conveniently, the below excellent article addresses this issue in decisions made in '63. It was not just the CS generals who needed to avoid Pyrrhic victories...
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ironbrigade_24th_mich
ironbrigade_...
Nov 3, 2003 11:56 pm
At towergames.com they have added the Pea Ridge battle available to fight on-line now. Shiloh is on it's way. gives you a chance not only to refight it with...
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james2044
Nov 4, 2003 12:36 am
Any intrest in "talking" about that campaign? Generals that were good or bad and who couldn't get along. James2044...
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P. B. Jones
pbjdesigns
Nov 4, 2003 12:37 am
Mention of Shiloh in an email to the group earlier today reminds me... Those on the group who are subscribers to Civil War Interactive Premium and who have not...
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Tim Campbell
firelead1861
Nov 4, 2003 1:40 pm
I am, The Pea Ridge Campaign had to be one of the most important west of the mississippi. ... Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account...
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tmix
tmix@...
Nov 4, 2003 5:31 pm
This would be a good topic for me since I could use considerably more knowledge on the battle. Go for it. ... From: Tim Campbell...
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Bill Brown
scalawag14
Nov 4, 2003 6:40 pm
Just a test... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Strategy, oh, Strategy!!" A retreating Union Solder during the Spring Hill (TN) Races,...
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P. B. Jones
pbjdesigns
Nov 4, 2003 6:49 pm
The forum seems to be working just fine and your message came through, Bill. We've been a bit quiet of late. But I'm seeing that on all of the CW groups to...
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P. B. Jones
pbjdesigns
Nov 4, 2003 6:50 pm
And timely for me since a group from CWi just visited there in June and I'm considering joining the CompuServe to RE-visit there in March. ... From: tmix To:...
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Daniel F. Giallombardo
parrotheadda...
Nov 4, 2003 6:58 pm
Thanx for that info Pat, I thought my 'puter wasn't displaying the board messages.---Dan ... ADVERTISEMENT [click here] ... Thanx for that info Pat, I thought...
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elevator650@...
Nov 4, 2003 6:59 pm
I just finished reading earl hess's pea ridge book and am very interested...
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jim shell
joseywales45...
Nov 4, 2003 7:43 pm
... From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 13:39:29 To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com Subject: [civilwarwest] Testing Just a...
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Johnnyreb6@...
statesrights02
Nov 4, 2003 9:43 pm
7th Annual Civil War Reenactment of the BATTLE OF BUCKHEAD CHURCH AND CREEK Near Millen, Georgia * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To All Reenactors:...
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carlw4514
Nov 4, 2003 10:48 pm
For a topic, what is your opinion about Van Dorn's attack plan in general. I especially am curious about what the group thinks about the plan aside from the...
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james2044
Nov 4, 2003 11:52 pm
I have two books that "cover" the campaign. "Pea Ridge" by Shea & Hess "Civil War on the Western Border 1854 - 1865" by Jay Monaghan In addition, I have the...
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elevator650@...
Nov 5, 2003 12:57 am
Carl, i dont think van dorns attack plan was sound because of the fact that he never involved himself outside of price's wing with the happenings of the battle...
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carlw4514
Nov 5, 2003 3:55 am
my comments below yours ... of the ... happenings ... good point. Like making sure his supply train had orders! ... not he ended ... killed ... he might have...
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james2044
Nov 5, 2003 10:08 am
I don't think that Van Dorn had a plan anymore than Hood did in 1864. He expected to win and that would take care of everything else. The errors of ommission...
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carlw4514
Nov 5, 2003 11:30 am
The rapidity of the flanking movement was insane and I guess for that reason Curtis was unprepared, something a general should never be. It must be said that...
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Tim Campbell
firelead1861
Nov 5, 2003 2:11 pm
I live in the ozark region and in march its still in th 40s and the country roads are mud and force marching on these roads would of been slow alowing Curtis...
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carlw4514
Nov 5, 2003 3:28 pm
so a case can be made that Van Dorn did not really pull off his surprise. Certainly Curtis was able to check him. If the left wing had been made stronger,...
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Tim Campbell
firelead1861
Nov 5, 2003 3:58 pm
Yes this case can be made. However a harder pressed left attack was still sort of hopeless because ive been there and its open flat ground (it was prairie...
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Bill Brown
scalawag14
Nov 5, 2003 4:03 pm
... You might want to add Nat Hughes "Jefferson Davis In Blue" (2002) to the list. The work goes into detail about General Davis' role in the engagement at...
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Daniel F. Giallombardo
parrotheadda...
Nov 5, 2003 4:17 pm
James, I agree with your assessment of Hood and Van Dorn's lack of planning, and their expectation-realistic or otherwise-of victory, and of that victory...
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tmix
tmix@...
Nov 5, 2003 5:29 pm
I agree with you, Dan. One of the first things Grant did at Shiloh was to make sure there was plenty of ammo for his men. Then he toured the battle field. That...
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ACES_DUGOUT
acesartwork43
Nov 5, 2003 7:17 pm
Hi Y'all There are a few things that lead to the defeat of Van Dorn and Price, at Pea Ridge. One of the first things was the lack of a bridge over the Little...
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james2044
Nov 6, 2003 12:39 am
... Dan, by command & control I mean the ability of a general to order troops on the battlefield and control his formations. In our time it is much easier...
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james2044
Nov 6, 2003 12:46 am
... talented sub unit commanders that fought well and held there own with there back to the wall. ... James, Thank you! We tend to focus on Van Dorn and...
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pete@...
Nov 6, 2003 2:47 am
Several years ago I found a series of articles written by Ed Bearss on the Pea Ridge campaign, I believe in an old periodical called the Arkansas Historical...
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civilwarwest@yahoogro...
Nov 6, 2003 2:58 am
The following civilwarwest poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: Should Pemberton have surrendered on 4th July? CHOICES AND RESULTS -...
