Hello everyone, In response to several posts, I'll contribute what I can answer: Some of the cars on the Milwaukee's car deck are still in place on the rails,...
Art, has the crew of any carferry opened the sea gate and let the cars go, when they got into trouble? Obviously, if one knew that the hatch covers were not...
The AA crews liked the AKA because it retained its boilers for heat and to power the winches. The AKA was a much warmer boat for the crew in the winter than...
Hi Brad, The thought has come across the minds of some, given that this situation occured to the Pere Marquette 18, albeit in 8-foot seas. I agree with you...
Hi Brad, Thanks for that nugget. I've always been under the impression that the AKA was less satisfactory because she retained two of her four boilers on top...
Hello all: As far as the railroad cars breaking loose, another factor to consider is the weight of the railroad cars lost overboard. With twenty five loaded...
Hi Art and Brad, If your open for a little more spectulation, if those are indeed frieghtcars from the Milwaukee, I would hesitate as first-mate to open an...
Hi Dan, Yes, your theory is very plausiblel. The cars may have been pushed off or rolled off the car deck just as well. There is a cable from the mooring...
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When the crew loaded the freight cars in Milwaukee, the crew knew that they were heading out into a bad storm. I would have thought that they would have ...
<With the seas unhindered, the ship filled rapidly, giving the crew little time to man the lifeboats.> In theory, the car deck could be awash, with the sea...
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I'm still wondering how the boilers covers/caps all ended up lined up on the deck.................... More and more, I think it had to of happen after the...
Brad, The low pressure that sat over their area indicated a weather pattern that seemed to quiet down a bit, but as the ship left port, the low pressure center...
Hi Brad, The cars may have been prepared to be jettisoned, but the storm might also have been so severe that the cars may have broken free. The only chain that...
Because the ferries once open sterns were fitted with sea gates, I believe this gave the crew a sense of security that didn't exist if the gates were breached....
Hi, After seeing firsthand what can happen to the jacks and chains in normal rough weather, and having read accounts of storms like the one that the Ann Arbor...
Are there more than one boiler with the cap removed? Dan ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has...
If you are talking about the inspection covers, where a man can climb into the boiler, they would not be removed in an emergency situation. That boiler had to...
Art, Did the Milwaukee leave a trail of railcars as it headed SW bound back to Milwaukee? Another words, are all the railcars accounted for inside or under the...
Just the two boilers in the forward firehold. This is why I believe that they were down in reserve status, especially with such a small amount of coal left in...
It's possible that the boilers didn't explode because the fires were out. There was nothing protecting the coal bunkers but grates that would easily let the...
Interesting point, Dan. There have been many documented instances of fires being put in the firehold after water poured through the grates on the Great Lakes...
You would not have the engines running when you are trying to launch lifeboats. It would make things very difficult. Has Homer given his opinion on all of...
i have been readingall the e-mail.with water high enough to put out the fires the steam ptessure would rapidly drop. so no steam for any use. there would be no...
Hi Everyone, My goodness, what a lively and interesting discussion this has turned into! I spent four years in the navy as a boilerman. After enduring...
Hello Homer and Jim, Thank you for your insight into the boiler room procedures. This really adds a new element to the discussion. Regards, Art ... pumps ... ...
Hi Homer, I'd like to ask if in your opinion that if indeed the Milwaukee was operating with only two boilers would that have adversely effected her chances of...
Is there any information or speculation as to why the crew of the SS Milwaukee decided to turn around and run before the seas instead of keeping her bow into...
The AA-4 was running into the storm when the decision was made to turn around. When it finally made the turn the waves were coming in an open stern. The ship ...