I am of the opinion that Pemberton acquitted himself well enough during the campaign. He just ran up against Grant. I'm just wondering what you folks think. 1....
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Keith Giordano
keg032461
Jan 2, 2013 12:20 pm
I personally think Johnston was more to blame. Sent from my iPhone...
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 2, 2013 12:58 pm
Grant, up until that second charge, had mounted campaign Napoleonic in strategy and operational execution, if not in scope. Like Napoleon on the Iberian...
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hank9174
Jan 2, 2013 2:22 pm
Johnston did little to help and Pemberton allowed himself to be trapped in a fixed position. Davis did nothing to break the stalemate. placing 35,000 troops in...
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rbaquero@...
rbaquero8
Jan 2, 2013 2:39 pm
The RIGHT questions is; " was Grant a murder or a genocide after 47 days of Vicksburg's city bombardment ? ... From: "callicles1" <callicles1@...> To:...
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 2, 2013 2:57 pm
Hello. They lacked the skill set. Blaming them and ignoring Grant begs the issue. Regards, Jack...
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 2, 2013 3:25 pm
Since the Confederacy never laid siege to a major Northern City except, possibly, Nashville, we need to look elsewhere for a Confederate behavior vis a' vis...
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Jack Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 2, 2013 3:36 pm
If we blame Johnston, we are de facto blaming Davis. Regards, Jack ... From: Keith Giordano To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013...
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Pamela Kirklin
pamelaxyz
Jan 2, 2013 5:00 pm
A combination of seige warfare wearing down the men and taking the war to the people. ________________________________ From: Keith Giordano...
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Ronald black
tarafoxie
Jan 2, 2013 8:37 pm
Mr. Baquero, When you imply that Grant was a murderer because of civilian casualties incurred during the 47 day siege as you state, you are judging him using...
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"Holger KlaÃ...
bucquoy@...
Jan 2, 2013 8:44 pm
I think Pemberton wasn't that bad, I remind Foote calling it something like: "Pemberton was inflexible, but he was in a position where a more flexible man...
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Jack Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 2, 2013 9:06 pm
I live 30 miles from Lexington and was in Harpers ferry in October. Not sure I would call them Cities, let alone northern cities. Your comment on Confederate...
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Jack Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 2, 2013 9:09 pm
Grant had his moments. what made the second attack at Vicksburg appalling was that, in retrospect, it was a warm up for the second attack at Cold Harbor. In...
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Ned Baldwin
ned_baldwin
Jan 3, 2013 1:53 am
Same with blaming Pemberton....
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 3, 2013 1:57 am
There you go. Regards, Jack Maybe this is why there us no study if command for the Confederacy?...
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drummytommer
Jan 3, 2013 5:31 pm
HI, Newbie here. Does anyone know of a mod or alternate scenario to the HPS Simulations game "Campaign Chickamauga" which covers the McLemore's Cove incident?...
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"Holger KlaÃ...
bucquoy@...
Jan 4, 2013 10:25 am
Hi! Didn't even know the game, but after checking I must say I' like to have this one. Does anybody know how to get it in Germany? I have no credit card and...
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Tony
tony_gunter
Jan 9, 2013 5:38 pm
... Can I answer this in multiple parts? :) Grant's Yazoo Pass raid, though turned back at Fort Pemberton, had a major impact on Pemberton's ability to defend...
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Tony
tony_gunter
Jan 9, 2013 5:52 pm
Sorry, meant to say: BAD: Pemberton really should have spent some energy developing intel on the area south of the railroad. When the sh*t hit the fan,...
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"Holger KlaÃ...
bucquoy@...
Jan 9, 2013 7:35 pm
This mistake on Johntson's part is new to me. One might guess what drove him: fear for a raid against his LOC or some part of eastern MS / western AL, or...
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 9, 2013 7:54 pm
Another way to look at it was this Grant's 7th try and he only had to win once. Regards, Jack...
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William Nolan
sixtxcavrgtcsa
Jan 9, 2013 8:40 pm
Johnston was not the most aggressive general. The Cavalry was on the Black River in May and was available. It was also trained as Infantry, so it was capable...
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Tony
tony_gunter
Jan 9, 2013 8:42 pm
It wasn't Grant's 7th try. It was his first full campaign on Vicksburg. His overland attempt was aborted by Lincoln and Halleck at Oxford, MS. The next...
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 9, 2013 9:04 pm
Yazoo, canal, they all count. 7 tries. Regards, Jack...
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Tony
tony_gunter
Jan 9, 2013 9:44 pm
... Also UGLY, but not part of the original question: Governor Pettus of Mississippi, for keeping his state cavalry units dispersed to the counties in which...
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Tony
tony_gunter
Jan 9, 2013 11:31 pm
... Anyone who faults a plan for having multiple contingencies is probably not going to be very successful at planning anything. If Burnside planned his...
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 9, 2013 11:36 pm
Not sure we are going here. Historically, Grant tried seven different ways into Vicksburg. If you want to call it two, OK. Regards, Jack...
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John Lawrence
jlawrence@...
Jan 9, 2013 11:39 pm
Grant's canal. Jack...
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Tony
tony_gunter
Jan 9, 2013 11:57 pm
... Historically, secondary resources have all claimed that the Lake Providence canal was a failure (with the sole exception of Brooks Simpson). In fact, Ed...
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Tony
tony_gunter
Jan 9, 2013 11:59 pm
... So we are not only faulting Grant for multiple contigencies, we are faulting him for triplicating his infrastructure efforts? IF that's so, you are...
