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Welcome Mr. Latham
My apologies for the late salutation and my regards and hardiest welcome to
"were the war was really fought".

George Reed
AKA cob
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Latham <kennethlatham@...>
To: civilwarwest@egroups.com <civilwarwest@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 8:21 PM
Subject: [civilwarwest] Hello


>Hello Group,
>  I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Ken Latham and I am from
>Middle Tennessee. I am a recent grad and will be going after my Master's in
>Museum Studies in the spring. I have an insatiable thirst for anything
Western
>Theatre. I have been reenacting for over six years and have recently begun
>studying interpretive history and firstperson recreation.
>  I hope that I will be of value here, almost as much as I hope to share in
>the wealth of knowledge that comes from groups such as this.
>-Ken
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#326

From: WOLF17X7@...
Date: Sat Jan 1, 2000 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: Hello

WOLF17X7@...

If you are interested in the study of actions in the Ozark region that is my
speciality.Write anytime my primary study is Cavalry operations here(NW
Arkansas and SW Missouri).

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#327

From: Autumn0102@...
Date: Sun Jan 2, 2000 1:32 pm
Subject: another question

Autumn0102@...

Hey guys!
      I have yet another question..I looked for the answer, but couldn't find
it..maybe you guys can help...What were Buford, Chamberlain, Longstreet, and
Lee's feelings and attitudes towards A.) War in general B.)The Civil War and
C.)why were they, PERSONALLY, fighting the Civil War
           I appreciate any help I recieve...Thanks!!
                   Autumn

#328

From: "Dick Weeks" <shotgun@...>
Date: Sun Jan 2, 2000 11:28 pm
Subject: Re: another question

shotgun@...

Hi Autumn,

Not quite in the Western Theater but I will try to help. This is not a terribly hard question but one that does requires some thought. Here is my opinion.

Of the four you mentioned, three, Lee, Buford (I assume you mean John and not his half brother Napoleon), and Longstreet, were professional soldiers. Like all professional soldiers, then and now, they hated war but were fully prepared to fight it. They had trained all their lives for this. That's what soldiering is about. They were fighting because that's what they did, train for and fight wars. Of the three, I expect Lee was the most upset by the war. Not for the killing and destruction he knew was to come, he could accept "empty chairs" at the table, but because of being torn between loyalty to his country and loyalty to his state. In a letter he wrote to his sister on April 20, 1861 he said, "....I had to meet the question whether I should take part against my native State. With all my devotion to the Union, and the feeling of loyalty and duty of an American citizen, I have not been able to make up my mind to raise my hand against my relatives, my children, my home. I have therefore resigned my commission in the army, and save in defence of my native State, with the sincere hope that my poor services may never be needed, I hope I may never be called on to draw my sword".

Now about the other gentleman you named, Josh Chamberlain. He was the farthest thing from a "professional soldier". He was a school teacher by trade. A professor at Bowdoin College (Maine) before the war, and had no training for war, nor did he relish the idea of fighting one. However, he was intensely loyal to the Union and felt he had to do something. He took a "sabbatical" from his college, telling no one what he was going to do, and went to the state capitol to join. He was offered the command of a state regiment but refused, feeling himself inadequate to command and preferred to get his training in war as second in command. From his long hours huddled next to the dead on the slopes of Maryre's Height's, to the jagged granite outcrop known as Little Round Top, to the trenches at Petersburg, and finally to the tear filled eyes at Appomattox, Chamberlain was the perfect example of the "Citizen Soldier" that this country has called on so many times in our history.

Remember, this is my opinion only and may or may not have any basis in fact.

I am, very respectfully, your obedient servant,

Dick (a.k.a. Shotgun)

http://www.civilwarhome.

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Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 10:32 AM

Subject: [civilwarwest] another question

> Hey guys!
>      I have yet another question..I looked for the answer, but couldn't find
> it..maybe you guys can help...What were Buford, Chamberlain, Longstreet, and
> Lee's feelings and attitudes towards A.) War in general B.)The Civil War and
> C.)why were they, PERSONALLY, fighting the Civil War
>           I appreciate any help I recieve...Thanks!!
>                   Autumn
>
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#329

From: "Richard W. Byers" <rbyers7513@...>
Date: Mon Jan 3, 2000 1:31 am
Subject: HOWDY

rbyers7513@...

Hello everyone,

My name's Rich and I came to this group through Shotun's website (check
it out if you haven't already, it's great).  I've had a great interest
in the Civil War for many years (don't ask how many) and although I've
picked a lot of information over the years I hope to pick up a lot more
from the wealth of knowledge out there.  Looking forward to discussions
with you all.

Your obedient servant.

#330

From: "Richard W. Byers" <rbyers7513@...>
Date: Mon Jan 3, 2000 2:08 am
Subject: HOWDY

rbyers7513@...

Hello everyone,

My name's Rich and I came to this group through Shotgun's website
(check it out if you haven't already, it's great).  I've had a great
interest in the Civil War for many years now (don't ask just how many)
and although I've picked up a lot of information over the years I hope
to pick up a lot more from the wealth of knowledge that's out there.
Looking forward to discussions with you all.

Your obedient servant.

#331

From: Autumn0102@...
Date: Mon Jan 3, 2000 2:52 am
Subject: thanks again!

Autumn0102@...

Thank you SO MUCH Dick!!  Man, you really know your stuff!!  I had basically
re-read the Killer Angels before I checked my mail....your summary was a lot
easier to go back to...So thanks again...Well, this is really short, but I
gotta attempt sleep again..I go back to school tomorrow..and I cannot sleep
at all...and I have to get up in about 4 and a half hours...yuck!
                      Thanks!
                           Autumn

#332

From: "Steve Charles" <gunner@...>
Date: Mon Jan 3, 2000 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: thanks again!

gunner@...

Autumn,
Remember, Killer Angles is just a novel. While it is based on historical
people and events, Shaara did use his poetic license in more than a few
spots.
Steve Charles
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From: Autumn0102@... <Autumn0102@...>
To: civilwarwest@egroups.com <civilwarwest@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 02, 2000 10:17 PM
Subject: [civilwarwest] thanks again!


>Thank you SO MUCH Dick!!  Man, you really know your stuff!!  I had
basically
>re-read the Killer Angels before I checked my mail....your summary was a
lot
>easier to go back to...So thanks again...Well, this is really short, but I
>gotta attempt sleep again..I go back to school tomorrow..and I cannot sleep
>at all...and I have to get up in about 4 and a half hours...yuck!
>                     Thanks!
>                          Autumn
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#333

From: Karen Hall <orvalbear@...>
Date: Mon Jan 3, 2000 11:48 pm
Subject: Civil War Musical

orvalbear@...

For Christmas i got a copy of the Civil War Musical CD and I am listening to
it for the first time tonight. i think it is wonderful. It is fun when it
needs to be (Like poking fun at US Grant) but I think does a good job at
brining the Civil war to life.
Has anyone seen it on the stage? What did you think?
Karen Hall





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#334

From: "Dick Weeks" <shotgun@...>
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 3:36 am
Subject: The War

shotgun@...

Good Evening fellow members,

I posted this over in a chat room earlier today and thought I would share it with the rest of you. I know it is not Western Theater peculiar but what the heck, since I set the room up, I guess I can bend the rules just a bit. I know that many of you, especially those of you have been studying the war for a while, always get to the question of it’s causes (don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to start a thread on this) and I thought perhaps you had not looked at it in this light before. This is an email I received and the answer I sent back.

I RECEIVED

Hi Shotgun (I'd say Mr. Shotgun but that's simply too corny),

As part of an assignment for my AP US History class, we have to have contact with an authority on the civil war. Your website has been a lot of help on my project and the essays and links have been particularly helpful.
Anyway, my question is, aside from slavery what do you think the #2 cause of the war was? Some of the ideas I had were sectionalization of political parties and northern dominence in economics I'd really
appreciate it if you'd get back to me.

I SENT

Hi,

First let me say that I, by no stretch of the imagination, put myself up as an authority on the late unpleasantness. I merely enjoy studying it. However I will help if I can. Since you say you have used my website I am going to assume that you found my page on the Causes of the War so I won't go into the many documents that are contained there. What I will tell you is my opinion.

You say you are looking for the 2nd cause of the war, with slavery being the first. When one thinks in these terms it conjures up a picture of an ole white "massa" sitting on his verandah sipping Mint Juleps while a cruel overseer is out back whipping the poor black slaves. Then here comes "honest" Abe and his "blue minions" to end this horrible injustice. What a crock! If this was the case why were the slaves in Maryland, Kentucky, Missouri, and Delaware not freed with the mighty freedom document the "Emancipation Proclamation." No my friend, I would propose that this was not about slavery as I just described it. It was about the "economics" that slavery represented. Let me try to explain.

"In 1800 the United States had exported $5,000,000 worth of cotton, or 7 percent of the nation's total exports. By 1810 this figure had tripled, by 1840 it had risen to $63,000,000 and by 1860 cotton exports were worth $191,000,000 or 57 percent of the value of American exports." Now given these numbers I think you can see where I am going with this. Bear in mind there was no "income tax" in those days to feed the federal coffers. The money came in the form of "tariffs" on goods going in and out of the country. The money that the sale of this cotton represented was a pretty healthy sum to the federal government.

Let me continue, "The South had become a cotton empire, nearly 4 million slaves were employed, and slavery looked like an absolutely essential element in Southern prosperity. But if slavery paid, it left men with uneasy consciences. This unease became the most obvious in the North, where a man who demanded the abolition of slavery could comfort himself with the reflection that the financial loss which abolition wound entail would, after all, be borne by somebody else– his neighbor to the South." The average person failed to consider what a financial loss this would be to the federal government in the form of tariff money. That is, at least in the short term until the full industrial might of the northern states could be realized. One other element of this equation I have not touched on is the seaports that the goods, from which the tariffs were realized, flowed. These ports were located for the most part in the South.

With the election of Lincoln, the South (or at least the powers in the South) thought that with the westward expansion and a president who leaned toward, if not openly avowed, the abolition of slavery, the collapse of the Southern economy would be inevitable. These powers, most of which were the big land owners , convinced the 75 percent of the white Southern population that did not own slaves that their right to be a sovereign state was coming to an end and the only way to maintain their independence was to secede from the Union and form their own confederation. The powers in the North on the other hand, saw that in they could ill afford to lose the wealth, and especially the seaports, in the South so they elected to hold them in the Union at all costs. By force of arms if necessary. The war came.

In summation, I would suggest to you that secession caused the war and the economics of slavery caused the secession. Just my opinion of course.

As I say on my website, "I am a Southerner by birth and a Rebel by choice. As I read and study, I pull for Lee, Jackson and Longstreet. As I live, I thank Grant, Lincoln, and Democracy." I will leave you with these words, written by one of my favorites in war, John B. Gordon late of the Confederate Army, "....the four years of fratricidal war between the North and South was waged by neither with criminal or unworthy intent, but by both to protect what they conceived to be threatened rights and imperiled liberty: that the issues which divided the sections were born when the Republic was born, and were forever buried in an ocean of fraternal blood."

I do thankee for indulging me with this rather verbose post. Now back to our regular programming :-)

I am, very respectfully, your obedient servant,
Dick (a.k.a. Shotgun)
http://www.civilwarhome.com

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#335

From: Nils.Feller@... (Nils Feller)
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 11:58 am
Subject: newbie

Nils.Feller@...

Hi everybody!
I'm new here (actually, this is my first ever discussion forum)and quite excited
about it.
My name is Nils Feller, I'm a history teacher from Germany -so please be
tolerant regarding my English- and got into the Civil War while visiting
Virginia a few years ago (yeah, I know, eastern theater...). So far, I've done
some basic reading, McPherson, Foote, Catton amd Jeffrey Wert's biography of
James Longstreet. As you see, I'm not as well read as you Civil War buffs, but
I'm willing to learn and open to suggestions. Can any of you recommend "The
White Tecumseh" by Stanley Hirshson? It's what I was planning to read next, but
I'd be glad if I could get some reviews by the experts...
I'm really looking forward to taking part in your future discussions, though I
doubt that I can actually contribute as much as you, but I'm here to learn!

#336

From: michael.d.cantor@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: newbie

michael.d.cantor@...

Nils:

Welcome aboard!  While I have not read "The White Tecumseh", I can point you to
Amazon.com, where a number of folks have posted reviews of the books.  Try this
link:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471175781/qid=946990547/sr=1-2/102-50910\
40-1215252

In addition, Barnes and Noble.com also has a number of reviews posted for the
book:

http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2XC5QSXY98&mscs\
sid=C791X7CJQSSH2NTK0017QU6ALC2HDSE1&srefer=&isbn=0471175781

Hope this helps!

Take care,

Mike Cantor

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#337

From: Dick Weeks <shotgun@...>
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: newbie

shotgun@...

Nils Feller wrote:

Hi everybody!
I'm new here (actually, this is my first ever discussion forum)and quite excited
about it.
My name is Nils Feller, I'm a history teacher from Germany -so please be
tolerant regarding my English- and got into the Civil War while visiting
Virginia a few years ago (yeah, I know, eastern theater...). So far, I've done
some basic reading, McPherson, Foote, Catton amd Jeffrey Wert's biography of
James Longstreet. As you see, I'm not as well read as you Civil War buffs, but
I'm willing to learn and open to suggestions. Can any of you recommend "The
White Tecumseh" by Stanley Hirshson? It's what I was planning to read next, but
I'd be glad if I could get some reviews by the experts...

Hi Nils,

Welcome to the Western Theater of the American Civil War. Glad to have you aboard. I can't speak to "White Tecumseh" since I haven't read it. However, it looks like, just from what you say you have read you are coming right along in your study of the late unpleasantness. Of course McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom" of course is a must read when studying anything about the Civil War. I, personally, love Shelby Foote (especially his trilogy of the war). Even though he is not a historian, he certainly tells a good story. If you get the chance, you should get the audio tape(s) "Stars in Their Courses" narrated by Foote. This is the part of his trilogy of war that deals with the three days at Gettysburg. The only thing I can say about Wert's Longstreet bio is that it beats the heck out of what Longstreet wrote about himself in "From Manassas to Appomattox". That was written more in defense of himself because of all the bad publicity he was getting at the time. By the way, some discussion of Longstreet is appropriate in this group. He did have some participation in the Western Theater. To me, he was a great Corps commander but did not have the capability of independent command (personal opinion). I could also say the same thing about Hood.
Speaking of Hood, during the holidays I did a little updating of my website. When I would looking at the Battles section I found that the page(s) for Nashville were sorely lacking in content so I starting adding data to it. While I only have about ORs on there right now (I will add a lot more as time allows) I do have quite a bit of other good information. If anyone is interested, that battle can be found at:

The Battle of Nashville
http://www.civilwarhome.com/nashville.htm

It would be nice if some of you experts in the this area would share some of your knowledge on Hood's foray into Tennessee with the rest of us. I have some difficulty in this area. I understand basically what he was trying to do and have some very basic knowledge of the debacle at Franklin, but for the life of me I have trouble understanding why he took his army to Nashville after being chewed up so bad at Franklin. Seems to me that seeing five of your finest commanders laid out dead on a front porch might tell you that it's time to reevaluate what you are trying to do. Hood, other than leaving little parts of his body on various battlefields, was a pretty good lower level commander, he showed this at Gettysburg, however, I'm not sure he should have ever been given command of an army. But given the choice of him or Joe Johnston, he might have been the lesser of two evils. One, Hood, loved to fight but really didn't know how, while the other, Johnston, probably knew how to fight but was very reluctant to do so. It is a puzzlement.

I am, very respectfully, your obedient servant,
Dick (a.k.a. Shotgun)
http://www.civilwarhome.com

#338

From: Hvonbork@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 11:13 am
Subject: Re: newbie

Hvonbork@...

Welcommen Nils-
         Relax.  Some of the postings here will make you feel quite
Shakesperean.
         Heros

#339

From: Rms1864@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 2:02 pm
Subject: Roscrans

Rms1864@...

Sir: I am currently studying the battle of stones river and was wondering if
anyone might be able to recommend a biography of roscrans.i would appreciate
anyone's help.sincerely, Roger Searcy

#340

From: DWer857628@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Roscrans

DWer857628@...

An oldie but still the best (in my opinion) is The Edge of GLory: A Biography
of General William S. Rosecrans, USA. The author is William Mathias Lamers
and the book was published in 1961 out of NY City by Harcourt, Brace.  A big
book, nearly 500 pages but read easily.

Enjoy!

Douglas Wertsch

#341

From: DWer857628@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: Roscrans

DWer857628@...

#342

From: DWer857628@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: Roscrans

DWer857628@...

An oldie but still the best (in my opinion) is The Edge of GLory: A Biography
of General William S. Rosecrans, USA. The author is William Mathias Lamers
and the book was published in 1961 out of NY City by Harcourt, Brace.  A big
book, nearly 500 pages but read easily.

Enjoy!

Douglas Wertsch

#343

From: "L.A. Chambliss" <xanthipp@...>
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: Roscrans

xanthipp@...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/080712396X/civilwarinteractA

Dear Roger and group,

"Edge of Glory" is available from amazon.com at

It was out of print for many years before being reissued by Louisiana State University Press last May. It does not, alas, seem to be selling very well at least according to Amazon's figures, so you might want to pick up a copy fairly soon as it seems unlikely they will do another printing.

Kevin Coy must be asleep, offline, or at work not to have weighed in on this topic by now. Or perhaps he is busy putting together the campaign to construct the Rosecrans Memorial & Statue at Stones River battlefield. At any rate he is the "go-to guy" on any questions concerning Gen. Rosecrans here, as Susannah Warner is on any matter pertaining to Gen. George Thomas. :-)

Laurie Chambliss
Civil War Interactive
www.almshouse.com

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Sir: I am currently studying the battle of stones river and was wondering if
anyone might be able to recommend a biography of roscrans.i would appreciate
anyone's help.sincerely, Roger Searcy
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#344

From: ECM777@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: Roscrans

ECM777@...

Roger,
I am a big Roscrans fan and I am presently reading "The Edge of Glory" by
William M. Lamers.  I've just started, so I can't tell you how good it is,
but so far it's been very informative.  Hope you get a chance to check it out.
Regards,
Colleen

#345

From: "Gary Baker" <stars_a_n_d_bars@...>
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: newbie

stars_a_n_d_bars@...

Nils.Feller
>
>
Guten Tag Nils

Welcome zum civilwarwest.

I was stationed in Germany for eight years, and my Deutsch is terrible.  But
welcome to the group.  I'm sure your contributions will be great for the
group.

Gary

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#346

From: REGIMENTALFLAG@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: Roscrans

REGIMENTALFLAG@...

"Edge Of Glory" is the newest and possibly only available biography on
Rosecrans. Sorry but I cannot remember the author.

Check out the Blue and Gray magazine issue on Stones River.
It covers sites that are not within the battlefield park.

I'm sure that you have read "Stones River,Bloody Winter In Tennessee" by
James Lee McDonough and "No Better Place To Die" by Peter Cozzens,if you
haven't,check them out!

Eastern National carries all of these titles at Chick-Chatt NMP and Stones
River NB.

Good Luck!

PS,I am a Chickamauga and Shiloh fanatic,and love the Army Of Tennessee!

#347

From: The Coys <thecoys@...>
Date: Wed Jan 5, 2000 3:19 am
Subject: Rosecrans

thecoys@...

The Edge of Glory is indeed the only bio on Old Rosy. There is currently another in the works but I have no idea when it is scheduled for publication (fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, I am not the author). I am so happy to see other people with an interest in Rosecrans. I thought I was the only one. :)

In case you didn't realize William Starke Rosecrans does not have a monument dedicated to him. Anywhere. Oh, I'm sorry, did Laurie mention that. Hehe. I would indeed like to rectify the monument situation if I could. Maybe someday.

Laurie, thank you for your kind about me and Rosecrans. To everyone in the group, I am very interested in Rosecrans and the Army of the Cumberland during his tenure of about one year as Commanding General. If you have any information to share I would be most grateful. As you read the biography you will discover that he was definitely on the edge of glory.

Your obedient servant

Kevin S. Coy

#348

From: REGIMENTALFLAG@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 11:21 pm
Subject: Re: Rosecrans

REGIMENTALFLAG@...

What do you think of Rosecrans' actions at Chickamauga?

#349

From: Jlb4tlb@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: Rosecrans

Jlb4tlb@...

In a message dated 1/4/00 11:25:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
REGIMENTALFLAG@... writes:

> What do you think of Rosecrans' actions at Chickamauga?


     Greetings All

   Great question!  I would think that he left the battlefield way to soon.
Thomas was in my mind the General that was needed.

      I hope that we get to hear lots of answers to your question



Jeff Burk

#350

From: Nonums@...
Date: Tue Jan 4, 2000 11:46 pm
Subject: Re: Rosecrans

Nonums@...

I'm getting "This page cannot be displayed".  Clarification anyone?

#351

From: "Dave Myrick" <dtmyrick@...>
Date: Wed Jan 5, 2000 9:47 pm
Subject: Rosecrans

dtmyrick@...

I am new to the group. Most of my experiences are from the Eastern Theater but having lived in Northwest Georgia for a while and studied the Chattanooga campaign I though this would be informative. My thoughts on Rosecrans at Chickamauga.... deplorable!

Granted he was ill served by most of his subordinates (save Thomas) and the Gods of War most definitely turned luck against him, there was simply no excuse for an Army commander to flee the field and add to the panic of his already hard pressed troops.

Just a few thoughts to stir the pot with.

YOS,

Dave Myrick

#352

From: The Coys <thecoys@...>
Date: Wed Jan 5, 2000 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Rosecrans

thecoys@...

I do not see Rosecrans' performance at Chickamauga as being that bad. If you judge his actions solely on the basis that he 'lost' then you have to judge all other Generals on the same basis. I do not think you can do that because you would then have to re-write the history of the ANV. :)

Can you base Rosecrans' performance on the order given to General Wood? That was a poorly written order that was written by a staff officer not used to writing orders. Wood, who was in the presence of his Corps Commander MajGen A. D. McCook, should have questioned the order for clarification. McCook should have questioned the order for clarification....it was his division. Wood might also have had 'issues' with Rosy.

Wood moves to the left....one thing that is often forgotten about Rosecrans creating a hole in his line is that he had also ordered Davis' division to the left to fill the gap that would be created by Wood's departure. Why? Because as we all know the heaviest fighting was to the Union left. Rosecrans was shifting his army to the left to assist the able George Thomas. As the movement was taking place....Wood to the left, Davis to the left....Longstreet attacks. Timing is everything. In addition, I always ask if Wood was still in place would he have been able to hold against the onslaught of Longstreet? I don't know but I doubt it. :)

Finally, do we judge Rosecrans performance because he left the field to go to Chattanooga and Garfield went to Thomas? I don't think so....where is the Commanding General's place? I think he should be establishing his new lines and HQ, setting up a defense and preparing his army for more battle. It is the job of aides and Chiefs-of-staff to deliver orders and to ascertain situations.

Your obedient servant,

Kevin S. Coy

REGIMENTALFLAG@... wrote:

What do you think of Rosecrans' actions at Chickamauga?
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From: "Hugh Martyr" <hugh@...>
Date: Wed Jan 5, 2000 11:50 am
Subject: newbee

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