Hello everyone, A brief update on the 2008 4-H Record Book process: The 4-H Record Book has undergone minor revisions for the 2007-2008 program year. A list...
Steven, I have to say that although I like and support the new changes to the record book, it is unfair to spring the presentations requirement on the kids...
I am so disappointed! The survey comments about PDR 5 (community service & citizenship) seem so very much supportive of giving more credit for deep-not-broad...
Hello Lori, and all, If a county wanted to finish out the 2007-2008 4-H program year with the 2006 forms, that would be perfectly acceptable. The County 4-H...
Steven, Thank you. I will bring it up to our county committee. Unfortunately our county Presentation Day is next weekend and it's too late for youth to...
I third this. I have many families in our club who have opted out of presentation day due to previous changes made to the record book, and with presentation...
Hello Dan, and all, The State 4-H Incentives and Recognition Committee reviewed and discussed the major themes from the 4-H Record Book survey (all 50 pages)....
Well, speaking for myself, I gave up trying to follow along with all the changes. I am grateful for everyone's hard work toward improving the Record Book...
I want to thank the valuable work that was done by the State I & R Committee in bringing together many hours of comments and suggestions to the 4H record books...
I sympathize. One possibility is is to have a county meeting with all the points of contention listed, and vote on a consensus opinion to govern the county....
I think that you all are over-obsessing on this! I think that it's great that presentations are once again required for a star rank. The kids should have been...
Hi, just a quick clarification, cultural arts does count as a presentation? Jenean ... great that presentations are once again required for a star rank. The ...
I agree that the community service portion should be counted in hours, not events. But since that is not (and hasn't been) the case, about 4 years ago our...
The club we're in has had a Community Service Officer for the last 5-6 years. There is an activity arranged usually for each month. One of our club leaders...
Yes it does...theNew State PDR instructions says "All 4-H presentation types outlined in the State 4-H Presentation Manual are accepted" Karen ... From:...
After my experience with two of the clubs in our county, I oppose any "comm. service" credit that is earned by donating something. We eliminated that loophole...
Just a few provocative questions here... Should we as a country, ask all those who have donated money or something personal to a national charity or to an...
Russ...you are so right! We had our plant science project plan flowers at our local library..the club purchased the flowers..but a small group of kids did the...
On the instructions of the PDR under communication you have "4-H Presentations" which are required for a star and "Prepared Talks" which count but are not...
For us..a prepared talk is usually when a member will give a report on the progress of their project group. In our county, we also have allowed a one time...
For older kids, will they need to go back and sort out which types of talks they did each year so as to be sure they meet the mandatory minimum # of...
I wouldn't think so....the "mandatory" presentations would have been in a category of their own....wasn't it category "R"? they would just need to see the...
Laurel, I would think they would just have to go back to last year's book to figure out the number of presentations they did last year and add that number to...
Thanks. Another question. I know this seems pretty obscure, but....If your child was told by a leader that missing a meeting was an "excused absence" - when...
When I was a community club leader we would just deduct the "excused absence" from the total number of meetings that they had to attend. Example, in a club...
Being new to 4-H, what would constitute an excused absence? This is important to know which members are 'in good standing' and eligible to send their record...
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Whatever they are, they should be noted in the bylaws or announced at the beginning of the year so all are aware of what it may consist of. Ours included...
We have always allowed them to count excused absense in their total numbers for percentage in their record book along as they had no more than 3 in a year but...
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