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#3833 From: "Bob C" <thecitrusbelt@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: PFE 55524 Restoration
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Below is a link to a restoration project for PFE 55524.  This reefer was built
for the Western Pacific in 1923 or 1924.

This is a project of the Black Butte Center for Railroad Culture, a group with a
special appreciation for the natural environment and the railroad-related
history and atmosphere of the Black Butte, CA, railroad junction area.

The Center is restoring this reefer and converting it into a resource
center/library and art gallery space.

http://www.bbcrc.org/pfe-reefer-home.shtml

Bob Chaparro
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#3832 From: roy wojahn <zuch2rew@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:39 pm
Subject: Calendars With Citrus Labels
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US Bank has a very nice 2010 calendar showing labels from fruit exchanges, including citrus like Cucamonga Citrus Fruit Growers Assn.  I got mine today at my local Vons Market where they have a remote teller box.

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Bob C <thecitrusbelt@...> wrote:

From: Bob C <thecitrusbelt@...>
Subject: [citrusmodeling] Escondido Citrus Industry Images
To: citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:24 PM

 

The Escondido History Center (http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ home/visit- us.htm) has several images of citrus packing houses and groves once located in that city.  Below are links to the images.  Service in Escondido was provided by the Santa Fe .

 

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

============ ========= ========

Eureka Ranch, birthplace of Escondido 's citrus industry

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 139.htm

 

Irrigating the Boyle citrus grove

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 263.htm

 

Inside citrus packing house, circa 1909

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 395.htm

 

Crew at Escondido Fruit Growers packing house

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 2734.htm

 

Escondido Orange Association packing house

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 5026.htm

 

Escondido Lemon Association packing house

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 6320.htm

 

Interior of lemon packing house, 1936

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 1301.htm

 

Santa Fe Depot

http://www.escondid ohistory. org/content/ photo-exhibit/ gallery_images/ 1244.htm

 

Escondido Citrus Industry Time Line

 

1893  50,000 fruit trees were planted.

 

1900s  Grove owners formed the Escondido Citrus Union.

 

1928  Escondido Fruit Growers divide into Escondido Lemon Association and Escondido Orange Association. First commercial avocados planted.

 

1945  Local lemon production reached a peak, with 1,159,039 field boxes.

School at North Broadway site.

 

1960  Lemon packing house closed.

 

 

 



#3831 From: "Bill" <jolitzwr@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: Lemons and oranges from the east?
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That just doesn not seem reasonable. One BIG problem with reefer traffic was the
return trip, how to generate some revenue but without contaminating/dirtying the
inside. They were sometimes used for lcl traffic or items like newspapers. Back
East, oranges were grown only in FL with the other citrus traffic being
grapefruit.

Something is strange here.

Bill J


--- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, "goldrod_1" <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
>
> The following is a post from the PennysWest group that I belong to. My
question for the group. Why would the PFE and SFRD reefer be return to LA with
oranges and lemons? I can see maybe the melons, but was not  the reefers sent
east with oranges and lemons.
>
> Michael Bishop
>
>
> Greetings All,
>
> Just wanted to point out that most reefer cars (mechanical and
> iced) were reloaded with other perishables and sent back west with
> loads.
> I have some mid 1960s wheel reports from various trains. I have
> one wheel report of train SWC1 eastbound from "Harcove" to Enola with
> about 70 reefers of various fruits. A handful of the cars have
> "heaters". Lots of PFE,SFRD, and other reefers on this train, Most of
> the PFE and Santa Fe cars are loaded with lemons,oranges, and melons.
> All of the Santa Fe cars are marked for Los Angeles while the PFE cars
> are split for St Louis, Chicago, and L.A. Hope this helps....
>
> Dave Hopson
>

#3830 From: "cliffprather" <lostres33@...>
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:23 am
Subject: Re: Lemons and oranges from the east?
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Seems odd that there was citrus loads heading west out of the northeast. One
possibility could be that they were "rollers" that had been sebt east without a
buyer and reached the east coast without being sold and now they are heading
west looking for a buyer. Just a guess. It would be good to have more info on
the dates and other details.

Cliff

--- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, "goldrod_1" <goldrod_1@...> wrote:
>
> The following is a post from the PennysWest group that I belong to. My
question for the group. Why would the PFE and SFRD reefer be return to LA with
oranges and lemons? I can see maybe the melons, but was not  the reefers sent
east with oranges and lemons.
>
> Michael Bishop
>
>
> Greetings All,
>
> Just wanted to point out that most reefer cars (mechanical and
> iced) were reloaded with other perishables and sent back west with
> loads.
> I have some mid 1960s wheel reports from various trains. I have
> one wheel report of train SWC1 eastbound from "Harcove" to Enola with
> about 70 reefers of various fruits. A handful of the cars have
> "heaters". Lots of PFE,SFRD, and other reefers on this train, Most of
> the PFE and Santa Fe cars are loaded with lemons,oranges, and melons.
> All of the Santa Fe cars are marked for Los Angeles while the PFE cars
> are split for St Louis, Chicago, and L.A. Hope this helps....
>
> Dave Hopson
>

#3829 From: Lancaster James <ljames1@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Upland Lemon Assn & Other Packing Houses
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I recently finished scanning nearly 100 of Cliff Prather's slides of
packing houses and related activities in southern and central
California.  About half of them have not yet been posted on my
packing house website.  I'll add them as I have time.

Jim Lancaster

On Dec 14, 2009, at 2:36 AM, Matthew wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Fantastic photos! Having lived in the area this was a walk down
> memory lane 'in extremis.' You even have a photo of the Upland
> Lemon Growers Office where I used to stop to deliver and pick up
> mail when I worked for the Post Office the summer before I was
> drafted.
>
> The shot of the RSD on the local freight was particularly
> interesting having worked right down the street from the loading
> docks.
>
> Thanks for the link and the update!
> Matt
>
> --- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, Lancaster James
> <ljames1@...> wrote:
>>
>> I have added some new Cliff Prather photos of Upland packing houses
>> in 1980 to my packing house website.
>> See http://scph001.home.netcom.com/scph_sb_upland.html
>>
>> Jim Lancaster
>>

#3828 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:36 am
Subject: Re: Upland Lemon Assn & Other Packing Houses
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Jim,

Fantastic photos! Having lived in the area this was a walk down memory lane 'in
extremis.' You even have a photo of the Upland Lemon Growers Office where I used
to stop to deliver and pick up mail when I worked for the Post Office the summer
before I was drafted.

The shot of the RSD on the local freight was particularly interesting having
worked right down the street from the loading docks.

Thanks for the link and the update!
Matt

--- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, Lancaster James <ljames1@...> wrote:
>
> I have added some new Cliff Prather photos of Upland packing houses
> in 1980 to my packing house website.
> See http://scph001.home.netcom.com/scph_sb_upland.html
>
> Jim Lancaster
>

#3827 From: Lancaster James <ljames1@...>
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:36 am
Subject: Upland Lemon Assn & Other Packing Houses
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I have added some new Cliff Prather photos of Upland packing houses
in 1980 to my packing house website.
See http://scph001.home.netcom.com/scph_sb_upland.html

Jim Lancaster

#3826 From: SUVCWORR@...
Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:40 am
Subject: Re: Lemons and oranges from the east?
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MIchael,

I was thinking the exact same thing.  SWC1 ("The West Coast Comet") in 1960 was a Greenville, Waverly, Conway, Indianapolis, East St. Louis train.  And it carried traffic of the MP, Wabash, Frisco, SSW, A&S, Manufacturers Ry and TRRA.   No mention of a transfer to ATSF or UP.  Why send them through a gateway without a home road connection when there were connections in Chicago.  The answer may lie in tht fact that the train was classed and blocked at Conway.  This may be another case of the same train symbol with two distinct consists -- pre- and post- Conway.  This is seen on other PRR trains. 

The consist leaving Waverly was unclassed and unblocked

All cars (loads and empties indiscriminate, including western ownership box cars so routing) for Conway-Scully and beyond, including PC&Y, Chartiers Branch, Pgh. Try Street, P&WV RR and Montour RR, Weirton, Wheeling, Mingo Jct., Columbus and so routing; Canton, Crestline, Ft. Wayne and so routing. (To exclude cars subject to movement in LCL trains and TrucTrains), also exclude excessive dimension shipments for Conway and beyond routed via Enola, Altoona, Kiski Jct.,� Butler Jct., Sharpsburg and Pittsburgh North Side).

The entire make-up and consist can be found at Randy Williamson's site

http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Prr/Frtsched/swc1_1960.html

Based on the consist this appears to be a clearing train (my term) menaing it takes anything that needs to move west to Conway and beyond. There is no east bound counterpart that I can find.

This still does not answer why citrus fruit would be shipped west from the East Coast.  Depending on the season I suppose it is possible these are imports from the off season in California.  To even make an educated guess, we would need to know the date of the list and the origin of the loads.  Were they spoiled loads the shipper wanted returned?  Did PFE or SFRD get a better price from a midwest market and redirect the shipments back west after having passed them east bound?  Were they imports headed to a midwest processor of juice or other products?  Were they spoiled loads being returned or forwarded for non-consumption use (furniture polish for the lemons or detergent, medicines for the oranges, vitamin C for example)?  There are many reasons to route these cars west.


Rich Orr


-----Original Message-----
From: goldrod_1 <goldrod_1@...>
To: citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 3:56 am
Subject: [citrusmodeling] Lemons and oranges from the east?

The following is a post from the PennysWest group that I belong to. My question 
for the group. Why would the PFE and SFRD reefer be return to LA with oranges
and lemons? I can see maybe the melons, but was not the reefers sent east with
oranges and lemons.

Michael Bishop


Greetings All,

Just wanted to point out that most reefer cars (mechanical and
iced) were reloaded with other perishables and sent back west with
loads.
I have some mid 1960s wheel reports from various trains. I have
one wheel report of train SWC1 eastbound from "Harcove" to Enola with
about 70 reefers of various fruits. A handful of the cars have
"heaters". Lots of PFE,SFRD, and other reefers on this train, Most of
the PFE and Santa Fe cars are loaded with lemons,oranges, and melons.
All of the Santa Fe cars are marked for Los Angeles while the PFE cars
are split for St Louis, Chicago, and L.A. Hope this helps....

Dave Hopson




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#3825 From: "goldrod_1" <goldrod_1@...>
Date: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:56 am
Subject: Lemons and oranges from the east?
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The following is a post from the PennysWest group that I belong to. My question
for the group. Why would the PFE and SFRD reefer be return to LA with oranges
and lemons? I can see maybe the melons, but was not  the reefers sent east with
oranges and lemons.

Michael Bishop


Greetings All,

Just wanted to point out that most reefer cars (mechanical and
iced) were reloaded with other perishables and sent back west with
loads.
I have some mid 1960s wheel reports from various trains. I have
one wheel report of train SWC1 eastbound from "Harcove" to Enola with
about 70 reefers of various fruits. A handful of the cars have
"heaters". Lots of PFE,SFRD, and other reefers on this train, Most of
the PFE and Santa Fe cars are loaded with lemons,oranges, and melons.
All of the Santa Fe cars are marked for Los Angeles while the PFE cars
are split for St Louis, Chicago, and L.A. Hope this helps....

Dave Hopson

#3824 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: Escondido Citrus Industry Images
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Bob,

Thanks for posting! In the very first photo, which shows the east end of the
valley, I can see the original farm home that will still in use when we lived
near there in 1963. The hills are exactly the same and you can even see the dirt
roads that were later turned into the highway that heads east out of Escondido.

Matt Coleman

#3823 From: "Bob C" <thecitrusbelt@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:24 am
Subject: Escondido Citrus Industry Images
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The Escondido History Center (http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/home/visit-us.htm) has several images of citrus packing houses and groves once located in that city.  Below are links to the images.  Service in Escondido was provided by the Santa Fe.

 

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

=============================

Eureka Ranch, birthplace of Escondido's citrus industry

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/139.htm

 

Irrigating the Boyle citrus grove

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/263.htm

 

Inside citrus packing house, circa 1909

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/395.htm

 

Crew at Escondido Fruit Growers packing house

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/2734.htm

 

Escondido Orange Association packing house

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/5026.htm

 

Escondido Lemon Association packing house

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/6320.htm

 

Interior of lemon packing house, 1936

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/1301.htm

 

Santa Fe Depot

http://www.escondidohistory.org/content/photo-exhibit/gallery_images/1244.htm

 

Escondido Citrus Industry Time Line

 

1893  50,000 fruit trees were planted.

 

1900s  Grove owners formed the Escondido Citrus Union.

 

1928  Escondido Fruit Growers divide into Escondido Lemon Association and Escondido Orange Association. First commercial avocados planted.

 

1945  Local lemon production reached a peak, with 1,159,039 field boxes.

School at North Broadway site.

 

1960  Lemon packing house closed.

 

 

 


#3822 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 11:07 am
Subject: Re:Upland Lemon Assn - PE service
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Cliff,

Again,thanks for your posting. This track drawing is wonderful because it was
clearly the one used by the author of the article in the MR special edition. The
two spurs to the Upland Lemon Growers House (right at the top of Sultana Ave)
were still in place as of this last year, but no longer connected to the track
serving the Sunkist Plant across the street.

Thanks again.
Matt

--- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, "cliffprather" <lostres33@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Keith for posting the information on the joint AT&SF and PE trackage in
Upland. I had seen the special instructions before, but without a map or other
visual help I had trouble understanding the meaning of the special instruction.
I found that the 1951 ATSF LA Division track chart showed the track in Upland
including the PE connections and it appears to have cross marks on the exclusive
PE tracks.
>
> I have posted the Upland area of the track chart in the Upland Packinghouse
album in the photo section. I added directions to the location of the four
packinghouses served jointly by the SP & Santa Fe.
>
> Cliff
> --- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, Keith Jordan <ckjordan@> wrote:
> >
> > Cliff and Others,
> >
> > The following may be of interest. These are instructions found in the
> > Santa Fe's Los Angeles Division Bulletin Book as of January 1, 1949.
> > These books were a summary of all of the outstanding special
> > instruction in effect as of that date. Here's what it said about
> > Upland (and in particular the PE):
> >
> > "Upland (a) Following exclusive Pacific Electric tracks must not be
> > used by Santa Fe crews: A. Pacific Electric lead to tracks serving
> > Upland Lemon Growers Assn. House No. 38, and Upland Citrus Assn. House
> > No. 40. B. Outside track on south track to this unit between Lemon
> > Growers Assn. crossover located east of House No. 38, and Upland
> > Citrus Assn. crossover located west of House No. 38. Spur to House No.
> > 38 and track between spur and outside track may be used by Santa Fe
> > trains.
> > "(b) When switch runs assigned, engines will tie up on Campus track.
> > Tank car of fuel oil connected to pump must not be moved or coupled on
> > to. Derails at both ends of this track.
> > "(c) Switch to Lemon House is to be lined normally for the lead, and
> > the switch to the Mountain View Spur lined for Pacific Electric train
> > movements."
> >
> > Instruction (a) had been in effect since 1935, (b) 1945 and (c) 1937.
> >
> > Keith Jordan
> >
>

#3821 From: "cliffprather" <lostres33@...>
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 2:34 am
Subject: Re:Upland Lemon Assn - PE service
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Thanks Keith for posting the information on the joint AT&SF and PE trackage in
Upland. I had seen the special instructions before, but without a map or other
visual help I had trouble understanding the meaning of the special instruction.
I found that the 1951 ATSF LA Division track chart showed the track in Upland
including the PE connections and it appears to have cross marks on the exclusive
PE tracks.

I have posted the Upland area of the track chart in the Upland Packinghouse
album in the photo section. I added directions to the location of the four
packinghouses served jointly by the SP & Santa Fe.

Cliff
--- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, Keith Jordan <ckjordan@...> wrote:
>
> Cliff and Others,
>
> The following may be of interest. These are instructions found in the
> Santa Fe's Los Angeles Division Bulletin Book as of January 1, 1949.
> These books were a summary of all of the outstanding special
> instruction in effect as of that date. Here's what it said about
> Upland (and in particular the PE):
>
> "Upland (a) Following exclusive Pacific Electric tracks must not be
> used by Santa Fe crews: A. Pacific Electric lead to tracks serving
> Upland Lemon Growers Assn. House No. 38, and Upland Citrus Assn. House
> No. 40. B. Outside track on south track to this unit between Lemon
> Growers Assn. crossover located east of House No. 38, and Upland
> Citrus Assn. crossover located west of House No. 38. Spur to House No.
> 38 and track between spur and outside track may be used by Santa Fe
> trains.
> "(b) When switch runs assigned, engines will tie up on Campus track.
> Tank car of fuel oil connected to pump must not be moved or coupled on
> to. Derails at both ends of this track.
> "(c) Switch to Lemon House is to be lined normally for the lead, and
> the switch to the Mountain View Spur lined for Pacific Electric train
> movements."
>
> Instruction (a) had been in effect since 1935, (b) 1945 and (c) 1937.
>
> Keith Jordan
>

#3820 From: Cynthia VanWormer <robsmom@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: Early Entry for Famous California Fruit Company
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Don,

Thank you for confirming the Earl activity in the early shipment of the California produce to the east.  By the 1890s and until the Court intervened, Armour controlled a major portion of the refrigerated shipments at least from the west coast to eastern markets and also controlled a major portion of the enroute ice servicing.  After 1886/7, the Colorado Midland offered non-Armoured controlled ice service and based on the 1891-3 Auditor's Ledger of Bills Entered, both the ATSF, SP, and numerous of the Private Refrigerator Companies availed themselves of the Midland Ice House Services at Basalt (Aspen Jct), Lake George, and Colorado City (Colorado Springs) to some very hefty bills, based on the normal cost of ice sold to other customers.

Thanks again,

Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

Don Ball wrote:
 

The Earl Fruit Company goes way back in California history, certainly to the 1880s and, I believe, even earlier.  By the late 1880s, Edwin Earl had formed the Continental Fruit Express refrigerator car line which shipped his products as well as others.  It was absorbed by Armour in the 1890s.
 
Don Ball



 

Jim and Bob,

Jim's website was the first to sensitize me to the fact that the Earl Fruit Company is a part of the California scene, I had been looking for in relation to the Great Valley, then as I expanded my readings both back into SoCal (the ancestral home) and back in time, I continually found references initially as Packers, but in the older material as Fruit Brokers and the organizers of some of the very early organized shipments to open the eastern markets. 

Now in my research efforts, I am always looking to find where Earl Fruit is playing a role.  In this case it appears to be a shipment that left Sacramento as a Santa Fe load and got overcharged along the way by the Colorado Midland in transit.  I suspect the Santa Fe originated the load, turned over to the SP (CP) who turned over to the Rio Grande Western at Ogden and got it back to Santa Fe owned (controlled) rails at Grand Junction on the Midland.  I suspect the ATSF took it Colorado Springs and carried on home rails into Kansas City.  Great new routing.

Thanks,

Tom VanWormer
Monument CO


#3819 From: Cynthia VanWormer <robsmom@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: Early Entry for Famous California Fruit Company
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Jim and Bob,

Jim's website was the first to sensitize me to the fact that the Earl Fruit Company is a part of the California scene, I had been looking for in relation to the Great Valley, then as I expanded my readings both back into SoCal (the ancestral home) and back in time, I continually found references initially as Packers, but in the older material as Fruit Brokers and the organizers of some of the very early organized shipments to open the eastern markets. 

Now in my research efforts, I am always looking to find where Earl Fruit is playing a role.  In this case it appears to be a shipment that left Sacramento as a Santa Fe load and got overcharged along the way by the Colorado Midland in transit.  I suspect the Santa Fe originated the load, turned over to the SP (CP) who turned over to the Rio Grande Western at Ogden and got it back to Santa Fe owned (controlled) rails at Grand Junction on the Midland.  I suspect the ATSF took it Colorado Springs and carried on home rails into Kansas City.  Great new routing.

Thanks,

Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

Lancaster James wrote:
 

> [Moderator's Note: From what I have been able to determine, the
> Earl Fruit Company was originally a fruit broker. They had
> operations in Fullerton, Rialto and (perhaps) other locations. I
> recently attended a presentation at the Rialto Historical Society
> where it was stated that the shady business practices of the Earl
> Fruit Company led the local growers to form a cooperative to market
> their citrus.]

The Earl Fruit Company is a long time landmark in Lodi CA. For
several photos go to
http://coastdaylight.com/lodi/lodi.html

Jim Lancaster


#3818 From: Lancaster James <ljames1@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:34 am
Subject: Re: Early Entry for Famous California Fruit Company
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> [Moderator's Note:  From what I have been able to determine, the
> Earl Fruit Company was originally a fruit broker.  They had
> operations in Fullerton, Rialto and (perhaps) other locations.  I
> recently attended a presentation at the Rialto Historical Society
> where it was stated that the shady business practices of the Earl
> Fruit Company led the local growers to form a cooperative to market
> their citrus.]

The Earl Fruit Company is a long time landmark in Lodi CA.  For
several photos go to
http://coastdaylight.com/lodi/lodi.html

Jim Lancaster

#3817 From: Cynthia VanWormer <robsmom@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Early Entry for Famous California Fruit Company
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Tony,

That will be a very well received set of decals when he is able to produce it.  I have been increasing my TOC reefer fleet based on the research being accomplished and reported on several fronts.  Hopefully the participants of the various Yahoo Groups might be willing to share any photos of the shipper's placards they have in their collections or find in their research with Art to increase the information base.  It is one of those areas most of us were not aware of five years ago and now we just can't find them fast enough as the photos become more available with the increased effort to digitize.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

Tony Colorado wrote:
 
Tom,
Wish we could find a good picture of the poster that Earl Fruits affixed to freight cars. There's a very skewed photo in the SFHS reefer book
showing a string of Santa Fe reefers all with the Earl Fruit placards. If we had a decent shot to work with, we'd have no trouble convincing our
friend Art Griffin to make a decal of it. I have in fact been digging to find any TOC shippers' placards to turn into a decal set.
Tony C.

 

Folks,

I am copy entries from a 1892 (June) Auditors Ledger of Records of Bills
Entered for the Colorado Midland Railway Co. Entry 197 for the month
of June 1892 shows a bill of $1.31 for an overcharge on a shipment of
Green Fruit done by the Earl Fruit Co. from Sacramento to Kansas City.
This money was sent to the AT&SF by the CM Auditor's Office.

Just in case you hadn't realized how long the Earl Fruit Company has
been around.

Tom VanWormer
Monument CO



#3816 From: Cynthia VanWormer <robsmom@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 12:22 am
Subject: Early Entry for Famous California Fruit Company
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Folks,

I am copy entries from a 1892 (June) Auditors Ledger of Records of Bills
Entered for the Colorado Midland Railway Co.  Entry  197 for the month
of June 1892 shows a bill of $1.31 for an overcharge on a shipment of
Green Fruit done by the Earl Fruit Co. from Sacramento to Kansas City.
This money was sent to the AT&SF by the CM Auditor's Office.


Just in case you hadn't realized how long the Earl Fruit Company has
been around.

Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

[Moderator's Note:  From what I have been able to determine, the Earl Fruit
Company was originally a fruit broker.  They had operations in Fullerton, Rialto
and (perhaps) other locations.  I recently attended a presentation at the Rialto
Historical Society where it was stated that the shady business practices of the
Earl Fruit Company led the local growers to form a cooperative to market their
citrus.]

#3815 From: Keith Jordan <ckjordan@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 4:30 pm
Subject: Re:Upland Lemon Assn - PE service
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Cliff and Others,

The following may be of interest. These are instructions found in the
Santa Fe's Los Angeles Division Bulletin Book as of January 1, 1949.
These books were a summary of all of the outstanding special
instruction in effect as of that date. Here's what it said about
Upland (and in particular the PE):

"Upland (a) Following exclusive Pacific Electric tracks must not be
used by Santa Fe crews: A. Pacific Electric lead to tracks serving
Upland Lemon Growers Assn. House No. 38, and Upland Citrus Assn. House
No. 40. B. Outside track on south track to this unit between Lemon
Growers Assn. crossover located east of House No. 38, and Upland
Citrus Assn. crossover located west of House No. 38. Spur to House No.
38 and track between spur and outside track may be used by Santa Fe
trains.
"(b) When switch runs assigned, engines will tie up on Campus track.
Tank car of fuel oil connected to pump must not be moved or coupled on
to. Derails at both ends of this track.
"(c) Switch to Lemon House is to be lined normally for the lead, and
the switch to the Mountain View Spur lined for Pacific Electric train
movements."

Instruction (a) had been in effect since 1935, (b) 1945 and (c) 1937.

Keith Jordan

#3814 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Upland Lemon Assn - PE service
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Cliff,

Thanks for the additional info. I remember the spur in front of the building,
but don't remember seeing any cars there in 1969 or 70, but I wasnt' there very
often. I found the article in the Model Railroader 2007 Special Edition that
shows the track layout for Upland and the various Citrus Packing houses and that
helped put it in perspective. Google Earth shows it pretty well too.

Matt

--- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, "cliffprather" <lostres33@...> wrote:
>
> The Upland Lemon Assn lasted until 1984 (see Citrus Roots...Our Lagacy by
Richard H. Barker) and used the Santa Fe occasionally into the 80s.
> The Pacific Electric served packinghouse were jointly served with the Santa
Fe. The PE had a spur that ran down Fifth Ave to reach the Upland Lemon Assn
House #1 and the Upland Citrus Assn. The Mountain View Citrus Assn and Upland
Lemon Assn House #2 were serve by a spur that came off the PE tracks that ran
down the parkway between the lanes of Euclid Ave., south of the AT&SF line.
>
> One railroad normally used the inside loading track and the other the outside
track with its cars loaded through the other lines cars.
>
> I am not sure when the PE stopped using the Fifth Ave spur, but it was
sometime before Upland Lemon closed. It was likely during the 1970s when rail
shipments of citrus declined greatly. The Santa Fe could handle the few cars
that were still shipped by rail.
>
> Cliff
>
> Cliff
>

#3813 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 6:37 pm
Subject: Sunkist Plant Track Arrangement
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Cliff's post brought back a lot of memories and for grins I went to GoogleEarth
and put in the address of the Sunkist Plant in Ontario where my father used to
work.

If you put in:

616 E. Sunkist St.
Ontario, CA

And zoom in, you will see the plant with the spur running north-south on
Moneterey Ave. If you look closely you can see the beautiful (from a modeler's
perspective) track layout with the spurs that cross in the plant. You can see
the remains of an old spur in the plant. If you look to the west of the plant,
across the street, is the old packing supply house that I remembered from years
gone by. The spurs that served it are still in the ground but not connected
anymore. Some of the research indicates that this was a packing house before it
was a supply house.

I am amazed at how much is left -- somehow I thought it was all gone by now.

Matt Coleman

#3812 From: "cliffprather" <lostres33@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 5:55 pm
Subject: Upland Lemon Assn - PE service
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The Upland Lemon Assn lasted until 1984 (see Citrus Roots...Our Lagacy by
Richard H. Barker) and used the Santa Fe occasionally into the 80s.
The Pacific Electric served packinghouse were jointly served with the Santa Fe.
The PE had a spur that ran down Fifth Ave to reach the Upland Lemon Assn House
#1 and the Upland Citrus Assn. The Mountain View Citrus Assn and Upland Lemon
Assn House #2 were serve by a spur that came off the PE tracks that ran down the
parkway between the lanes of Euclid Ave., south of the AT&SF line.

One railroad normally used the inside loading track and the other the outside
track with its cars loaded through the other lines cars.

I am not sure when the PE stopped using the Fifth Ave spur, but it was sometime
before Upland Lemon closed. It was likely during the 1970s when rail shipments
of citrus declined greatly. The Santa Fe could handle the few cars that were
still shipped by rail.

Cliff

Cliff

#3811 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 10:31 am
Subject: Re: PE served packinghouses -- Upland Lemon Growers Association
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Cliff,

Thanks! I knew there was an Upland Lemon Growers Association (having lived
there,) but didn't realize that they were on PE tracks. My recollection, and it
is vague, was that they were not shipping from that location as of the late 60s.
The association was still around, but most of the growers were shipping through
other packing houses.

The following are a couple of links with some additional background on the
Upland Lemon Growers Association:

http://www.route66ca.org/traveler/towns/23upland/23toc.html

http://www.uplandheritage.org/Export19.htm

There are several links to other sites on this list from the Pomona site but it
appears to be down as of this morning.

http://content.ci.pomona.ca.us/cdm4/results.php?CISOOP1=any&CISOFIELD1=CISOSEARC\
HALL&CISOROOT=/Citrusind&CISOBOX1=Lemon

Appreciate the list and all your work in compiling it!

Matt Coleman




--- In citrusmodeling@yahoogroups.com, "cliffprather" <lostres33@...> wrote:
>
> The following is a list of industries that the Pacific Electric served in
1952. Each industry has "Citrus Fruit" as a commodity handled by that indusry.
>
> Cliff Prather
>
>
>  Citrus Fruit Shipper on Pacific Electric  June 1, 1952
>
>  SHIPPER    	               STATION        NOTE
>
> 1 Alta Loma Heights Citrus Assn.  Alta Loma
> 2 American Fruit Growers          Alta Loma
> 3 Azusa Citrus Assn.          Azusa
> 4 Azusa Foothill Citrus Assn  Azusa
> 5 Damerel Allison Co.          Azusa Avenue and ice
> 6 Golden Orange Groves, Inc  Charter Oaks
> 7 Claremont Citrus Assn            Claremont  through Union Ice
> 8 College Heights Orange & Lemon Assn Claremont
> 9 Union Ice                  Claremont Precooling plant
> 10 Jameson Co.                  Corona
> 11 Orange Heights Orange - Houses 1 &2 Corona
> 12 Covina Citrus Assn          Covina
> 13 Covina Orange Growers 	         Covina
> 14 Damerel & Allison 	         Covina   And juice Div of Exchange Lemon
Products
> 15 Exchange Lemon Products Co.  Covina   And juice
> 16 Valencia Heights Orchard, Inc  Covina
> 17 Redlands Select Groves          Crown Jewel
> 18 Index Mutual Citrus Assn  Des Moines   near La Habra
> 19 Etiwanda Citrus Fruit Assn  Etiwanda
> 20 Placentia Orange Growers Assn  Fullerton
> 21 Garden Grove Citrus Assn  Garden Grove
> 22 Garden Grove Co-operative, Inc  Garden Grove
> 23 Glendora Lemon Growers Assn  Glendora
> 24 Vita-Pakt Products          Glendora
> 25 Golden Buckle Assn          Highland
> 26 La Habra Citrus Assn          La Habra
> 27 La Verne Cooperative Citrus Assn  La Verne
> 28 Leffingwell Company          Leffingwell  near Whittier
> 29 Leffingwell Rancho Lemon Assn  Leffingwell
> 30 Santiago Orange Growers Assn  Orange
> 31 Rialto-Fontana Citrus 	         Rialto
> 32 San Dimas Lemon Assn          San Dimas
> 33 San Dimas Orange Growers Assn    San Dimas
> 34 Paramont Citrus Assn          San Fernado Mission
> 35 San Fernado Heights Lemon Assn  San Fernado Mission
> 36 San Fernado Heights Orange Assn  San Fernado Mission
> 37 Redlands Heights Groves, Inc  Sunkist
> 38 Mountain View Fruit Assn  Upland
> 39 Upland Citrus Assn          Upland
> 40 Upland Lemon Assn - House 1 & 2  Upland
> 41 Murphy Ranch Co.          Whittier
> 42 Whittier Citrus Assn          Whittier
> 43 Yorba Linda Citrus Assn - House 1 & 2  Yorba Linda
>
> All Shipper with "citrus fruit" as a commodity handled.
> Some may not be what is commonly considered a "packinghouse".
> Some companies also handled friut juice and other products
>

#3810 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 10:36 am
Subject: Mountain View Orange and Lemon Growers
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http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Fullscreen.ics?ark=ark:/13030/kt2w10335q/z1&&brand=oac4\
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Interesting photo of Mountain View Orange and Lemon Growers Assn building.

Matt

#3809 From: "Matthew" <mattjcoleman@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 10:46 am
Subject: More on Upland Citrus
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Cliff's list got me started. These may already be common links but this one has
interesting photos from near where I used to live.

http://contentdm.califa.org/cdm4/browse.php?CISOROOT=/cupl

Mostly turn of the last century photos, but some good shots of rail activity at
two of the packing houses.

Matt Coleman

#3808 From: "Bob C" <thecitrusbelt@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 12:06 am
Subject: Pacific Electric Railway - Citrus Shippers
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We don't often talk about the Pacific Electric Railway on this group, however,
they did handle some citrus traffic in their day.  Courtesy of Cliff Prather,
here is a list of industries that the Pacific Electric Railway served in 1952.
Each industry had "Citrus Fruit" listed as a commodity handled by that industry.

If anyone can supply more information about these shippers, please post it.

Bob Chaparro
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Citrus Fruit Shippers On Pacific Electric Railway - June 1, 1952

SHIPPER STATION NOTE

1 Alta Loma Heights Citrus Assn. Alta Loma
2 American Fruit Growers Alta Loma
3 Azusa Citrus Assn. Azusa
4 Azusa Foothill Citrus Assn Azusa
5 Damerel Allison Co. Azusa Avenue and ice
6 Golden Orange Groves, Inc Charter Oaks
7 Claremont Citrus Assn Claremont through Union Ice
8 College Heights Orange & Lemon Assn Claremont
9 Union Ice Claremont Precooling plant
10 Jameson Co. Corona
11 Orange Heights Orange - Houses 1 &2 Corona
12 Covina Citrus Assn Covina
13 Covina Orange Growers Covina
14 Damerel & Allison Covina And juice Div of Exchange Lemon Products
15 Exchange Lemon Products Co. Covina And juice
16 Valencia Heights Orchard, Inc Covina
17 Redlands Select Groves Crown Jewel
18 Index Mutual Citrus Assn Des Moines near La Habra
19 Etiwanda Citrus Fruit Assn Etiwanda
20 Placentia Orange Growers Assn Fullerton
21 Garden Grove Citrus Assn Garden Grove
22 Garden Grove Co-operative, Inc Garden Grove
23 Glendora Lemon Growers Assn Glendora
24 Vita-Pakt Products Glendora
25 Golden Buckle Assn Highland
26 La Habra Citrus Assn La Habra
27 La Verne Cooperative Citrus Assn La Verne
28 Leffingwell Company Leffingwell near Whittier
29 Leffingwell Rancho Lemon Assn Leffingwell
30 Santiago Orange Growers Assn Orange
31 Rialto-Fontana Citrus Rialto
32 San Dimas Lemon Assn San Dimas
33 San Dimas Orange Growers Assn San Dimas
34 Paramont Citrus Assn San Fernado Mission
35 San Fernado Heights Lemon Assn San Fernado Mission
36 San Fernado Heights Orange Assn San Fernado Mission
37 Redlands Heights Groves, Inc Sunkist
38 Mountain View Fruit Assn Upland
39 Upland Citrus Assn Upland
40 Upland Lemon Assn - House 1 & 2 Upland
41 Murphy Ranch Co. Whittier
42 Whittier Citrus Assn Whittier
43 Yorba Linda Citrus Assn - House 1 & 2 Yorba Linda

All Shipper with "citrus fruit" as a commodity handled.
Some may not be what is commonly considered a "packinghouse" .
Some companies also handled friut juice and other products

#3807 From: Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:58 pm
Subject: Re: PE served packinghouses
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Thank you, Cliff.
 
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Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 2:14:34 PM
Subject: [citrusmodeling] PE served packinghouses

 

The following is a list of industries that the Pacific Electric served in 1952. Each industry has "Citrus Fruit" as a commodity handled by that indusry.

Cliff Prather


Citrus Fruit Shipper on Pacific Electric June 1, 1952

SHIPPER STATION NOTE

1 Alta Loma Heights Citrus Assn. Alta Loma
2 American Fruit Growers Alta Loma
3 Azusa Citrus Assn. Azusa
4 Azusa Foothill Citrus Assn Azusa
5 Damerel Allison Co. Azusa Avenue and ice
6 Golden Orange Groves, Inc Charter Oaks
7 Claremont Citrus Assn Claremont through Union Ice
8 College Heights Orange & Lemon Assn Claremont
9 Union Ice Claremont Precooling plant
10 Jameson Co. Corona
11 Orange Heights Orange - Houses 1 &2 Corona
12 Covina Citrus Assn Covina
13 Covina Orange Growers Covina
14 Damerel & Allison Covina And juice Div of Exchange Lemon Products
15 Exchange Lemon Products Co. Covina And juice
16 Valencia Heights Orchard, Inc Covina
17 Redlands Select Groves Crown Jewel
18 Index Mutual Citrus Assn Des Moines near La Habra
19 Etiwanda Citrus Fruit Assn Etiwanda
20 Placentia Orange Growers Assn Fullerton
21 Garden Grove Citrus Assn Garden Grove
22 Garden Grove Co-operative, Inc Garden Grove
23 Glendora Lemon Growers Assn Glendora
24 Vita-Pakt Products Glendora
25 Golden Buckle Assn Highland
26 La Habra Citrus Assn La Habra
27 La Verne Cooperative Citrus Assn La Verne
28 Leffingwell Company Leffingwell near Whittier
29 Leffingwell Rancho Lemon Assn Leffingwell
30 Santiago Orange Growers Assn Orange
31 Rialto-Fontana Citrus Rialto
32 San Dimas Lemon Assn San Dimas
33 San Dimas Orange Growers Assn San Dimas
34 Paramont Citrus Assn San Fernado Mission
35 San Fernado Heights Lemon Assn San Fernado Mission
36 San Fernado Heights Orange Assn San Fernado Mission
37 Redlands Heights Groves, Inc Sunkist
38 Mountain View Fruit Assn Upland
39 Upland Citrus Assn Upland
40 Upland Lemon Assn - House 1 & 2 Upland
41 Murphy Ranch Co. Whittier
42 Whittier Citrus Assn Whittier
43 Yorba Linda Citrus Assn - House 1 & 2 Yorba Linda

All Shipper with "citrus fruit" as a commodity handled.
Some may not be what is commonly considered a "packinghouse" .
Some companies also handled friut juice and other products



#3806 From: "cliffprather" <lostres33@...>
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 10:14 pm
Subject: PE served packinghouses
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The following is a list of industries that the Pacific Electric served in 1952.
Each industry has "Citrus Fruit" as a commodity handled by that indusry.

Cliff Prather


	 Citrus Fruit Shipper on Pacific Electric  June 1, 1952

	 SHIPPER    	               STATION        NOTE

1 Alta Loma Heights Citrus Assn.  Alta Loma
2 American Fruit Growers          Alta Loma
3 Azusa Citrus Assn.          Azusa
4 Azusa Foothill Citrus Assn  Azusa
5 Damerel Allison Co.          Azusa Avenue and ice
6 Golden Orange Groves, Inc  Charter Oaks
7 Claremont Citrus Assn            Claremont  through Union Ice
8 College Heights Orange & Lemon Assn Claremont
9 Union Ice                  Claremont Precooling plant
10 Jameson Co.                  Corona
11 Orange Heights Orange - Houses 1 &2 Corona
12 Covina Citrus Assn          Covina
13 Covina Orange Growers 	         Covina
14 Damerel & Allison 	         Covina   And juice Div of Exchange Lemon Products
15 Exchange Lemon Products Co.  Covina   And juice
16 Valencia Heights Orchard, Inc  Covina
17 Redlands Select Groves          Crown Jewel
18 Index Mutual Citrus Assn  Des Moines   near La Habra
19 Etiwanda Citrus Fruit Assn  Etiwanda
20 Placentia Orange Growers Assn  Fullerton
21 Garden Grove Citrus Assn  Garden Grove
22 Garden Grove Co-operative, Inc  Garden Grove
23 Glendora Lemon Growers Assn  Glendora
24 Vita-Pakt Products          Glendora
25 Golden Buckle Assn          Highland
26 La Habra Citrus Assn          La Habra
27 La Verne Cooperative Citrus Assn  La Verne
28 Leffingwell Company          Leffingwell  near Whittier
29 Leffingwell Rancho Lemon Assn  Leffingwell
30 Santiago Orange Growers Assn  Orange
31 Rialto-Fontana Citrus 	         Rialto
32 San Dimas Lemon Assn          San Dimas
33 San Dimas Orange Growers Assn    San Dimas
34 Paramont Citrus Assn          San Fernado Mission
35 San Fernado Heights Lemon Assn  San Fernado Mission
36 San Fernado Heights Orange Assn  San Fernado Mission
37 Redlands Heights Groves, Inc  Sunkist
38 Mountain View Fruit Assn  Upland
39 Upland Citrus Assn          Upland
40 Upland Lemon Assn - House 1 & 2  Upland
41 Murphy Ranch Co.          Whittier
42 Whittier Citrus Assn          Whittier
43 Yorba Linda Citrus Assn - House 1 & 2  Yorba Linda

All Shipper with "citrus fruit" as a commodity handled.
Some may not be what is commonly considered a "packinghouse".
Some companies also handled friut juice and other products

#3805 From: "Bill" <jolitzwr@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: Useful (! or ?) Information
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In our never-ending quest for accuracy, we're always asking the question, "How
much of (what) was harvested (where)?" Over the weekend, I found some wonderful
sources of information: county crop reports.  They show harvest tonnage for
everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) grown in the county. These reports are
submitted to both County Boards of Supervisors and the Dept. of Food and
Agriculture. Here is a link to Tulare County as a sample:

http://agcomm.co.tulare.ca.us/pdf/2006%20Crop%20Report.pdf

Enter (county name)county crop report into your search engine.

I was particularly interested in citrus crops but found other useful
information.  Fresno, Kern and Tulare Counties are the biggest SJ Valley
producers of citrus, but Tulare and Kers are the biggest.  Of possible crops for
shipment I was looking for, grapes, both table and raisin, were the next largest
crop. The tomato harvest for processing was TWICE the size of the citrus
harvest.  I know, citrus is the focus of this Group, but we do need to keep
things in context or perspective.

I posted an Excel spreadsheet in the "Files" section with my findings.  Hope
they're useful to someone.

Bill J

#3804 From: "Bob C" <thecitrusbelt@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:29 pm
Subject: Roadside Fruit & Vegitable Stands
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The models were discussed in an earlier post.

Here are a few prototype examples from Jim Lancaster's packing house website:

http://scph.home.netcom.com/giant_orange/california_orange_stands.html

Bob Chaparro
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