bolger : Messages : 69227-69257 of 69562

Yes, I know the original plans are still on the market. Two factors motivated me to ask the question to the group. One…I live in an area where there are no traditional wooden boat builders who would build an Elco to the standards of past decades. And I am probably past the point where I could successfully do it myself. Two….If there is a Bolger design (or other of more recent origin) it will probably be more easily constructed, one off, and more in tune with presently available materials and methods. So my chances of having a more modern design built locally here in the Coastal Empire of Georgia would be better.

If I had about $100K to devote to the project I could have an Elco built in the NE and shipped to me. I saw a rather nice job of similar size, but different design, that cost that much a couple years ago on the coast at Cresent. The guy who ran the marina there told me it was built in Maine to order for a millionaire who would keep it in covered storage when he was not in the area to use it. It was one of five or six boats he had built and pre-positioned around the world for vacations…. All I could say is that it must be nice…!

Regards, SSK

P.S. Thank you to all who responded with some interesting suggestions for me to consider in answer to my question.

You know the original plans are available.
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/wf/elco/index.htm

John Boy

I have a blog! http://toon2sailor.blogspot.com/

“Seaward ho! Hang the treasure! It's the glory of the sea that has turned my head.”

Robert Louis Stevenson, Treasure Island

#69228

From: "Matthew Long" <owlnmole@...>
Date: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:57 am
Subject: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

cluttonfred

I'd like to make a plug for a the stock Tennessee with a folding or fixed canvas top over the cockpit. It would not look at all like an Elco, but it's a fantastic design for the kind of inland pleasure cruising you have in mind. It's inexpensive and easy to build, a modest four-stroke outboard (9.9-15 hp) will push it quietly at 10 knots, you have room for a little galley, head and berths to seat four or sleep two and more could camp in the cockpit just by adding side panels to the canopy. It's light enough to be pulled by an ordinary car, despite the long length. A little attention to detail in the shape of the ports, a mix of painted and varnished surfaces, etc. will give it a nice period look. Personally, it's one of my favorites.

<http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/tenn4.jpg>

#69229

From: "Wayne Gilham" <wgilham@...>
Date: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:10 am
Subject: RE: Elco 26 Imitation??

rayadorwg

Idaho.

great cabin , it's all-view. Forward and aft cockpit. Designed for Bernie Wolfard, who was wheelchair-bound, thus NO PROBLEM to move about.

"snipping" from prior posts of others here, about this boat:

here is what PCB writes:

Tennessee is lighter, cheaper in materials, quicker to build, and more efficient with low power (ten horsepower is ample and as much as she can efficiently use). Idaho is stronger, faster with more power, and has more useful space as designed. They are about equally capable in rough water. neither is properly called seaworthy, defined as "having the ability to keep the sea in all weather with reasonable safety." In either you should expect to exercize prudence as to weather in the Bay!

and from others:

TN is a displacement hull, designed for low power and low speeds. 10-15 HP

gives 10-12 mph max, cruise at 8 mph. Putting a bigger engine on TN won't

make it go much faster, it would just make bigger waves.

ID is a planing hull, designed to operate at higher speeds given adequate

horsepower. 25-35 HP gives 20+ mph. ID should cruise at a higher speed than

TN, maybe 12 mph.

For those who are incredulous about this boat's reported smoothness in a chop, see this YouTube video from one launched in Argentina -- go to minute 2:00 thru 2:54 for shots of her cruising so un-ruffled in a good chop... amazing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vox3gnHtAE4

Regards,

Wayne Gilham

who hasn't yet committed to building one of these, but sure is tempted....

From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Kandul
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:23 AM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Elco 26 Imitation??

Is anyone aware of any Bolger designs that mimic the rough size and style of the Elco 26 power boat? I am an aging fat guy with bad legs and I like the standing head room, fore hatch to stand in when handling anchor, big hatch to get on/off deck/cockpit, and wide open cockpit for folding deck chair and wine cooler with overhead cover. Regards, SSK

#69230

From: "daschultz8275@..." <daschultz8275@...>
Date: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

daschultz827...

IMO Jim Michalak would be a good choice to commission to design something
similar that would be an EZ plywood build.  It would likely be based on the AF-4
Casa, or AF-4G.

Don

#69231

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

phil.bolger

I doubt I'll ever get used to folks selling other folks' design-services and designs in this particular forum...

Yoh, Schultz, what do you think of the recent installments in MAIB ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: daschultz8275@...

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:43 PM

Subject: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

IMO Jim Michalak would be a good choice to commission to design something similar that would be an EZ plywood build. It would likely be based on the AF-4 Casa, or AF-4G.

Don

#69232

From: "Bill Kreamer" <kreamers@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:03 am
Subject: RE: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

bkreamer

Susanne you may take it as an indication of just how popular, inclusive, indispensable and vital this forum has become. We look up to you. Hope that helps some...

From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of philbolger@...
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:48 PM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

I doubt I'll ever get used to folks selling other folks' design-services and designs in this particular forum...

Yoh, Schultz, what do you think of the recent installments in MAIB ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: daschultz8275@...

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:43 PM

Subject: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

IMO Jim Michalak would be a good choice to commission to design something similar that would be an EZ plywood build. It would likely be based on the AF-4 Casa, or AF-4G.

Don

#69233

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

phil.bolger

That may be a more sensible response than mine...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Kreamer

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 7:03 PM

Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

Susanne you may take it as an indication of just how popular, inclusive, indispensable and vital this forum has become. We look up to you. Hope that helps some...

From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of philbolger@...
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:48 PM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

I doubt I'll ever get used to folks selling other folks' design-services and designs in this particular forum...

Yoh, Schultz, what do you think of the recent installments in MAIB ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: daschultz8275@...

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:43 PM

Subject: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

IMO Jim Michalak would be a good choice to commission to design something similar that would be an EZ plywood build. It would likely be based on the AF-4 Casa, or AF-4G.

Don

#69234

From: "c.ruzer" <c.ruzer@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:51 am
Subject: Re: Bolger Jinni

c.ruzer

Good catch. Yes, nice, and in good nick too for one 14 years old.

--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332"  wrote:
>
> Also came across this video of a Bolger Jinni sailing in Finland. Nicely
> done!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRkkWsoswAw
> Nels
>

Reply | Messages in this Topic (2)

#69236

From: "Matthew Long" <owlnmole@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:47 am
Subject: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

cluttonfred

Honestly, Susanne, I would take it as form of flattery.  Jim Michalak's designs
have long been part of this discussion group--a quick search shows over 2,400
messages mentioning "Michalak" going back to 1999.

Jim has taken on a few of Phil's many innovations--in this case the developed
plywood sheet small boat, the Birdwatcher cabin and a fondness for lug
sails--and continued to riff on those chords for quite a few years now,
developing a stable of designs to fill a wide range of amateur builder needs. 
Jim would be the first to admit that he builds on the Bolger/Payson instant boat
legacy and, I would add, with a touch of his own creativity.

I think that most of us consider Jim to be a Bolger "disciple," a tribute to
Phil's lasting influence on amateur building and small boat design.

Cheers from Nairobi,

Matthew

--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> I doubt I'll ever get used to folks selling other folks' design-services and
designs in this particular forum...
>
> Yoh, Schultz, what do you think of the recent installments in MAIB ?
>
> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

#69237

From: "Peter" <pvanderwaart@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

pvanderwaart

> Yoh, Schultz, what do you think of the recent installments in MAIB ?

I'm not Schultz, but while I was looking up a couple of the older designs to
suggest, I did wonder if an adaptation of the Robin Jean model would fit the
bill. It seems to be about the same size, and would be more stable platform than
the Elco.

I remember seeing a boat of the Elco type in Long Island Sound a few year ago.
It was a breezy day with significant chop, though I don't remember how much. I
was struck by how much the boat rolled and although she looked great, she also
looked uncomfortable.

Peter

#69238

From: captainrocky@...
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

captainrocky99

Would you recommend Ford on the Chevy site or try to tout Coke on the Pepsi site ? Nothing against an imitator but this IS a Bolger site. Sues response was a lot milder than mine would have been. Nice restraint Sue! Capt. Rocky

From: "Matthew Long" <owlnmole@gmail.com>
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:47:30 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

Honestly, Susanne, I would take it as form of flattery. Jim Michalak's designs have long been part of this discussion group--a quick search shows over 2,400 messages mentioning "Michalak" going back to 1999.

Jim has taken on a few of Phil's many innovations--in this case the developed plywood sheet small boat, the Birdwatcher cabin and a fondness for lug sails--and continued to riff on those chords for quite a few years now, developing a stable of designs to fill a wide range of amateur builder needs. Jim would be the first to admit that he builds on the Bolger/Payson instant boat legacy and, I would add, with a touch of his own creativity.

I think that most of us consider Jim to be a Bolger "disciple," a tribute to Phil's lasting influence on amateur building and small boat design.

Cheers from Nairobi,

Matthew

--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> I doubt I'll ever get used to folks selling other folks' design-services and designs in this particular forum...
>
> Yoh, Schultz, what do you think of the recent installments in MAIB ?
>
> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

#69239

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

phil.bolger

I appreciate the 'diplomatic angle', Matthew.

Continuing the MAIB design-column is in part intended to let it be known to those who did not notice my work during Phil's and my collaboration across 15 years that this office is gradually easing back into design-work again. Lot's to be done. Including many 'left-overs' from the more tragic times.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: Matthew Long

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:47 AM

Subject: [bolger] Re: Elco 26 Imitation??

Honestly, Susanne, I would take it as form of flattery. Jim Michalak's designs have long been part of this discussion group--a quick search shows over 2,400 messages mentioning "Michalak" going back to 1999.

Jim has taken on a few of Phil's many innovations--in this case the developed plywood sheet small boat, the Birdwatcher cabin and a fondness for lug sails--and continued to riff on those chords for quite a few years now, developing a stable of designs to fill a wide range of amateur builder needs. Jim would be the first to admit that he builds on the Bolger/Payson instant boat legacy and, I would add, with a touch of his own creativity.

I think that most of us consider Jim to be a Bolger "disciple," a tribute to Phil's lasting influence on amateur building and small boat design.

Cheers from Nairobi,

Matthew

--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> I doubt I'll ever get used to folks selling other folks' design-services and designs in this particular forum...
>
> Yoh, Schultz, what do you think of the recent installments in MAIB ?
>
> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

#69240

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:40 pm
Subject: Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

phil.bolger

I should reiterate what others have kindly suggested before, to keep track of the work out of this outfit, the best thing to do is to read Messing About In Boats (MAIB). For the time being, this is the best window.

Web-Presence is worked towards. The point on that issue is to make sure that PB&F will get the Award for the Last Venture to have a formal Online-Presence via a Website...

In light of their patient efforts to make up for our challenges to get this done, I particularly appreciate the efforts by those who have collected online all sorts of sources on our work. While not a complete record, that long listing and the visuals available by now should help those who are not sure what has been done here, give or take...

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

#69241

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

brucehallman

http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics

PCB + PB&F have been remarkably prolific, spanning seven decades now. �Not surprising that compiling together an online record of this opus would be a daunting monumental task. �

I have tried to give it a kick start here:

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:40 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

�

I should reiterate what others have kindly suggested before, to keep track of the work out of this outfit, the best thing to do is to read Messing About In Boats (MAIB).� For the time being, this is the best�window.�

Web-Presence is worked towards. The point on that issue is to make sure that PB&F will get the Award for the Last Venture to have a formal Online-Presence via a Website...

In light of their patient efforts to make up for our challenges to get this done, I�particularly appreciate the efforts by those who have collected online all sorts of sources on our work.� While not a complete record, that long listing and the visuals available by now should help those who are not sure what has been done here, give or take...

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F��

#69242

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

brucehallman

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. �(A new design to me!) �I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

#69243

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

phil.bolger

Thanks for the robust support, Bruce.

A correction is in order though 'for the record': Phil hung out his shingle in 1952. So this office would now be in its 61st year.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:23 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

PCB + PB&F have been remarkably prolific, spanning seven decades now. Not surprising that compiling together an online record of this opus would be a daunting monumental task.

I have tried to give it a kick start here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:40 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

I should reiterate what others have kindly suggested before, to keep track of the work out of this outfit, the best thing to do is to read Messing About In Boats (MAIB). For the time being, this is the best window.

Web-Presence is worked towards. The point on that issue is to make sure that PB&F will get the Award for the Last Venture to have a formal Online-Presence via a Website...

In light of their patient efforts to make up for our challenges to get this done, I particularly appreciate the efforts by those who have collected online all sorts of sources on our work. While not a complete record, that long listing and the visuals available by now should help those who are not sure what has been done here, give or take...

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

#69244

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

phil.bolger

Thank you Bruce.

These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...

Thanks for this effort to find images for her.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

#69245

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

brucehallman

I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! �Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

�

Thank you Bruce.

�� These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to�see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be.� From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...

Thanks for this effort to find images for her.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

��

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

�

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. �(A new design to me!) �I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

#69246

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

brucehallman

My bias and a statistical trick rounding up on something really impressive. �I'm counting decades. �Spanning 7 decades (five last century, 50's 60's 70's 80's 90's) and we are now in the second decade of this century 00's & 10's. �

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

�

Thanks for the robust support, Bruce.

A correction is in order though 'for the record':� Phil hung out his shingle in 1952.� So this office would now be in its 61st year.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
�

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:23 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

�

PCB + PB&F have been remarkably prolific, spanning seven decades now. �Not surprising that compiling together an online record of this opus would be a daunting monumental task. �

I have tried to give it a kick start here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:40 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

�

I should reiterate what others have kindly suggested before, to keep track of the work out of this outfit, the best thing to do is to read Messing About In Boats (MAIB).� For the time being, this is the best�window.�

Web-Presence is worked towards. The point on that issue is to make sure that PB&F will get the Award for the Last Venture to have a formal Online-Presence via a Website...

In light of their patient efforts to make up for our challenges to get this done, I�particularly appreciate the efforts by those who have collected online all sorts of sources on our work.� While not a complete record, that long listing and the visuals available by now should help those who are not sure what has been done here, give or take...

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F��

#69247

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

phil.bolger

Bruce, cue the theme from MI...
Gotta a burn a disc for endless loop until you throw it out the window at mile marker 13 or so...

I guess making the weather match your schedule would be one challenge. I'd check with the marina office to make sure she'll be there...

Keep us posted.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Thank you Bruce.

These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...

Thanks for this effort to find images for her.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

#69248

From: "MylesJ. Swift" <mswift@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

caigk

Susanne,

I always thought that “last Venture on the Net” award would go to MAIB, Bob having written about it many times. Congratulations to PB&F, you outlasted him

MylesJ

#69249

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

phil.bolger

...not per se though by particular choice or 'Luddite' reflexes...
Onwards.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: MylesJ. Swift

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:44 PM

Subject: [bolger] Re: Keeping Track of PB&F's Work and Progress

Susanne,

I always thought that �last Venture on the Net� award would go to MAIB, Bob having written about it many times. Congratulations to PB&F, you outlasted him

MylesJ

#69250

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:52 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F/#410 ever in MAIB ?

phil.bolger

Bruce Hallman's remark that this design was a new one for him sort of stopped me cold.
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: philbolger@...

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:35 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

Bruce, cue the theme from MI...
Gotta a burn a disc for endless loop until you throw it out the window at mile marker 13 or so...

I guess making the weather match your schedule would be one challenge. I'd check with the marina office to make sure she'll be there...

Keep us posted.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Thank you Bruce.

    These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...

Thanks for this effort to find images for her.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F



----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

#69251

From: "Stephen Kandul" <machinist@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:22 am
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

Gronicle

>>>> Bruce Hallman's remark that this design was a new one for him sort of stopped me cold.
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?
<<<<

I took a look at the pictures Bruce posted links to of the vessel. Near as I can tell it was not featured in MAIB in past ten or so years. Seems like you have found a follow-on topic to write up once that Navy landing craft/patrol boat splashes…

Now, about those study plans for a boat with Elco “happy smack” characteristics, and Bolger innovation and functionality…?? Awaiting your reply.

Regards, SSK

#69252

From: <philbolger@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:38 am
Subject: Re: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

phil.bolger

No 'Champlain' (#636) material in the Yahoo vault ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: Stephen Kandul

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:22 PM

Subject: [bolger] Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

>>>> Bruce Hallman's remark that this design was a new one for him sort of stopped me cold.
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?
<<<<

I took a look at the pictures Bruce posted links to of the vessel. Near as I can tell it was not featured in MAIB in past ten or so years. Seems like you have found a follow-on topic to write up once that Navy landing craft/patrol boat splashes�

Now, about those study plans for a boat with Elco �happy smack� characteristics, and Bolger innovation and functionality�?? Awaiting your reply.

Regards, SSK

#69253

From: welshman@...
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:49 am
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

harryjak

Bruce

I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why

http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html

Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me. It has
a
rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.

500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to it---if
at all.

HJ



  I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this!  Judging from
> the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the
> channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good
> photo angles.
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> **
>> Thank you Bruce.
>>     These images do help some.
>> But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by
>> someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be.  From San Francisco for
>> instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods
>> Highway (Route 101)...
>>
>> Thanks for this effort to find images for her.
>>
>> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* BruceHallman <hallman@...>
>> *To:* bolger@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
>>
>>
>>
>> There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web.  (A new design to me!)
>>  I grabbed them and put them here:
>>
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg
>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Woodley Island
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

#69254

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

brucehallman

Hi Harry,

You always are welcome to borrow any of my boats. �They all are more than a bit neglected, but the Cartoon 5, Tortoise, and Kotick are stored on the roof of my garage in SF, and the Micro (sorely neglected in the marina by the ballpark) and the Topaz Spyder is in a boatyard in Dogpatch. �My spare time comes in very small chunks now-a-days with first priority being my health and marriage. �Followed by my day job, and this endless remodel of a money-pit 125 year old house.

Bruce

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM, <welshman@...> wrote:

�

Bruce

I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why

http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html

Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me. It has a
rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.

500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to it---if at all.

HJ

#69255

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

brucehallman

http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg

Here are a couple more Flickr photos found of Phouma, one is a nice side view taken from another boat

Another factoid, the boat berthed just next to Phouma is the 'Coral Sea' which is owned and operated by the Humbolt State University Oceanography department.

#69256

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

brucehallman

http://hallman.org/bolger/410i.jpg

Oops, typo, here is the link to the side view photo of Phouma

#69257

From: Samantha Roberts <samanthaeroberts@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

samanthaerob...

http://hallman.org/bolger/410i.jpg

From: BruceHallman <hallman@...>
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

Oops, typo, here is the link to the side view photo of Phouma

http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg