I believe it was made in New Zealand. Can any one identify this Boat? Cheers PAT...
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brucehallman
Feb 19, 2013 3:51 pm
I do not recognize that boat as being a Phil Bolger design, though it may be one which I am not familiar. My hunch is that it is not, and the schooner...
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phil.bolger
Feb 19, 2013 3:54 pm
It is not one of 'ours'. Susanne Altenburger, PB&F ... From: BruceHallman To: bolger@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:50 AM Subject: Re:...
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loosemoosefilmworks
loosemoosefi...
Feb 19, 2013 8:46 pm
It's Brian Owens scow schooner... and yes it was built and resides in New Zealand. Some good photos of the boat here... ...
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David
dir_cobb
Feb 22, 2013 12:37 pm
4 years ago I built Oldshoe which has been much enjoyed and well sailed. I am coming round to a major maintenance and wondering whether to order a suit of...
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David
dir_cobb
Feb 22, 2013 12:57 pm
PCB promoted the dipping lug in much of his writing. Does anyone have regular experience sailing using one? If PCB spoke so highly of it (and used it for...
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John Trussell
clumber03
Feb 22, 2013 1:12 pm
David, Anything is possible. PCB says that the rig he used on Old Shoe is,".the best all-around rig for daytime cruising in crowded waters." I suspect he chose...
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tom sorensen
tdsoren
Feb 22, 2013 2:45 pm
David, Tacking the rig is the big problem. need to slack off the halyard, drop the yard, move it and the tack to the other side of the mast, then raise it...
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sweetthug
sweetthug101
Feb 22, 2013 3:26 pm
Another way to tack may be to pull in the peak halyard, which would straighten the gaff (so it would look more like a gunter rig at this point) then let the...
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phil.bolger
Feb 22, 2013 3:43 pm
The Dipping Halyard was indeed done on at least two sizable hulls, 48' (31,000lbs) and 50' (around 40,000lbs). And it works. The overall utility of the rig...
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phil.bolger
Feb 22, 2013 4:51 pm
My mistake: Phil actually referred to it as the 'Peak-Halyard' keeping the yard peaked/vertical, as slacking the regular halyard without it would have made its...
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prairiedog2332
Feb 22, 2013 6:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO6WA3fmr_E Not quite sure how this works - called a Beer Lugger as it originated in that area of Devon UK. ...
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prairiedog2332
Feb 23, 2013 12:00 am
I notice the yard on the JBC is longer than the mast is tall. It would seem to me that the Oldshoe main would be much less awkward to reef if the wind picks...
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Joe T
scsbmsjoe
Feb 23, 2013 7:17 am
... Very unappreciated design. ... If you haven't seen them, Photos of my Oldshoe in Bolger 6: ...
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David
dir_cobb
Feb 23, 2013 9:05 pm
Joe I agree that Oldshoe is "unappreciated". As a day sailer and to send the kids out in their own (properly out of sight) it really takes some beating. I had...
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prairiedog2332
Feb 24, 2013 11:42 pm
I often thought a small removable "Birdwatcher" style structure a la SUPERMOUSE might be a fun thing to try? Probably the same main as the MOUSE in order...
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gravelyrider
Feb 25, 2013 11:54 pm
when spring gets to upstate ny i'll let you know how my Oldshoe with lug rig works. the mast is a lot easier to transport than the 19 footer originally...
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David
dir_cobb
Feb 26, 2013 3:19 pm
What size is the balanced lug? Its Coe is a lot further aft than the original. It will be interesting to see how she sails. Do you intend to keep the mizzen? ...
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gravelyrider
Feb 26, 2013 8:38 pm
The lug sail is a 74 sq ft, just about the same size as the original LOM. The COE is in the same place as the original so I hope there will not be any major...
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Dave Gentry
alias1719
Feb 26, 2013 9:32 pm
... Just wanted to say that the balanced lug rig looks good on the Old Shoe - and is likely just what that boat needs to make it more user friendly. Looking...
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c.ruzer
Feb 27, 2013 6:34 am
todippitydeeornot nowyaseeitnowyadon't mustyadoitorwhat What did that old salt Richard see? ...
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frank raisin
fraankfrnk
Feb 28, 2013 12:44 am
hi folks,just a thought - but i find i have gone off lugs and balanced lugs unless they are easily controlled. when it all starts getting a bit unsettling, i...
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John Trussell
clumber03
Feb 28, 2013 12:52 pm
There is no free lunch. Bermuda mains require a longer mast. With a conventional boom, they generally require a boom vang. A sprit boom is a marvelous...
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sweetthug
sweetthug101
Feb 28, 2013 3:37 pm
There has been some discussion about lugsails, so I thought would float a question out there that I have had for a while. I'm wondering how relevant the...
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phil.bolger
Feb 28, 2013 4:39 pm
Good issues to discuss. Your perspective seems based on a 'given' under-water hull geometry remaining more or less static throughout the range of conditions,...
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John Trussell
clumber03
Feb 28, 2013 5:56 pm
A basic rule of scientific inquiry is to limit the number of variables in the experiment. Alas, sail boats don't work like that. If a sail boat is upright, it...
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MylesJ. Swift
caigk
Feb 28, 2013 11:15 pm
Frank, I've never wanted a regular lug rig with that heavy flail looking for someone to hit. The late model balanced lugs are different. With both booms ...
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Mason Smith
adirondackgo...
Mar 1, 2013 1:08 am
I've always figures Center of Effort as center of area in sail-plan view was just a natural convenient useful fiction. A more "real" center of effort of a sail...
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sweetthug
sweetthug101
Mar 1, 2013 3:12 pm
I agree with you Mason, that rule of thumb for the centerboard location must just be a useful approximation. In a sense, the boat is pulled along somewhat by...
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phil.bolger
Mar 1, 2013 3:56 pm
I could have phrased this better... The point was/is that what goes on under water is very relevant to what we believe we get to observe (perhaps even to...
