We are looking forward to the fun of hunting some more of your
caches.  Please just save us a cache-hiding spot in "downtown"
Tres Pinos .  We don't have any caches ready-to-go, but we have
two spots in mind.  If you have 10 or so spots further down the
road, this will be quite a trip !

Think you are good with 40 minutes from Tres Pinos to
Pinnacles - we have made it in 45min, without rushing, from
Hollister (south edge of town) to pay-station at entrance to
Pinnacles Nat'l Monument.  Cachers will have to wait to pick up
the enroute caches on the way back !! Cannot stress enough that
we need to get there early if anyone is going to survive hiking in
the heat we can expect by the end of March.  But even after a hard
day, a dozen or two caches on the way home will stir up some
fresh energy.
Figure the entrance gate / pay station will be open when we get
there.  Depending on how crowded is the park that morning, we
would prefer to gather at the Bear Creek visitor's center, which is
one of the earthcaches (just sign the guestbook) and a good
place to fill water bottles, use restroom, etc.   If we get sent to
overflow-parking, we will have to hike up to Bear Creek anyways
to get started on the trail to the other earthcaches.


--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@...>
wrote:
>
> Momma and I went out there today and got lots of coordinates
for the field trip.  I was wondering why no caches in the park
area.  I have 20 caches READY to set out.  I spotted numerous
places on the way in to hide caches on that side of town.  My wife
is EXTREMELY anti-caching so when she is along I don't get to
play.  I did pick up Momoma's "Stop Stareing at me" but
grummble grumble.  Without stopping it took 40 min to get there
from Tres Pinos to the campground store.  There are currently 4
caches on the way, ( I have already found them) so I do not think
30 min is time enough between breakfast and the hike.  I could
EASILY put out 10 caches before getting into the park but it
would slow everyone down, they might never get to the hike.   I
think you need to to allow an hour because if the Gate is not
manned you have to go to the Bear Gulch Visitor Center to sign
in and buy a visitor pass.  The lady there said to go back out the
way we came in, cross the bridge and turn left to go
>  to the Chalone Trail Head Parking area.  That trail goes about
3.5 mi hike and ends at a trailhead called Balconies and there
are caves there.  You reach that side from Salinas but she said
that t rail would be your best bet at seeing wildflowers.  They said
they have only had 5" of rain  this year so it is going to be lean.  I
have no experience up there so I can not say one way or another.
Here are your coordinates:
>   Flapjack's parking lot (V Small) 36o 47.424N  121o 19.313W
>   Veranda's Parking Lot    36o 47.409N  121o 19.271W           "0"
mi
>
>   The Pinnicles "Private" campground = www.pinncamp.com
>   Pinnicles Campground Store  36o 29.624N  121o 08.796W
23.8 mi.
>
>   Pinnicles campground ticket booth  36029.607N   121o
08.791W
>   The campground store has sparse supplies at a very high
price.  Bring your own wood if you are camping.  The sign said
"Wood Gathers would be Evicted"  They sell wood and presto
logs
>                 ------------------------------------------------------------
>     www.nps.gov/pinn
> Pinnicle's Front Gate (Closed) 36o 29.273N  121o 09.234W
24.4 mi
>   1st Rest Stop viewing area 36o28.944N   121o 09.722W
(Good Gathering area)
>   Bear Gulch Visitor Centor 36o 28.881N  121o 10.864W     26
mi
>   Chalone Trail head (parking for maybe 10 cars) 36o 29.696N
121o 10.384W
>
>   These people appear very strict and were about to have a cow
beacuse they saw a boy scout carrying a skateboard down the
paved road.  No pets are allowed.  I have a snake bite kit.
Chalone has porta pottie toilets but NO WATER.
>
>   By the time of our hike, they expect to have 2 different posters
of the area wild flowers for sale at the visitor's center
>
>   I hope some of this helped  SLOIGO
>
> Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@...> wrote:
>     Veranda it is!
>   Bud
>
> leslierussellgreen <swartz@...> wrote:
>   Bud - emailed you corrected coords for tres pinos - Veranda
> Cafe - and pinnacles visitor's center.  Don't know coords to
east
> campground; maybe they answer their phone and will save
> someone a trip out there in person.
> I see you have suggested Flapjacks in Tres Pinos.   We truly
love
> their food.  Pretty good prices.  But not as much seating as
> Veranda cafe, and no outdoor overflow area if this crowd gets
> big.  Actually, I would discourage Flapjacks just because they
> have such substantial breakfasts, and you might not want
> people so bogged down by a big meal before the hiking.
> - Leslie (Hotshoe, with Russell and Michael)
>
>
>
> --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I could use the coordinates for the cafe, the campground and
> the Visitor's Center.
> >   Do you live nearny?
> >   Bud 50sumtin
> >
> >
> > "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@> wrote:
> >   his sounds GREAT, You can count on me and three or four
of
> my
> > geocaching visitors.  If you need any help contact me and I
> would be
> > glad to help any way I can for your event.  dlnorris@
> > SLOIGO aka David L. Norris
> >
> > --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "bud" <fiftysumtin@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm getting ready to submit a cache description for a
> GeoEvent for
> > > March 25: Camp, Cafe, and Pinnacles March. This will be
in
> the
> > vein of
> > > the Koffee and Kayaking that Touchstone put together in
> December.
> > >
> > > Cachers may log this event if they do any one of the
following:
> > >
> > > Camp at the private campground just outside the east side
of
> the
> > > Pinnacles East entrance, March 24 or 25.
> > > Join a gathering at the Flapjack's Country Cafe for
breakfast
> > March 25
> > > just south of Tres Pinos,and/or
> > > Join a group of cachers for a Wildflower hike in the
Pinnacles
> > March
> > > 25.
> > >
> > > I was thinking that breakfast would be between 8:30 am
and
> 9:30 am
> > and
> > > that we could then regroup at the east side visitor's center
at
> 10
> > to
> > > get the hike started.
> > >
> > > Comments are welcome!
> > >
> > > Bud
> > >
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We are looking forward to the fun of hunting some more of your
caches.  Please just save us a cache-hiding spot in "downtown"
Tres Pinos .  We don't have any caches ready-to-go, but we have
two spots in mind.  If you have 10 or so spots further down the
road, this will be quite a trip !

Think you are good with 40 minutes from Tres Pinos to
Pinnacles - we have made it in 45min, without rushing, from
Hollister (south edge of town) to pay-station at entrance to
Pinnacles Nat'l Monument.  Cachers will have to wait to pick up
the enroute caches on the way back !! Cannot stress enough that
we need to get there early if anyone is going to survive hiking in
the heat we can expect by the end of March.  But even after a hard
day, a dozen or two caches on the way home will stir up some
fresh energy.
Figure the entrance gate / pay station will be open when we get
there.  Depending on how crowded is the park that morning, we
would prefer to gather at the Bear Creek visitor's center, which is
one of the earthcaches (just sign the guestbook) and a good
place to fill water bottles, use restroom, etc.   If we get sent to
overflow-parking, we will have to hike up to Bear Creek anyways
to get started on the trail to the other earthcaches. 


--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@...>
wrote:
>
> Momma and I went out there today and got lots of coordinates
for the field trip.  I was wondering why no caches in the park
area.  I have 20 caches READY to set out.  I spotted numerous
places on the way in to hide caches on that side of town.  My wife
is EXTREMELY anti-caching so when she is along I don't get to
play.  I did pick up Momoma's "Stop Stareing at me" but
grummble grumble.  Without stopping it took 40 min to get there
from Tres Pinos to the campground store.  There are currently 4
caches on the way, ( I have already found them) so I do not think
30 min is time enough between breakfast and the hike.  I could
EASILY put out 10 caches before getting into the park but it
would slow everyone down, they might never get to the hike.   I
think you need to to allow an hour because if the Gate is not
manned you have to go to the Bear Gulch Visitor Center to sign
in and buy a visitor pass.  The lady there said to go back out the
way we came in, cross the bridge and turn left to go
>  to the Chalone Trail Head Parking area.  That trail goes about
3.5 mi hike and ends at a trailhead called Balconies and there
are caves there.  You reach that side from Salinas but she said
that t rail would be your best bet at seeing wildflowers.  They said
they have only had 5" of rain  this year so it is going to be lean.  I
have no experience up there so I can not say one way or another. 
Here are your coordinates:
>   Flapjack's parking lot (V Small) 36o 47.424N  121o 19.313W
>   Veranda's Parking Lot    36o 47.409N  121o 19.271W           "0"
mi
>     
>   The Pinnicles "Private" campground = www.pinncamp.com
>   Pinnicles Campground Store  36o 29.624N  121o 08.796W  
23.8 mi.
>
>   Pinnicles campground ticket booth  36029.607N   121o
08.791W
>   The campground store has sparse supplies at a very high
price.  Bring your own wood if you are camping.  The sign said
"Wood Gathers would be Evicted"  They sell wood and presto
logs  
>                 ------------------------------------------------------------
>     www.nps.gov/pinn
> Pinnicle's Front Gate (Closed) 36o 29.273N  121o 09.234W  
24.4 mi
>   1st Rest Stop viewing area 36o28.944N   121o 09.722W
(Good Gathering area)
>   Bear Gulch Visitor Centor 36o 28.881N  121o 10.864W     26
mi
>   Chalone Trail head (parking for maybe 10 cars) 36o 29.696N 
121o 10.384W
>   
>   These people appear very strict and were about to have a cow
beacuse they saw a boy scout carrying a skateboard down the
paved road.  No pets are allowed.  I have a snake bite kit. 
Chalone has porta pottie toilets but NO WATER. 
>   
>   By the time of our hike, they expect to have 2 different posters
of the area wild flowers for sale at the visitor's center
>   
>   I hope some of this helped  SLOIGO
>  
> Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@...> wrote:
>     Veranda it is!
>   Bud
>
> leslierussellgreen <swartz@...> wrote:
>   Bud - emailed you corrected coords for tres pinos - Veranda
> Cafe - and pinnacles visitor's center.  Don't know coords to
east
> campground; maybe they answer their phone and will save
> someone a trip out there in person.
> I see you have suggested Flapjacks in Tres Pinos.   We truly
love
> their food.  Pretty good prices.  But not as much seating as
> Veranda cafe, and no outdoor overflow area if this crowd gets
> big.  Actually, I would discourage Flapjacks just because they
> have such substantial breakfasts, and you might not want
> people so bogged down by a big meal before the hiking. 
> - Leslie (Hotshoe, with Russell and Michael)
>
>
>
> --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I could use the coordinates for the cafe, the campground and
> the Visitor's Center.
> >   Do you live nearny?
> >   Bud 50sumtin
> >  
> >
> > "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@> wrote:
> >   his sounds GREAT, You can count on me and three or four
of
> my
> > geocaching visitors.  If you need any help contact me and I
> would be
> > glad to help any way I can for your event.  dlnorris@
> > SLOIGO aka David L. Norris
> >
> > --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "bud" <fiftysumtin@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm getting ready to submit a cache description for a
> GeoEvent for
> > > March 25: Camp, Cafe, and Pinnacles March. This will be
in
> the
> > vein of
> > > the Koffee and Kayaking that Touchstone put together in
> December.
> > >
> > > Cachers may log this event if they do any one of the
following:
> > >
> > > Camp at the private campground just outside the east side
of
> the
> > > Pinnacles East entrance, March 24 or 25.
> > > Join a gathering at the Flapjack's Country Cafe for
breakfast
> > March 25
> > > just south of Tres Pinos,and/or
> > > Join a group of cachers for a Wildflower hike in the
Pinnacles
> > March
> > > 25.
> > >
> > > I was thinking that breakfast would be between 8:30 am
and
> 9:30 am
> > and
> > > that we could then regroup at the east side visitor's center
at
> 10
> > to
> > > get the hike started.
> > >
> > > Comments are welcome!
> > >
> > > Bud
> > >
> >
> >
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Thank you so much for the coordinates!
I thgink that we are set on the east side and the Verona Cafe. I
will allow an hour from the cafe to the Park trail head.

Bud
--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@...> wrote:
>
> Momma and I went out there today and got lots of coordinates for
the field trip.  I was wondering why no caches in the park area.  I
have 20 caches READY to set out.  I spotted numerous places on the
way in to hide caches on that side of town.  My wife is EXTREMELY
anti-caching so when she is along I don't get to play.  I did pick
up Momoma's "Stop Stareing at me" but grummble grumble.  Without
stopping it took 40 min to get there from Tres Pinos to the
campground store.  There are currently 4 caches on the way, ( I have
already found them) so I do not think 30 min is time enough between
breakfast and the hike.  I could EASILY put out 10 caches before
getting into the park but it would slow everyone down, they might
never get to the hike.   I think you need to to allow an hour
because if the Gate is not manned you have to go to the Bear Gulch
Visitor Center to sign in and buy a visitor pass.  The lady there
said to go back out the way we came in, cross the bridge and turn
left to go
>  to the Chalone Trail Head Parking area.  That trail goes about
3.5 mi hike and ends at a trailhead called Balconies and there are
caves there.  You reach that side from Salinas but she said that t
rail would be your best bet at seeing wildflowers.  They said they
have only had 5" of rain  this year so it is going to be lean.  I
have no experience up there so I can not say one way or another.
Here are your coordinates:
>   Flapjack's parking lot (V Small) 36o 47.424N  121o 19.313W
>   Veranda's Parking Lot    36o 47.409N  121o 19.271W           "0"
mi
>
>   The Pinnicles "Private" campground = www.pinncamp.com
>   Pinnicles Campground Store  36o 29.624N  121o 08.796W   23.8 mi.
>
>   Pinnicles campground ticket booth  36029.607N   121o 08.791W
>   The campground store has sparse supplies at a very high price.
Bring your own wood if you are camping.  The sign said "Wood Gathers
would be Evicted"  They sell wood and presto logs
>                 ---------------------------------------------------
---------
>     www.nps.gov/pinn
> Pinnicle's Front Gate (Closed) 36o 29.273N  121o 09.234W   24.4 mi
>   1st Rest Stop viewing area 36o28.944N   121o 09.722W (Good
Gathering area)
>   Bear Gulch Visitor Centor 36o 28.881N  121o 10.864W     26 mi
>   Chalone Trail head (parking for maybe 10 cars) 36o 29.696N  121o
10.384W
>
>   These people appear very strict and were about to have a cow
beacuse they saw a boy scout carrying a skateboard down the paved
road.  No pets are allowed.  I have a snake bite kit.  Chalone has
porta pottie toilets but NO WATER.
>
>   By the time of our hike, they expect to have 2 different posters
of the area wild flowers for sale at the visitor's center
>
>   I hope some of this helped  SLOIGO
>
> Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@...> wrote:
>     Veranda it is!
>   Bud
>
> leslierussellgreen <swartz@...> wrote:
>   Bud - emailed you corrected coords for tres pinos - Veranda
> Cafe - and pinnacles visitor's center.  Don't know coords to east
> campground; maybe they answer their phone and will save
> someone a trip out there in person.
> I see you have suggested Flapjacks in Tres Pinos.   We truly love
> their food.  Pretty good prices.  But not as much seating as
> Veranda cafe, and no outdoor overflow area if this crowd gets
> big.  Actually, I would discourage Flapjacks just because they
> have such substantial breakfasts, and you might not want
> people so bogged down by a big meal before the hiking.
> - Leslie (Hotshoe, with Russell and Michael)
>
>
>
> --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I could use the coordinates for the cafe, the campground and
> the Visitor's Center.
> >   Do you live nearny?
> >   Bud 50sumtin
> >
> >
> > "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@> wrote:
> >   his sounds GREAT, You can count on me and three or four of
> my
> > geocaching visitors.  If you need any help contact me and I
> would be
> > glad to help any way I can for your event.  dlnorris@
> > SLOIGO aka David L. Norris
> >
> > --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "bud" <fiftysumtin@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm getting ready to submit a cache description for a
> GeoEvent for
> > > March 25: Camp, Cafe, and Pinnacles March. This will be in
> the
> > vein of
> > > the Koffee and Kayaking that Touchstone put together in
> December.
> > >
> > > Cachers may log this event if they do any one of the following:
> > >
> > > Camp at the private campground just outside the east side of
> the
> > > Pinnacles East entrance, March 24 or 25.
> > > Join a gathering at the Flapjack's Country Cafe for breakfast
> > March 25
> > > just south of Tres Pinos,and/or
> > > Join a group of cachers for a Wildflower hike in the Pinnacles
> > March
> > > 25.
> > >
> > > I was thinking that breakfast would be between 8:30 am and
> 9:30 am
> > and
> > > that we could then regroup at the east side visitor's center
at
> 10
> > to
> > > get the hike started.
> > >
> > > Comments are welcome!
> > >
> > > Bud
> > >
> >
> >
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Thank you all for your caching enthusiasm!

I think that the "geoevent" will have it's hands full with camping
at the private campground, meeting at the Veanda Cafe, meeting at
the Visitor's Center, and hiking in the Pinnacles on Saturday.

Based on the threads, I will allow for one hour between leaving the
Veranda Cafe (9:30) and starting the 10-mile hike at the Visitor's
Center (10:30) which should leave at least 8 hours of daylight for
the hike set for the end of March pre-Daylight Savings Time.

FYI: to qualify as a geoevent, I probably CANNOT reference the
finding of caches as part of the event if I want to get the event
qualified as a geoevent.

That said, anyone who wishes to place caches to "enhance" the before
and after event possibilities is free to do so! After all, there is
the Friday before and the Sunday after the event unaccounted for ...

Again, thank you for your enthusiasm and support!

50sumtin

--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@...> wrote:
>
> I am alway glad to comply for you, as well as mystify with my
caches when I can.  I don't think one person should do all of the
caches.  It would be good to get volunteers so that several people
can "Show their stuff".  How about 4 (people/group-teams)
volunteering to put 3 -4 caches out each.  Bud, if you would like
for me to coordinate this for your event I would be honored.  Let me
know
>
>   ps  There is a small monument on the west side of Tres Pinos
that is naked - but I didn't see it - Really
>
>   It is too bad we can't have a Worker of Wood style cache perp
session for those coming who are not up to walking in the mountains
but we might get beat up by the Rangers for releasing spray paint
propellent into the atmosphere or something.
>
> leslierussellgreen <swartz@...> wrote:
>   We are looking forward to the fun of hunting some more of your
> caches.  Please just save us a cache-hiding spot in "downtown"
> Tres Pinos .  We don't have any caches ready-to-go, but we have
> two spots in mind.  If you have 10 or so spots further down the
> road, this will be quite a trip !
>
> Think you are good with 40 minutes from Tres Pinos to
> Pinnacles - we have made it in 45min, without rushing, from
> Hollister (south edge of town) to pay-station at entrance to
> Pinnacles Nat'l Monument.  Cachers will have to wait to pick up
> the enroute caches on the way back !! Cannot stress enough that
> we need to get there early if anyone is going to survive hiking in
> the heat we can expect by the end of March.  But even after a hard
> day, a dozen or two caches on the way home will stir up some
> fresh energy.
> Figure the entrance gate / pay station will be open when we get
> there.  Depending on how crowded is the park that morning, we
> would prefer to gather at the Bear Creek visitor's center, which
is
> one of the earthcaches (just sign the guestbook) and a good
> place to fill water bottles, use restroom, etc.   If we get sent
to
> overflow-parking, we will have to hike up to Bear Creek anyways
> to get started on the trail to the other earthcaches.
>
>
> --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Momma and I went out there today and got lots of coordinates
> for the field trip.  I was wondering why no caches in the park
> area.  I have 20 caches READY to set out.  I spotted numerous
> places on the way in to hide caches on that side of town.  My wife
> is EXTREMELY anti-caching so when she is along I don't get to
> play.  I did pick up Momoma's "Stop Stareing at me" but
> grummble grumble.  Without stopping it took 40 min to get there
> from Tres Pinos to the campground store.  There are currently 4
> caches on the way, ( I have already found them) so I do not think
> 30 min is time enough between breakfast and the hike.  I could
> EASILY put out 10 caches before getting into the park but it
> would slow everyone down, they might never get to the hike.   I
> think you need to to allow an hour because if the Gate is not
> manned you have to go to the Bear Gulch Visitor Center to sign
> in and buy a visitor pass.  The lady there said to go back out the
> way we came in, cross the bridge and turn left to go
> >  to the Chalone Trail Head Parking area.  That trail goes about
> 3.5 mi hike and ends at a trailhead called Balconies and there
> are caves there.  You reach that side from Salinas but she said
> that t rail would be your best bet at seeing wildflowers.  They
said
> they have only had 5" of rain  this year so it is going to be
lean.  I
> have no experience up there so I can not say one way or another.
> Here are your coordinates:
> >   Flapjack's parking lot (V Small) 36o 47.424N  121o 19.313W
> >   Veranda's Parking Lot    36o 47.409N  121o
19.271W           "0"
> mi
> >
> >   The Pinnicles "Private" campground = www.pinncamp.com
> >   Pinnicles Campground Store  36o 29.624N  121o 08.796W
> 23.8 mi.
> >
> >   Pinnicles campground ticket booth  36029.607N   121o
> 08.791W
> >   The campground store has sparse supplies at a very high
> price.  Bring your own wood if you are camping.  The sign said
> "Wood Gathers would be Evicted"  They sell wood and presto
> logs
> >                 -------------------------------------------------
-----------
> >     www.nps.gov/pinn
> > Pinnicle's Front Gate (Closed) 36o 29.273N  121o 09.234W
> 24.4 mi
> >   1st Rest Stop viewing area 36o28.944N   121o 09.722W
> (Good Gathering area)
> >   Bear Gulch Visitor Centor 36o 28.881N  121o 10.864W     26
> mi
> >   Chalone Trail head (parking for maybe 10 cars) 36o 29.696N
> 121o 10.384W
> >
> >   These people appear very strict and were about to have a cow
> beacuse they saw a boy scout carrying a skateboard down the
> paved road.  No pets are allowed.  I have a snake bite kit.
> Chalone has porta pottie toilets but NO WATER.
> >
> >   By the time of our hike, they expect to have 2 different
posters
> of the area wild flowers for sale at the visitor's center
> >
> >   I hope some of this helped  SLOIGO
> >
> > Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@> wrote:
> >     Veranda it is!
> >   Bud
> >
> > leslierussellgreen <swartz@> wrote:
> >   Bud - emailed you corrected coords for tres pinos - Veranda
> > Cafe - and pinnacles visitor's center.  Don't know coords to
> east
> > campground; maybe they answer their phone and will save
> > someone a trip out there in person.
> > I see you have suggested Flapjacks in Tres Pinos.   We truly
> love
> > their food.  Pretty good prices.  But not as much seating as
> > Veranda cafe, and no outdoor overflow area if this crowd gets
> > big.  Actually, I would discourage Flapjacks just because they
> > have such substantial breakfasts, and you might not want
> > people so bogged down by a big meal before the hiking.
> > - Leslie (Hotshoe, with Russell and Michael)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, Bud Gawlik <fiftysumtin@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I could use the coordinates for the cafe, the campground and
> > the Visitor's Center.
> > >   Do you live nearny?
> > >   Bud 50sumtin
> > >
> > >
> > > "David L. Norris" <dlnorris@> wrote:
> > >   his sounds GREAT, You can count on me and three or four
> of
> > my
> > > geocaching visitors.  If you need any help contact me and I
> > would be
> > > glad to help any way I can for your event.  dlnorris@
> > > SLOIGO aka David L. Norris
> > >
> > > --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "bud" <fiftysumtin@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm getting ready to submit a cache description for a
> > GeoEvent for
> > > > March 25: Camp, Cafe, and Pinnacles March. This will be
> in
> > the
> > > vein of
> > > > the Koffee and Kayaking that Touchstone put together in
> > December.
> > > >
> > > > Cachers may log this event if they do any one of the
> following:
> > > >
> > > > Camp at the private campground just outside the east side
> of
> > the
> > > > Pinnacles East entrance, March 24 or 25.
> > > > Join a gathering at the Flapjack's Country Cafe for
> breakfast
> > > March 25
> > > > just south of Tres Pinos,and/or
> > > > Join a group of cachers for a Wildflower hike in the
> Pinnacles
> > > March
> > > > 25.
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking that breakfast would be between 8:30 am
> and
> > 9:30 am
> > > and
> > > > that we could then regroup at the east side visitor's center
> at
> > 10
> > > to
> > > > get the hike started.
> > > >
> > > > Comments are welcome!
> > > >
> > > > Bud
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Hey Ben
Good to hear from you!
Hope things are going well in the Windy City. Brrr!

-Susie

On Feb 12, 2006, at 7:05 AM, teambiggeeks wrote:

> Hi All,
> And greetings from stinkin' cold Chicago.  I was just reading this
> thread and wanted to mention that one of the less active Biggeeks is
> a full fledged ranger at Pinnacles, and I may be able to solicit him
> for any help if needed.
> But even if you don't need any help, be sure to keep your eyes open
> for a shorter hispanic ranger named Robles, and give'em a "Team
> biggeeks rules" if you see him :)  Man, we would so go to this if we
> still lived there.  Oh well, hope everyone has fun!
>
> Biggeek Ben
> benjamin.haberthur@...

A quick note:

FYI, the "Camp, Veranda Cafe and Pinnacles March" (GCRPH4) geoevent
has been approved!

Hope to see many of you there!

I recommend carpooling!

50sumtin

A quick note:

FYI, the "Camp, Veranda Cafe and Pinnacles March" (GCRPH4) geoevent
has been approved!

Hope to see many of you there!

I recommend carpooling!

50sumtin

Hi Bud,

I wish to participate in the hike, but I am not sure I am up to a 10 mi hike in one day.  That's quite a bit for us ole farts.  I am usually huffing and puffing on a .3 mi cache walk and am concerned that it would be too much for me.  The north trail was 3.5 mi and I had reservations about that.

bud <fiftysumtin@...> wrote:

A quick note:

FYI, the "Camp, Veranda Cafe and Pinnacles March" (GCRPH4) geoevent
has been approved!

Hope to see many of you there!

I recommend carpooling!

50sumtin

FYI: I just received a snail-mail package from "Yosemite National
Park" for CITO volunteer dates.

I just e-mailed the volunteer coordinator that I (we:us:geocachers)
would be interested in a (CITO) group park volunteer event for the
weekend of May 5-7, 2006.

This event should be similar to the VERY successful event that
Touchstone organized for last fall, which was very fun. (We attended
and met a lot of great geocachers! But more importantly, we gave
back to Yosemite Park!)

The commitment will be to clean out campfire pits for Saturday
morning. In exchange, attendees would get:

1) FREE park access to Yosemite for the week and
2) FREE camping in the Yellow Pine Campground (in the Great Meadow!)
for Friday and Saturday nights (which is very cool.)

I will submit a geocache description ASAP after if/when the co-
ordinator approves. (I will fax the required form Monday.)

As always, any feedback is appreciated.

Qualification for attendance to the CITO will be strictly limited to
Campfire clean-up with the group Saturday.

Bud 50sumtin

Hi, all!

I've been in touch with the volunteer coordinator for the Pinnacles
National Park.

Is there any interest in the group in participating in a CITO at the
Pinnacles for the later half of the month if I can organize one? April
23?

Bud 50sumtin

Hi, all!

I've been in touch with the volunteer coordinator for the Pinnacles
National Park.

Is there any interest in the group in participating in a CITO at the
Pinnacles for the later half of the month if I can organize one? April
23?

Bud 50sumtin

Time, tides and weather wait for no one.

Well, I'm keeping an eye on the weather forecast for Saturday versus
Sunday for this weekend.

As a veteran of a couple of rafting trips in the Alaska wilderness,
if the forecast were only for rain I would just carry on with our
current plans for a Saturday hike in the Pinnacles and enjoy getting
a little wet as a change of pace.

Unfortunately there is some discussion of a chance of thunderstorms
in some of the forecasts that I've read and that Touchstone has seen.

Being a safety manager, from a safety standpoint, if the forecast for
a chance of thunderstorms continues to hold up, we should postpone
the hiking part of the event for the sake of safety as being out in
open country during thunderstorms involves some risk of being struck
by lightning.

Right now the forecast for Sunday is much much better.

For those of you watching this forum, how many would rather breakfast
and hike on Sunday instead? (That actually works out better for me
and my family anyway.) I would still be willing to meet Saturday for
breakfast for those that would like to, and then again on Sunday
before a Sunday hike.

Please post replies at your convenience either to this forum or to
the cache page for this event on www.geocaching.com.

Thank you for your understanding, but I have an obligation to watch
out for our safety which very much comes first.

Sincerely yours,

Bud 50sumtin

NOTE FOR THOSE COMING SUNDAY: bring flashlights, and bring Tevas or
a second pair of shoes that you can use to walk through water. We
successfully adventured through the Caves to the other side without
mishap barefoot but I could have led a full and happy life without
the experience!

One other recommendation I have (besides the Tevas and flashlights)
would be to leave a shuttle car at the Cholone Picnic Area so we can
shuttle drivers back to the Visitor Center from there to shorten the
hike back by a mile or so.

See you Sunday!

Bud 50sumtin

--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "bud" <fiftysumtin@...> wrote:
>
> Time, tides and weather wait for no one.
>
> Well, I'm keeping an eye on the weather forecast for Saturday
versus
> Sunday for this weekend.
>
> As a veteran of a couple of rafting trips in the Alaska
wilderness,
> if the forecast were only for rain I would just carry on with our
> current plans for a Saturday hike in the Pinnacles and enjoy
getting
> a little wet as a change of pace.
>
> Unfortunately there is some discussion of a chance of
thunderstorms
> in some of the forecasts that I've read and that Touchstone has
seen.
>
> Being a safety manager, from a safety standpoint, if the forecast
for
> a chance of thunderstorms continues to hold up, we should postpone
> the hiking part of the event for the sake of safety as being out
in
> open country during thunderstorms involves some risk of being
struck
> by lightning.
>
> Right now the forecast for Sunday is much much better.
>
> For those of you watching this forum, how many would rather
breakfast
> and hike on Sunday instead? (That actually works out better for me
> and my family anyway.) I would still be willing to meet Saturday
for
> breakfast for those that would like to, and then again on Sunday
> before a Sunday hike.
>
> Please post replies at your convenience either to this forum or to
> the cache page for this event on www.geocaching.com.
>
> Thank you for your understanding, but I have an obligation to
watch
> out for our safety which very much comes first.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Bud 50sumtin
>

For those that missed the March Pinnacles event, or for those who are
interested in helping out the Park, I am submitting a cache request
for the following Event for Saturday, April 29:

Please participate in a Volunteer in the Park (VIP) Project at the
Pinnacles Chalone Creek Picnic Area. Picnic and hike to follow if
there is interest.

  I have been in contact with the Volunteer Coordinator for the
Pinnacles National Park for a Volunteer Project.

The Volunteer Project coordinator would like to have at least 10
people who are handy with basic tools (wrenches, screwdrivers, etc.)
help erect a play strucuture at the Chalone Creek Picnic Area.

The Park will supply tools, but you may want to bring your own. I
have looked over the Assembly Drawings and this does not look too
difficult.

If there is interest, we can have a picnic afterwards and finish the
day with a hike in the Park. There is a very easy trail of about 3
miles from Chalone Creek Picnic Area to the Caves (which would
collect 2 earthcaches and 1 virtual cache.) With Daylight Savings
Time, if time allows, we could do a loop up to the High Peaks as well
and catch more of the earthcaches.

Wildflowers should be in full bloom by then. too.

Until I get more details, let's assume that we will start between
8:30 am and 9 am.

Camping should still be available at the nearby private campground
for that weekend for those that want to camp and have a short drive
into the Park in the morning. But you should make reservations soon.
If there is enough interest I could look into a group reservation.

You can log this Event as Attended if you do any of the following:

1) Help erect the play structure.
2) Join in a picnic lunch afterwards
3) Join in a hike afterwards.

I will try to arrange for free entrance to the Park.

I will add more details later as I get them.

50sumtin

Howdy all,

it us us, oldtimers AltDotAir, checking back in. We've been somewhat
inactive the last couple of years due to child-rearing distractions
combined with a most definitively dead (and as yet unreplaced) GPS
unit. But I was happy to see there's a more organized group on line
now for the CCGC.

FYI...

- Matt (Alt)

Great to hear from you Matt.   I sure can commiserate about the dead
GPS.  I thought I'd killed mine about a year ago crossing the Carmel
River and falling into a sucker hole up to my chest, but it finally
gave up the ghost on a trek out to Ventana Double Cone a couple of
weeks ago.

Just an FYI: This group was started by another old timer,
compass_bearing_north.  There is also a reasonably active group up in
Santa Cruz:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GeocachingSantaCruz/

It might be worth your time to join that group as well, as the two
groups overlap on quite a few things like hikes and Events.  That
group is headed up by Chikasaw and the spiritual leader of both
groups, Coralgeo.  Both groups use the familiar CCGC logo made by
Raygun_88 a few years back.

And don't worry about not having a GPS.  There's one member of this
group that I know of  that found nearly a hundred caches before he
finally bought one ;)

Mike
aka Touchstone



--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew Wall" <wallmatt@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy all,
>
> it us us, oldtimers AltDotAir, checking back in. We've been somewhat
> inactive the last couple of years due to child-rearing distractions
> combined with a most definitively dead (and as yet unreplaced) GPS
> unit. But I was happy to see there's a more organized group on line
> now for the CCGC.
>
> FYI...
>
> - Matt (Alt)
>

--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "touchstone12002" wrote:
>and the spiritual leader of both groups, Coralgeo.

Spiritual leader???   LOL

Don't know if I can claim that ;-)

Good to hear from you again, Matt. Hope to see you and the family at the Spring
Forward
picnic event in Santa Cruz this Sunday.

-Coralgeo

Hi Matt,

We commiserate with your GPS problem. We logged on
last Sat to get coords for the Pinnacles event and
found our new OS did not support the software
installed in our GPS. We messed with it for a while
(making us miss the meeting times of the event)
finally gave up and went to the event without the GPS.
We finally uploaded new software this morning so we
will be set if we manage to make it to the SC event
tomorrow.
ParadiseFound
Kathy
--- touchstone12002 <touchstone12002@...> wrote:

> Great to hear from you Matt.   I sure can
> commiserate about the dead
> GPS.  I thought I'd killed mine about a year ago
> crossing the Carmel
> River and falling into a sucker hole up to my chest,
> but it finally
> gave up the ghost on a trek out to Ventana Double
> Cone a couple of
> weeks ago.
>
> Just an FYI: This group was started by another old
> timer,
> compass_bearing_north.  There is also a reasonably
> active group up in
> Santa Cruz:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GeocachingSantaCruz/
>
> It might be worth your time to join that group as
> well, as the two
> groups overlap on quite a few things like hikes and
> Events.  That
> group is headed up by Chikasaw and the spiritual
> leader of both
> groups, Coralgeo.  Both groups use the familiar CCGC
> logo made by
> Raygun_88 a few years back.
>
> And don't worry about not having a GPS.  There's one
> member of this
> group that I know of  that found nearly a hundred
> caches before he
> finally bought one ;)
>
> Mike
> aka Touchstone
>
>
>
> --- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew Wall"
> <wallmatt@...> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy all,
> >
> > it us us, oldtimers AltDotAir, checking back in.
> We've been somewhat
> > inactive the last couple of years due to
> child-rearing distractions
> > combined with a most definitively dead (and as yet
> unreplaced) GPS
> > unit. But I was happy to see there's a more
> organized group on line
> > now for the CCGC.
> >
> > FYI...
> >
> > - Matt (Alt)
> >
>
>
>
>
>


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FYI: I've posted pictures from the Pinnacles hikes at the GBA.net:
http://www.thegba.net/coppermine/index.php?cat=10200

Bud 50sumtin

For those that are interested in participating in a local Earth Day
CITO:

Just approved by Hemlock: GCV8AD: Earth Day Morning CITO at Davenport
Beach.

As always, any comments or suggestions are welcome.

Bud 50sumtin

There was a NO FIND post today for Veteran's Cache -- the oldest cache
in the entire Central Coast -- from a conscientious finder who was
scared off by the NO TRESPASSING signs. We're not the owners of this
cache but have been guardian angels of it from time to time, and below
is the note I posted to the cache page.

Matt (Alt of AltDotAir)

--

  note about the NO TRESPASSING signs.

The city of Monterey got a permanent easement on the use of this green
space by the public three decades ago when it allowed the development
above the trail in question. This allows the public to walk around
this area as an extension of the park's greenway, including the area
where the cache is.

Part of the homeowner's association is in a dispute with the City of
Monterey about who pays for the maintenance and fire-control brush
cutbacks of this particular stretch of greenway. The matter is in a
lawsuit right now, and the city is extremely likely to win. However,
as a sort of "in your face" move, the homeowner's assocation put up
"no trespassing" signs in the area for which there is a dispute. These
signs are, to the best of my knowledge, completely illegal, and the
local residents below the hill have virtually all complained to the
city about them. Off the record, the city officials tell us the signs
are going to go ASAP and they're just as annoyed as we are, but on the
record, they can't comment because of the pending litigation. The
"ASAP" is apparently as soon as the lawsuit makes its way through the
courts.

Is it trespassing? NO. Is it obvious to the gentle impact cacher? No.
My applause to the cachers who are being respectful of the signs. IMHO
-- fwiw, and take that with whatever grain of salt you must -- these
NO TRESPASSING signs are just as illegal and annoying as graffitti,
and should be given considerably less attention. So, I say, go and
find this cache, which is the oldest one in the entire central coast.
The likelihood of your being arrested for trespassing is (again, IMHO
fwiw) certainly close to nil.

I have three reserved tickets remaining from a 6-pack for the Jimmy Buffet
concert on
Tuesday April 25 8pm at the Shoreline Amphitheatre. Section 204, Row L. These
are actual
hard tickets, not TicketFast email receipts. Net cost to me was $145 each, and
includes $4
parking fee. Would love to have some Geocaching-Parrotheads join the fun! PM me
for more
info. -Coralgeo

Hi Matt,
Thanks for looking out for this cache and for posting the note. Let us know the
outcome of
the issue whenver it happens.
-Coralgeo

--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew Wall" <wallmatt@...> wrote:
>
> There was a NO FIND post today for Veteran's Cache -- the oldest cache
> in the entire Central Coast -- from a conscientious finder who was
> scared off by the NO TRESPASSING signs. We're not the owners of this
> cache but have been guardian angels of it from time to time, and below
> is the note I posted to the cache page.
>
> Matt (Alt of AltDotAir)

Hi all,
There hasn't been much activity on this board for a while so I thought I'd post
a message and
direct everyone to an event being held this summer. Expert Geocachers Badge
(GCWV45) will
be hosted by C-Major and friends on Aug 12. Check it out -- looks like fun!

One Week 'til the Expert Geocacher Badge Event. Really excited to see
everyone there :) It's going to be a blast! If you haven't seen it go
to Goecaching.com and look at GCWV45. Food Fun and Friends what more
can you ask for... maybe a few FTF caches and some TBs a few WJTBs
and Oh yea The mystic 2006 GJTB. Come on... what else do I have to
say to talk you into coming.
Hope to see you there.
MN16

If you missed out on getting your GJTB, I happen to know that there
will be a few at the Ord EGB Event (GCWV45) on Sat that will be
raffled off.
If your not interested in GJTBs come out anyway it should be fun.
MN16

If you missed out on getting your GJTB, I happen to know that there
will be a few at the Ord EGB Event (GCWV45) on Sat that will be
raffled off.
If your not interested in GJTBs come out anyway it should be fun.
MN16

Hello all:
I just wanted to mention how happy I was to be able to attend this
event, mostly for getting to know more geocachers and caching
together afterwards.  But I also ended up with 2 GJTBs to drop in
caches.  WooHoo! Oh, but I didn't win anything in the raffle. ;-)  I
arrived at 10:30 so missed all the early event excitement (ie:
Expert training, finding 6 caches without gps, finish line dash
accident).  I've been reading everyone's logs for those finds and
the event and it sounded really fun.  Thanks to all who helped make
the day!  I look forward to the next event.
- Chickasaw

--- In ccgca@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <davidpanaway@...> wrote:
>
> If you missed out on getting your GJTB, I happen to know that
there
> will be a few at the Ord EGB Event (GCWV45) on Sat that will be
> raffled off.
> If your not interested in GJTBs come out anyway it should be fun.
> MN16
>