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CADPAT & MARPAT Development (Part 4)

Having exhausted my information regarding the
development and relative effectiveness of the Temperate
CADPAT, I will shift gears and address the issue of
CADPAT versus MARPAT development. There has been some
discussion on this forum regarding which came first, and
whether one pattern is an off-shoot of the other. The
last message I read on this site suggested that the
two patterns were developed concurrently, but
independently. I now have 100% confirmation through the CADPAT
Project Manager that this suggestion is incorrect. The
truth of the matter is that MARPAT is indeed a direct
derivative of CADPAT. The USMC apparently expressed
considerable interest throughout the latter stages of CADPAT
development. This interest peaked when scientific findings
regarding the pattern’s efficacy indicated its superiority
over every other temperate pattern currently fielded.
The USMC was looking for a “distinctive” Corps
uniform, and the CADPAT fit the bill perfectly. At the
USMC’s request, the Canadian government “shared” CADPAT
with the Corps under a bilateral military “Exchange
Agreement”. Minor tweaking of the pattern (colours and
shapes) apparently allowed the USMC to avoid paying the
licensing fees associated with any use of the copy-righted
Canadian pattern. This was done with full Canadian
concurrence. It is difficult to say just how similar the two
patterns are without having an example of the MARPAT to
compare against my issued CADPAT, however I am led to
believe that they are virtually identical. Once again,
this information is not conjecture on my part. These
are the facts of the CADPAT versus MARPAT debate, as
explained to me by our national Project Manager.
<br><br>Well, that about wraps it up. Again, I apologize for
the lengthy message, but I hope that those who “stuck
with it”, found my contribution useful. The bottom
line is that anyone interested in the subject of
CADPAT/MARPAT development and comparative effectiveness, now
has access to just about all of the non-classified
information currently available regarding those uniforms.
Better yet, the information that I provided in these
posts came direct from the writings and mouths of those
responsible for the CADPAT project - it is "as good as it
gets". <br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Mark




Mon Jan 21, 2002 2:10 am

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The first general-issue CADPAT item to be issued to the Canadian Army was the cover for the new Kevlar helmet. This item was received by the field force in...
canuck_infantry Offline Send Email Jan 21, 2002
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Having exhausted my information regarding the development and relative effectiveness of the Temperate CADPAT, I will shift gears and address the issue of ...
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Just downloaded some great pic's of the coverall, email me if you would like them there are 3...
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Hey, I'd be interested in this. Regards, Jason ... . Typical SAS style with the addition of a velcro closed pocket on each sleeve. Heavy material. Exc to...
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Hi all,<br> well as the title implies I am looking for a website or a seller that will sell me a set of German BDUs in Tropentarn. this is the desert version...
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Am awaiting clearance of desert flectarn field gear through customs presently; will have a good size selection of desert flec uniforms a bit later....
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Can't be much help in locating the desert flecktarn field gear for you, but I certainly would be interested in seeing any photographs of German soldiers using...
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There is a fellow in england who now has a contract from the proper people to re-create the Tropotarn at decent price. It is exactly the same, to the ...
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Have posted a pic of some Desert Flectarn gear with the uniform for those that have not seen it....
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LOL, thanks to everyone who responded.<br>I did not quite expect the response to be this quick.<br>Wow.<br><br>I added an album and I think the pictures are...
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Thanks for the pictures. Looks like nice gear. I'd still like to see some photos of German troops using the stuff. The photo of the guy with the MP5SD looks a...
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Nice to see this clubs picked up a life of its own!! Great to see some excellent postings of late, particularly those pertaining to Canadian Camouflage - love ...
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Have a pair of German Tropentarn (desert flectarn)<br>trousers available in a waist size equivalent to a<br>US 40", new never used. Anyone interested?...
davwolf Offline Send Email Feb 1, 2002
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Im sure that if any one knows it would be you guys...I need a copy of the care and use of individual equipment...where can i find it...it is a us army field...
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dytter01 Offline Send Email Feb 11, 2002
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Hi:<br><br>I'm the FNG to the club. I collect a variety of camo, helmets and field equipment. Lately I've been concentrating on modern USMC. I have a...
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