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Adding another wrinkle to the situation, on Monday FoxNews.com reported
that Hayes had no intention of quitting "South Park," but someone had
quit in his name. The report, which cited various "sources," claimed
that Hayes was unable to quit the show because he was recovering from a
stroke he had suffered on January 17, and stated that "it's ...
ridiculous to think Hayes ... would suddenly turn against the show
because they were poking fun at Scientology."
Amy Harnell, a spokesperson for Hayes, told MTV News the Fox News
report was "definitely not true" and that Hayes' decision to quit was
"his and his alone." She added that Hayes was never hospitalized with a
stroke, but rather "spent a few days in a hospital because of a high
blood-pressure condition with medical complications."
...
And while it's not totally clear if Chef is really dead (at the end of
the episode, he's seen being resurrected, Darth-Vader style), Hayes'
spokesperson wants it to be known that the musician is "100-percent"
finished with "South Park."
"He's finished talking about it. Basically, his feeling is, if [Stone
and Parker] felt the need to do episodes like this one, then that's
fine," Harnell said. "He's done with it, and he's already turning his
attention to a series of upcoming commercial projects."
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As I may or may not have mentioned here, we recently adopted (purchased,
after an interview process) a dog. He's a Maltese, though he has grown a
bit larger than the breed is supposed to. He's a wonderful little buddy in
many ways. I've been getting more exercise and have had fun training him --
he's very smart and eager to learn. And he follows me around the house all
the time. "You mean, like a puppy?" Dave Land asked when I mentioned this.
Yes, indeed, he follows me around like a puppy.
However, he has one behavior, which Dave "that's the last time that dog
licks me" Land associates in particular with white dogs. It is... well, the
word "gross" comes to mind, and I don't mean in the Scottish way. He seems
to desire to digest his food twice. Got that? In other words, he is
attracted to his own excrement, which he sometimes consumes. In case that
wasn't clear, apparently he's unfamiliar with the expression, "Eat shit and
die."
At this point, I feel compelled to mention, for those who might be
suspicious, that this is not an April Fools joke. Oh, that it were, for
last night we discovered that there is something worse a dog can do with its
poop than just eat it. The dog can regurgitate it next to the sofa where
you're trying to enjoy a movie and the fireplace on a Friday evening. The
stench was so bad that my initial reaction was to say to Cindy, "We have to
move. I am never going in that living room again." No matter what the
cost, I was unwilling to face the entity in the living room.
However... since it's hard to pack up and move on a Friday night, I managed
hold my breath and approach the toxic spill with a bottle of Nature's
Miracle and knock down the emissions enough that we could actually clean it
up, which involved more Nature's Miracle, Lysol, carpet shampoo and a
wet/dry vaccuum (which I'll have to clean out this morning).
My question to thee, in thy group capacity as Irregulars, is thus: Anybody
know how the heck to get the dang dog to stop munching its offal? We
generally try to pick up his leavings as soon as he leaves them, which makes
it less likely... but we don't always notice when he's done doo-doo. My
dream is that there's some magic potion to add to his food that will
discourage secondary consumption while not interfering with the primary.
Completely unrelated, but I'll mention that today is a hard one for Wes'
family... he was an April Fool's baby. Stop the damn war! There are things
worse than a gift of regurgitated dog shit in the living room.
Nick
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On 1 Apr 2006, at 6:08PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
>
> My question to thee, in thy group capacity as Irregulars, is thus:
> Anybody
> know how the heck to get the dang dog to stop munching its offal? We
> generally try to pick up his leavings as soon as he leaves them,
> which makes
> it less likely... but we don't always notice when he's done doo-
> doo. My
> dream is that there's some magic potion to add to his food that will
> discourage secondary consumption while not interfering with the
> primary.
>
http://tinyurl.com/ndskg
Or you can try adding several dessert spoons of vegetable oil to the
dog's food. This also makes stools unappetising. And messier.
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On 4/1/06, William T Goodall <wtg@...> wrote:
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>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ndskg
Dis-Taste, here we come! Thank you, thank you! Dog bless you!
Or you can try adding several dessert spoons of vegetable oil to the
> dog's food. This also makes stools unappetising. And messier.
Not such a good approach, given that we have to pick up after him when he
goes in public.
Nick
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I figured id use this group for this little question... what do you all know
about cobweb plots and its relation to chaos theory? My friend is working
with them now and explained it just simply as they are related to chaos
theory. Any helpful guidance would be great.
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Nick Lidster wrote:
> I figured id use this group for this little question... what do you
> all know about cobweb plots and its relation to chaos theory? My
> friend is working with them now and explained it just simply as they
> are related to chaos theory. Any helpful guidance would be great.
Nick--
I can't just point you to the Wikipedia article? : )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobweb_plot
This is the part which shows the connection to Chaos Theory:
> On the cobweb plot, a stable fixed point corresponds to an inward
> spiral, while an unstable fixed point is an outward one. A period 2
> orbit is represented by a rectangle, whilst greater period cycles
> produce further, more complex closed loops. A chaotic orbit would
> show a 'filled out' area, indicating an infinite number of
> non-repeating values.
And the rest of Wikipedia is as good as I can do on
the subject...
---David
Sorry, I guess this doesn't really count as help.
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On 4/1/06, Nick Lidster <nick.lidster@...> wrote:
>
> I figured id use this group for this little question... what do you all know
> about cobweb plots and its relation to chaos theory? My friend is working
> with them now and explained it just simply as they are related to chaos
> theory. Any helpful guidance would be great.
>
> Nick
>
RTFW?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobweb_plot
~Maru
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On 4/1/06 12:08 PM, "Nick Arnett" <narnett@...> wrote:
> Completely unrelated, but I'll mention that today is a hard one for Wes'
> family... he was an April Fool's baby. Stop the damn war! There are things
> worse than a gift of regurgitated dog shit in the living room.
This post has cheered me up since losing my job on Thursday.
I don't know for certain, but this seems to be "small" dog behavior. My
large dogs wouldn't go near its own business, much less eat it.
I was watching my step-sisters pug a couple of weeks ago, when I saw this
habit first hand. I was out in the yard letting Mugsy tend to business when
I noticed him eating something...
He kept it down, but I didn't want him near me or the kids.
Solving the problem? Air horn. Even before thinks about it, scare it out
of him before he can take it back in. It works for big dog behaviors, and
I know enough about those.
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On 4/2/06, Matthew and Julie Bos <malamute@...> wrote:
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> Solving the problem? Air horn. Even before thinks about it, scare it out
> of him before he can take it back in. It works for big dog behaviors, and
> I know enough about those.
We found Deter, a product similar to Dis-Taste, which WTG suggested. It
promises to stop the corprophagia.
Our dog is crepuscular and corprophagic. The former is fine, however.
Nick
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In a message dated 3/31/2006 6:28:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
xeem@... writes:
> A total 85 of these 905 cases were so-called high users of mobile
> phones, that is they began early to use mobile and, or wireless
> telephones and used them a lot," the study said.
> "The study also shows that the rise in risk is noticeable for tumors on
> the side of the head where the phone was said to be used," it added.
> Kjell Mild, who led the study, said the figures meant that heavy users
> of mobile phones, for instance of who make mobile phone calls for 2,000
> hours or more in their life, had a 240 percent increased risk for a
> malignant tumor on the side of the head the phone is used.
The relationship between location of tumor and side of phone use would have
to be more than noticable. It should be incredibly strong. For instance
radiation therapy can induce brain tumors but it occurs in the radiiation field
and
at the site where the radiation enters the skull. The inverse square rule would
have to hold. In addition there has to be a mechanism by which the radiation
causes mutations. I no of no evidence that the energy associated with cell
phone use can cause cellular damage in particular since it must first penetrate
the skin and skull. I think this is like the famous power line causing cancer
myth. While there certainly can be unknown effects these effects cannot be
mystical. If brain tumors are more frequent then there must be energy that can
cause mutations. This energy must get to the brain cells in the way that all
energy does; that is it must obey the rules of physics.
>
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At 07:18 PM Sunday 4/2/2006, Bemmzim@... wrote:
>In a message dated 3/31/2006 6:28:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>xeem@... writes:
>
> > A total 85 of these 905 cases were so-called high users of mobile
> > phones, that is they began early to use mobile and, or wireless
> > telephones and used them a lot," the study said.
> > "The study also shows that the rise in risk is noticeable for tumors on
> > the side of the head where the phone was said to be used," it added.
> > Kjell Mild, who led the study, said the figures meant that heavy users
> > of mobile phones, for instance of who make mobile phone calls for 2,000
> > hours or more in their life, had a 240 percent increased risk for a
> > malignant tumor on the side of the head the phone is used.
>
>The relationship between location of tumor and side of phone use would have
>to be more than noticable. It should be incredibly strong. For instance
>radiation therapy can induce brain tumors but it occurs in the
>radiiation field and
>at the site where the radiation enters the skull. The inverse square
>rule would
>have to hold. In addition there has to be a mechanism by which the radiation
>causes mutations. I no of no evidence that the energy associated with cell
>phone use can cause cellular damage in particular since it must
>first penetrate
>the skin and skull. I think this is like the famous power line causing cancer
>myth. While there certainly can be unknown effects these effects cannot be
>mystical. If brain tumors are more frequent then there must be
>energy that can
>cause mutations. This energy must get to the brain cells in the way that all
>energy does; that is it must obey the rules of physics.
Alternative hypothesis explaining the correlation between brain
tumors and cell phone use which afaik the study has not ruled
out: it is the behavioral effects of a pre-existing brain tumor
which causes certain people to drive everywhere and walk everywhere
with a cell phone stuck in their ear because they apparently believe
someone is interested in hearing them talk constantly and give a
running commentary on their lives . . .
Correlation Does Not Prove Causation Maru
(Yakyakyakyakyakyakyakyakyakyakyak Class)
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> From: Bemmzim@...
> In a message dated 3/31/2006 6:28:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> xeem@... writes:
>
> > A total 85 of these 905 cases were so-called high users of mobile
> > phones, that is they began early to use mobile and, or wireless
> > telephones and used them a lot," the study said.
> > "The study also shows that the rise in risk is noticeable for
tumors on
> > the side of the head where the phone was said to be used," it
added.
> > Kjell Mild, who led the study, said the figures meant that heavy
users
> > of mobile phones, for instance of who make mobile phone calls for
2,000
> > hours or more in their life, had a 240 percent increased risk for a
> > malignant tumor on the side of the head the phone is used.
>
> The relationship between location of tumor and side of phone use
would have
> to be more than noticable. It should be incredibly strong. For
instance
> radiation therapy can induce brain tumors but it occurs in the
radiiation field and
> at the site where the radiation enters the skull. The inverse square
rule would
> have to hold. In addition there has to be a mechanism by which the
radiation
> causes mutations. I no of no evidence that the energy associated
with cell
> phone use can cause cellular damage in particular since it must first
penetrate
> the skin and skull. I think this is like the famous power line
causing cancer
> myth. While there certainly can be unknown effects these effects
cannot be
> mystical. If brain tumors are more frequent then there must be energy
that can
> cause mutations. This energy must get to the brain cells in the way
that all
> energy does; that is it must obey the rules of physics.
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"Acoustic neuromas are slow-growing noncancerous tumors that develop on
a nerve linking the brain and the inner ear."
""We looked at DNA damage in animals, not in humans, and found that
cell phone radiation can damage DNA," he said. The body's immune system
has the ability to repair DNA breaks, but sometimes it can make a
mistake and cause a mutation, which could be the first step toward
cancer, Lai said."
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At 09:05 PM Sunday 4/2/2006, The Fool wrote:
> > From: Bemmzim@...
>
> > In a message dated 3/31/2006 6:28:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > xeem@... writes:
> >
> > > A total 85 of these 905 cases were so-called high users of mobile
> > > phones, that is they began early to use mobile and, or wireless
> > > telephones and used them a lot," the study said.
> > > "The study also shows that the rise in risk is noticeable for
>tumors on
> > > the side of the head where the phone was said to be used," it
>added.
> > > Kjell Mild, who led the study, said the figures meant that heavy
>users
> > > of mobile phones, for instance of who make mobile phone calls for
>2,000
> > > hours or more in their life, had a 240 percent increased risk for a
> > > malignant tumor on the side of the head the phone is used.
> >
> > The relationship between location of tumor and side of phone use
>would have
> > to be more than noticable. It should be incredibly strong. For
>instance
> > radiation therapy can induce brain tumors but it occurs in the
>radiiation field and
> > at the site where the radiation enters the skull. The inverse square
>rule would
> > have to hold. In addition there has to be a mechanism by which the
>radiation
> > causes mutations. I no of no evidence that the energy associated
>with cell
> > phone use can cause cellular damage in particular since it must first
> penetrate
> > the skin and skull. I think this is like the famous power line
>causing cancer
> > myth. While there certainly can be unknown effects these effects
>cannot be
> > mystical. If brain tumors are more frequent then there must be energy
>that can
> > cause mutations. This energy must get to the brain cells in the way
>that all
> > energy does; that is it must obey the rules of physics.
>
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>
>"Acoustic neuromas are slow-growing noncancerous tumors that develop on
>a nerve linking the brain and the inner ear."
Q. for Dr. Z: Is an acoustic neuroma considered a type of "brain
tumor"? (Based on what I have read on the subject, ISTM the answer
is "No," but then IANAMD, nor do I play one on TV . . . )
--Ronn! :)
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and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER
GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that
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There was more to the original message, but I think Nick's server may
have gobbled it up. I'll talk to him tomorrow and see if that's the case.
In the meanwhile, talk (or sing) amongst yourselves.
Dave
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Simon & Garfunkle?
--Ronn! :)
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER
GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that
would be eliminated from schools too?"
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On Apr 3, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:
> Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
>> At 02:15 AM Monday 4/3/2006, David Land wrote:
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>> Simon & Garfunkle?
>
> Garfunkel.
>
> And have you been reading the comic Get Fuzzy?
>
> http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20060328.html
>
> (Ronn! might appreciate some of the ones for the rest of that week,
> as well.)
I love this group: give them nothing, and they riff on that!
BTW: Never heard of Get Fuzzy before, but thanks for the recco: great
stuff.
Dave
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Acoustic neuromas are slow-growing noncancerous tumors that develop on
a nerve linking the brain and the inner ear."
Technically these tumors are more accurately called vestibular schwannomas (They
arise from the vestibular branch (balance controlling) rather than the cochlear
(hearing contolling - thus acoustic) branch of the 8th cranial nerve and the
cells are scwhann cells not neural cells). They are benign neoplasms (not sure
where the popularly stated notion that benign tumors are not cancers comes from
but this is not really a good distinction since the border between benign and
malignant tumors of many types is not sharp).
""We looked at DNA damage in animals, not in humans, and found that
cell phone radiation can damage DNA," he said. The body's immune system
has the ability to repair DNA breaks, but sometimes it can make a
mistake and cause a mutation, which could be the first step toward
cancer, Lai said."
In instances like this dose is all important. How much radiation over how long a
period of time? What size are the animals? (Radiation may penetrate to the
vestibular nerves more easily in a small animal than a human). The fact of the
matter is that I have been doing neuroradiology for about 30 years and I have
seen no rise in the incidence of vestibular scwhannomas in my practice and none
of my colleagues has commented to me that they have seen any increased
incidence. I will hold an informal poll at the next national neuroradiology
meeting in May and get back to you all but for the moment I remain very
skeptical
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Q. for Dr. Z: Is an acoustic neuroma considered a type of "brain tumor"? (Based
on what I have read on the subject, ISTM the answer is "No," but then IANAMD,
nor do I play one on TV . . . )
It is not a tumor of the brain but rather a tumor arising from cells (schwann
cells) that cover nerves leaving the brain. Most but not all are benign.
Generically we lump all of these together and central nervous system tumors but
they do not arise from the cells that typically cause tumors in the brain
itself. "Brain tumor most often arise from support cells in the brain
(astrocytes, oligodendrocytes, ependymocytes) and lest commonly from neurons
(Ganglioglioma, Central Neurocytoma, Primitive neuroectodermal tumors). Nerves
cells rarely divide after developement and therefore are not subject to harmful
mutations.
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On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:39 PM, bemmzim@... wrote:
> "Brain tumor most often arise from support cells in the brain
> (astrocytes, oligodendrocytes, ependymocytes) and lest commonly
> from neurons (Ganglioglioma, Central Neurocytoma, Primitive
> neuroectodermal tumors). Nerves cells rarely divide after
> developement and therefore are not subject to harmful mutations.
From my experience, I recommend a nice Mixed Oligo-Astrocytoma of
the frontal lobe over, for example, Anaplastic Ependymoma. The
former, in my experience, is a happy little indolent tumor that is
easily removed and treated with just about the gentlest chemotherapy
that can be had. The latter, in my experience is a rotten, murdering
bastard that is evil and should be eradicated.
So there,
Dave
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In a message dated 4/2/2006 8:40:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ronn_blankenship@... writes:
> Alternative hypothesis explaining the correlation between brain
> tumors and cell phone use which afaik the study has not ruled
> out: it is the behavioral effects of a pre-existing brain tumor
> which causes certain people to drive everywhere and walk everywhere
> with a cell phone stuck in their ear because they apparently believe
> someone is interested in hearing them talk constantly and give a
> running commentary on their lives . . .
>
> So everyone in New York has a brain tumor?
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In a message dated 4/3/2006 4:54:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dland@... writes:
> From my experience, I recommend a nice Mixed Oligo-Astrocytoma of
> the frontal lobe over, for example, Anaplastic Ependymoma. The
> former, in my experience, is a happy little indolent tumor that is
> easily removed and treated with just about the gentlest chemotherapy
> that can be had. The latter, in my experience is a rotten, murdering
> bastard that is evil and should be eradicated
The word anaplastic is always bad. By far the best brain tumor to have is
Juvenile Pilocytic Astrocytoma of the cerebellum. Totally benign completely
resectable. If you are going to have an oligo it is betterf to be a pure oligo
but
the right anterior ftontal lobe is a good place because a wide resection is
possible. On balance however the best is no tumor at all.
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The news seems to be that Tom Delay is dropping out of the race for
Congressional re-election.
Having been recently absorbed into his collective I'm breathing a sigh
of relief.
xponent
Politics Today Maru
rob
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On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:26 AM, Bemmzim@... wrote:
>
> The word anaplastic is always bad. By far the best brain tumor to
> have is
> Juvenile Pilocytic Astrocytoma of the cerebellum.
Might I suggest that "least worst" might be a better descriptive
ranking when talking about tumours?
Charlie
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In The Last Witchfinder, James Morrow covers some of the same
territory Doctor Brin points us toward and should be a novel of
interest.
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/interviews/sfw12472.html
Quote:
A second tributary feeding the cataract that became Witchfinder was
the creeping theocracy, gimcrack spirituality and anti-Enlightenment
irrationality that saturated my native republic during the '80s and
'90s. These tendencies are flowering fully under George W. Bush, but
they go back to the Reagan era. Then, as now, the American affection
for nonsense was ubiquitous. On the one hand, you had postmodern
academics dismissing the Enlightenment because it supposedly places
destructive technologies and specious arguments at the disposal of
oppressors. On the other hand, you had religious conservatives
detesting the Enlightenment because it leads to secularism and the
satanic Mr. Darwin. On the third hand, there were the New Age
mysticism-mongers, who hated the Enlightenment for allegedly
engendering a cosmically clueless scientism. My satiric bone began to
vibrate. I postulated that if you ever got the postmodern left, the
religious right and the mystic fringe agreeing on anything, it
couldn't possibly be true—and so I resolved to write a novel
celebrating the Enlightenment.
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Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
> The news seems to be that Tom Delay is dropping out of the race for
> Congressional re-election.
> Having been recently absorbed into his collective I'm breathing a sigh
> of relief.
>
>
> xponent
> Politics Today Maru
> rob
Got a link?
(I'm pretty happy, as well, if that's what's going on. Now there's just
that mess with Ronnie Earle to keep him in our paper here....)
Julia
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At 08:21 PM Monday 4/3/2006, Bemmzim@... wrote:
>In a message dated 4/2/2006 8:40:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>ronn_blankenship@... writes:
>
> > Alternative hypothesis explaining the correlation between brain
> > tumors and cell phone use which afaik the study has not ruled
> > out: it is the behavioral effects of a pre-existing brain tumor
> > which causes certain people to drive everywhere and walk everywhere
> > with a cell phone stuck in their ear because they apparently believe
> > someone is interested in hearing them talk constantly and give a
> > running commentary on their lives . . .
>
>So everyone in New York has a brain tumor?
Thou hast said . . .
--Ronn! :)
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER
GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that
would be eliminated from schools too?"
-- Red Skelton
(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)
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At 11:09 PM Monday 4/3/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
>Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
>>The news seems to be that Tom Delay is dropping out of the race for
>>Congressional re-election.
>>Having been recently absorbed into his collective I'm breathing a
>>sigh of relief.
>>
>>xponent
>>Politics Today Maru
>>rob
>
>Got a link?
>
>(I'm pretty happy, as well, if that's what's going on. Now there's
>just that mess with Ronnie Earle to keep him in our paper here....)
>
> Julia
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--Ronn! :)
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER
GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that
would be eliminated from schools too?"
-- Red Skelton
(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)
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