This was "P's" first message to the ACTS group: A post to start things off, it is rather late where I am right now, so Id just like to see what the christian...
... now, ... here ... Check out: http://www.sd83.bc.ca/stu/9801/mrl3hp.html nuf said Tell me that this is "Not good". This time I will resist the urge to...
P. There is a problem with yur post. It is heavely biased, you need to look at things from several angles before you make a judgement. Especially one that...
"Labeling is what you do best!" Hay, Hold it right there for one moment, you said "American Catholic". This book was writen by a Catholic man, who is a...
P. Wrote ... Leave it at what? You posted mainly opinions and one review or someone who disagreed with the style and not the substance of the book. Your...
Patrick, What *exactly* do you seek? I will not deny that Native Americans were mistreated and taken advantage of, but let's face facts. 1) I, today, am not...
Quite simply, most of the main relegions of the world will eventually and quite simply fade away. Thus one must not forget where they came from, I guess you...
... to ... I think you're more of an agnostic than an atheist, and perhaps not even that. You acknowledge the "Great Spirit," which is a god, of sorts - so...
... to be sold, ... to the ... exchanged like ... Neither is a dogmatic statement and either are subject to change and judgment by either another pope or, if...
... From: John Médaille Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:30 AM Cc: bigscott@... Subject: Re: Do Papal teachings change? ... Neither of these are dogmatic...
IN BRIEF 413 "God did not make death, and he does not delight in the death of the living. . . It was through the devil's envy that death entered the world" ...
Scott Windsor
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Jun 8, 2003 4:11 pm
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Hi All, Thank you for admitting at the onset that the church teaching on slavery has changed. You argue that it could change because it was not "dogmatic." But...
No we can't and you are still wrong. Verga Please note: message attached Hi All, Thank you for admitting at the onset that the church teaching on slavery has...
Hi Verga, I think Scott has already conceded that the moral teaching on slavery (the Church based this teaching on scripture and the natural law) did in fact...
First off, Les, you need to document that it is a "dogmatic" teaching and would therefore would be an "unchangeable" teaching. You have not provided that, so...
Les Debating you reminds me of the saying: "Never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig seems to enjoy it." Verga Please note: message attached Hi...
... The Catholic priesthood was not established by Jesus. It is a manufactured office of man, just like the church that manufactured it. It's dangerous people...
Scott Windsor
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Jun 10, 2003 12:17 am
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... sw: And on what authority/research are we supposed to accept this pontifical statement from Brian? Brian offers NO proof, NO support, only HIS word - and...
I don't mind getting a little dirty myself - and I do fancy bacon with my eggs in the morning, so it's worth it if you get the pig. Scott<<< ... Outgoing mail...
Scott Then by all means go for it. I for one don't believe that Less has a sincere bone in his body and am convinced that he writes just becasue he loves the...
Whoa Scott, Please review the messages. I asserted nothing but asked if papal teachings can change. It was you who introduced "dogmatic." Whether these were...
Yes, Les - papal teachings THAT ARE NOT DOGMATIC can change. THAT is the essence of your dispute here. If it is not a DOGMATIC teaching, then it CAN CHANGE....
Hi Scott, I'm afraid that you've missed the point again. I'm NOT arguing that nondogmatic teachings cannot change. I'm arguing that the Church's moral teaching...
Hi all, Demands that a teaching be proven dogmatic or it can change overlook the fact that many if not most of our dogmatic teaching have never been defined,...
... Yes, you are - because you cite nondogmatic teachings and then question why they have changed. Silwee Wabbit. ... No, you've argued how a specific...
You still don't get it so I will save my breath. Verga Please note: message attached Hi all, Demands that a teaching be proven dogmatic or it can change...
Hi Scott, It appears that you haven't read the the information I provided; Leander, Hardon, etc. Whatever the case, I pointed out that the Church's earlier...
Hi Verga, Thank you for your well reasoned arguments and the references you provide. Always a pleasure, my friend. Les ... MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection...