Test posting while unsubscribed

I should not get this message

Jeremy

10.15 am  GMT


In message <mbug1usflv3l54jnsmapgq65ftg0vre154@...>, Derek Stanley
<derek@...> writes
>On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:53:47 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>hello guinea pigs,
>>
>>I'd like to check that unsubscribing and subscribing works properly and to
>>receive any comments people might have about the process.
>>
>>Please could you each test it by unsubscribing and then subscribing again?
>>
>>Many thanks
>>
>>Robert
>>
>I have done both successfully. The confirmation messages were returned
>within seconds.
>
>Derek Stanley
>
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:54:13 +0000, you wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:53:47 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>hello guinea pigs,
>>
>>I'd like to check that unsubscribing and subscribing works properly and to
>>receive any comments people might have about the process.
>>
>>Please could you each test it by unsubscribing and then subscribing again?
>>
>>Many thanks
>>
>>Robert
>>
>I have done both successfully. The confirmation messages were returned
>within seconds.
>
>Derek Stanley
>
And can confirm that I can post again.

It's fast.

Derek Stanley

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:53:47 +0000, you wrote:

>
>
>hello guinea pigs,
>
>I'd like to check that unsubscribing and subscribing works properly and to
>receive any comments people might have about the process.
>
>Please could you each test it by unsubscribing and then subscribing again?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Robert
>
I have done both successfully. The confirmation messages were returned
within seconds.

Derek Stanley

hello guinea pigs,

I'd like to check that unsubscribing and subscribing works properly and to
receive any comments people might have about the process.

Please could you each test it by unsubscribing and then subscribing again?

Many thanks

Robert



___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

At  12/12/2001 12:47 Wednesday, you wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:25:39 +0000, Robert wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >I'm currently tied up to a bridge in Salhus fjord near Bergen.
>
>Do you mean you've sailed across the North Sea in St Kilda or have you
>been mugged?  If the latter, don't worry. I'll call the local police
>and they'll soon have you free  :-)


Very good!   It's an amazing bridge.  It looks as if it stands on concrete
piles but the water is 500m deep and in fact the islands are floating!   I
hope we don't pull the road away!


> >  It's cold and wet and dark most of the time.
> >
>Just like Cambridge then?
>
>Yep but very muxh more mountainous.


   _____________________________________________________________________

Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:25:39 +0000, Robert wrote:

>
>
>I'm currently tied up to a bridge in Salhus fjord near Bergen.

Do you mean you've sailed across the North Sea in St Kilda or have you
been mugged?  If the latter, don't worry. I'll call the local police
and they'll soon have you free  :-)

>  It's cold and wet and dark most of the time.
>
Just like Cambridge then?


Derek Stanley

I'm currently tied up to a bridge in Salhus fjord near Bergen.  It's cold
and wet and dark most of the time.

Just a test message .....

R




___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:39:20 +0000, Robert wrote:

>At  10/12/2001 17:27 Monday, you wrote:
>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:44:38 +0000, Robert wrote:
>>
>> >Test of line wrapping.
>> >
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >
>> >
>> >Robert
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>> >
>> >_________________________________________________________________
>>
>>It looks fine this end but if you're in Bergen presumably you are not
>>using your usual office machine? Or do you use your lap top for
>>private email wherever you may be?
>>
>>Derek Stanley
>
>
>yep I use my Schlum laptop everywhere :-)  the otehr one is my old schlum
>laptop which they haven't claimed back yet (they will though)
>
Oh well. That's one theory out the window. On the other hand it looks
like you must have fixed whatever the problem was.

Derek Stanley

At  10/12/2001 17:27 Monday, you wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:44:38 +0000, Robert wrote:
>
> >Test of line wrapping.
> >
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
>
>It looks fine this end but if you're in Bergen presumably you are not
>using your usual office machine? Or do you use your lap top for
>private email wherever you may be?
>
>Derek Stanley


yep I use my Schlum laptop everywhere :-)  the otehr one is my old schlum
laptop which they haven't claimed back yet (they will though)


R


___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:44:38 +0000, Robert wrote:

>Test of line wrapping.
>
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>
>
>Robert
>
>
>
>__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
>
>_________________________________________________________________

It looks fine this end but if you're in Bergen presumably you are not
using your usual office machine? Or do you use your lap top for
private email wherever you may be?

Derek Stanley

Test of line wrapping.

__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment
__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment


Robert



__________this is a very long line.  I am in bergen at the moment

_________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

Robert

Yes, I can read the members list.




However, there were only five

You (twice)

Me as jeremy@yours

Philip Howarth
and one other (bother, I've lost it now, was it a 'Derek'?)

Jeremy Nunns


In message <5.1.0.14.2.20011206132704.020d12a0@...
m>, Robert Laws <robertmlaws@...> writes
>
>
>Hello guineapigs,  I wonder if you could attempt to read our email addresses
off
>the WWW page for me.  Because I am the group owner, the system always presents
>me with a list of members (I have a "members" link among the options on the
left
>between "pools" and "calendar".  My understanding is that visitors to the site
>cannot see this.  I'd like to know if ordinary members can see it.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/camboaters/
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert
>
>BTW, I am away all of next week so there will be a lull in activity.
>
>
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
>work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL
>
>
>
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>
>
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>

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Technical Director
WorldWideCards, a division of Cybercard  -  real cards for real people
http://www.WorldWideCards.co.uk   and   http://www.cybercard.co.uk

I think I've answered my own question.   When you join a yahoo group you
can list the email addresses of other members, but they are all truncated
to prevent spammers getting access.  Only the moderatros can see the names
in full.

R

___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

Hello guineapigs,  I wonder if you could attempt to read our email addresses off
the WWW page for me.  Because I am the group owner, the system always presents
me with a list of members (I have a "members" link among the options on the left
between "pools" and "calendar".  My understanding is that visitors to the site
cannot see this.  I'd like to know if ordinary members can see it.

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/camboaters/

Thanks

Robert

BTW, I am away all of next week so there will be a lull in activity.



___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

At  06/12/2001 09:25 Thursday, you wrote:
>On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:07:14 +0000, Philip wrote:
>
>>
>>Plain text - not all mail clients can view HTML - and the messages end up
>>bigger which folk connected via cell phones wont appreciate. And yes, one
>>can put nasties in javascript, java, active-X and etc which can be buried
>>in an HTML message.
>>
>Yes. Plain text is best.
>
>Robert, I don't know if you have been using a different PC recently or
>whether you have altered your email settings but for the past few
>weeks your messages have been stretching right across the screen in my
>email client (Agent) I believe the recommended line length is
>something like 70 characters.
>

I have (I thought) always sent unbroken lines allowing the receiving program to
do the wrapping.   I'll send this one direct as well as via the list to see if
there is any diffrerence.

R



>
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>Please do not republish discussions off-list without permission.
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

At  06/12/2001 09:07 Thursday, you wrote:

>Plain text - not all mail clients can view HTML - and the messages end up
>bigger which folk connected via cell phones wont appreciate. And yes, one
>can put nasties in javascript, java, active-X and etc which can be buried
>in an HTML message.
>
>     Philip


OK

>

___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:07:14 +0000, Philip wrote:

>
>Plain text - not all mail clients can view HTML - and the messages end up
>bigger which folk connected via cell phones wont appreciate. And yes, one
>can put nasties in javascript, java, active-X and etc which can be buried
>in an HTML message.
>
Yes. Plain text is best.

Robert, I don't know if you have been using a different PC recently or
whether you have altered your email settings but for the past few
weeks your messages have been stretching right across the screen in my
email client (Agent) I believe the recommended line length is
something like 70 characters.

Derek Stanley

At  05/12/2001 22:01 Wednesday, you wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:08:30 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>
>>I ramble to myself......
>>
>>The ukwaterways server shuts down at the end of January.  I'd like to do the
switch before then so I can use the old server to point new subscribers to the
new one.
>>
>>I can convert the ukwaterways server to be 'announcement only' so once people
have migrated to the new server they cannot post to the old one.   I can also
probably set the 'rejected posting' message so it sends a reminder of the new
posting address.
>>
>>There are several ways to migrate:
>>
>>1) move everyone without requiring a confirmation email
>>2) move everyone but require a confirmation email
>>3) give instructions and ask people to enrole themselves
>>
>>it depends on whether I want to keep all 133 members or to use this as a
chance to weed the list down.
>>
>Option 2 seems the safest bet as long as it works. Those subscribers
>who are not really that interested may take the oppotunity to drop out
>but you will be left with a solid base of users.
>

Yes that's probably the best.

R


___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

Plain text - not all mail clients can view HTML - and the messages end up
bigger which folk connected via cell phones wont appreciate. And yes, one
can put nasties in javascript, java, active-X and etc which can be buried
in an HTML message.

      Philip

At  05/12/2001 21:44 Wednesday, you wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:48:02 -0000, you wrote:
>
>>
>>i am posting this from the WWW interface to see if it works.
>>
>>At present people seem to get a default of HTML messages which I would
>>like to turn off.  Not sure how yet.
>>
>>I have subscribed bye email, by the button on my webpage and by the
>>WWW interface.  THey all seem to work.
>>
>Using Agent for email, I appear to be getting plain text. If a post
>contains HTML, it usually shows as an attachment icon. I am not
>getting that at the moment.
>

What's the best thing to select html or plain?  I thought html was frowned on as
being easier to hide viruses in?

R




___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

At  05/12/2001 21:50 Wednesday, you wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:50:20 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>At  05/12/2001 13:48 Wednesday, you wrote:
>>
>>>i am posting this from the WWW interface to see if it works.
>>>
>>>At present people seem to get a default of HTML messages which I would
>>>like to turn off.  Not sure how yet.
>>>
>>>I have subscribed bye email, by the button on my webpage and by the
>>>WWW interface.  THey all seem to work.
>>>
>>>R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>THis is a reply to the previous post.  It should go to everyone (do I want it
like this?).
>>
>>It's going to be hell's delight to get people to cut off all the footers :-(
>>
>Unfortunately, advertising is necessary if you want a "free" service.
>
>Perhaps you should give some guidance in your footer as to how, when
>replying, to drag the cursor over un-needed parts of the original
>message and hit the delete button?
>
>

I wonder if it would do any good!   There is a size limit of 10k for yahoogroups
postings which is actually about what wee want.


___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:08:30 +0000, you wrote:

>
>I ramble to myself......
>
>The ukwaterways server shuts down at the end of January.  I'd like to do the
switch before then so I can use the old server to point new subscribers to the
new one.
>
>I can convert the ukwaterways server to be 'announcement only' so once people
have migrated to the new server they cannot post to the old one.   I can also
probably set the 'rejected posting' message so it sends a reminder of the new
posting address.
>
>There are several ways to migrate:
>
>1) move everyone without requiring a confirmation email
>2) move everyone but require a confirmation email
>3) give instructions and ask people to enrole themselves
>
>it depends on whether I want to keep all 133 members or to use this as a chance
to weed the list down.
>
Option 2 seems the safest bet as long as it works. Those subscribers
who are not really that interested may take the oppotunity to drop out
but you will be left with a solid base of users.

Derek Stanley

On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:50:20 +0000, you wrote:

>At  05/12/2001 13:48 Wednesday, you wrote:
>
>>i am posting this from the WWW interface to see if it works.
>>
>>At present people seem to get a default of HTML messages which I would
>>like to turn off.  Not sure how yet.
>>
>>I have subscribed bye email, by the button on my webpage and by the
>>WWW interface.  THey all seem to work.
>>
>>R
>>
>>
>>
>
>THis is a reply to the previous post.  It should go to everyone (do I want it
like this?).
>
>It's going to be hell's delight to get people to cut off all the footers :-(
>
Unfortunately, advertising is necessary if you want a "free" service.

Perhaps you should give some guidance in your footer as to how, when
replying, to drag the cursor over un-needed parts of the original
message and hit the delete button?

Regards

Derek Stanley

On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:48:02 -0000, you wrote:

>
>i am posting this from the WWW interface to see if it works.
>
>At present people seem to get a default of HTML messages which I would
>like to turn off.  Not sure how yet.
>
>I have subscribed bye email, by the button on my webpage and by the
>WWW interface.  THey all seem to work.
>
Using Agent for email, I appear to be getting plain text. If a post
contains HTML, it usually shows as an attachment icon. I am not
getting that at the moment.

Derek Stanley

I ramble to myself......

The ukwaterways server shuts down at the end of January.  I'd like to do the
switch before then so I can use the old server to point new subscribers to the
new one.

I can convert the ukwaterways server to be 'announcement only' so once people
have migrated to the new server they cannot post to the old one.   I can also
probably set the 'rejected posting' message so it sends a reminder of the new
posting address.

There are several ways to migrate:

1) move everyone without requiring a confirmation email
2) move everyone but require a confirmation email
3) give instructions and ask people to enrole themselves

it depends on whether I want to keep all 133 members or to use this as a chance
to weed the list down.

R

___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

At  05/12/2001 13:48 Wednesday, you wrote:

>i am posting this from the WWW interface to see if it works.
>
>At present people seem to get a default of HTML messages which I would
>like to turn off.  Not sure how yet.
>
>I have subscribed bye email, by the button on my webpage and by the
>WWW interface.  THey all seem to work.
>
>R
>
>
>

THis is a reply to the previous post.  It should go to everyone (do I want it
like this?).

It's going to be hell's delight to get people to cut off all the footers :-(

R




___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL

i am posting this from the WWW interface to see if it works.

At present people seem to get a default of HTML messages which I would
like to turn off.  Not sure how yet.

I have subscribed bye email, by the button on my webpage and by the
WWW interface.  THey all seem to work.

R

I appear to have subscribed to the list via email successfully but as
I suspected, none of the web page facilities have working links for
me.

On the right of the web page, I am told that I am not recognised as a
member of the group and am instructed to link my email address to a
Yahoo ID.

I managed to get Yahoo to generate a new password earlier as my normal
one wouldn't work but as yet the new one doesn't either. When it does,
I'll add it to "My Groups" and see what difference that makes.

Derek Stanley

cc'd to Robert Laws for his info.

Hi Robert,  Well, I could never resist being a technology Guinea pig..

I joined via the web. It was easy but the terse demand for an authorisation
code fooled me for a minute or two - it wsn't very obvious that it would be
emailed. However it was - very quickly, I pasted the result into the web
page -  address for which was emailed at the same time.  I then just
clicked on Join and I was in.  The process is mildly tortuous but is easy
enough to follow step by step.

It may have been made either easier or more difficult - I can't tell - by
my having a Yahoo ID alaready ('cos I subscribe to a couple of Clubs - note
that Yahoo Clubs are being merged with Yahoo Groups soon, just to further
confuse things.)

I could try joining by email using an alter ego, if that would help.

      Philip





                     Robert Laws
                     <robertmlaws@        To:     camboaters@yahoogroups.com
                     yahoo.com>           cc:
                                          Subject:     [CAMBOATERS] Phillip
Howarth just joined
                     01/12/04
                     11:42
                     Please
                     respond to
                     camboaters








I just had an email telling me that Phillip Howarth has joined this test
group.  Philip, could you let me know how you joined (by email or from the
WWW)  did it go smoothly?

I'm having trouble getting the email subscription to work.

thanks

Robert




___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL



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I just had an email telling me that Phillip Howarth has joined this test group. 
Philip, could you let me know how you joined (by email or from the WWW)  did it
go smoothly?

I'm having trouble getting the email subscription to work.

thanks

Robert




___________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Robert Laws (Dept: seismics)    Tel: 01223 325378  Fax: 01223 361473
work:  Schlumberger, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge, GB - CB3 0EL