Hi,

I'm a newcomer to this group, and may just be passing through. We've read all
the Clive Cussler books that have been published (we think). My reason for
joining this group as detailed below.

Some years ago, I met this "old codger",  who told me he had been in the RAF
during the war. He was posted to an airfield somewhere in Scotland. All the
aircrew seemed to have unlimited access to an old drophead Bently. When he
queried who owned it, he was told that the owner had been killed when his
plane was shot down.
This Bentley was extremely rapid, he told me.  Anyway, he had a few days
leave (furlow), and when he returned to camp, the Bentley was no longer
present. On asking, he was told that it had been driven into a nearby loch.
End of story.

I would be interested to learn whether a car that had spent sixty odd year
underwater is worth recovering? Assuming that it is still there? Assuming it
can be found?

A "Land Speed Record" car, called Babs, crashed on a Welsh beach killing it's
driver. It was buried at the site. This was sometime in the twenties. Forty
odd years later, it was dug up again. Tyres were still inlated, and there was
still a smell of burnt brake lining. The car is now up and running again,
although it spends a lot of time on display in the local museum.

Bluebird, Donald Cambells water speed record boat has just been dragged out
of Coniston Water, is it forty years after it crashed at 300mph? All things
considered
it looked in surprisingly good shape.

So, do I want to book a holiday in Scotland?

602


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I think for Al Sylvester Stallone is the only he has the body,
italian like and tallness. But it will be difficult to make him play
the second man.




--- In clivecusslerfanclub@y..., babaoriely76 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
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> Clooney wouldnt be bad but for Al I think they should find an
> unknown.I dont know of anybody that fits his body frame
>
> Baba
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> --- In clivecusslerfanclub@y..., "somewierdalien"
> <somewierdalien@y...> wrote:
> > I have to keep thinking George Clooney, I just found out that he
is
> a
> > big fan of Mr. Cussler.  I think he is the right age and looks
> pretty
> > good.  I also have heard a rumor about Matthew McCounaghey(or
> however
> > you spell it).  I think those are both great picks.  Better that
> > Jackman because he is an Aussie and it is just one more detail
that
> > fans will pick apart.  My big question is who for Giordino?

I know everyone has done this so I will put in my 2 cents. Let me know
what you think.


Dirk Pitt: Viggo Mortensen (He's in Lord of the Rings)
Al Giordino: Matt LeBlanc (Italian, athletic, not extreamly tall,
great comedic timing)
Admiral Sandecker: William Devane (Played John F Kennedy and other
military rolls, smokes cigars and is the right age)
Rudi Gunn: Steve Buscemi (need I say more)
Hiram Yeager: David Hyde Pierce. (long hair and he's a hippi computer
geek)
Eva Rojas: Jennifer Lopez or Roslyn Sanchez.

No way on LaBlanc not big enogh in the chest someone else said
Stallone I dont think I could take his growl every 5 min. As far as
the admiral William H. Macy was is  already signed for it last I
heard. I like Yeager, and Gunn. how about Dom Delliwese or how ever u
spell it Burt Renoylds buddy for St. Jullian. Which one was Viggo?

Baba









--- In clivecusslerfanclub@y..., "kang1mburke" <Kang1MBurke@n...>
wrote:
> I know everyone has done this so I will put in my 2 cents. Let me
know
> what you think.
>
>
> Dirk Pitt: Viggo Mortensen (He's in Lord of the Rings)
> Al Giordino: Matt LeBlanc (Italian, athletic, not extreamly tall,
> great comedic timing)
> Admiral Sandecker: William Devane (Played John F Kennedy and other
> military rolls, smokes cigars and is the right age)
> Rudi Gunn: Steve Buscemi (need I say more)
> Hiram Yeager: David Hyde Pierce. (long hair and he's a hippi
computer
> geek)
> Eva Rojas: Jennifer Lopez or Roslyn Sanchez.

According to Carole Bartholomeaux, who is Clive Cusslers Publicist(?
spelling), NO ONE has been cast yet, NO director has been signed on
yet.Crusader Entertainment has postponed filming until April 2003 or
May 2003, they haven't even told CC anything and they have put a gag
order or Carole's company. So no information is available and
everything out there right now is just RUMORS. So hopfully we (the
fans) won't be disappointed.  If anyone wants to know My info came
from Carole at carole@...  Visit the NUMA web site at
www.numa.net.  Visit Crusader at www.crusaderentertainment.com you
can vote for your choice of who to play Dirk. Also their is a message
board for Clive Cussler at simonsays.com/cussler (I'm known as
pebbles) come by and join in the active discussions.

Debbie

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regards

Fred

go to cnn.com   click on entertainment    pan down to books and click
on interview link.  I did not watch this, I just read the interview.
If anyone watched it I would like your "take" on his answer to
the "sahara" questions.  To me it sounded as if he may not have as
much control over casting as he was led to believe.

Debbie

I can't find the "book" link you are referring to.

A search of the site doesn't turn up this interview either.

Have you got the URL?

~ Vash ~

-----Original Message-----
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To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] CNN-Cussler interview


go to cnn.com   click on entertainment    pan down to books and click
on interview link.  I did not watch this, I just read the interview.
If anyone watched it I would like your "take" on his answer to
the "sahara" questions.  To me it sounded as if he may not have as
much control over casting as he was led to believe.

Debbie


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Vash,  when you go to www.cnn.com  on the front page there is an
entertainment tab  click on it, then on that page there is a book
tab, both are about midway down on the actual page not on the side or
top, Dr cusslers picture is displayed under the book tab. Now I'm a
little ignorant about "Url"s but if you mean the address then his is
what it showed in the address line
www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/12/02/cnna.cussler/index.html I hope
this helps you get to the site

Debbie



--- In clivecusslerfanclub@y..., "Vash" <vash@k...> wrote:
> I can't find the "book" link you are referring to.
>
> A search of the site doesn't turn up this interview either.
>
> Have you got the URL?
>
> ~ Vash ~
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deb [mailto:fhockeyf@y...]
> Sent: 04 December 2002 20:50
> To: clivecusslerfanclub@y...
> Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] CNN-Cussler interview
>
>
> go to cnn.com   click on entertainment    pan down to books and
click
> on interview link.  I did not watch this, I just read the
interview.
> If anyone watched it I would like your "take" on his answer to
> the "sahara" questions.  To me it sounded as if he may not have as
> much control over casting as he was led to believe.
>
> Debbie
>
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Still couldn't see the book tab.  But the direct link is working fine.
Thanks.

I'm now reading it!

~ Vash ~

-----Original Message-----
From: Deb [mailto:fhockeyf@...]
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Subject: Re: [Clive Cussler fan club] CNN-Cussler interview


Vash,  when you go to www.cnn.com  on the front page there is an
entertainment tab  click on it, then on that page there is a book
tab, both are about midway down on the actual page not on the side or
top, Dr cusslers picture is displayed under the book tab. Now I'm a
little ignorant about "Url"s but if you mean the address then his is
what it showed in the address line
www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/12/02/cnna.cussler/index.html I hope
this helps you get to the site

Debbie



--- In clivecusslerfanclub@y..., "Vash" <vash@k...> wrote:
> I can't find the "book" link you are referring to.
>
> A search of the site doesn't turn up this interview either.
>
> Have you got the URL?
>
> ~ Vash ~
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deb [mailto:fhockeyf@y...]
> Sent: 04 December 2002 20:50
> To: clivecusslerfanclub@y...
> Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] CNN-Cussler interview
>
>
> go to cnn.com   click on entertainment    pan down to books and
click
> on interview link.  I did not watch this, I just read the
interview.
> If anyone watched it I would like your "take" on his answer to
> the "sahara" questions.  To me it sounded as if he may not have as
> much control over casting as he was led to believe.
>
> Debbie
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> clivecusslerfanclub-unsubscribe@y...
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does anyone know where at national airport dirk pitt's (fictional)
home is, or would be, located? if you can pinpoint an area, i'd be
grateful. TIA.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/12/02/cnna.cussler/index.html



> From: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 5 Dec 2002 12:16:54 -0000
> To: clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Clive Cussler fan club] Digest Number 53
>
> Have you got the URL?

not tom cruise to play dirk...he is the worst possible
choice.  clive started to say  it is out of my...  and
was interrupted.is it out of his hands who plays
dirk...i thought HE had star and director approval???

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It is starting to look like he doesn't have the "creative control"
that he was supposed to have, while I will see the movie, I will wait
till it is released on video/dvd, if Tom Cruise is cast to play Dirk
Pitt.  I do not think Cruise has the "right stuff" to pull this off.


--- In clivecusslerfanclub@y..., travelershome <travelershome@y...>
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> not tom cruise to play dirk...he is the worst possible
> choice.  clive started to say  it is out of my...  and
> was interrupted.is it out of his hands who plays
> dirk...i thought HE had star and director approval???
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This is a very depressing topic. I am really looking forward to the
new movie and have refrained from writing anything on the topic
of "cast" until now. I had been trusting the fact that Dr. Cussler
has total control of cast approval. Now I'm worried...I know that Dr.
Cussler would not even think about Tom Cruise unless there was some
unknown force at play here. Now don't get me wrong, I think Tom
Cruise is a great actor and has done a great job with the roles he
has been given, but Dirk Pitt is different. You cannot cast a
5'8"
boyish faced actor for a weathered 6'4" manly part. We all have
our
ideas of what Dirk should look like and we have arrived at those
conclusions after reading the descriptions in our beloved books. I
have to tell you that I have always pictured a younger Tom Selleck as
being Dirk Pitt, and if I'm not mistaken, Dr. Cussler
himself,also
stated at one time that he first pictured Selleck as Dirk Pitt. Now
how can we go from Selleck to Cruise??? We all remember too well the
tragedy of "Raise the Titanic" on film. I would hate to look back
on "Sahara", 5 or 10 years down the road and say..."geesh that would
have been such a great movie if they would have only had the right
actor." I am not sure of the time limits that have been set for this
movie but I would gladly wait another 5 years if it meant that the
right actor would be cast for Dirk. I have heard some good
suggestions including David James Elliot and Hugh Jackman, both
smaller names that would allow you to focus more on "Dirk Pitt" and
not the actor playing him. Now please keep in mind, this is only my
opinion but at least take a moment to reread ANY of the books and
after doing so, look up a picture of Tom Cruise and ask
yourself..."Is he even close?"
Take care
Still Hoping
NUMA Diver







--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Deb" <fhockeyf@y...>
wrote:
> It is starting to look like he doesn't have the "creative control"
> that he was supposed to have, while I will see the movie, I will
wait
> till it is released on video/dvd, if Tom Cruise is cast to play
Dirk
> Pitt.  I do not think Cruise has the "right stuff" to pull this off.

I could not agree more having Tom Cruise play Dirk Pitt would make me
puke. Personally I dont like him that much and dont think of him as a
good actor. although I did like him in "Far and Away". The reason CC
hasnt done a movie since the disaster "Titanic" he wanted total
control now he has seemed to have lost that. But like NUMA diver I
always pitured a young Tom Selleck as Dirk. If the little guy Cruise
is cast you have to have the guy that played Minime play Al. I'm not
sure I will see it or not.
Baba




--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "numa_diver
<NUMA_Diver@h...>" <NUMA_Diver@h...> wrote:
> This is a very depressing topic. I am really looking forward to the
> new movie and have refrained from writing anything on the topic
> of "cast" until now. I had been trusting the fact that Dr. Cussler
> has total control of cast approval. Now I'm worried...I know that
Dr.
> Cussler would not even think about Tom Cruise unless there was some
> unknown force at play here. Now don't get me wrong, I think Tom
> Cruise is a great actor and has done a great job with the roles he
> has been given, but Dirk Pitt is different. You cannot cast a
> 5'8"
> boyish faced actor for a weathered 6'4" manly part. We all have
> our
> ideas of what Dirk should look like and we have arrived at those
> conclusions after reading the descriptions in our beloved books. I
> have to tell you that I have always pictured a younger Tom Selleck
as
> being Dirk Pitt, and if I'm not mistaken, Dr. Cussler
> himself,also
> stated at one time that he first pictured Selleck as Dirk Pitt. Now
> how can we go from Selleck to Cruise??? We all remember too well
the
> tragedy of "Raise the Titanic" on film. I would hate to look back
> on "Sahara", 5 or 10 years down the road and say..."geesh that
would
> have been such a great movie if they would have only had the right
> actor." I am not sure of the time limits that have been set for
this
> movie but I would gladly wait another 5 years if it meant that the
> right actor would be cast for Dirk. I have heard some good
> suggestions including David James Elliot and Hugh Jackman, both
> smaller names that would allow you to focus more on "Dirk Pitt" and
> not the actor playing him. Now please keep in mind, this is only my
> opinion but at least take a moment to reread ANY of the books and
> after doing so, look up a picture of Tom Cruise and ask
> yourself..."Is he even close?"
> Take care
> Still Hoping
> NUMA Diver
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Deb" <fhockeyf@y...>
> wrote:
> > It is starting to look like he doesn't have the "creative
control"
> > that he was supposed to have, while I will see the movie, I will
> wait
> > till it is released on video/dvd, if Tom Cruise is cast to play
> Dirk
> > Pitt.  I do not think Cruise has the "right stuff" to pull this
off.

Hija all,

I also think Cruise is not the right man.
Ok, he is charming and attractive in a way, but I
don't think he has the rough edge Pitt has. And he is
certainly not as tall. At the moment I can't think of
someone else, although he should be american, like
Pitt.
The movie is on my seeing list, that's for sure.

Regards,

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It says that he plans on retiring.  This is because he wants to keep
Dirk's quality high and does not want to get sloppy with his books
(Valhalla Rising is a good example).  This is really sad but it says
that he plans to be a creative director for spin-off books that other
writers will do.  He said something about one called "The Oregon
Chronicles" which I would love because I am a native Oregonian who
lives near Portland.  It would be so neat if any of the towns that I
have lived in would be in those books.  Plus it would be cool to see
a Giordino spinoff.
My question is this:
What type(s) of spinoffs would you like to see made about the NUMA
universe?

I am planning on making a fan club of all of our favorite little
Italian, Albert Cassius Giordino.  Does anyone know where I can get
some good fan-drawings of him?  Also, would anyone here be interested?

I read on CNN this morning that Cussler is retiring after his next
book that will be finished in April. If that doesnt suck I don't know
what does...

Go to www.crusaderentertainment.com and vote for your choice to play
Pitt then go to the contact page and email them to let them know that
you don't agree with Tom Cruise playing Pitt.  Maybe if enough of us
fans do this they may eventually listen!!!!

when i was told by a representative of clive's that
hugh was who he wanted for the part, i wrote to all
the hugh web sites and told them to go the the
crusader site and vote for him.  i even wrote to his
agents in the usa, australia and in the uk.  he had
not yet signed up for the vampire killer movie he is
now filming.  i told him what this could do for his
career-  i voted at the crusader site myself many many
times  fir the man that clive wanted for dirk---all to
no avail.  i wonder if crusader cares one way of the
other  pamela shearheart

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I realize it is probably a pipe dream but Its Christmas time.  LOL  I
know it probably won't really mean anything but maybe by actually
emailing them and not just voting they will eventually listen.  (let
me have my fantasies....lol)



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<travelershome@y...> wrote:
> when i was told by a representative of clive's that
> hugh was who he wanted for the part, i wrote to all
> the hugh web sites and told them to go the the
> crusader site and vote for him.  i even wrote to his
> agents in the usa, australia and in the uk.  he had
> not yet signed up for the vampire killer movie he is
> now filming.  i told him what this could do for his
> career-  i voted at the crusader site myself many many
> times  fir the man that clive wanted for dirk---all to
> no avail.  i wonder if crusader cares one way of the
> other  pamela shearheart
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i did that as well.  i wrote to the man incharge in
that area and he wrote back a one line message that he
would keep my ideas in mind...or something to that
effect.  i even wrote to the local  (Denver)
billionaire who not only has a monetary interest in
crusager film, but owns the regentcy theaters.  i
wrote to any and all i knew of, knew or had contacts
through others via friends  in the business in the la
area.    so it is jul  but would any of them listen to
me...nope  of course i was on this crusade back in the
summer.  i had clives home address as he had written
to me a few years ago and recently acquired his email
address in AZ.  he was very appreciative of my
efforts, but hugh made his own decision to take the
vamipire killer part.  clive even held back filming to
wait for hugh to finish X2,  he took the other part.
oh, well is all i can say.. he simply has no clue as
to how popular these books are despite the fact that i
mentioned how many of clive's books were on the ny
best seller list, nor does he seem to realize the
impact that this character could have on his career  a
combination of indiana jones and jack ryan   .  his
loss

pamela shearheart

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My dad used to say that if you don't want something you have to let
someone know and often.  So this is my thought behind doing this. to
keep it up and maybe the right person will finally listen. but if we
have to settle for TC maybe well be lucky and get a better one for
the next movie.  I hate having to "settle" because I feel that the
character should be played by someone who would be believeable not
just a "star".




--- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, travelershome
<travelershome@y...> wrote:
> i did that as well.  i wrote to the man incharge in
> that area and he wrote back a one line message that he
> would keep my ideas in mind...or something to that
> effect.  i even wrote to the local  (Denver)
> billionaire who not only has a monetary interest in
> crusager film, but owns the regentcy theaters.  i
> wrote to any and all i knew of, knew or had contacts
> through others via friends  in the business in the la
> area.    so it is jul  but would any of them listen to
> me...nope  of course i was on this crusade back in the
> summer.  i had clives home address as he had written
> to me a few years ago and recently acquired his email
> address in AZ.  he was very appreciative of my
> efforts, but hugh made his own decision to take the
> vamipire killer part.  clive even held back filming to
> wait for hugh to finish X2,  he took the other part.
> oh, well is all i can say.. he simply has no clue as
> to how popular these books are despite the fact that i
> mentioned how many of clive's books were on the ny
> best seller list, nor does he seem to realize the
> impact that this character could have on his career  a
> combination of indiana jones and jack ryan   .  his
> loss
>
> pamela shearheart
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deb

i quite agree about asking often.  i wrote also to
this site and asked the members to write to the
crusader site. perhaps your asking will prompt them to
do so as well.

as for tc  how much worse a choice could he be.  he is
so unbelievably unsuited to play this part--i have not
many words for it.  he is just SO not the right man.
it is not just is appearance, his tiny size or his
"star" power.  it is the many himself.

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While I like a few of his movies I didn't have a "preset" notion of
what the character should look like that he played. He is to "full"
of himself and "pretty".  I didn't watch mission impossible because I
didn't think he was right for the part but..... I will continue to
plead with other fans on other sites to start voiceing their
opinions. Clive Cussler should have to concide to "star power" to
sell his ideas.

Debbie



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<travelershome@y...> wrote:
> deb
>
> i quite agree about asking often.  i wrote also to
> this site and asked the members to write to the
> crusader site. perhaps your asking will prompt them to
> do so as well.
>
> as for tc  how much worse a choice could he be.  he is
> so unbelievably unsuited to play this part--i have not
> many words for it.  he is just SO not the right man.
> it is not just is appearance, his tiny size or his
> "star" power.  it is the many himself.
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i quite agree with your assessmentof tc.  i encourage
your continued voicing of  your views about who should
play dirk.  they have already started preproduction
or ratherstarted it just after all my mailings.  i do
not know where they are at this point/  i know some
parts have been cast, but not the dirk part.

gotta run--time to go to work.  thanks for the mail

pamela

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-I agree with you Pamala and Deb I just went to the web site voted
and sent an e-mail voicing my concerns over them being stupid and
casting a midget to play Dirk. If there was ever a part for him NOT
to play its Dirk. I hope all CC fans voice your opinuon to Crusade
you never know what might happen

BABA










-- In clivecusslerfanclub@yahoogroups.com, travelershome
<travelershome@y...> wrote:
> i quite agree with your assessmentof tc.  i encourage
> your continued voicing of  your views about who should
> play dirk.  they have already started preproduction
> or ratherstarted it just after all my mailings.  i do
> not know where they are at this point/  i know some
> parts have been cast, but not the dirk part.
>
> gotta run--time to go to work.  thanks for the mail
>
> pamela
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