Washington Times - Jews don gray, fight for SouthHello,
Here is a segment of our history that most American's today are not aware of.
Deo Vindice,
Mike in Sacto
Thursday, November 26, 2009
Jews don gray, fight for South
Gordon Berg SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
There are 30 of them, with names such as Adler, Cohen, Hessberg, Wolf and
Seldner. They came from Virginia, Mississippi, Texas, North Carolina, South
Carolina, Georgia and Louisiana. All of them were soldiers, Jews, and they all
died in Virginia during the Civil War.
Today they lie together in a peaceful plot known as the Soldier's Section of the
old Hebrew Cemetery, the oldest Jewish military cemetery in the world, on
Richmond's Shockoe Hill.
Jews had lived in Richmond since the 1760s, and by 1860, the city boasted three
synagogues. In 1816, the Richmond Common Council deeded one acre of land on
Shockoe Hill to Kaal Kadosh Beth Shalome "to be by them held and exclusively
used as a burying-ground, subject to their rites and laws, for that purpose and
for that alone."
In 1843, Congregation Beth Ahabah, founded two years earlier by German Jews,
gained burial privileges shared with the older synagogue until the congregations
merged in 1898. Many prominent Jewish business and cultural leaders are buried
in the Hebrew Cemetery, now comprising 8.4 acres, although Jews also are buried
in other Richmond cemeteries.
Donning the gray
When the Southern states began to secede from the Union and war seemed imminent,
young Jewish men across the South flocked to the Confederacy's colors with the
same enthusiasm as their Christian counterparts, and for many of the same
reasons.
Because Jews rarely self-identified outside of their religious communities and
did not form ethnic regiments like the Irish or the Germans, it is hard to know
precisely how many donned Confederate gray. Estimates run between 2,000 and
3,000. New Orleans, the South's largest city, also had the would-be nation's
largest concentration of Jews. Charleston, S.C., Atlanta and Richmond also had
sizable Jewish populations.
Richmond's Jews quickly immersed themselves in the war effort, both on and off
the battlefield. More than 100 enlisted in the Confederate army, including 15
who joined the Richmond Blues, later to become the 46th Virginia Infantry.
Myer Angle, president of Beth Ahabah, had six sons who served in the Army of
Northern Virginia. Rabbi Maximilian J. Michelbacher waged a campaign throughout
the war for religious observances on behalf of Jewish Confederates. He wrote
repeatedly to Gen. Robert E. Lee, requesting furloughs for the soldiers to
attend High Holy Days and Passover services. Lee respectfully declined each
time.
The men buried in the Soldier's Section rest in hallowed ground, maintained
today by the Hebrew Cemetery Co. because after the war, a devout and determined
group of Jewish women followed the example of their gentile sisters and formed a
memorial association to, in the words of historian Caroline E. Janney, "bury the
dead but not the past."
Powerful symbols
Organized on June 5, 1866, the Hebrew Ladies' Memorial Association (HLMA) began
a process, repeated in communities all across the South, to rebury Confederate
soldiers and sanctify their memory by erecting monuments and celebrating
memorial days that honored their sacrifice. Historian Gaines Foster says these
memorial associations "helped to ensure that the Confederate dead became
powerful cultural symbols," thus enabling the ghosts of the Confederacy to haunt
the New South for decades.
Rachel Levy, HLMA's corresponding secretary, dedicated the plot of ground for
the Soldier's Section the same day the organization was created. The HLMA
couldn't afford the expense of maintaining the plot, so Levy issued a printed
appeal to the "Israelites of the South" for "some pecuniary assistance" to
"furnish a simple stone" at the head of each grave.
The circular, printed in newspapers across the South, concluded with a ringing
affirmation of Jewish patriotism to the Confederate cause. "When the malicious
tongue of slander, ever so ready to assail Israel, shall be raised against us,"
it read, "then with a feeling of mournful pride, will we point to this monument
and say 'There is our reply.' "
Originally the Soldier's Section consisted of six rows with five plots to a row,
each grave marked by a simple marble headstone. Deterioration and the cost of
maintenance caused the individual markers to be removed in the 1950s, replaced
by a granite boulder with a bronze plaque containing 29 names and recognition of
one unknown (probably identified as a Jew because he was circumcised).
Five Jewish soldiers who also died in battle are buried outside the Soldier's
Section, and as many as 40 Confederates are buried elsewhere within the Hebrew
Cemetery.
The iron fence
In 1871, the association commissioned William Barksdale Myers, a noted Richmond
artist, to design a wrought-iron fence to surround the Soldier's Section. Myers
had served as an engineer officer and adjutant for Maj. Gens. Samuel Jones and
William B. Loring during the war and was described as "witty and full of quaint
satire ... a good and reliable officer."
The posts of the fence are furled Confederate flags with stacked muskets, with a
flat Confederate soldier's cap on top of them. The railings between the posts
are crossed swords and sabers hung with wreaths of laurel. The fence is
considered the finest piece of 19th-century ornamental ironwork in the city.
Myers died at age 33, two years after designing the fence.
Like other memorial associations, the HLMA collected money for maintaining the
Soldier's Section and sponsored speakers for Memorial Day celebrations. Because
Jews do not adorn graves with flowers, the boundary fence usually was wreathed
in greenery for special occasions.
During the early decades of the 20th century, many ladies' memorial associations
began to decline, often merging into other benevolent or commemorative
organizations, such as the United Daughters of the Confederacy. The HLMA of Beth
Ahabah never numbered more than 60 members. It closed its financial accounts in
October 1943.
Capt. Jacob A. Cohen
It's not clear how these 30 men came to be buried in the Soldier's Section, and
there is only partial information about many of them. Even the accuracy of some
of the data on the bronze tablet adorning the monument today is open to
question.
Nevertheless, personal information pieced together from Beth Ahabah records,
regimental histories and service records stored in the National Archives reveal
that these soldiers probably represented a cross section of the rich and diverse
Jewish life that thrived in the South during the antebellum and war years.
Three officers are buried in the Soldier's Section. Capt. Jacob A. Cohen, 41, of
Company A, 10th Louisiana Infantry, probably was the oldest when he died along
with 18 other men from his regiment on Aug. 30, 1862, in the desperate fighting
along the railroad cut at the Battle of Second Manassas.
The men of the 10th Louisiana were predominantly immigrant Irish, recruited in
the tough New Orleans neighborhood known as the Irish Channel. Cohen, probably
born in Dublin, was a laborer before enlisting.
Literate in spite of his humble profession, Cohen had written a scathing letter
to Rabbi Max Lilienthal of Cincinnati after Lilienthal had castigated Southern
Jews who supported secession. Across a picture of the respected and well-known
rabbi, Cohen wrote: "I shall be engaged actively in the field and should be
happy to rid Israel of the disgrace of your life."
A charming officer
Lt. William Meyer Wolf of Company G, 11th South Carolina Infantry, was just 21
when he was killed at Swift Creek during the siege of Petersburg on May 9, 1864.
When Wolf died, the regiment's colonel wrote to his father in Ridgeville, S.C.,
calling the young lieutenant "one of the most efficient, active, and charming
officers of his rank in my regiment." Wolf's company paid for his coffin.
The body of Pvt. Julius Zork (listed as Zark on the plaque) of Company E, 7th
Louisiana Infantry, probably traveled the farthest after he was killed in the
Shenandoah Valley at the Battle of Cross Keys on June 8, 1862. Pvt. Henry L.
Caldwell recorded in his diary that he saw Zork, a hat maker from New Orleans,
die instantly from a bursting Union artillery shell.
Moses Levy of the 16th Mississippi Infantry also died in the valley. The 16th
was part of Gen. Stonewall Jackson's foot cavalry and the only Mississippi
regiment to fight in the storied 1862 Valley Campaign. Levy probably was wounded
at the Battle of Winchester on May 25, 1862. He died six days later while his
regiment was marching south toward Strasburg.
Solomon Oury, also of the 16th Mississippi, died in an environment far less
bucolic than the Shenandoah Valley. On June 16, 1864, the day Oury died, his
regiment was on the move to Camp Holly on New Market Heights outside of
Petersburg. It's not clear how Oury died, but it could have been from wounds
received at the slaughter pen that was the Battle of Cold Harbor.
Henry Gintzberger of the 9th Virginia Infantry was killed at Cold Harbor on June
2, 1864, and his story probably is the most unusual of all. A German immigrant,
Gintzberger was a peddler in Roanoke County before he enlisted in the Salem
Flying Artillery at the beginning of the war. A comrade recalled that "the only
Jewish soldier in the Command was shot thru the head while peering over the
breastworks." His name, however, was mistakenly reported to be Gersberg, and he
was buried in the Soldier's Section under that name. It wasn't until 1963 that
his true identity was established and his proper name added to the bronze
plaque.
Fitting epitaph
Five other Virginians are buried in the Soldier's Section. Henry Adler, 22, of
the 46th Virginia was the first private in his regiment wounded in action on
Roanoke Island. He died on March 18, 1862 at a hospital in Portsmouth, Va.
Matthew Isaac Hessberg of the 30th Virginia died of typhoid fever on Oct. 16,
1861, in Fredericksburg, Va. Isaac Seldner was a clerk in Norfolk when he
enlisted in the 6th Virginia. Captured at Crampton's Gap just before the Battle
of Antietam, Seldner was killed at Chancellorsville on May 3, 1863.
These soldiers all died fighting for a cause in which they believed. A sentence
in Levy's 1866 appeal for financial assistance can probably serve as a fitting
epitaph for all the men buried in the Soldier's Section. "While as Israelites we
mourn the untimely loss of our loved ones," she wrote, "it will be a grateful
reflection that they suffered not their country to call in vain."
• Gordon Berg is past president of the Civil War Round Table of the District
of Columbia.
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Just learned that Frances Casstenvens, who wrote several books on the war,
including a history of the 28th NCT, passed away last evening.
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
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Frank - I appeciate your reference to my new book. I spent many hours trying to
carefully examine the details of the Pettigrew-Trimbe Assault on July 3.
note to all----
I will be speaking in Highlands, NC (way out west) on Monday Sept 14th if you
live anywhere near there I would like to see you attend. Highlands Civic Center,
Highlands NC 7:00 PM 9/14/09
I have been the webmaster of the 69th Pa "Irish Volunteers" website for many
years. We used to be with geocities but when Yahoo took them over we were just
shifted over---- no problem (as far a sites) However the discussion format is a
tougher animal to shift.
By the way (a note for readers who live in Western North Carolina OR Eastern
Tennessee or North Ga) --- I will be speaking on my new book ALSO FOR GLORY- The
Pettigrew-Trimble Chage at Gettysburg on Monday September 14th sponsored by the
Western NC CW Roundtable in Highlands, NC. 7:00 PM.
Focus will be on the role of the 26th NC 7/1--7/3. For more info contact
WNCCWRT
Don Ernsberger
Michael,
I believe hosting a link off of your webpage, as you suggest, is the best
alternative. We are really all somewhat to blame for not posting enough
discussion points ... as for myself, working as an avionics engineer, trying to
finish Ph.D. school for electrical engineering and raising two daughters are
proving to be a lot to handle. I have been working on a book on the 7th NC
since 2007 but can't get much traction on that until some other stuff is off of
my plate. My SCV camp is nearly close enough to walk to yet I've not been to a
meeting since March of this year (and have missed another one tonight due to
illness (one that the kids brought home from school as they typically do when
school starts!)). I now do no more that 1-2 events as a year (as a re-enactor
in the 2nd MD Inf Co "C", 1st Bn. CMF), especially since we are doing more and
more campaign events all of which are in MD/VA/PA & etc, and since moving from
Maryland to Georgia I have not
done any Army of Tennessee events at all - there is just no time left.
Anyway, my point is that there are a lot of things that get in the way of
putting up good and though-provoking posts ... but I did recently have the
chance to start reading "Also for Glory", which as you know is a book/roster
about the Pettigrew-Trimble charge and one in which you are noted as one of the
sources. It does have some weak points (such as no index to look up individual
soldiers in the roster and really not a very satisfactory explanation about why
Brockenbrough's brigade basically quit the field or else were taking too much
fire and disintegrated) but overall is a very good work I think. It is enough
of a good work, in fact, to finally satisfy me that my ancestor, Lt. D.F. Kinney
(cmdg. Co "F" of the 7th NC in the charge), in his 1877 account to the Raleigh
Observer, matched all of the other 7th NC officers' accounts (at least
substantively) and that these collective accounts (plus other evidence) is at
least enough to seriously
question the conclusion that one prominent author arrived at and
relayed directly to me - that Lt. Kinney was "exaggerating", had fallen victim
to the "fog of war" or even perhaps lied to bolster the "false" claims of fellow
North Carolinians when Lt. Kinney made the statement that Yankees were falling
in on his "right and rear" at the turnpike (Emmitsburg Road). Ernsberger makes
the assertion (one that I'm inclined to agree with) that companies F, A and H
(of the 7th) all "appeared to settle into the roadbed and fire away at the
Yankee positions uphill ahead." Turner's severe wound and the decimation of
the regimental color guard certainly wouldn't have made any advance by these
companies more likely.
The author makes notable use of the 1877 Raleigh Observer request to N.C.
veterans for their accounts of Gettysburg and got a very good response.
Certainly based on what I've read, Lt. Kinney did not cross the turnpike nor did
any members of his company that I know. The book discusses how the 7th followed
Trimble's orders instead of Lane's orders (to move in echelon to the left?).
Author Don Ernsberger notes on Page 116 of "Also For Glory - "The key feature of
the Trimble advance was the split in Lane's Brigade into two separate thrusts
(ostensibly caused by the contradictory/conflicting commands of Lane and
Trimble). Major J. McLeod Turner in command of the 7th NC explaned 'I looked
ahead and saw Pettigrew advancing in good order. The left three regiments
(33rd, 18th and 28th) then obliqued left and the right two regiments (7th and
37th) obliqued right ... leaving a gap in our lines. Our losses were slight as
we approached the road' ".
I have not read your book on the 37th regiment but I believe Ernsberger's
account does it (the regiment) justice. There were apparently members of the
37th to advance past the road because he includes these accounts. Why they
charged and the 7th's companies did not - I am not sure I can answer this except
to state what I did about the color guard and wounding of Maj. Turner. Perhaps
this should have been enough to motivate the remainder of the regiment (a la
Col. Robert Gould Shaw's dramatic fatal wound in the movie Glory) or maybe Capt.
James Harris was advised by Maj. Turner to retire (I'm not sure that Maj. Turner
was in any shape to give more than just direction that he was turning over his
command since he'd been wounded twice & was at that point paralyzed)? Maybe the
threat of a flanking body prompted LtCol. Morris' to rally what was left of his
(37th) regiment to cross the road and offer battle? Your book probably answers
many of these
questions and on some other of Lane's regiments I admit to having not studied
them except in a cursory fashion.
Respectfully,
Frank A. Willis
Sons of Confederate Veterans
Camp #1397
Dallas, Georgia
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Michael,
For my re-enacting unit, I use google groups and its' free. Just a
suggestion - your site would be fine too.
Clay Kearney
On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Michael C. Hardy wrote:
Left me clarify – the old web page is going away. However, This forum
will still exist. I’ll just need to place it somewhere so new people
can find it. Of course, discussion has been rather sparse lately. Much
of it is my fault. I’ve been working on the 58th NCT book which is
defiantly not Branch-Lane related.
I will probably just put something up on the web page – something like
www.michaelchardy.com/branch-lane/
(no, nothing there yet), and have a spot where people can sign up.
But, what do ya’ll think?
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> From: globeandanchor@...
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:00:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: BLBS Decisions....
>
> Hello from California,
>
> Michael,
>
> I believe your first thought is the best to go with. We all can
> check in with you occasionally to read a "bulletin board" of the
> latest news.
>
> Unless you can come up with another facsimile of the former
> "Yahoogroups" to post the latest information or letters from the
> membership what choice do we have?
>
> Mike in Sacto
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:48 PM
> Subject: BLBS Decisions....
>
>
> Well folks, yahoo geocities, with whom I've had the Branch-Lane
> brigade account with for many years, is closing - I think it is
> already down. What would ya'll like to do? I could re-set up the
> page on my own site - www.michaelchardy.com, or, we could do
> something else. I don't think there are any more "free" sites left.
> What are your suggestions? The Yahoo groups page, through which you
> are receiving this, is not going anywhere.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
> www.michaelchardy.com
>
>
>
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How about proboards forums? We have many forums there and have worked well for
our needs. You can also setup archive threads, etc so info won't be lost instead
of just discussion. http://www.proboards.com/
Art Hathcock
-----Original Message-----
From: mchardy05 <mchardy@...>
To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 5:48 pm
Subject: BLBS Decisions....
Well folks, yahoo geocities, with whom I've had the Branch-Lane brigade account
with for many years, is closing – I think it is already down. What would ya'll
like to do? I could re-set up the page on my own site – www.michaelchardy.com,
or, we could do something else. I don't think there are any more "free" sites
left. What are your suggestions? The Yahoo groups page, through which you are
receiving this, is not going anywhere.
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
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Hello, again, from California,
A.O.K. Mike; go for it!
Mike in Sacto
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael C. Hardy" <mchardy@...>
To: "Branch-Lane Birgade" <branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:46 PM
Subject: BLBS Clarification
Left me clarify - the old web page is going away. However, This forum will
still exist. I'll just need to place it somewhere so new people can find it.
Of course, discussion has been rather sparse lately. Much of it is my fault.
I've been working on the 58th NCT book which is defiantly not Branch-Lane
related.
I will probably just put something up on the web page - something like
www.michaelchardy.com/branch-lane/ (no, nothing there yet), and have a spot
where people can sign up. But, what do ya'll think?
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> From: globeandanchor@...
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:00:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: BLBS Decisions....
>
> Hello from California,
>
> Michael,
>
> I believe your first thought is the best to go with. We all can check in
> with you occasionally to read a "bulletin board" of the latest news.
>
> Unless you can come up with another facsimile of the former "Yahoogroups"
> to post the latest information or letters from the membership what choice
> do we have?
>
> Mike in Sacto
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mchardy05
> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:48 PM
> Subject: BLBS Decisions....
>
>
> Well folks, yahoo geocities, with whom I've had the Branch-Lane brigade
> account with for many years, is closing - I think it is already down. What
> would ya'll like to do? I could re-set up the page on my own site -
> www.michaelchardy.com, or, we could do something else. I don't think there
> are any more "free" sites left. What are your suggestions? The Yahoo
> groups page, through which you are receiving this, is not going anywhere.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
> www.michaelchardy.com
>
>
>
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Left me clarify – the old web page is going away. However, This forum will still
exist. I’ll just need to place it somewhere so new people can find it. Of
course, discussion has been rather sparse lately. Much of it is my fault. I’ve
been working on the 58th NCT book which is defiantly not Branch-Lane related.
I will probably just put something up on the web page – something like
www.michaelchardy.com/branch-lane/ (no, nothing there yet), and have a spot
where people can sign up. But, what do ya’ll think?
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> From: globeandanchor@...
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:00:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: BLBS Decisions....
>
> Hello from California,
>
> Michael,
>
> I believe your first thought is the best to go with. We all can check in with
you occasionally to read a "bulletin board" of the latest news.
>
> Unless you can come up with another facsimile of the former "Yahoogroups" to
post the latest information or letters from the membership what choice do we
have?
>
> Mike in Sacto
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mchardy05
> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:48 PM
> Subject: BLBS Decisions....
>
>
> Well folks, yahoo geocities, with whom I've had the Branch-Lane brigade
account with for many years, is closing - I think it is already down. What would
ya'll like to do? I could re-set up the page on my own site -
www.michaelchardy.com, or, we could do something else. I don't think there are
any more "free" sites left. What are your suggestions? The Yahoo groups page,
through which you are receiving this, is not going anywhere.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
> www.michaelchardy.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Hello from California,
Michael,
I believe your first thought is the best to go with. We all can check in with
you occasionally to read a "bulletin board" of the latest news.
Unless you can come up with another facsimile of the former "Yahoogroups" to
post the latest information or letters from the membership what choice do we
have?
Mike in Sacto
----- Original Message -----
From: mchardy05
To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:48 PM
Subject: BLBS Decisions....
Well folks, yahoo geocities, with whom I've had the Branch-Lane brigade
account with for many years, is closing - I think it is already down. What would
ya'll like to do? I could re-set up the page on my own site -
www.michaelchardy.com, or, we could do something else. I don't think there are
any more "free" sites left. What are your suggestions? The Yahoo groups page,
through which you are receiving this, is not going anywhere.
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Well folks, yahoo geocities, with whom I've had the Branch-Lane brigade account
with for many years, is closing – I think it is already down. What would ya'll
like to do? I could re-set up the page on my own site – www.michaelchardy.com,
or, we could do something else. I don't think there are any more "free" sites
left. What are your suggestions? The Yahoo groups page, through which you are
receiving this, is not going anywhere.
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
Hello from California,
I received this from my Cousin back home in North Carolina and it is a very
interesting web site.
Mike in Sacto
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From: Philip Van Hoy
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:26 AM
Subject: Fw: [Fwd: Civil War Animation]
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We need to repatriate the body from Elmira.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, <CAROSAN1@...> wrote:
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Subj: [Fwd: Civil War Animation]
Civil War Animated
Fascinating!
Gettysburg, eg., has hour by hour movements of troops . . . .
My great grampa was a private in 45th:
http://kenbrown.info/stokes/regimental_history.htm
45th Regiment, North Carolina Infantry
45th Infantry Regiment was organized at Camp Mangum, near Raleigh, North
Carolina, in April, 1862,
with men from [Person] Rockingham, Caswell, Guilford, and Forsyth counties.
It served under the command of Generals Daniel and Grimes. After fighting at
Malvern Cliff in Virginia,
it returned to North Carolina and was stationed in the Kinston-New Bern
area. During the spring of 1863
the unit moved north and took an active part in the campaigns of the Army of
Northern Virginia from
Gettysburg to Cold Harbor.
It continued the fight with Early in the Shenandoah Valley and ended the war
at Appomattox. It reported
2 killed and 14 wounded at Malvern Cliff, lost about forty percent of the
570 engaged at Gettysburg, and
sustained 2 casualties at Bristoe and 6 at Mine Run. The unit surrendered
with 7 officers and 88 men.
The field officers were Colonels Samuel H. Boyd, Junius Daniel, John H.
Morehead, and John R. Winston;
Lieutenant Colonels Andrew J. Boyd and James S. Dalton; and Majors Samuel C.
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Good Morning Michael
Thank you for writing back. I knew I left something out of my
question! It would be "Falling Waters".
Sandy
On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Michael C. Hardy wrote:
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> Sandy – are you talking about Shepherdstown, Falling Waters, or
> Petersburg?
>
> Regards,
> Michael
> http://michaelchardy.blogspot.com
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>> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
>> From: Satin86@...
>> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:16:24 -0700
>> Subject: Re: BLBS Re: Brigadier JH Lane
>>
>> Hello...
>> I am doing some research on Hill's corps/Gen'l Lane's brigade and
>> Lee's retreat.
>> Was the 7th 18th 33rd and 37th with Lane when they crossed over the
>> pontoon bridge and... was (all) of the 28th were in line and would
>> have been the last ones to cross over?
>> Your help is really appreciated
>> Thanks,
>> Private Sandy Lane
>> 7th Virginia Infantry
>> Volunteers Co.C
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Sandy – are you talking about Shepherdstown, Falling Waters, or Petersburg?
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> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:16:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: BLBS Re: Brigadier JH Lane
>
> Hello...
> I am doing some research on Hill's corps/Gen'l Lane's brigade and
> Lee's retreat.
> Was the 7th 18th 33rd and 37th with Lane when they crossed over the
> pontoon bridge and... was (all) of the 28th were in line and would
> have been the last ones to cross over?
> Your help is really appreciated
> Thanks,
> Private Sandy Lane
> 7th Virginia Infantry
> Volunteers Co.C
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Hello...
I am doing some research on Hill's corps/Gen'l Lane's brigade and
Lee's retreat.
Was the 7th 18th 33rd and 37th with Lane when they crossed over the
pontoon bridge and... was (all) of the 28th were in line and would
have been the last ones to cross over?
Your help is really appreciated
Thanks,
Private Sandy Lane
7th Virginia Infantry
Volunteers Co.C
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Hi Frank old Color Guard member!
The 7th North Carolina Flag was captured by Pvt. John Mayberry of the 1st
Delaware, and was captured just we of the angle wall. It is in the NC Museum of
History.
Deo Vindice
Ray Rooks
Color Sergeant
Maryland Division
Sons of Confederate Veterans
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> Does anybody know who captured the 7th North Carolina's flag at Gettysburg on
July 3, 1863? I haven't been able to find anything definitive on which unit
did. As far as where it is now, the last I heard it was in Raleigh in the North
Carolina Museum of History.
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Does anybody know who captured the 7th North Carolina's flag at Gettysburg on
July 3, 1863? I haven't been able to find anything definitive on which unit
did. As far as where it is now, the last I heard it was in Raleigh in the North
Carolina Museum of History.
Greetings fellow Branch-Lane Brigaders ! Here is the latest article from the
Opelika and Aubrun online newspaper. It seems that Dowdell got his publicity and
has retreated. You can read more at
http://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/article/dowdell_apologizes/71268/
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
Auburn City Councilman Arthur L. Dowdell apologized Tuesday night for removing
four Confederate battle flags from Pine Hill Cemetery on April 23.
Dowdell, the representative for Ward 1, pointed his apology toward members of
the United Daughters of the Confederacy and Sons of Confederate Veterans
attending the council's regular meeting.
At the beginning of the meeting, the council passed a resolution urging Dowdell
"to make a public apology to the citizens of Auburn." With the resolution, the
city council also condemned Dowdell's actions as "inappropriate and beneath the
office of a city councilman."
Dowdell opposed the resolution since he hadn't seen it prior to the meeting, but
agreed to voice his opinion to the council and citizens later in the meeting.
During the citizens comments portion of the meeting, Dowdell and the rest of the
council listened to 25 citizens express their opinions on Dowdell and the
Confederate flag for nearly two hours. After 12 people had spoken, Ward 8
Councilman Bob Norman asked to suspend the rest of citizens communications in
order for the council to proceed with the remainder of the agenda.
The remaining business took all of five minutes and citizens were speaking
again.
The majority of citizen speakers were from outside Auburn. About half supported
Dowdell and his actions, agreeing use of the flag was offensive.
"I don't care if it was one flag or 100 flags, if it don't say United States of
America, to me, it's wrong," said the Rev. Larry Taylor, who identified himself
as Dowdell's brother.
Others, including several members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans,
disagreed, and said they considered the flag removal a violation of civil
rights.
"You may not agree with them, but that doesn't give you the right to violate
freedom of speech," said Auburn resident Benjamin Bacon.
Billy Bearden said he traveled 90 miles from Mt. Zion, Ga., because he was so
motivated by the issue. Bearden, dressed in a full Confederate uniform, carrying
a small Confederate battle flag, marched up and down the sidewalk in front of
city hall for a couple of hours before the meeting.
"I'm here to speak for those who can't," he said, referring to the Confederate
soldiers.
Bearden told the council he considered Dowdell's actions to be the same as
someone knocking over his father's headstone in Arlington National Cemetery and
spitting on it.
Dowdell defended his actions in his address. Since neither the city manager nor
the mayor were able to tell him why the flags were in Pine Hill, Dowdell said he
thought they were there for a KKK rally. Had he known they were there for the
Confederate Memorial Day ceremony, he said he would have walked away.
He apologized to both Confederate groups. He said it was not his intention to
hurt them. Dowdell said his actions were the result of "miscommunication" and
"ignorance." "I'm sorry this happened," he said. "I hope we can get passed it."
During the meeting, the mayor and Norman each read prepared statements
expressing their disapproval of their fellow councilman's action.
Ward 5 Councilman Robin Kelley got in the last word of the evening when he
expressed his disappointment in Dowdell for not asking him about the flags. Pine
Hill is in Kelley's ward.
"I was never contacted," Kelley said. "If you called me, I would have told you
(what they were for.)
"It's desecration what you did. End of discussion."
I am trying to find the approximate numbers of deserters from any of
the regiments of Lane's brigade once he took over, and also if
possible the number of deserters who were executed. I've read some
material on NC regiments not in Lane's brigade that encountered
problems, but I've never seen any fairly definitive numbers on
desertions in Lane's brigade. Thanks for your help.
Rich Donnell
On Apr 26, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Michael C. Hardy wrote:
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>
>
> Here are more articles concerning the councilman in Auburn. Make
> sure you read the last one. Would it not be ironic if Councilman
> Dowdell were related to Colonel Dowdell of the 37th Alabama
> infantry? The Colonel is buried just feet from the grave of General
> Lane.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
> www.michaelchardy.com
>
> http://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/article/
> dowdells_actions_garner_disapproval/69850/
>
> http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20090425/NEWS02/904250351
>
> http://www.reddingnewsreview.com/newspages/2009newspages/
> councilman_flag_exclusive_09_09100088.htm
>
> http://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/article/
> davis_says_dowdell_was_wrong_to_remove_flags/69912/
>
>
> > To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> > From: volsfans4ever@...
> > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:45:02 -0700
> > Subject: BLBS Gen'l Lane's grave descecrated
> >
> > Branch Lane Brigade & friends,
> >
> > "best interests of all involved to settle privately"???? .... I
> will submit to this "gentleman" (I am referring to the councilman
> who does not deserve to be named) that he holds a public office, so
> I disagree with the mayor on this note. All of us are friends of
> descendants, spouses of descendants or are ourselves descendants of
> men who served with Gen'l Lane and I am sure that you are as
> incensed at this sacrilege as I am.
> >
> > Is there a way to contact the city council? If the councilman in
> question performed this act in an "official" capacity (and to some
> extent even if he did not), then he should be removed. I do not
> believe that the mayor ought to duck-and-cover under the guise of
> political correctness, as it appears he is doing.
> >
> > Is there any legal action being taken in this case? Perhaps Mr.
> William C. Trimble, Esq. of Maryland would be of great assistance
> in this matter (and no doubt is himself already angered by this
> incident)?
> >
> > Frank A. Willis
> > Dallas, Georgia
> > descendant of Lt. Daniel F. Kinney, 7th NCST & Pvt. Alexander R.
> Kinney of same reg't.
> >
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Removing of the flags reminds me of the NAACP protesting a recent (forgive me
for getting the title of the event wrong) Azalea Antebellum Parade. Why? The
NACCP protested the fact that the Antebellum dresses were a staunch reminder of
slavery. I thought, now if we are going to get rid of those "dresses", my God,
will we next burn the furniture made during that "Era"? Will we burn every book
written by a Southerner during that era?
If they were not so 'serious', there would probably be some humor in it
(referring to the dresses of course).
But, since some individuals, and even groups, are so narrow minded, it is more
that sad. I was schooled, for a while, in the British system, and learned about
those so-called Colonial Rebels, but I learned quickly to respect all views,
including: the British viewpoint of the American Revolution; the Mexican
viewpoint of the Battle of the Alamo and subsequent Mexican War, etc. There is
no other way to truly study and appreciate history until we hear and respect all
parties concerned.
It is too bad that the blood-stained flag of the Confederacy is so confused is
misrepresented with, and by, groups filled with ill-motives.
Matt P
http://thomaslegion.net/abraham_lincoln_president_history_biography.htmlhttp://thomaslegion.net
"Money shall perish but history shall not"
--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Michael C. Hardy <mchardy@...> wrote:
From: Michael C. Hardy <mchardy@...>
Subject: BLBS more articles from Alabama
To: "Branch-Lane Birgade" <branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:14 AM
Here are more articles concerning the councilman in Auburn. Make sure you read
the last one. Would it not be ironic if Councilman Dowdell were related to
Colonel Dowdell of the 37th Alabama infantry? The Colonel is buried just feet
from the grave of General Lane.
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy. com
http://www.oanow. com/oan/news/ local/article/ dowdells_ actions_garner_
disapproval/ 69850/
http://www.montgome ryadvertiser. com/article/ 20090425/ NEWS02/904250351
http://www.reddingn ewsreview. com/newspages/ 2009newspages/ councilman_
flag_exclusive_ 09_09100088. htm
http://www.oanow. com/oan/news/ local/article/ davis_says_ dowdell_was_
wrong_to_ remove_flags/ 69912/
> To: branch-lanebrigade@ yahoogroups. com
> From: volsfans4ever@ yahoo.com
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:45:02 -0700
> Subject: BLBS Gen'l Lane's grave descecrated
>
> Branch Lane Brigade & friends,
>
> "best interests of all involved to settle privately"?? ?? .... I will submit
to this "gentleman" (I am referring to the councilman who does not deserve to be
named) that he holds a public office, so I disagree with the mayor on this note.
All of us are friends of descendants, spouses of descendants or are ourselves
descendants of men who served with Gen'l Lane and I am sure that you are as
incensed at this sacrilege as I am.
>
> Is there a way to contact the city council? If the councilman in question
performed this act in an "official" capacity (and to some extent even if he did
not), then he should be removed. I do not believe that the mayor ought to
duck-and-cover under the guise of political correctness, as it appears he is
doing.
>
> Is there any legal action being taken in this case? Perhaps Mr. William C.
Trimble, Esq. of Maryland would be of great assistance in this matter (and no
doubt is himself already angered by this incident)?
>
> Frank A. Willis
> Dallas, Georgia
> descendant of Lt. Daniel F. Kinney, 7th NCST & Pvt. Alexander R. Kinney of
same reg't.
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Here are more articles concerning the councilman in Auburn. Make sure you read
the last one. Would it not be ironic if Councilman Dowdell were related to
Colonel Dowdell of the 37th Alabama infantry? The Colonel is buried just feet
from the grave of General Lane.
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com
http://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/article/dowdells_actions_garner_disapproval/\
69850/http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20090425/NEWS02/904250351http://www.reddingnewsreview.com/newspages/2009newspages/councilman_flag_exclusi\
ve_09_09100088.htmhttp://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/article/davis_says_dowdell_was_wrong_to_remo\
ve_flags/69912/
> To: branch-lanebrigade@yahoogroups.com
> From: volsfans4ever@...
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:45:02 -0700
> Subject: BLBS Gen'l Lane's grave descecrated
>
> Branch Lane Brigade & friends,
>
> "best interests of all involved to settle privately"???? .... I will submit to
this "gentleman" (I am referring to the councilman who does not deserve to be
named) that he holds a public office, so I disagree with the mayor on this note.
All of us are friends of descendants, spouses of descendants or are ourselves
descendants of men who served with Gen'l Lane and I am sure that you are as
incensed at this sacrilege as I am.
>
> Is there a way to contact the city council? If the councilman in question
performed this act in an "official" capacity (and to some extent even if he did
not), then he should be removed. I do not believe that the mayor ought to
duck-and-cover under the guise of political correctness, as it appears he is
doing.
>
> Is there any legal action being taken in this case? Perhaps Mr. William C.
Trimble, Esq. of Maryland would be of great assistance in this matter (and no
doubt is himself already angered by this incident)?
>
> Frank A. Willis
> Dallas, Georgia
> descendant of Lt. Daniel F. Kinney, 7th NCST & Pvt. Alexander R. Kinney of
same reg't.
>
>
>
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Branch Lane Brigade & friends,
"best interests of all involved to settle privately"???? .... I will submit to
this "gentleman" (I am referring to the councilman who does not deserve to be
named) that he holds a public office, so I disagree with the mayor on this
note. All of us are friends of descendants, spouses of descendants or are
ourselves descendants of men who served with Gen'l Lane and I am sure that you
are as incensed at this sacrilege as I am.
Is there a way to contact the city council? If the councilman in question
performed this act in an "official" capacity (and to some extent even if he did
not), then he should be removed. I do not believe that the mayor ought to
duck-and-cover under the guise of political correctness, as it appears he is
doing.
Is there any legal action being taken in this case? Perhaps Mr. William C.
Trimble, Esq. of Maryland would be of great assistance in this matter (and no
doubt is himself already angered by this incident)?
Frank A. Willis
Dallas, Georgia
descendant of Lt. Daniel F. Kinney, 7th NCST & Pvt. Alexander R. Kinney of same
reg't.
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Hello Michael
Thank you for posting the link to this sad story. I have forwarded
the link to as many friends as I can.
I doubt if any papers here in political correct California ran that
article. If they did thought, you can bet they did not run the
"Reader Reactions" from the good folks in Auburn! I fear this is only
the beginning.
Sincerely,
Sandy Lane
ACWA.org
>
> Sad news, folks. There is an article (the link is below) from some
> online newspaper about an Auburn City Official pulling up flags
> from the graves of Confederate soldiers in the Pine Hill Cemetery
> there in Auburn, Alabama. For those you of who don't know, this is
> the cemetery where Brig. Gen. James H. Lane is buried. On this link
> there is a place where you vote about the actions of this
> particular city council person. Let me encourage you to go to the
> link below, read the article, and vote.
>
> Here is the link:
> http://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/article/
> councilman_removes_confederate_flags_from_graves/69708/
>
> Regards,
> Michael
> www.michaelchardy.com
>
>
>
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The Teague Mystery -
My notes show that he fought at Gettysburg. Here is how he is listed in
my book
ALSO FOR GLORY: The Pettigrew - Trimble Charge at Gettysburg - page
562
Corp. John Teague 31 yr old enlisted Alexander Co. 7/23/61 C Harrison
Landing W Sharpsburg (later C Wilderness)
Don Ernsberger
author / historian
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Mayor Bill Ham, Jr. Releases Statement on Pine Hill Cemetery Incident
The recent incident regarding Confederate flags placed on graves at the Pine
Hill Cemetery is between private citizens of Auburn. The views and actions by
participants in that incident in no way reflect the views or policies of the
City of Auburn. The flags were placed by the United Daughters of the Confederacy
on private graves to commemorate fallen confederate soldiers for Confederate
Memorial Day, which is an official state holiday. Their removal was not an
action taken by the City of Auburn. I cannot condone the removal of private
property from a privately owned grave site. The sanctity of the final resting
place of one's family or forefathers is certainly one of the most intensely
private and sacred of things in our society.
The City recognizes that this is an issue between people of good conscience who
have passionately held differences of belief. It is in the greatest tradition of
American democracy that diverse citizens with differing views can peacefully and
responsibly express themselves.
I believe it would be in the best interest of all involved to settle their
differences privately.
Sad news, folks. There is an article (the link is below) from some online
newspaper about an Auburn City Official pulling up flags from the graves of
Confederate soldiers in the Pine Hill Cemetery there in Auburn, Alabama. For
those you of who don't know, this is the cemetery where Brig. Gen. James H. Lane
is buried. On this link there is a place where you vote about the actions of
this particular city council person. Let me encourage you to go to the link
below, read the article, and vote.
Here is the link:
http://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/article/councilman_removes_confederate_flags\
_from_graves/69708/
Regards,
Michael
www.michaelchardy.com