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#35618 From: "Davew" <bairdmfr@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:29 am
Subject: Re: Got my burgee
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Got mine on Friday!! It is my reserve burgee and will hang in the salon until
needed on the bow!  Thanks for all the help
and hope you all have a great Christmas and continued successful boating in
2010!
Dave Wilson
42' Commander "Valhalla"




--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...> wrote:
>
> I have noticed my pictures can be seen by clicking on the "New Photos" link. 
I learned how to download pictures to an album, but have yet to figure out how
to attach them to a post.
> Lewis
>
> --- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Lewis" <lewisperrault@> wrote:
> >
> > Obviously I don't know how to properly attach pictures to my posts, and the
instructions leave a lot to be desired. With a little help, I would be proud to
show my new burgee.
> > Lewis
> > --- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Lewis" <lewisperrault@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got my Burgee today, and it's already flying over the bow of my boat.  I
have attached a couple of pictures to show it off.  Looks real good.  It has the
same colors as my Chris-Craft Burgee. I'm proud to fly it, and with it, I hope
to represent well, the love its members have for these grand old boats, that
more than ever, defined the standards for building fiberglass boats.  Frankly, I
don't believe their " bullet proof" standard has ever been met since the waning
days of glory these boats represent.  Getting my present to myself has reminded
me to wish everyone out there in the Commander Club a Merry Christmas; a Happy
New Year; and, calm waters for enjoying your boats to their maximum benefits.
> > >
> > > /Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burgee2.JPG
> > > /Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burger3.JPG
> > >
> >
>

#35617 From: Robert Cutchins <68chriscraft42@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] 31 Commander / salon window
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I thought I had a photo of this...

Here's Lee doing exactly what Jim has described (back in March 2000), replacing a port side window (boat arrived with a broken window). Top board comes off, window comes out, new window goes in, board back on.


-Rob

1 of 1 Photo(s)


#35616 From: Robert Cutchins <68chriscraft42@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] 31 Commander / salon window
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That's how we did it, when we replaced a window in CONFERENCE. The top board (w/ it's 6,789 screws) came off, and suddenly the window was easily accessible.

-Rob

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Jim Wick <JimWick@...> wrote:
 

I think Greg has the correct answer, and it isn't nearly as bad as what Scott in envisioning.  Think how it was put in originally and then do it backwards.  Broken windows were quite common and had to be replaced easily (well kind of easily).
 
Taking off the upper wood fascia boards should give you access to the upper track...as Greg said.  Nothing needs to be done with the lower wood trim.
 
Jim Wick LPX



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#35615 From: "Jim Wick" <JimWick@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] 31 Commander / salon window
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I think Greg has the correct answer, and it isn't nearly as bad as what Scott in envisioning.  Think how it was put in originally and then do it backwards.  Broken windows were quite common and had to be replaced easily (well kind of easily).
 
Taking off the upper wood fascia boards should give you access to the upper track...as Greg said.  Nothing needs to be done with the lower wood trim.
 
Jim Wick LPX
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CCCC] 31 Commander / salon window

 

Ooooh, i guess i misunderstood you Tim...sorry....

actually now that u tell me this, i think it would be easier to replace the aft door glass....wow... ;^p

I've never done the side glass removal... YET... (???)  but have had my salon torn down completely a few times. Unfortunately, i think this is gonna be a huge project.... I believe you will have to remove the entire couch and base, and cushions, and remove the interior wall panel beneath it. Then that large mahogany panel just at the sliding window bottom will have to be removed to gain access to the lower track. It is doweled and plugged in prolly thirty places.

The only other option may be to remove that top mahogany trim panel above, and see if any access to the track can be gained behind the trim panel once it is removed.

Ya know that sedan conversion to the 31 was quite the last minute addition i think.... and alot of the construction seemed to be designed rather haphazardly in my opinion.... On the 31 express the fiberglass floor and deck extended all the way to the bulkhead, and they had fiberglass engine hatches too. But on our sedans, they "sawzalled" it right at the teak door track threshold plank, and everything forward from there is wood. engine hatches and all.  And water finds its way in to those lower corners on every sedan i've seen, and rots out all the wood behind there. A HUGE undertaking for me last winter/spring. I replaced more wood floors and supports and floor beams than i care to think about. This problem is prolly completely non existant in the express version of our boats.

I'm planning on stopping down to my boat sometime in the next couple days, and i will investigate further how to gain access to these window tracks.

I will let you know what i find out...

scott

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Timothy Toth <dunroin@windstream.net> wrote:
Scott,
 
Forgot to mention ,the sliding window above the salon sofa needs to be removed / replaced not the entry doors to the salon , this is also a flybridge boat. I am a rookie at replacing Commander windows .
 
Tim


#35614 From: Greg Gajcak <ggajcak@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] 31 Commander / salon window
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Hi Tim,

If you remove the wood trim above the windows it should allow for removal of screens and it should also expose the upper track which should be fastened with small screws.  When you remove those be careful as they will tilt in.  Reverse ther order once you have new glass.

Greg Gajcak
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On Dec 20, 2009, at 11:12 AM, "Dunroin" <dunroin@...> wrote:

 

Captains,
Has anyone out there removed / replaced the starboard large sliding window in the salon for a 31 sedan ? Looking for any info . Ladders leaning on windows are not good idea !
Tim


#35613 From: Scott Anderson <comdrsca@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] 31 Commander / salon window
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Ooooh, i guess i misunderstood you Tim...sorry....
actually now that u tell me this, i think it would be easier to replace the aft door glass....wow... ;^p

I've never done the side glass removal... YET... (???)  but have had my salon torn down completely a few times. Unfortunately, i think this is gonna be a huge project.... I believe you will have to remove the entire couch and base, and cushions, and remove the interior wall panel beneath it. Then that large mahogany panel just at the sliding window bottom will have to be removed to gain access to the lower track. It is doweled and plugged in prolly thirty places.

The only other option may be to remove that top mahogany trim panel above, and see if any access to the track can be gained behind the trim panel once it is removed.

Ya know that sedan conversion to the 31 was quite the last minute addition i think.... and alot of the construction seemed to be designed rather haphazardly in my opinion.... On the 31 express the fiberglass floor and deck extended all the way to the bulkhead, and they had fiberglass engine hatches too. But on our sedans, they "sawzalled" it right at the teak door track threshold plank, and everything forward from there is wood. engine hatches and all.  And water finds its way in to those lower corners on every sedan i've seen, and rots out all the wood behind there. A HUGE undertaking for me last winter/spring. I replaced more wood floors and supports and floor beams than i care to think about. This problem is prolly completely non existant in the express version of our boats.

I'm planning on stopping down to my boat sometime in the next couple days, and i will investigate further how to gain access to these window tracks.

I will let you know what i find out...

scott

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Timothy Toth <dunroin@...> wrote:
Scott,
 
Forgot to mention ,the sliding window above the salon sofa needs to be removed / replaced not the entry doors to the salon , this is also a flybridge boat. I am a rookie at replacing Commander windows .
 
Tim


#35612 From: Scott Anderson <comdrsca@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] 31 Commander / salon window
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Hey Tim....

Yeah, i have had a bit of experience with these aft sliding window/door assemblies.
I had to remove them twice now, once in 1999, to facilitate the removal of my starboard engine, and again this past spring to begin my aft rear salon floor replacement project.

Which section is broken?? center or port or stbd??

What i did was to remove all the side attaching screws vertically that secure the side sections to the side vertical aluminum channel rail. This enabled all three sections to then slide freely on the lower track.  then u will see four screws on each side corner, and on inside too.. (total of 8 screws per corner) Remove these screws and the appropriate door section will begin disassembling from there. If u r lucky, u can slide out (horizontally) the broken glass panel, and have it duplicated, and re-install the new pane the same way... (heavy on the PANE !!! ----- in the @$$ i mite add!) --- a little glass humor this am... (^_^)

If this does not seem workable, then you may be forced to remove all the screws down below in that aluminum lower door track... (mounted on the teak threshold plank) and attempt to slide the whole 3 door panel and track out simultaneously...but beware, it is bedded down securely from the factory, and won't come loose w/o a fite!!

All in all, it's a huge pain in the butt.... I sincerely believe these 3 section sliding doors  were installed on the boat as a complete assembly, and just screwed down around the perimeter. Not designed to be removed any other way...or at all, for that matter!

I have pix if u may want to see how i did it back in the winter/spring of this year... I had my salon down so far that i had 4x4 timbers and hydraulic jacks supporting the aft hardtop posts.
Serious wood rot to the floorboards and side panels.... By far the biggest project i ever undertook on this boat.

hope some of this helps....

Scott Anderson

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Dunroin <dunroin@...> wrote:
 

Captains,
Has anyone out there removed / replaced the starboard large sliding window in the salon for a 31 sedan ? Looking for any info . Ladders leaning on windows are not good idea !
Tim



#35611 From: "Dunroin" <dunroin@...>
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:12 pm
Subject: 31 Commander / salon window
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Captains,
Has anyone out there removed / replaced the starboard large sliding window in
the salon  for a 31 sedan ? Looking for any info . Ladders leaning on windows
are not good idea !
Tim

#35610 From: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:09 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to cccommander
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#35609 From: "Jim Wick" <JimWick@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:14 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Onan fuel pipe pick up - does it go to the bottom of the tank?
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I won't swear that it always was like that, but yes, the gen pickup was shorter than the engine pickup.  Reason, if out on a hook or just running all three, and you get a little short on fuel, the "Hello" is the generator stopping.  And hopefully you aren't too far from the nearest go juice place.  So at that point, to get the greatest distance on the fuel you have left, you would open the valve between the tanks, and equalize the fuel for both engines.  After getting to the fuel dock, shut the equalizer valve off.  And then turn the gen back on.
 
Jim Wick
----- Original Message -----
From: adaleb
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: [CCCC] Onan fuel pipe pick up - does it go to the bottom of the tank?

 

Hoping Jim Wick can answer this one (or anybody else). On my 1979 330 Catalina Flybridge, does the tube for the generator go all the way to the bottom of the tank (starboard tank I believe?), or does this tube only go down "so far" so that if one is running the generator for long periods, it does not use up all of your fuel to get home?

The reason I ask is that some of you know I had troubles this summer where my 6.5 Onan would run for a few minutes just fine, then act like it was starving for fuel. I cleaned the filter, pulled the carb and cleaned it, made sure the pump was working, by passed the temp switch, etc., etc., still problems, only to then replace the points and condenser and everything was fine. I thought the points and condenser did the trick until I was just reading some notes on a Bayliner web site (what else to do in Crystal Lake IL on a cold Saturday in the dead of winter with six inches of snow on the ground .....). One of the posters was responding to questions of late model Kohlers quitting after a few minutes as well. The answer was that the fuel pickup make be exposed if the tank is not past 1/3 full?

What has me thinking is that I believe over the weeks of messing with things, I hit the gas dock and put 25-30 gallons into each tank. Wondering now if I did not need points/condenser (or carb clean), just a bit more fuel to get past the pick up tube?

Thoughts?

Dale

Dale Baker
1979 330 Catalina "Centaurus"
McKinley Marina Slip C-38
Milwaukee, WI


#35608 From: "Capt Mark Hunter" <captainmark100@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Onan fuel pipe pick up - does it go to the bottom of the tank?
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I concur captain.
The gennys fuel pickup will normally be a couple inches shorter than the engine pickup.
Depending make and model somewhere around 1/4 to 1/3 tank your genny will run out.
My 41 runs to just under 1/4 tank but I've seen gibson houseboats run out and still have over 1/3 tank left for the mains.

Capt Mark
Shindig

-Capt Mark
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Rick Traskos wrote:

I can't specifically comment on the 33's pick up tubes but they are supposed to be shorter to give you a little (not a lot)  spare fuel to get home.
I was running a new 58' footer from the Annapolis boat show to the Lauderdale show one day, and we had trouble with one engine quitting. The factory reversed the pick up tubes so the main was drawing from the shorter generator tube and running out of fuel when we still had over 1/4 tank left. It happens. RT  
----- Original Message -----
From: adaleb
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: [CCCC] Onan fuel pipe pick up - does it go to the bottom of the tank?

 

Hoping Jim Wick can answer this one (or anybody else). On my 1979 330 Catalina Flybridge, does the tube for the generator go all the way to the bottom of the tank (starboard tank I believe?), or does this tube only go down "so far" so that if one is running the generator for long periods, it does not use up all of your fuel to get home?

The reason I ask is that some of you know I had troubles this summer where my 6.5 Onan would run for a few minutes just fine, then act like it was starving for fuel. I cleaned the filter, pulled the carb and cleaned it, made sure the pump was working, by passed the temp switch, etc., etc., still problems, only to then replace the points and condenser and everything was fine. I thought the points and condenser did the trick until I was just reading some notes on a Bayliner web site (what else to do in Crystal Lake IL on a cold Saturday in the dead of winter with six inches of snow on the ground .....). One of the posters was responding to questions of late model Kohlers quitting after a few minutes as well. The answer was that the fuel pickup make be exposed if the tank is not past 1/3 full?

What has me thinking is that I believe over the weeks of messing with things, I hit the gas dock and put 25-30 gallons into each tank. Wondering now if I did not need points/condenser (or carb clean), just a bit more fuel to get past the pick up tube?

Thoughts?

Dale

Dale Baker
1979 330 Catalina "Centaurus"
McKinley Marina Slip C-38
Milwaukee, WI


#35607 From: "Rick Traskos" <rick_traskos@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Onan fuel pipe pick up - does it go to the bottom of the tank?
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I can't specifically comment on the 33's pick up tubes but they are supposed to be shorter to give you a little (not a lot)  spare fuel to get home.
I was running a new 58' footer from the Annapolis boat show to the Lauderdale show one day, and we had trouble with one engine quitting. The factory reversed the pick up tubes so the main was drawing from the shorter generator tube and running out of fuel when we still had over 1/4 tank left. It happens. RT  
----- Original Message -----
From: adaleb
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: [CCCC] Onan fuel pipe pick up - does it go to the bottom of the tank?

 

Hoping Jim Wick can answer this one (or anybody else). On my 1979 330 Catalina Flybridge, does the tube for the generator go all the way to the bottom of the tank (starboard tank I believe?), or does this tube only go down "so far" so that if one is running the generator for long periods, it does not use up all of your fuel to get home?

The reason I ask is that some of you know I had troubles this summer where my 6.5 Onan would run for a few minutes just fine, then act like it was starving for fuel. I cleaned the filter, pulled the carb and cleaned it, made sure the pump was working, by passed the temp switch, etc., etc., still problems, only to then replace the points and condenser and everything was fine. I thought the points and condenser did the trick until I was just reading some notes on a Bayliner web site (what else to do in Crystal Lake IL on a cold Saturday in the dead of winter with six inches of snow on the ground .....). One of the posters was responding to questions of late model Kohlers quitting after a few minutes as well. The answer was that the fuel pickup make be exposed if the tank is not past 1/3 full?

What has me thinking is that I believe over the weeks of messing with things, I hit the gas dock and put 25-30 gallons into each tank. Wondering now if I did not need points/condenser (or carb clean), just a bit more fuel to get past the pick up tube?

Thoughts?

Dale

Dale Baker
1979 330 Catalina "Centaurus"
McKinley Marina Slip C-38
Milwaukee, WI


#35606 From: "adaleb" <adaleb@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:45 pm
Subject: Onan fuel pipe pick up - does it go to the bottom of the tank?
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Hoping Jim Wick can answer this one (or anybody else).  On my 1979 330 Catalina
Flybridge, does the tube for the generator go all the way to the bottom of the
tank (starboard tank I believe?), or does this tube only go down "so far" so
that if one is running the generator for long periods, it does not use up all of
your fuel to get home?

The reason I ask is that some of you know I had troubles this summer where my
6.5 Onan would run for a few minutes just fine, then act like it was starving
for fuel. I cleaned the filter, pulled the carb and cleaned it, made sure the
pump was working, by passed the temp switch, etc., etc., still problems, only to
then replace the points and condenser and everything was fine.  I thought the
points and condenser did the trick until I was just reading some notes on a
Bayliner web site (what else to do in Crystal Lake IL on a cold Saturday in the
dead of winter with six inches of snow on the ground .....). One of the posters
was responding to questions of late model Kohlers quitting after a few minutes
as well. The answer was that the fuel pickup make be exposed if the tank is not
past 1/3 full?

What has me thinking is that I believe over the weeks of messing with things, I
hit the gas dock and put 25-30 gallons into each tank.  Wondering now if I did
not need points/condenser (or carb clean), just a bit more fuel to get past the
pick up tube?

Thoughts?

Dale

Dale Baker
1979 330 Catalina "Centaurus"
McKinley Marina Slip C-38
Milwaukee, WI

#35605 From: "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Got my burgee
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I have noticed my pictures can be seen by clicking on the "New Photos" link.  I
learned how to download pictures to an album, but have yet to figure out how to
attach them to a post.
Lewis

--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...> wrote:
>
> Obviously I don't know how to properly attach pictures to my posts, and the
instructions leave a lot to be desired. With a little help, I would be proud to
show my new burgee.
> Lewis
> --- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Lewis" <lewisperrault@> wrote:
> >
> > I got my Burgee today, and it's already flying over the bow of my boat.  I
have attached a couple of pictures to show it off.  Looks real good.  It has the
same colors as my Chris-Craft Burgee. I'm proud to fly it, and with it, I hope
to represent well, the love its members have for these grand old boats, that
more than ever, defined the standards for building fiberglass boats.  Frankly, I
don't believe their " bullet proof" standard has ever been met since the waning
days of glory these boats represent.  Getting my present to myself has reminded
me to wish everyone out there in the Commander Club a Merry Christmas; a Happy
New Year; and, calm waters for enjoying your boats to their maximum benefits.
> >
> > /Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burgee2.JPG
> > /Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burger3.JPG
> >
>

#35604 From: bruce snider <champ692@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] In and out!
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Everybody is welcome to stay!

I sold my 35' Commander in 2006. ;>(   but it is still very much in my blood!

Plan to have another one when the kiddos leave the nest , ( 4-8 years,
depending on the cost of Colleges)

Maybe even a 47' !!!

Enjoy the wonderful group!

Regards, Bruce

On 12/19/09, RossS <sherlund33@...> wrote:
> Hey there Commanders! I am a owner of a 1958 32' Commander. I bought it when
> I was Twenty years old. I just recently found the club and joined up. I love
> it this far, however, I have just started getting into it when I replaced my
> boat ("LAST CALL")with an upgrade! I know how exciting, right? The problem
> is that my new cruiser is a 1962 37' Constellation. My question is: is there
> a club like this for constellations and when you sell out do you the boot?
>
>


--
(469) 737-0833

#35603 From: "RossS" <sherlund33@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:21 pm
Subject: In and out!
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Hey there Commanders! I am a owner of a 1958 32' Commander. I bought it when I
was Twenty years old. I just recently found the club and joined up. I love it
this far, however, I have just started getting into it when I replaced my boat
("LAST CALL")with an upgrade! I know how exciting, right? The problem is that my
new cruiser is a 1962 37' Constellation. My question is: is there a club like
this for constellations and when you sell out do you the boot?

#35602 From: "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Got my burgee
lewisperrault
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Obviously I don't know how to properly attach pictures to my posts, and the
instructions leave a lot to be desired. With a little help, I would be proud to
show my new burgee.
Lewis
--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...> wrote:
>
> I got my Burgee today, and it's already flying over the bow of my boat.  I
have attached a couple of pictures to show it off.  Looks real good.  It has the
same colors as my Chris-Craft Burgee. I'm proud to fly it, and with it, I hope
to represent well, the love its members have for these grand old boats, that
more than ever, defined the standards for building fiberglass boats.  Frankly, I
don't believe their " bullet proof" standard has ever been met since the waning
days of glory these boats represent.  Getting my present to myself has reminded
me to wish everyone out there in the Commander Club a Merry Christmas; a Happy
New Year; and, calm waters for enjoying your boats to their maximum benefits.
>
> /Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burgee2.JPG
> /Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burger3.JPG
>

#35601 From: "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:03 pm
Subject: Got my burgee
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I got my Burgee today, and it's already flying over the bow of my boat.  I have
attached a couple of pictures to show it off.  Looks real good.  It has the same
colors as my Chris-Craft Burgee. I'm proud to fly it, and with it, I hope to
represent well, the love its members have for these grand old boats, that more
than ever, defined the standards for building fiberglass boats.  Frankly, I
don't believe their " bullet proof" standard has ever been met since the waning
days of glory these boats represent.  Getting my present to myself has reminded
me to wish everyone out there in the Commander Club a Merry Christmas; a Happy
New Year; and, calm waters for enjoying your boats to their maximum benefits.

/Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burgee2.JPG
/Users/lewisperrault/Pictures/Burgee/Burger3.JPG

#35600 From: "just_two_more" <just_two_more@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Marine head
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Paul
That looks just like my Boat.
Oh it is my boat.  I do like the Head Paul (the PO) installed.  It is a nice
setup, you don't spend too much time in there, I don't think there are many
heads you will find that take up less room.

I think this is the head installed.
http://www.sealandtechnology.com/productpages.asp?pid=37



--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Paul A. Mathias" <Paula@...> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
>
>
> Do you mean like this one? :-)
>
>
>
> Paul A. Mathias
>
> 1973 23' CC Lancer
>
> ORB 23 0002V
>
> Former 1967 31' FB Express Owner
>
> FXA-31-2143H
>
> PaulA@...
>
>   _____
>
> From: cccommander@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cccommander@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of mcmahonlarry38
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:18 AM
> To: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CCCC] Marine head
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been looking for a head to fit my 31 commander, I liked the sealand w/a
> 10 gal storage tank under the head but it's to big for the space in the
> head. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Larry
>

#35599 From: Robert Cutchins <68chriscraft42@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:13 am
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Holiday Greetings
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Thanks, Clyde and Tim. A lot of folks sometimes forget that this group of volunteers ("EC") lives in not only various parts of the country, but in two different countries. Trying to manage meetings (each month!!) via Skype conferencing calls, in different time zones, etc., can be challenging. We make the commitment to do this each and every month, to discuss ongoing projects, ideas for improving member benefits and safeguarding the accomplishments and assets of the organization. We do it because we each have a real passion to try and make membership in this organization something special. We've managed each and everything by keeping the "member" at the forefront. This might sound like a stump speech, but I can assure you it's not. My fellow EC members will attest to the fact that each meeting discusses how we can give something more to the group, and remain "dues-free". It's challenging, I'll be the first to tell you. But, with the enormous talent involved in the management of this organization, and the tireless work each has put into it,  we've managed to do just that.

I realize there is no way to completely satisfy over 1000 members all the time, but I do believe we have brought to market benefits that really make membership worthwhile. I can assure you, as the only member who has continuously served on the "management team" of the CCCC, it is incredibly challenging, but it's a helluvalot of fun, too. I adore the folks I work with, and have nothing but the utmost respect for them. They are simply the finest folks I have ever had the pleasure to team up with. 

Each member of the EC welcomes Scott onboard, and we look forward to continuing this tradition of moving forward. We look forward to Scott's fresh ideas, as well as a fresh approach to making membership in the one, and the only, Chris Craft Commander Club as enjoyable, entertaining and educational as possible. 

-Rob



On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Timothy Miller <timothy.miller2@...> wrote:
 



Clyde, well said.
Tim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: TODP
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: [CCCC] Holiday Greetings

 

Dear Members of the CCCC,

Just wanted to say THANK-YOU to our EC for the past 10+ years and to all who take care of the day to day in's an out's of the CCCC and the Dock Shop!!

Special thanks to Rob..... For always being there and keeping the PEACE in the group!

Special thanks to Chris..... For your leadership and support to the club over the last TWO terms... JOB WELL DONE!

Special thanks to Alarik..... Without you this club wouldn't be what it is with our Internet presence... as usual the new 2010 Calendar is EXCELLENT!
The duffle bags are a nice addition! Will make the captain an crew happy... If you all didn't get your's for Christmas yet... still time for New Years!!!!

Special thanks to Char..... whole lota e-mails to glean through, without you our data base would be gone!

Special thanks to Lyn..... FOR ALL THAT MONEY TO LOOK AFTER!!! LOL!

Special thanks to Whitney..... your talented graphics and dedication to the membership registry is appreciated by all.

Special thanks to all the CCCC members..... for taking an active involvement in OUR club! And a very special thanks for those few whom voted on our past elections...

A very WELCOMING SPECIAL thanks to Scott..... For taking on the duties and responsibility of our new CC! I think we are heading in a bright direction with the near and far future of this the "BEST COMMANDER CLUB" on the Internet!!!

Lots of others and you all know who you are... just wanted to say thanks to those that make us what we are!
Everyone have a great COMMANDING CHRISTMAS SEASON!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
TODP
clyde




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#35598 From: "Timothy Miller" <timothy.miller2@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Holiday Greetings
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Clyde, well said.
Tim
 
----- Original Message -----
From: TODP
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: [CCCC] Holiday Greetings

 

Dear Members of the CCCC,

Just wanted to say THANK-YOU to our EC for the past 10+ years and to all who take care of the day to day in's an out's of the CCCC and the Dock Shop!!

Special thanks to Rob..... For always being there and keeping the PEACE in the group!

Special thanks to Chris..... For your leadership and support to the club over the last TWO terms... JOB WELL DONE!

Special thanks to Alarik..... Without you this club wouldn't be what it is with our Internet presence... as usual the new 2010 Calendar is EXCELLENT!
The duffle bags are a nice addition! Will make the captain an crew happy... If you all didn't get your's for Christmas yet... still time for New Years!!!!

Special thanks to Char..... whole lota e-mails to glean through, without you our data base would be gone!

Special thanks to Lyn..... FOR ALL THAT MONEY TO LOOK AFTER!!! LOL!

Special thanks to Whitney..... your talented graphics and dedication to the membership registry is appreciated by all.

Special thanks to all the CCCC members..... for taking an active involvement in OUR club! And a very special thanks for those few whom voted on our past elections...

A very WELCOMING SPECIAL thanks to Scott..... For taking on the duties and responsibility of our new CC! I think we are heading in a bright direction with the near and far future of this the "BEST COMMANDER CLUB" on the Internet!!!

Lots of others and you all know who you are... just wanted to say thanks to those that make us what we are!
Everyone have a great COMMANDING CHRISTMAS SEASON!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
TODP
clyde


#35597 From: TODP <danimae@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:30 am
Subject: Holiday Greetings
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Dear Members of the CCCC,

  Just wanted to say THANK-YOU  to our EC for the past 10+ years and to all who
take care of the day to day in's an out's of the CCCC and the Dock Shop!!

  Special thanks to Rob..... For always being there and keeping the PEACE in the
group!

  Special thanks to Chris..... For your leadership and support to the club over
the last TWO terms... JOB WELL DONE!

  Special thanks to Alarik..... Without you this club wouldn't be what it is with
our Internet presence... as usual the new 2010 Calendar is EXCELLENT!
The duffle bags are a nice addition!  Will make the captain an crew happy... If
you all didn't get your's for Christmas yet... still time for New Years!!!!

  Special thanks to Char..... whole lota e-mails to glean through, without you
our data base would be gone!

  Special thanks to Lyn..... FOR ALL THAT MONEY TO LOOK AFTER!!! LOL!

  Special thanks to Whitney..... your talented graphics and dedication to the
membership registry is appreciated by all.

  Special thanks to all the CCCC members..... for taking an active involvement in
OUR club! And a very special thanks for those few whom voted on our past
elections...

  A very WELCOMING SPECIAL thanks to Scott.....  For taking on the duties and
responsibility of our new CC!  I think we are heading in a bright direction with
the near and far future of this the "BEST COMMANDER CLUB" on the Internet!!!

Lots of others and you all know who you are... just wanted to say thanks to
those that make us what we are!
Everyone have a great COMMANDING CHRISTMAS SEASON!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
TODP
clyde

#35596 From: Scott Anderson <comdrsca@...>
Date: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:03 am
Subject: A Heartfelt "Thank You" to all the Commanderos!!!
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Good Evening Commanderos....
 
   I just wanted to take a few minutes of your time this evening and thank you each and every one for the kind words, and support you have shown in this Chief Commander Election in 2009.
 
I do consider myself one lucky guy to be part of such a stupendous organization as this Chris Craft Commander Club of ours.  From its earliest inception as a 38' Commander Registry and discussion group on e-groups in 1999, to our well over a thousand member CCCC today, we are undoubtedly the last word in all things COMMANDER!!!  There may be imitations, and knock-offs.... but like Coke... We are the REAL THING baby!!! (^_^)
 
There are many personal thanks to go out at this time, and y'all know who you are... But to give credit where credit is due, first i must step back a few years and recognize our own "Grand Poobah Emeritus" (and old classmate) Todd Heinrich, for his was the original dream come to fruition.  Our present Chief Commander Chris Orphal deserves a lauding cheer for his very directed and level headed piloting of the CCCC ship for the past four years. he took over the helm at a rather trying time for us, with lots of changes, and his steady hand at the wheel is what has guided us safely into this port now, for our Holiday Break.    Dr. Curtis Radford M.D. is another gent who figures prominently in this club's development.  No one could forget the ever distinguished Richard Morland Esq, who has lent such a helping hand to me personally, figuring out all my Commander related maladies... I'm just glad he works for "Anderson Bloody Marys" and doesn't charge me by the hour, or the cell phone minute! 
Brother Timmy Miller, (forever to blame for put'n this bug in my ear!)  "Cuddin" Leeford Dahlen, (his "Deck Cleaner" Recipe-----)    Lawrence Neisler, Mikey Adam, The Rose Duo, The Pike Company, "Mom and Pop" Dick and Maureen Avery, Fred Hudson, Fred and Eileen, Rick Traskos, Brothers Rob, and Whit, The LPX crew, Brother Mike Schrage, The entire Clan Orphal, Brother Greg Gajcak, and who can forget the TODP himself, Clyde Caron.  Special Thanks go out all the way across the Atlantic Ocean to our awesome Webmaster Alarik Von Hofsten, who has brought this CCCC to the world via the internet.
 
I join a pretty small and distinguished fraternity of brethren very soon and just hope that by the Grace of God and hopin the creek don't rise, I will be able to do justice to the title of "Chief Commander". It is a task that i will look upon with "Vim and Vigah"... and hopefully in fairly short order we all will have a few surprises to share with y'all.
 
In closing, I want to wish each and every one of you a very Happy and Prosperous Holiday season this year, and hope everyone is well, and healthy.
 
And now, with that, me and my purple font will bid everyone a Merry Christmas and the happiest of New Years! It's time to head down to the Yacht Club for a celebratory beverage or two or nine!
 
Scott (ohiknowiveforgottentomentionsomeoneandmyphoneisgonnablowupanysecondnow) Anderson
Chief Commander Elect
Chris Craft Commander Club

#35595 From: "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:29 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
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Rick:
Thanks for the info.  I Just had a nice chat with a woman at LB Harvey Marine. 
She knew right off the bat what kind of light I was talking about.  She even
knew the model numbers right off the top of her head!  She says she will go look
in the back of the warehouse Monday to see if she has a replacement lens.  I'm
anticipating cramped hands this weekend, as I will be keeping my fingers crossed
until I hear back from her.   If she has a couple, I'm buying two:-)
Lew

--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Traskos" <rick_traskos@...> wrote:
>
> Lewis - If a google search doesn't help - try contacting L.B. Harvey in Miami
at:  (305)856-1583
> Their website is at: http://www.lbharveymarine.com/
>
> These guys are great for parts and advise for our big Raymarine search lights
on my 45' and, chances are, if they can't fix it, they will know who does. They 
had a lens for my Raymarine light. RT
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lewis
>   To: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:48 PM
>   Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
>
>
>
>   Thanks for the info Dick, however, upon checking out the catalogue for a
replacement lens that is 7-1/2" in diameter, I found sealed-beamed replacements
for Jabsco searchlights only, and they were limited to diameters of 7" & 8". I
think I will need to keep searching for just the 7-1/2" convex lens. Has anyone
else ever had to replace a lens such as this? Or am I going to have to be
satisfied with a flat piece of glass from the glass store?
>   Lewis
>
>   --- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Wick" <JimWick@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Should be no problem from www.jabsco.com. As I was looking at their
catalogue, I think "half mile" won't be as helpful as the size (6", 7", etc.).
>   >
>   > Jim Wick LPX
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: Lewis
>   > To: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
>   > Subject: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > I have a Portable Light Co. "half mile" searchlight with a broken lens.
Can anybody tell me where I can get a lens to replace it?
>   > Thanks,
>   > Lewis
>   >
>

#35594 From: "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
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Rick:
Thanks for the info.  I Just had a nice chat with a woman at LB Harvey Marine. 
She knew right off the bat what kind of light I was talking about.  She even
knew the model numbers right off the top of her head!  She says she will go look
in the back of the warehouse Monday to see if she has a replacement lens.  I'm
anticipating cramped hands this weekend, as I will be keeping my fingers crossed
until I hear back from her.   If she has a couple, I'm buying two:-)
Lew

--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Traskos" <rick_traskos@...> wrote:
>
> Lewis - If a google search doesn't help - try contacting L.B. Harvey in Miami
at:  (305)856-1583
> Their website is at: http://www.lbharveymarine.com/
>
> These guys are great for parts and advise for our big Raymarine search lights
on my 45' and, chances are, if they can't fix it, they will know who does. They 
had a lens for my Raymarine light. RT
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lewis
>   To: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:48 PM
>   Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
>
>
>
>   Thanks for the info Dick, however, upon checking out the catalogue for a
replacement lens that is 7-1/2" in diameter, I found sealed-beamed replacements
for Jabsco searchlights only, and they were limited to diameters of 7" & 8". I
think I will need to keep searching for just the 7-1/2" convex lens. Has anyone
else ever had to replace a lens such as this? Or am I going to have to be
satisfied with a flat piece of glass from the glass store?
>   Lewis
>
>   --- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Wick" <JimWick@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Should be no problem from www.jabsco.com. As I was looking at their
catalogue, I think "half mile" won't be as helpful as the size (6", 7", etc.).
>   >
>   > Jim Wick LPX
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: Lewis
>   > To: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
>   > Subject: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > I have a Portable Light Co. "half mile" searchlight with a broken lens.
Can anybody tell me where I can get a lens to replace it?
>   > Thanks,
>   > Lewis
>   >
>

#35593 From: "Dwayne" <DwayneJones@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:48 pm
Subject: GoLight
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While on the subject of search light, I want to say I really like the Go Light I
bought with the wireless remote.  Really works well on the river because rivers
are not that wide.
But, do not mount it on the foremost part of the bow like I did.  I have almost
lost it a couple times dealing with my anchor rope and the river current.
I should have mounted it on the cabin roof in front of the fly bridge.  Wiring
could have been easy from the bridge compartment.
I ended up wiring my light through a relay that is controlled by my navigation
light switch.  If nav switch is on the relay is pulled in so you can operate the
GoLight.  Without the relay I had too much voltage loss to rotate the light at
slow speed.
My dock neighbor found he had to wire his light through a switch of some type
also because when I was messing with my light his light would come on and stay
on all day and night because of the remote control.
Dwayne

#35592 From: "Rick Traskos" <rick_traskos@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
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Lewis - If a google search doesn't help - try contacting L.B. Harvey in Miami at:  (305)856-1583
Their website is at: http://www.lbharveymarine.com/    
 
These guys are great for parts and advise for our big Raymarine search lights on my 45' and, chances are, if they can't fix it, they will know who does. They  had a lens for my Raymarine light. RT
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lewis
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens

 

Thanks for the info Dick, however, upon checking out the catalogue for a replacement lens that is 7-1/2" in diameter, I found sealed-beamed replacements for Jabsco searchlights only, and they were limited to diameters of 7" & 8". I think I will need to keep searching for just the 7-1/2" convex lens. Has anyone else ever had to replace a lens such as this? Or am I going to have to be satisfied with a flat piece of glass from the glass store?
Lewis

--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Wick" <JimWick@...> wrote:
>
> Should be no problem from www.jabsco.com. As I was looking at their catalogue, I think "half mile" won't be as helpful as the size (6", 7", etc.).
>
> Jim Wick LPX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lewis
> To: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
> Subject: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
>
>
>
> I have a Portable Light Co. "half mile" searchlight with a broken lens. Can anybody tell me where I can get a lens to replace it?
> Thanks,
> Lewis
>


#35591 From: "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
lewisperrault
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Thanks for the info Dick, however, upon checking out the catalogue for a
replacement lens that is 7-1/2" in diameter, I found sealed-beamed replacements
for Jabsco searchlights only, and they were limited to diameters of 7" & 8".  I
think I will need to keep searching for just the 7-1/2" convex lens.  Has anyone
else ever had to replace a lens such as this?  Or am I going to have to be
satisfied with a flat piece of glass from the glass store?
Lewis

--- In cccommander@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Wick" <JimWick@...> wrote:
>
> Should be no problem from www.jabsco.com.  As I was looking at their
catalogue, I think "half mile" won't be as helpful as the size (6", 7", etc.).
>
> Jim Wick LPX
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lewis
>   To: cccommander@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
>   Subject: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
>
>
>
>   I have a Portable Light Co. "half mile" searchlight with a broken lens. Can
anybody tell me where I can get a lens to replace it?
>   Thanks,
>   Lewis
>

#35590 From: "Jim Wick" <JimWick@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: [CCCC] Searchlight lens
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Should be no problem from www.jabsco.com.  As I was looking at their catalogue, I think "half mile" won't be as helpful as the size (6", 7", etc.).
 
Jim Wick LPX
----- Original Message -----
From: Lewis
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: [CCCC] Searchlight lens

 

I have a Portable Light Co. "half mile" searchlight with a broken lens. Can anybody tell me where I can get a lens to replace it?
Thanks,
Lewis


#35589 From: "Lewis" <lewisperrault@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:44 pm
Subject: Searchlight lens
lewisperrault
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I have a Portable Light Co. "half mile" searchlight with a broken lens.  Can
anybody tell me where I can get a lens to replace it?
Thanks,
Lewis

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