... No Chris, not even close! Eastern Catholics came to Rome with their rites intact. Western Orthodoxy takes Western rites, changes them, and then invites...
Scott Windsor
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Mar 1, 2008 8:11 am
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... No Chris, not even close! Eastern Catholics came to Rome with their rites intact. Western Orthodoxy takes Western rites, changes them, and then invites...
Scott Windsor
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Mar 1, 2008 8:11 am
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... There was nothing obtuse about what I said. It was rather obtuse of YOU to say "If you don't believe there were any Christians in the west who were...
Scott Windsor
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Mar 1, 2008 8:26 am
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... You STILL haven't answered the question! ... I didn't try - I did it. Is my representation of your words false? Yes or no, please. If yes - then retract...
Scott Windsor
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Mar 1, 2008 9:09 am
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... Document or retract that I made any such claim....
... Sorry Chris, but your accusation was that the Pope discussed this with his advisors. You have not documented your claim in the least! ... Um, the...
Scott Windsor
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Mar 1, 2008 9:54 am
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... Since their rites have changed, I find that claim questionable. ... That might have happened in one particular situation, but it's not the whole story as ...
... Document or retract. I'm sick of this. I quoted you universities saying that it does make it an indirect quotation. You're denying it. Time for you to pony...
... For the moment I withdraw the statement that the Pope plotted it. Nevertheless it was plotted. ... Better a Patriarch than some random Jesuits. ... Any...
1) Jesus says anyone who divorces makes their spouse commit adultery. Even if you don't marry again, it doesn't let you off the hook. Where are all the Roman...
Gee Chris, you've made so much smoke with all your smoke blowing that you've forgotten your own posts ... but I'll oblige you with the material you ask for and...
... Thank you. ... Your opinion is noted. (yawn) ... We don't just yet, but when your conversion is complete and you give up, once and for all, the Protestant...
Scott Windsor
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Mar 1, 2008 5:15 pm
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... I documented myself quite well - including the use of your ENTIRE SENTENCE, not dissecting it and using little PARTS of what YOU SAID to make it "fit" the...
Scott Windsor
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Mar 1, 2008 5:29 pm
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... Document that YOU claim that Western Orthodoxy (the brand new "church" formed by the Patriarch of Moscow and an Archbishop) has existed since the time of...
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Mar 1, 2008 6:00 pm
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When reading that link it is clear that Photius is not considered a saint by Rome; on the contrary his qualities lead one to an opposite conclusion. Maggie ...
Divorce is not a sin. It never has been a sin. However, if a man or woman divorce and either or both end up in new relationships then those relationships are...
I agree with you, Maggie. After some research on Photius and his role as a schismatic, I whole-heartedly agree. I cannot find anywhere else (besides...
I do not know if Photius is a saint in the Catholic Church; he was certainly a contentious character and his election as patriarch of Constantinople in the...
... don't ... DIVORCE is adultery. Chapter and verse please. Matt. 5:32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of ...
... I guess I should have yawned at your corresponding opinion. ... 1) Your complaint was that Western Orthodoxy was similar but not the same as Western ...
... Yes, and that isn't an indirect quoation because.... what? You keep making claims, but you won't back them up. You tell us what you think identifies an...
... com, ... There's no contradiction between saying that Western Orthodoxy existed since the first century and not claiming that it existed continuously since...
... contrary his qualities lead one to an opposite conclusion. ... So the Vatican prints liturgical texts venerating Photius, but doesn't consider him a saint....
Chris, what I want is fewer ignorant unsupported claims from you and more rational well supported argument from you. If all you have is an occasional childish...
... DIVORCE is adultery. Chapter and verse please. Matt. 5:32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity,...
"So the Vatican prints liturgical texts venerating Photius, but doesn't consider him a saint." ***Please post a link to these alleged liturgical texts or cut...
... And what I want from you is less whiny unsubstantiated complaints, because you didn't comprehend what I said or you asked an irrational question....
... Divorce has a whole lot of consequences, including the ones you mention, and that hasn't changed. That's the human condition and the reason why something...