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Re: SUV flyer

"The SUV Mantra" - Interesting point of view in Jim Kunstler's (author
of "The Geography of Nowhere") latest commentary at http://kunstler.com

Kunstler is of the opinion that suburban car-dependant society is on
the verge of collapsing and therefore any move to greater fuel
efficiency is just going to prolong the pain..


--- In car-free@y..., "zveRina" <rob@z...> wrote:
> i've been (mentally) working on a windshield flyer for SUVs,
something not as oblique as the SUV ticket, nor merely mocking and
> shaming, but which enumerates hidden costs of SUV usage and
encourages people to reduce by providing specific info on alternatives.
> anyone have suggestions for language/design of such a flyer? when
completed, i can post as .pdf at website.
>
> robZ
> http://thinksmall.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bill carr" <dubluth@y...>
> To: <car-free@y...>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [car-free] Irony
>
>
> > That was a lovely letter to our allies at WWJDrive.
> >
> > I don't have high hopes that current SuV owners will
> > ever be willing to recognize the stigma of SUV driving
> > and ownership. The H2 driver who doesn't recognize a
> > grimace demonstrates her delusions by saying "it makes
> > people smile."
> >
> > This may be pessimistic, but I am choose to temper my
> > expectations of what is likely to happen without
> > intervention. Still, there may be a lot that can be
> > accomplished through public education.
> >
> > Bill Carr
> >
> >
> > --- "John O. Andersen"
> > <editor@u...> wrote:
> > > Yes, I think the embarrassment stage is coming
> > > sooner than later.
> > >
> > > John Andersen
> > > Unconventional Ideas at
> > > http://www.unconventionalideas.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ruth Oskolkoff
> > > To: CarFree@y... ;
> > > car-free@y...
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 4:45 PM
> > > Subject: [car-free] Irony
> > >
> > >
> > > What is funny, and kind of ironic, is that years ago
> > > the SUV's were being
> > > purchased as a sign of status and prestige. Within
> > > a short time, it may be
> > > a huge embarrassment to own one. The owners are
> > > already showing signs of
> > > being on the defence. The status many thought was
> > > easily purchasable will
> > > turn out to be a little more elusive after all.
> > >
> > >
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Wed Nov 27, 2002 4:35 am

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i've been (mentally) working on a windshield flyer for SUVs, something not as oblique as the SUV ticket, nor merely mocking and shaming, but which enumerates...
zveRina
shutterbuggery Offline Send Email
Nov 25, 2002
8:29 pm

This http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/pubs/affair.html is a little old, but was produced in pamphlet form, and available in pdf at one time. I’ll try to find...
Mark Watson
carfree_seattle Offline Send Email
Nov 25, 2002
11:40 pm

The bta flyer is very good, but I have doubted its effectiveness for our intended audience. Without further information, the financial motive alone won't get...
bill carr
dubluth Offline Send Email
Nov 29, 2002
5:30 am

For safty related ideas check out Keith Bradsher's book called: "HIGH and MIGHTY - SUVs:The World's Most Dangerous Vehicles and How They Got That Way" ...
microsnout Offline Send Email Nov 29, 2002
6:06 pm

Thanks to microsnout for bringing this book to my attention. It not only contains safety ideas, but provides historical background and an explanation of...
dubluth <dubluth@...>
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Dec 17, 2002
6:55 pm

hi folks. sarah and i are boarding a train for minneapolis today. over the next couple of weeks, i hope to have time to update the site with info such as that...
zveRina
shutterbuggery Offline Send Email
Dec 18, 2002
5:07 pm

thanks. for the time being, i added a link at http://www.thinksmall.org/car-free/html/modules.php?name=Web_Links ... From: "Mark Watson"...
zveRina
shutterbuggery Offline Send Email
Nov 27, 2002
12:21 am

What is your phone number? I have the wrong one I think....
angelina tolentino
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Nov 27, 2002
5:03 am

Sorry to ask the list...I thought I was just asking Rob and Sarah....
angelina tolentino
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Dec 1, 2002
5:39 am

"The SUV Mantra" - Interesting point of view in Jim Kunstler's (author of "The Geography of Nowhere") latest commentary at http://kunstler.com Kunstler is of...
microsnout Offline Send Email Nov 27, 2002
4:36 am

i wonder what this collapse will look like. maybe it is already collapsing? if it doesn't collapse overnight, the less people pollute, the better. SUVs are an...
zveRina
shutterbuggery Offline Send Email
Nov 27, 2002
6:43 pm

I agree, better to work with what we have right now. For example, Bush is now justifying logging in our forests because in the long run, he says steps of...
Ruth Oskolkoff
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Nov 27, 2002
7:21 pm

Hi robZ The "SUV Mantra" stuff is his Nov 22nd entry at: http://kunstler.com/mags_diary5.html Kunstler's thoughts on this "collapse" are sumarized here: ...
microsnout Offline Send Email Nov 27, 2002
10:11 pm

From a post on the national car-free site. ... http://globeandmail.workopolis.com/servlet/Content/fasttrack/20021127/CAVANC ?section=HomePage...
Ruth Oskolkoff
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Nov 27, 2002
10:46 pm
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