Personally, I feel that for the purposes of this list, so long as the Starbucks is car free, it is fine. That is not to say that is OK in the grand scheme of ...
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Simon Baddeley
s.j.baddeley@...
Jun 27, 2005 7:03 am
Notwithstanding I wouldn't want my points interpreted as "roll-over" and accept. There's a responsibility to critique the process we too easily refer to as...
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J.H. Crawford
carfreecrawford
Jun 27, 2005 11:17 am
... In most of the world, multistory apartments less than five or so stories high do not have elevators. I live in a fairly new building near Lisbon that is...
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J.H. Crawford
carfreecrawford
Jun 27, 2005 12:08 pm
... This is largely a question of cost--most societies are not rich enough to afford lifts. The number of people confined to wheelchairs is fairly small. I ...
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J.H. Crawford
carfreecrawford
Jun 27, 2005 1:53 pm
... I think this is more important than that. I see some of these businesses as a part of the local hearth for community. Mega chains do not have the health of...
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Todd J. Binkley
tjbink1
Jun 28, 2005 5:06 am
... When was this building built? (just out of curiosity) ... And what century were they built in? ;^] ... $60,000 to $80,000 US installed, in California,...
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Thomas C
tcrulli
Jun 28, 2005 12:02 pm
elevators are the necessary complement to the car for a spatially segregated society. before them (at least in france), the number of steps to your appartement...
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J.H. Crawford
carfreecrawford
Jun 28, 2005 3:57 pm
... About 1993 ... About 1993 ... In urban environments, landscaping costs can be quite small. $60,000 is a LOT of money in most of the world. ... Yes, but...
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Karen Sandness
kitka97205
Jun 28, 2005 7:36 pm
Pardon my ignorance, but are elevators necessarily electric? What about the "squirrel cages" I've seen in late nineteenth century buildings? In transit, Karen...
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Thomas C
tcrulli
Jun 28, 2005 7:51 pm
well, you do need some energy to lift the weight... you could also use petrol or have some slaves in the basement on bikes... the "squirrel cages" you talk...
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Todd Edelman
traintowardsthefuture...
Jun 28, 2005 8:07 pm
... TODD: The original motive power for the furnicular train up the steep side of Petrin hill in Prague was a counterweight of water... just for fun we could...
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Richard Risemberg
rickrise
Jun 28, 2005 8:34 pm
... Many of the old elevators were hydraulic--slow but relatively safe. The motive power was probably electricity in any case, and hydraulic elevators don't...
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dubluth
Jun 29, 2005 3:56 am
Only 208 people have signed so far. Visiors as well as residents and workers may sign. I'm a potential visitor....
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adolfo restrepo
integritiy
Jun 29, 2005 4:35 am
Have you contacted NYC bike community, what's in it for them. ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail...
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manfredstrobl
Jun 29, 2005 5:52 am
hi everyone, i do not like cars but i need to own one because i live in calgary, the north american oil town. calgary is not bad for biking, at least for six...
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J.H. Crawford
carfreecrawford
Jun 29, 2005 11:43 am
... Most elevators are remarkably efficient. The weight of the car is balanced by a counterweight, so all that needs to be overcome is a little friction plus...
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Todd Edelman
traintowardsthefuture...
Jun 29, 2005 12:10 pm
... Todd: Hey, couldnt elevator "kits" be mass produced just like the whatchamacallit street cars from the 1910s through 40s, with the obvious EOS (economy of ...
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Richard Risemberg
rickrise
Jun 29, 2005 2:27 pm
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Todd Edelman
traintowardsthefuture...
Jun 29, 2005 3:26 pm
Hi, The other day Joel said something like "curbs will be unnecessary in a carfree city" This makes me wonder: 1 - What are curbs for? (Aid in drainage, place...
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Karen Sandness
kitka97205
Jun 29, 2005 8:34 pm
... Well, he's just one person, but Oregon Congressman Earl Blumenauer comes to mind. Among other things, he rides his bicycle everywhere and lobbied to get...
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mgagnonlv
Jun 30, 2005 3:11 am
... At first, a historical remnant. Streets were made with the natural soil, so they were dirty, messy, etc. That's why some enterprising fellows built wooden...
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Todd J. Binkley
tjbink1
Jun 30, 2005 5:24 am
... The first curbs came in with the first sidewalks---in ancient Rome. Photo: http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/nigelhomer/2003/pompeii.jpg From Spiro...
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Richard Risemberg
rickrise
Jun 30, 2005 5:39 am
Even in a carfree city, there will be faster and slower traffic-- bicycles can easily move at 25mph, which is quite dangerous for pedestrians, and while...
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Dan Korn
airzound
Jun 30, 2005 6:34 am
There's an interesting article about a new curb planned as a traffic-calming device in today's Chicago Tribune. I like the headline: "Behold the great curb of...
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Lloyd Wright
lfwright_itdp
Jun 30, 2005 6:45 am
The debate on whether to separate different modes (pedestrians, bicyclists, skateboarders, etc.) by curbing or other means is quite topical these days. The...
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J.H. Crawford
carfreecrawford
Jun 30, 2005 1:53 pm
On the whole curbs thing: Curbs are a huge impediment not only to people with mobility limitations but also to anyone trying to use any kind of cart to move...
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Karen Sandness
kitka97205
Jun 30, 2005 9:43 pm
... Really? Having to jump out of the way of people on bikes with their ding-ding bells is one of the annoyances of walking around in Tokyo. Riding on...
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Todd Edelman
traintowardsthefuture...
Jun 30, 2005 10:08 pm
... TODD: It IS anti-social. Riding a bike does not automatically make anyone an angel. Of course if they have been pushed from the steet onto what was...
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Doug Salzmann
c1ttad1no
Jun 30, 2005 10:32 pm
I don't think there is much question: Bikes and peds make an inherently unsatisfactory combination. Ordinary bicycles cannot be safely and conveniently...
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Andrew Dawson
m82a1_dawson@...
Jul 1, 2005 1:15 am
Hi Manfred, I was in Calgary in March. One thing that city could use is commuter trains plus a return of intercity(Via Rail) passenger trains. Especially...
