk Pitt fan who was hooked by the Sahara book til the end I'm
afraid the movie will not reach the quality of the novel...

Pete


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   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer



   The book was GREAT!  The movie was a little boring as I recall, I just
caught it on late
   night a couple years ago.



   --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hunt <thuntt3@y...> wrote:
   > So the movie "Raise the Titantic" was very borning ?  The book was ok
though ?
   >
   > Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@c...> wrote:Great clip!
   > Looks like it will be out late spring?
   > Hints of Indiana Jones....
   > Yes, I've got the move "Raise the Titanic" -- very long, very boring,
but
   > the sound track is wonderful.
   > Found the sound track after about 8 yrs of looking!
   >
   > Nancy buried in 3 feet of snow in Utah
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   > Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer
   >
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   > Watch this trailer and tell me what you think?
   >
   > Matthew McConehey (I know that isnt spelled right) doesnt sem as bad
   > as it once did.  Im afraid that Al thought is a bad casting job, but I
   > dont want to pass judgement, we will have to wait and see.
   >
   > Check out the trailer here
   >
   > http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist
   > dll?id=1314619&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400
   >
   > Post your comments here, at least we know it must be better than the
   > original Raise the Titanic movie!  Did anyone actually see that?
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Does anyone know if Perlmutter or Yeager are even
going to be in the movie? I checked imdb.com and their
names are not listed in the cast.

--- Justin.Fog@... wrote:

> Just watched the trailer, and what I thought when I
> read all the reports and
> opinions about the movie came true.
>
> It seems that the story has been changed. I got the
> impression that Dirk and
> Al (the actor for Al Giordino was indeed a very poor
> choice) don't
> investigate the source of toxic waste led into the
> nile river and the sea by
> African-French industry moguls but rather go on a
> treasure hunt to prove
> that a civil war ship containing a war treasure
> sailed from the US to
> Africa.
>
> So, where does that leave us? A treasure hunt in the
> sahara desert, complete
> with Indiana Jones - like underground caves, lots of
> shooting with machine
> guns and rocket launchers, helicopter attacks, lots
> of pyrotechnics and very
> little underwater action? As I surmised, it seems
> that the story wasn't as
> important as action and effects. Well, I don't want
> to sound too pessimistic
> but as a Dirk Pitt fan who was hooked by the Sahara
> book til the end I'm
> afraid the movie will not reach the quality of the
> novel...
>
> Pete
>
>
>   -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>   Von: wask21 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
>   Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 17:34
>   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA -
> Movie Trailer
>
>
>
>   The book was GREAT!  The movie was a little boring
> as I recall, I just
> caught it on late
>   night a couple years ago.
>
>
>
>   --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Tim
> Hunt <thuntt3@y...> wrote:
>   > So the movie "Raise the Titantic" was very
> borning ?  The book was ok
> though ?
>   >
>   > Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@c...> wrote:Great
> clip!
>   > Looks like it will be out late spring?
>   > Hints of Indiana Jones....
>   > Yes, I've got the move "Raise the Titanic" --
> very long, very boring,
> but
>   > the sound track is wonderful.
>   > Found the sound track after about 8 yrs of
> looking!
>   >
>   > Nancy buried in 3 feet of snow in Utah
>   >
>   > -------Original Message-------
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>   > From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   > Date: 01/13/05 16:38:43
>   > To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   > Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie
> Trailer
>   >
>   >
>   > Watch this trailer and tell me what you think?
>   >
>   > Matthew McConehey (I know that isnt spelled
> right) doesnt sem as bad
>   > as it once did.  Im afraid that Al thought is a
> bad casting job, but I
>   > dont want to pass judgement, we will have to
> wait and see.
>   >
>   > Check out the trailer here
>   >
>   > http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist
>   > dll?id=1314619&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400
>   >
>   > Post your comments here, at least we know it
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> actually see that?
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Pete,
The old movie "Flight of the Phoenix" is being remade.  I just hope it isn't
released at the same time as "Sahara."  Because it will overshadow one of
the most exciting scenes from Sahara.

Nancy

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/14/05 09:42:44
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

"Raise the Titanic" was a rather boring movie indeed. After I'd read some
Clive Cussler novels including raise the Titanic I was so excited to watch
the movie on TV...but I was deeply disappointed. It lacked the excitement
and action of the novel, and Jason Robards as Admiral Sandecker and Richard
Donner as Dirk Pitt were very bad choises. As was M.Emmet Walsh as Al
Giordino.

I think it's very difficult to turn a Cussler novel into a movie. Either you
have too much dialogue and too little action, or you have too much action
and effects and too little dialogue. Well, I think in order to hook the
movie audiences around the world who haven't read Clive Cussler yet (most of
the movie fans haven't, I presume) the movie will have to be full of nail
biting action, suspense and impressive special effects. That's what folks
want. But the story itself will probably be pushed far into the background.

Let's wait and see...I'm looking forward to seeing Sahara...(which is one of
my favourite Cussler novels and one of the most exciting. I bought it during
one of my visits to England and it holds lots of memories for me as most of
Clive's books do...)

Pete



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   Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 15:54
   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


   I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
   have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
   definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
   of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
   Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
   always get the impression that Al is just as capable
   as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
   with Giordino as the main character would be just as
   interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
   even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
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Tim,
Read the book first.  Then you'll see that the movie did not do it justice.
Clive himself is very disheartened about how that movie turned out.  That's
why he
wanted more control in the making of Sahara.  But I don't think he was able
to control
as much as he wanted.  Read his books.  You'll get hooked.

Nancy in Utah with sunshine on the snow

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From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/14/05 08:54:36
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer

So the movie "Raise the Titantic" was very borning ?  The book was ok though
?

Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@...> wrote:Great clip!
Looks like it will be out late spring?
Hints of Indiana Jones....
Yes, I've got the move "Raise the Titanic" -- very long, very boring, but
the sound track is wonderful.
Found the sound track after about 8 yrs of looking!

Nancy buried in 3 feet of snow in Utah

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/13/05 16:38:43
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer


Watch this trailer and tell me what you think?

Matthew McConehey (I know that isnt spelled right) doesnt sem as bad
as it once did.  Im afraid that Al thought is a bad casting job, but I
dont want to pass judgement, we will have to wait and see.

Check out the trailer here

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist
dll?id=1314619&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400

Post your comments here, at least we know it must be better than the
original Raise the Titanic movie!  Did anyone actually see that?


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I bought the book today !

Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@...> wrote:Tim,
Read the book first.  Then you'll see that the movie did not do it justice.
Clive himself is very disheartened about how that movie turned out.  That's
why he
wanted more control in the making of Sahara.  But I don't think he was able
to control
as much as he wanted.  Read his books.  You'll get hooked.

Nancy in Utah with sunshine on the snow

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/14/05 08:54:36
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer

So the movie "Raise the Titantic" was very borning ?  The book was ok though
?

Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@...> wrote:Great clip!
Looks like it will be out late spring?
Hints of Indiana Jones....
Yes, I've got the move "Raise the Titanic" -- very long, very boring, but
the sound track is wonderful.
Found the sound track after about 8 yrs of looking!

Nancy buried in 3 feet of snow in Utah

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/13/05 16:38:43
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer


Watch this trailer and tell me what you think?

Matthew McConehey (I know that isnt spelled right) doesnt sem as bad
as it once did.  Im afraid that Al thought is a bad casting job, but I
dont want to pass judgement, we will have to wait and see.

Check out the trailer here

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist
dll?id=1314619&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400

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I didn't like "Flight of the Phoenix" - it was too long and too boring for
my taste. However, I'd have preferred if they had chosen an excellent novel
like "Atlantis found" for a Dirk Pitt movie. That one was a rollercoaster
ride of action with an ice-cold arch villain, if there ever was one... There
are so many movies with exotic locations like the Sahara desert, but not
that many with settings in the antarctica...

Pete




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   Betreff: Re: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


   Pete,
   The old movie "Flight of the Phoenix" is being remade.  I just hope it
isn't
   released at the same time as "Sahara."  Because it will overshadow one of
   the most exciting scenes from Sahara.

   Nancy

   -------Original Message-------

   From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Date: 01/14/05 09:42:44
   To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

   "Raise the Titanic" was a rather boring movie indeed. After I'd read some
   Clive Cussler novels including raise the Titanic I was so excited to watch
   the movie on TV...but I was deeply disappointed. It lacked the excitement
   and action of the novel, and Jason Robards as Admiral Sandecker and
Richard
   Donner as Dirk Pitt were very bad choises. As was M.Emmet Walsh as Al
   Giordino.

   I think it's very difficult to turn a Cussler novel into a movie. Either
you
   have too much dialogue and too little action, or you have too much action
   and effects and too little dialogue. Well, I think in order to hook the
   movie audiences around the world who haven't read Clive Cussler yet (most
of
   the movie fans haven't, I presume) the movie will have to be full of nail
   biting action, suspense and impressive special effects. That's what folks
   want. But the story itself will probably be pushed far into the
background.

   Let's wait and see...I'm looking forward to seeing Sahara...(which is one
of
   my favourite Cussler novels and one of the most exciting. I bought it
during
   one of my visits to England and it holds lots of memories for me as most
of
   Clive's books do...)

   Pete



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     Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 15:54
     An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


     I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
     have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
     definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
     of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
     Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
     always get the impression that Al is just as capable
     as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
     with Giordino as the main character would be just as
     interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
     even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
     characters.





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That's great, Tim
I buy a lot of books at extremely reasonable costs on www.half.com   Great
way to get a lot of books by one author.

Nancy

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/14/05 13:40:13
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer

I bought the book today !

Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@...> wrote:Tim,
Read the book first.  Then you'll see that the movie did not do it justice.
Clive himself is very disheartened about how that movie turned out.  That's
why he
wanted more control in the making of Sahara.  But I don't think he was able
to control
as much as he wanted.  Read his books.  You'll get hooked.

Nancy in Utah with sunshine on the snow

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/14/05 08:54:36
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer

So the movie "Raise the Titantic" was very borning ?  The book was ok though
?

Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@...> wrote:Great clip!
Looks like it will be out late spring?
Hints of Indiana Jones....
Yes, I've got the move "Raise the Titanic" -- very long, very boring, but
the sound track is wonderful.
Found the sound track after about 8 yrs of looking!

Nancy buried in 3 feet of snow in Utah

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/13/05 16:38:43
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer


Watch this trailer and tell me what you think?

Matthew McConehey (I know that isnt spelled right) doesnt sem as bad
as it once did.  Im afraid that Al thought is a bad casting job, but I
dont want to pass judgement, we will have to wait and see.

Check out the trailer here

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist
dll?id=1314619&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400

Post your comments here, at least we know it must be better than the
original Raise the Titanic movie!  Did anyone actually see that?


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Pete,
Now would be the time for an antartic movie!  Could be filmed right here in
Utah!  VBG

Nancy where we have 3 feet of snow; dogs were walking over the fence, so
hubby had to trench
along the fence to keep these doggies in their yard!

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/14/05 13:59:32
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

I didn't like "Flight of the Phoenix" - it was too long and too boring for
my taste. However, I'd have preferred if they had chosen an excellent novel
like "Atlantis found" for a Dirk Pitt movie. That one was a rollercoaster
ride of action with an ice-cold arch villain, if there ever was one... There
are so many movies with exotic locations like the Sahara desert, but not
that many with settings in the antarctica...

Pete




   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
   Von: Nancy Silk [mailto:silkwinddachs@...]
   Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 20:57
   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: Re: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


   Pete,
   The old movie "Flight of the Phoenix" is being remade.  I just hope it
isn't
   released at the same time as "Sahara."  Because it will overshadow one of
   the most exciting scenes from Sahara.

   Nancy

   -------Original Message-------

   From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Date: 01/14/05 09:42:44
   To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

   "Raise the Titanic" was a rather boring movie indeed. After I'd read some
   Clive Cussler novels including raise the Titanic I was so excited to watch
   the movie on TV...but I was deeply disappointed. It lacked the excitement
   and action of the novel, and Jason Robards as Admiral Sandecker and
Richard
   Donner as Dirk Pitt were very bad choises. As was M.Emmet Walsh as Al
   Giordino.

   I think it's very difficult to turn a Cussler novel into a movie. Either
you
   have too much dialogue and too little action, or you have too much action
   and effects and too little dialogue. Well, I think in order to hook the
   movie audiences around the world who haven't read Clive Cussler yet (most
of
   the movie fans haven't, I presume) the movie will have to be full of nail
   biting action, suspense and impressive special effects. That's what folks
   want. But the story itself will probably be pushed far into the
background.

   Let's wait and see...I'm looking forward to seeing Sahara...(which is one
of
   my favourite Cussler novels and one of the most exciting. I bought it
during
   one of my visits to England and it holds lots of memories for me as most
of
   Clive's books do...)

   Pete



     -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
     Von: Jerry Matthews [mailto:hjm8163@...]
     Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 15:54
     An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


     I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
     have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
     definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
     of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
     Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
     always get the impression that Al is just as capable
     as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
     with Giordino as the main character would be just as
     interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
     even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
     characters.





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Nancy.

what about the scorching heat in summer, and you sit in a theater and watch
an antarctic movie?

Think about that.

I envy you for your snow. We've had temps in the upper 20s this past week...

Pete


   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
   Von: Nancy Silk [mailto:silkwinddachs@...]
   Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 22:10
   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


   Pete,
   Now would be the time for an antartic movie!  Could be filmed right here
in
   Utah!  VBG

   Nancy where we have 3 feet of snow; dogs were walking over the fence, so
   hubby had to trench
   along the fence to keep these doggies in their yard!

   -------Original Message-------

   From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Date: 01/14/05 13:59:32
   To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: AW: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

   I didn't like "Flight of the Phoenix" - it was too long and too boring for
   my taste. However, I'd have preferred if they had chosen an excellent
novel
   like "Atlantis found" for a Dirk Pitt movie. That one was a rollercoaster
   ride of action with an ice-cold arch villain, if there ever was one...
There
   are so many movies with exotic locations like the Sahara desert, but not
   that many with settings in the antarctica...

   Pete




     -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
     Von: Nancy Silk [mailto:silkwinddachs@...]
     Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 20:57
     An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Betreff: Re: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


     Pete,
     The old movie "Flight of the Phoenix" is being remade.  I just hope it
   isn't
     released at the same time as "Sahara."  Because it will overshadow one
of
     the most exciting scenes from Sahara.

     Nancy

     -------Original Message-------

     From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Date: 01/14/05 09:42:44
     To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Subject: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

     "Raise the Titanic" was a rather boring movie indeed. After I'd read
some
     Clive Cussler novels including raise the Titanic I was so excited to
watch
     the movie on TV...but I was deeply disappointed. It lacked the
excitement
     and action of the novel, and Jason Robards as Admiral Sandecker and
   Richard
     Donner as Dirk Pitt were very bad choises. As was M.Emmet Walsh as Al
     Giordino.

     I think it's very difficult to turn a Cussler novel into a movie. Either
   you
     have too much dialogue and too little action, or you have too much
action
     and effects and too little dialogue. Well, I think in order to hook the
     movie audiences around the world who haven't read Clive Cussler yet
(most
   of
     the movie fans haven't, I presume) the movie will have to be full of
nail
     biting action, suspense and impressive special effects. That's what
folks
     want. But the story itself will probably be pushed far into the
   background.

     Let's wait and see...I'm looking forward to seeing Sahara...(which is
one
   of
     my favourite Cussler novels and one of the most exciting. I bought it
   during
     one of my visits to England and it holds lots of memories for me as most
   of
     Clive's books do...)

     Pete



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       Von: Jerry Matthews [mailto:hjm8163@...]
       Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 15:54
       An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
       Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


       I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
       have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
       definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
       of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
       Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
       always get the impression that Al is just as capable
       as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
       with Giordino as the main character would be just as
       interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
       even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
       characters.





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Pete,
In the summer, it would be refreshing to see such a movie.  But not now!!!
LOL
I get cold just thinking about it.  Gonna have to get a hot cup of coffee!

Nancy

-------Original Message-------

From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: 01/14/05 14:17:18
To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: AW: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

Nancy.

what about the scorching heat in summer, and you sit in a theater and watch
an antarctic movie?

Think about that.

I envy you for your snow. We've had temps in the upper 20s this past week...

Pete


   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
   Von: Nancy Silk [mailto:silkwinddachs@...]
   Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 22:10
   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


   Pete,
   Now would be the time for an antartic movie!  Could be filmed right here
in
   Utah!  VBG

   Nancy where we have 3 feet of snow; dogs were walking over the fence, so
   hubby had to trench
   along the fence to keep these doggies in their yard!

   -------Original Message-------

   From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Date: 01/14/05 13:59:32
   To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: AW: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

   I didn't like "Flight of the Phoenix" - it was too long and too boring for
   my taste. However, I'd have preferred if they had chosen an excellent
novel
   like "Atlantis found" for a Dirk Pitt movie. That one was a rollercoaster
   ride of action with an ice-cold arch villain, if there ever was one...
There
   are so many movies with exotic locations like the Sahara desert, but not
   that many with settings in the antarctica...

   Pete




     -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
     Von: Nancy Silk [mailto:silkwinddachs@...]
     Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 20:57
     An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Betreff: Re: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


     Pete,
     The old movie "Flight of the Phoenix" is being remade.  I just hope it
   isn't
     released at the same time as "Sahara."  Because it will overshadow one
of
     the most exciting scenes from Sahara.

     Nancy

     -------Original Message-------

     From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Date: 01/14/05 09:42:44
     To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
     Subject: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al

     "Raise the Titanic" was a rather boring movie indeed. After I'd read
some
     Clive Cussler novels including raise the Titanic I was so excited to
watch
     the movie on TV...but I was deeply disappointed. It lacked the
excitement
     and action of the novel, and Jason Robards as Admiral Sandecker and
   Richard
     Donner as Dirk Pitt were very bad choises. As was M.Emmet Walsh as Al
     Giordino.

     I think it's very difficult to turn a Cussler novel into a movie. Either
   you
     have too much dialogue and too little action, or you have too much
action
     and effects and too little dialogue. Well, I think in order to hook the
     movie audiences around the world who haven't read Clive Cussler yet
(most
   of
     the movie fans haven't, I presume) the movie will have to be full of
nail
     biting action, suspense and impressive special effects. That's what
folks
     want. But the story itself will probably be pushed far into the
   background.

     Let's wait and see...I'm looking forward to seeing Sahara...(which is
one
   of
     my favourite Cussler novels and one of the most exciting. I bought it
   during
     one of my visits to England and it holds lots of memories for me as most
   of
     Clive's books do...)

     Pete



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       Von: Jerry Matthews [mailto:hjm8163@...]
       Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 15:54
       An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
       Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al


       I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
       have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
       definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
       of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
       Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
       always get the impression that Al is just as capable
       as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
       with Giordino as the main character would be just as
       interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
       even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
       characters.





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I rented the movie Titanic years and go and actually liked it.  Not
that I'm saying it was great, but it certainly wasn't the worst thing
I've ever seen.

As for who they chose for Al... I'll have to agree, they could have
picked someone better.  That is certainly not how I pictured Al.  I'm
thinking Italian and that guy certainly doesn't look like a muscled
Italian.

Also, that link posted for the Trailer, I kept getting a blank page.
If people have that same problem, here's another link.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/sahara/sahara_large.html

Whether the movie is going to be good, great, or not, I'm just excited
to see it done and can't wait to see it.  Opening night, I will be there.




--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, wask21 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
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> The book was GREAT!  The movie was a little boring as I recall, I
just caught it on late
> night a couple years ago.
>
>
>
> --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hunt <thuntt3@y...>
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> > So the movie "Raise the Titantic" was very borning ?  The book was
ok though ?
> >
> > Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@c...> wrote:Great clip!
> > Looks like it will be out late spring?
> > Hints of Indiana Jones....
> > Yes, I've got the move "Raise the Titanic" -- very long, very
boring, but
> > the sound track is wonderful.
> > Found the sound track after about 8 yrs of looking!
> >
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> >
> > Matthew McConehey (I know that isnt spelled right) doesnt sem as bad
> > as it once did.  Im afraid that Al thought is a bad casting job, but I
> > dont want to pass judgement, we will have to wait and see.
> >
> > Check out the trailer here
> >
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> > dll?id=1314619&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400
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Yes, Atlantis Found would have been a good one to make a movie of
because of it's setting.  Some movie scenes seem to be over used, so
something fresh would be nice.



--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Justin.Fog@t... wrote:
> I didn't like "Flight of the Phoenix" - it was too long and too
boring for
> my taste. However, I'd have preferred if they had chosen an
excellent novel
> like "Atlantis found" for a Dirk Pitt movie. That one was a
rollercoaster
> ride of action with an ice-cold arch villain, if there ever was
one... There
> are so many movies with exotic locations like the Sahara desert, but not
> that many with settings in the antarctica...
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>
>   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>   Von: Nancy Silk [mailto:silkwinddachs@c...]
>   Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 20:57
>   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   Betreff: Re: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al
>
>
>   Pete,
>   The old movie "Flight of the Phoenix" is being remade.  I just hope it
> isn't
>   released at the same time as "Sahara."  Because it will overshadow
one of
>   the most exciting scenes from Sahara.
>
>   Nancy
>
>   -------Original Message-------
>
>   From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   Date: 01/14/05 09:42:44
>   To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: AW: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al
>
>   "Raise the Titanic" was a rather boring movie indeed. After I'd
read some
>   Clive Cussler novels including raise the Titanic I was so excited
to watch
>   the movie on TV...but I was deeply disappointed. It lacked the
excitement
>   and action of the novel, and Jason Robards as Admiral Sandecker and
> Richard
>   Donner as Dirk Pitt were very bad choises. As was M.Emmet Walsh as Al
>   Giordino.
>
>   I think it's very difficult to turn a Cussler novel into a movie.
Either
> you
>   have too much dialogue and too little action, or you have too much
action
>   and effects and too little dialogue. Well, I think in order to
hook the
>   movie audiences around the world who haven't read Clive Cussler
yet (most
> of
>   the movie fans haven't, I presume) the movie will have to be full
of nail
>   biting action, suspense and impressive special effects. That's
what folks
>   want. But the story itself will probably be pushed far into the
> background.
>
>   Let's wait and see...I'm looking forward to seeing Sahara...(which
is one
> of
>   my favourite Cussler novels and one of the most exciting. I bought it
> during
>   one of my visits to England and it holds lots of memories for me
as most
> of
>   Clive's books do...)
>
>   Pete
>
>
>
>     -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>     Von: Jerry Matthews [mailto:hjm8163@y...]
>     Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 15:54
>     An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>     Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al
>
>
>     I think Zahn was a bad choice also. I guess we'll just
>     have to wait and see when the movie comes out. He
>     definitely doesn't look like Dr Cussler's description
>     of Al. I hope he is not there just for comic relief.
>     Al is one of my favorite characters. In the books you
>     always get the impression that Al is just as capable
>     as  Pitt. I have thought for along time that a book
>     with Giordino as the main character would be just as
>     interesting as the Dirk Pitt or Kurt Austin books, or
>     even better a story with Zavala & Giordino as the main
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"And Al Giordino is a guy who'd do to ride the river with anytime"

That is an expression that is pretty much associated with one really
well known author, anyone know who? Im betting that Justin does.

Im a big fan of his, I figure Im not the only one (I'll give you a
hint, he has millions of westerns in print today.)

William W. Johnstone used that phrase very often. I love his books. He
passed away last April.

I don't know if Louis L'Amour ever used that term...

Pete


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   Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Januar 2005 07:53
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   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al



   "And Al Giordino is a guy who'd do to ride the river with anytime"

   That is an expression that is pretty much associated with one really
   well known author, anyone know who? Im betting that Justin does.

   Im a big fan of his, I figure Im not the only one (I'll give you a
   hint, he has millions of westerns in print today.)







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Yeah, I was thinking of Louis L'amour.  I think it is in every book he
ever wrote! haha.  There is even one of the Sackett trilogy that bears
that name....

LL is right there for #1 with Clive in my book... I could go on, but
that is for another group... haha




--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Justin.Fog@t... wrote:
> William W. Johnstone used that phrase very often. I love his books. He
> passed away last April.
>
> I don't know if Louis L'Amour ever used that term...
>
> Pete
>
>
>   -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>   Von: wask21 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
>   Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Januar 2005 07:53
>   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al
>
>
>
>   "And Al Giordino is a guy who'd do to ride the river with anytime"
>
>   That is an expression that is pretty much associated with one really
>   well known author, anyone know who? Im betting that Justin does.
>
>   Im a big fan of his, I figure Im not the only one (I'll give you a
>   hint, he has millions of westerns in print today.)
>
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What else do you read other than CC?

It is a curious thing.

Personally, I read my Bible (Im a youth pastor), Louis L'amour and
Grisham are my other two big ones.  I own probably 3/4 of the books
that LL ever wrote.  Working on getting the rest.

I also like several other western writers as well.

My dad reads everything so when my wife and I go in for holidays for
vacation, I pick his brain as to what was good then raid his book
collection.  Its cheaper that way =)

I entirely agree - Louis L'Amour is possibly the very best western writer
ever, and his Sackett series is the best western series, closely followed by
the William W. Johnstone western series.

Pete


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   Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Januar 2005 03:42
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   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al



   Yeah, I was thinking of Louis L'amour.  I think it is in every book he
   ever wrote! haha.  There is even one of the Sackett trilogy that bears
   that name....

   LL is right there for #1 with Clive in my book... I could go on, but
   that is for another group... haha




   --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Justin.Fog@t... wrote:
   > William W. Johnstone used that phrase very often. I love his books. He
   > passed away last April.
   >
   > I don't know if Louis L'Amour ever used that term...
   >
   > Pete
   >
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   >   Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Januar 2005 07:53
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   >   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al
   >
   >
   >
   >   "And Al Giordino is a guy who'd do to ride the river with anytime"
   >
   >   That is an expression that is pretty much associated with one really
   >   well known author, anyone know who? Im betting that Justin does.
   >
   >   Im a big fan of his, I figure Im not the only one (I'll give you a
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My Favorite writers , Besides  Cussler; are Jack Du
Brul, Lincoln Preston & Douglas Childs, Michael
Crichton, Robert Ludlum, Neil Gaiman, Tim Powers,
Robert McCammon, Terry Brooks. Also Grisham, Zane
Grey, William Johnstone, L'Amour, and Elmer Kelton.

Jack Du Brul is really good. I f you like Cussler you
will definitely like his books.

--- wask21 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
> What else do you read other than CC?
>
> It is a curious thing.
>
> Personally, I read my Bible (Im a youth pastor),
> Louis L'amour and
> Grisham are my other two big ones.  I own probably
> 3/4 of the books
> that LL ever wrote.  Working on getting the rest.
>
> I also like several other western writers as well.
>
>
> My dad reads everything so when my wife and I go in
> for holidays for
> vacation, I pick his brain as to what was good then
> raid his book
> collection.  Its cheaper that way =)
>
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I read William W. Johnstone, have read all of Louis L'Amour's novels, have
read all of Alistair MacLean's novels, like Jack Higgins / Harry Patterson,
love mysteries by Rex Stout, Erle Stanley Gardner and Ellery Queen and
Carter Brown. I am also a fan of men's adventure books / pulp fiction, and a
long time and great fan of the Doc Savage books. I like the James Bond
novels, but my most favourite next to Clive Cussler's books are the
extraordinary "Modesty Blaise" novels by British author Peter O'Donnell.
These novels were written in the Sixties and early Seventies. Peter
O'Donnell has passed away long since, but his heroine Modesty Blaise along
with knife-throwing expert Willie Garvin will live on. You'all should give
it a try.

Pete


   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
   Von: Jerry Matthews [mailto:hjm8163@...]
   Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Januar 2005 15:49
   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] What do you read other than Clive
Cussler?


   My Favorite writers , Besides  Cussler; are Jack Du
   Brul, Lincoln Preston & Douglas Childs, Michael
   Crichton, Robert Ludlum, Neil Gaiman, Tim Powers,
   Robert McCammon, Terry Brooks. Also Grisham, Zane
   Grey, William Johnstone, L'Amour, and Elmer Kelton.

   Jack Du Brul is really good. I f you like Cussler you
   will definitely like his books.

   --- wask21 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

   >
   > What else do you read other than CC?
   >
   > It is a curious thing.
   >
   > Personally, I read my Bible (Im a youth pastor),
   > Louis L'amour and
   > Grisham are my other two big ones.  I own probably
   > 3/4 of the books
   > that LL ever wrote.  Working on getting the rest.
   >
   > I also like several other western writers as well.
   >
   >
   > My dad reads everything so when my wife and I go in
   > for holidays for
   > vacation, I pick his brain as to what was good then
   > raid his book
   > collection.  Its cheaper that way =)
   >
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Many of the ones below including Preston & Childs, Crichton, Ludlum,
Grisham, Johnstone, Nelson DeMille, Michael Cecilione, James Lee Burke,
Stephen Coonts, Dale Brown, Dean Koontz, and F. Paul Wilson (men only on
that list though the female list is equally long....) Oh and Jim Butcher.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Matthews" <hjm8163@...>
To: <clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] What do you read other than Clive
Cussler?


>
> My Favorite writers , Besides  Cussler; are Jack Du
> Brul, Lincoln Preston & Douglas Childs, Michael
> Crichton, Robert Ludlum, Neil Gaiman, Tim Powers,
> Robert McCammon, Terry Brooks. Also Grisham, Zane
> Grey, William Johnstone, L'Amour, and Elmer Kelton.
>
> Jack Du Brul is really good. I f you like Cussler you
> will definitely like his books.
>
> --- wask21 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> What else do you read other than CC?
>>
>> It is a curious thing.
>>
>> Personally, I read my Bible (Im a youth pastor),
>> Louis L'amour and
>> Grisham are my other two big ones.  I own probably
>> 3/4 of the books
>> that LL ever wrote.  Working on getting the rest.
>>
>> I also like several other western writers as well.
>>
>>
>> My dad reads everything so when my wife and I go in
>> for holidays for
>> vacation, I pick his brain as to what was good then
>> raid his book
>> collection.  Its cheaper that way =)
>>
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I have tried to download the trailer and all I get is sound no
picture I tried both links that you guys sent me no luck, any ideas?
I have read DuBrull very good, and DeMille is very good too. I like
the ones with John Corey in them I saw he just came out with another
one with Corey in it. I will put it on my list after "Black Wind"
Baba

--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, lizard_tbone
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I rented the movie Titanic years and go and actually liked it.  Not
> that I'm saying it was great, but it certainly wasn't the worst
thing
> I've ever seen.
>
> As for who they chose for Al... I'll have to agree, they could have
> picked someone better.  That is certainly not how I pictured Al.
I'm
> thinking Italian and that guy certainly doesn't look like a muscled
> Italian.
>
> Also, that link posted for the Trailer, I kept getting a blank
page.
> If people have that same problem, here's another link.
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/sahara/sahara_large.html
>
> Whether the movie is going to be good, great, or not, I'm just
excited
> to see it done and can't wait to see it.  Opening night, I will be
there.
>
>
>
>
> --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, wask21 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > The book was GREAT!  The movie was a little boring as I recall, I
> just caught it on late
> > night a couple years ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hunt
<thuntt3@y...>
> wrote:
> > > So the movie "Raise the Titantic" was very borning ?  The book
was
> ok though ?
> > >
> > > Nancy Silk <silkwinddachs@c...> wrote:Great clip!
> > > Looks like it will be out late spring?
> > > Hints of Indiana Jones....
> > > Yes, I've got the move "Raise the Titanic" -- very long, very
> boring, but
> > > the sound track is wonderful.
> > > Found the sound track after about 8 yrs of looking!
> > >
> > > Nancy buried in 3 feet of snow in Utah
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> > > Date: 01/13/05 16:38:43
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> > > Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] SAHARA - Movie Trailer
> > >
> > >
> > > Watch this trailer and tell me what you think?
> > >
> > > Matthew McConehey (I know that isnt spelled right) doesnt sem
as bad
> > > as it once did.  Im afraid that Al thought is a bad casting
job, but I
> > > dont want to pass judgement, we will have to wait and see.
> > >
> > > Check out the trailer here
> > >
> > > http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist
> > > dll?id=1314619&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400
> > >
> > > Post your comments here, at least we know it must be better
than the
> > > original Raise the Titanic movie!  Did anyone actually see
that?
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OK I got it, just went to Yahoo movies and saw it there. and I agree
Zahn is a bad fit for Al. Al is a stocky Italian I think that was he
was descibed in one if the books as a beer keg with arms and legs
and just as strong. not a comedy sidekick but a man that would
follow Dirk into a volcano with no questions asked and ready to back
Dirk up in a fight or take the fight himself. but I will hold futher
judgement till I see it on March 25th. but the script is one that CC
did not approve of. but it has to be better than "Raise the Titanic"
Baba



--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Justin.Fog@t... wrote:
> I entirely agree - Louis L'Amour is possibly the very best western
writer
> ever, and his Sackett series is the best western series, closely
followed by
> the William W. Johnstone western series.
>
> Pete
>
>
>   -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>   Von: wask21 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
>   Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Januar 2005 03:42
>   An: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
>   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit for Al
>
>
>
>   Yeah, I was thinking of Louis L'amour.  I think it is in every
book he
>   ever wrote! haha.  There is even one of the Sackett trilogy that
bears
>   that name....
>
>   LL is right there for #1 with Clive in my book... I could go on,
but
>   that is for another group... haha
>
>
>
>
>   --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Justin.Fog@t...
wrote:
>   > William W. Johnstone used that phrase very often. I love his
books. He
>   > passed away last April.
>   >
>   > I don't know if Louis L'Amour ever used that term...
>   >
>   > Pete
>   >
>   >
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>   >   Betreff: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] Steve Zahn = Bad Fit
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>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   "And Al Giordino is a guy who'd do to ride the river with
anytime"
>   >
>   >   That is an expression that is pretty much associated with
one really
>   >   well known author, anyone know who? Im betting that Justin
does.
>   >
>   >   Im a big fan of his, I figure Im not the only one (I'll give
you a
>   >   hint, he has millions of westerns in print today.)
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I can't believe I forgot James Lee Burke, like the
Dave Robichaux series. Also Vince Flynn and Tom
Clancy.
Joe R Lansdale is pretty good too, but some of his
books are really graphic. I like the Hap and Leonard
books, He wrote one of the strangest westerns I have
ever read, it's called "The Magic Wagon".
--- speed10@... wrote:

> Many of the ones below including Preston & Childs,
> Crichton, Ludlum,
> Grisham, Johnstone, Nelson DeMille, Michael
> Cecilione, James Lee Burke,
> Stephen Coonts, Dale Brown, Dean Koontz, and F. Paul
> Wilson (men only on
> that list though the female list is equally
> long....) Oh and Jim Butcher.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Matthews" <hjm8163@...>
> To: <clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] What do you
> read other than Clive
> Cussler?
>
>
> >
> > My Favorite writers , Besides  Cussler; are Jack
> Du
> > Brul, Lincoln Preston & Douglas Childs, Michael
> > Crichton, Robert Ludlum, Neil Gaiman, Tim Powers,
> > Robert McCammon, Terry Brooks. Also Grisham, Zane
> > Grey, William Johnstone, L'Amour, and Elmer
> Kelton.
> >
> > Jack Du Brul is really good. I f you like Cussler
> you
> > will definitely like his books.
> >
> > --- wask21 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What else do you read other than CC?
> >>
> >> It is a curious thing.
> >>
> >> Personally, I read my Bible (Im a youth pastor),
> >> Louis L'amour and
> >> Grisham are my other two big ones.  I own
> probably
> >> 3/4 of the books
> >> that LL ever wrote.  Working on getting the rest.
> >>
> >> I also like several other western writers as
> well.
> >>
> >>
> >> My dad reads everything so when my wife and I go
> in
> >> for holidays for
> >> vacation, I pick his brain as to what was good
> then
> >> raid his book
> >> collection.  Its cheaper that way =)
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Hard SF like Peter F Hamilton, Stephen Baxter and Larry Niven.

~Vash ~


What else do you read other than CC?

Vash <vash@...> wrote:I enjoy Lee Child,Dean Koontz, Richard North
Patteson, StephanCoonts,James Lee Burke, Robert Crais, Stephen Fry, and of
course Tom Clancy.


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you need to have download the flash player 7 in order to see it. try that and if
it doesnt work let me know u can email here or me directly. names lori i have
read almost all clive's books gotta say the sahara was mt favorite apart from
the sea hunters.i am studing to be an anthropologist, and archeologist with
maritime. thats a little abouit me i am also a single parent of one 18 hr at
college and a fulltime job. well adios

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A couple of classic things happened in Black Wind, Im about half way through,
but sort of
out of character was Rudi Gunn in a panic and yelling "Get me the vice
president!"


thats all Im going to say, dont want to give anythig away, but I think we all
know who the
VP is according to Kurt Austins last adventure...


"classic"