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This was "P's" first message to the ACTS group: A post to start things off, it is rather late where I am right now, so Id just like to see what the christian...
Scott Windsor
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... now, ... here ... Check out: http://www.sd83.bc.ca/stu/9801/mrl3hp.html nuf said Tell me that this is "Not good". This time I will resist the urge to...
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P. There is a problem with yur post. It is heavely biased, you need to look at things from several angles before you make a judgement. Especially one that...
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"Labeling is what you do best!" Hay, Hold it right there for one moment, you said "American Catholic". This book was writen by a Catholic man, who is a...
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P. Wrote ... Leave it at what? You posted mainly opinions and one review or someone who disagreed with the style and not the substance of the book. Your...
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Patrick, What *exactly* do you seek? I will not deny that Native Americans were mistreated and taken advantage of, but let's face facts. 1) I, today, am not...
Scott Windsor
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Quite simply, most of the main relegions of the world will eventually and quite simply fade away. Thus one must not forget where they came from, I guess you...
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... to ... I think you're more of an agnostic than an atheist, and perhaps not even that. You acknowledge the "Great Spirit," which is a god, of sorts - so...
Scott Windsor
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... From: Lester Alberque [mailto:alberquel@...] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:22 AM To: CatholicOpenDiscussion@yahoogroups.com Cc: bigscott@... ...
Scott Windsor
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... to be sold, ... to the ... exchanged like ... Neither is a dogmatic statement and either are subject to change and judgment by either another pope or, if...
Scott Windsor
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... From: John Médaille Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:30 AM Cc: bigscott@... Subject: Re: Do Papal teachings change? ... Neither of these are dogmatic...
Scott Windsor
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Jun 6, 2003
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IN BRIEF 413 "God did not make death, and he does not delight in the death of the living. . . It was through the devil's envy that death entered the world" ...
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Hi All, Thank you for admitting at the onset that the church teaching on slavery has changed. You argue that it could change because it was not "dogmatic." But...
Lester Alberque
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No we can't and you are still wrong. Verga Please note: message attached Hi All, Thank you for admitting at the onset that the church teaching on slavery has...
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Hi Verga, I think Scott has already conceded that the moral teaching on slavery (the Church based this teaching on scripture and the natural law) did in fact...
Lester Alberque
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Jun 9, 2003
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First off, Les, you need to document that it is a "dogmatic" teaching and would therefore would be an "unchangeable" teaching. You have not provided that, so...
Scott Windsor
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Les Debating you reminds me of the saying: "Never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig seems to enjoy it." Verga Please note: message attached Hi...
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... The Catholic priesthood was not established by Jesus. It is a manufactured office of man, just like the church that manufactured it. It's dangerous people...
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... sw: And on what authority/research are we supposed to accept this pontifical statement from Brian? Brian offers NO proof, NO support, only HIS word - and...
Scott Windsor
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I don't mind getting a little dirty myself - and I do fancy bacon with my eggs in the morning, so it's worth it if you get the pig. Scott<<< ... Outgoing mail...
Scott Windsor
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Scott Then by all means go for it. I for one don't believe that Less has a sincere bone in his body and am convinced that he writes just becasue he loves the...
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Whoa Scott, Please review the messages. I asserted nothing but asked if papal teachings can change. It was you who introduced "dogmatic." Whether these were...
Lester Alberque
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Yes, Les - papal teachings THAT ARE NOT DOGMATIC can change. THAT is the essence of your dispute here. If it is not a DOGMATIC teaching, then it CAN CHANGE....
Scott Windsor
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Hi Scott, I'm afraid that you've missed the point again. I'm NOT arguing that nondogmatic teachings cannot change. I'm arguing that the Church's moral teaching...
Lester Alberque
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Hi all, Demands that a teaching be proven dogmatic or it can change overlook the fact that many if not most of our dogmatic teaching have never been defined,...
Lester Alberque
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... Yes, you are - because you cite nondogmatic teachings and then question why they have changed. Silwee Wabbit. ... No, you've argued how a specific...
Scott Windsor
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You still don't get it so I will save my breath. Verga Please note: message attached Hi all, Demands that a teaching be proven dogmatic or it can change...
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Hi Scott, It appears that you haven't read the the information I provided; Leander, Hardon, etc. Whatever the case, I pointed out that the Church's earlier...
Lester Alberque
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Hi Verga, Thank you for your well reasoned arguments and the references you provide. Always a pleasure, my friend. Les ... MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection...
Lester Alberque
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Thanks for the input, Verga. Les ... The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*...
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